Kentucky Basketball: Objective #1 Accomplished, and What it Means
It says here the last time the Kentucky Wildcats were the regular-season SEC champions was 2004-05. It also says that the five-year interregnum between SEC regular-season championships was the second longest on record -- the longest being the nine-year span between 1986 and 1995, which encompassed the UK probation years.
The SEC regular-season championship is, as far as I know, always Objective #1 when it comes to Kentucky basketball. Being the best team in this league is a highly variable accolade -- sometimes, it means you are one of the two or three best teams in the nation, and sometimes, like last year, it just means you are the best of a bad lot.
In 2009-10, having the best record in the SEC after the smoke clears is probably nearer to the top end of that scale than the bottom. Still, I think it's fair to say that being the best team in the fifth best league in the country this year, in and of itself, would not strike fear into the hearts of the nation's elite. However, there is the fact that Kentucky is tied for the second best record among the BCS conferences, and that adds considerable weight. Of course, win-loss records only mean something in the context of schedule strength. The RPI has Kentucky still at #4 despite the Syracuse Orange road loss to the Louisville Cardinals on Saturday. Based on all that, I think UK has made a case for a #1 seed that will even sustain a conference tournament loss.
Which brings me to the question -- what is Objective #2? Normally, I would argue it is the SEC Tournament, unless (and this year is one of those "unless" times) you have already wrapped up a number 1 NCAA Tournament seed. Since UK has ostensibly achieved a very strong and possibly unassailable argument for a #1 NCAA Tournament seed, the SEC Tournament championship becomes a bit less important. But there is a factor at work that actually makes it more important than it normally is -- a six-year SEC Tournament championship drought. That's tied for the longest absence from the SEC Tournament Championship since it was reinstated in 1979 (there was no tournament between 1952 and 1979).
More after the jump.
Since this is the "year of renewal" for Kentucky as a national and conference powerhouse, I think it is highly desirable to put all these long streaks to bed. These streaks, among many others, are now history:
- A 4-year string of 10+ loss seasons
- A 5-year string of no SEC championships
- A 4-year absence from a top 3 NCAA tournament seed
- A 6-year absence from a 30+ win season (assuming, of course, UK doesn't become the first team in history to lose to a 16 seed, or the in the unlikely event of a 2 seed, the fifth team in history to drop a 2-15 game).
- A 5-year absence from the AP top 10.
There are many other superlatives that I could mention -- the first team since 2005 to have a first-round pick in the NBA draft, the first time since 2004 we have swept Florida or beaten North Carolina, etc. Suffice it to say that the long streak of sub-par Kentucky teams have definitely and emphatically come to an end. If we could end our long absence as SEC Tournament Champions, it would be icing on the cake.
From NIT loser to NCAA likely #1 seed. No way could any member of the Big Blue Nation have written a story more compelling, save for one thing -- an NCAA championship. Which begs the question -- is this young, freshman-dominated team capable of pulling off the ultimate feat?
Let's look at the pros and cons: First, the pros:
- UK is a sold top 5 national squad with at least 3 first-round 2010 NBA draft pics on the current roster.
- Kentucky's only losses have come on the road in sold-out arenas insane with hostility. They have a perfect 4-0 record on neutral courts.
- The Wildcats have shown time and again that they have maturity beyond their years in crunch time.
- Kentucky has excellent back-court play, a big factor in winning the NCAA championship.
- None of the starters on this Kentucky team have ever played even one minute of an NCAA tournament, so they know not the fear of losing in an upset in a one-and-done scenario.
- This Kentucky team plays with a joy and a confidence we have not seen in the Bluegrass since 1996.
Cons:
- No matter how mature they seem, this team is dominated by freshmen who have never been tested in the NCAA Tournament crucible.
- Kentucky's 3-point shooting has been up and down, and could render them vulnerable.
- Film study becomes very hard in the NCAA tournament, and team preparation much more challenging.
- Underdogs will almost always play fearlessly and well above their heads. UK will be favored in every game until (if) they reach the Final Four.
- The Wildcats have shown a repeated propensity for losing interest in games where they get up big, Florida on Sunday being only the latest example. Do that in the tournament, and it could be doomsday.
- A deep-running underdog will have a ton of neutral crowd support that could turn the game into the equivalent of a road game.
- Very few teams with this many freshmen have ever made a deep run in the NCAA tournament, and I can think of almost no team who made a deep run where none of their starters had played one minute of an NCAA Tournament game. The only players on Kentucky's roster who have ever played in an NCAA tournament game are Perry Stevenson and Ramon Harris.
So there you have it. I'm sure that many of you can add to the list of pros and cons -- please feel free to do so.
In the final analysis, thought, we have no idea how many of these things will impact this young but remarkably talented team. We have seen a lot of things that give us hope, and a number of things that give us pause, but in the end, this has already been a special season for the Big Blue Faithful, a season that has taken us effortlessly from despair to joy, from embarassment to pride.
The good news -- it could still get a lot better!
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#1 Seed Is The Ticket
Cats are 29-8 as #1 seed.
This will be their 10th NCAA as #1 seed.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 8, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions
Wait
That means that y’all have only won one NCAA tournament in 9 attempts as a #1 seed. And the average time of exit is the Elite Eight. That’s actually a little lower than I would’ve expected.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
That's about right.
They have only been seeding the tourney since ’79. The only time we won as a #1 seed was in 1996. In 1998, we were a #2 seed.
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Ah
See I didn’t realize they started seeding it so recently. I’m not entirely up on my NCAA tournament history. The first tournament I remember was the one where UK beat UMass (that was the year before the ‘Zona victory, right?). Before that, my knowledge is pretty much that Mister Jennings is awesome and UT hasn’t done too well.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
That was 1996. We actually beat Syracuse for the championship ...
… but the UMass game in the Final Four was largely considered the championship game, although Syracuse gave a very good account of themselves.
Yes, that was the year before Arizona beat UK in overtime.
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See, I didn't remember the details
In my defense, I was 8 years old and preferred football.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Well...
… there you go. I was in college when the 1978 team won. :-)
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I was in college when the 96 and 98 teams won
and the 1997 team should have, but those are the breaks.
I was in 3rd grade when the '78 team won.
I lived in Tennessee at the time (mom remairried and we moved just before I started Kindergarten). I wrote “UK#1” on the chalk board every day for 2 weeks before my teacher told me enough.
Had they seeded then, UK would have been a #1.
I was in middle school in '98
When UT won championships in football and women’s basketball. I wore orange every day for over a year straight. I know that probably disgusts you, but I feel like it relates well to your kindergarten story.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
98 was my senior year in high school
damn I’m getting old…..
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
pal
82 was my senior year in high school. If you’re old, I’m dead.
LOL
No matter where you're at, there you are
I keep getting gray hairs too
82, I was 2…….
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
In '82, I wouldn't be alive for five more years
This probably isn’t helping, is it?
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
me too cincy.....lol....but I aint dead yet.....lol....
I am living long enough to be a burden to society…..lol
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Butler High School
Class of ’64. Now off with you kiddies, its past your bedtime.
OOOOHHH Thank you
That light at the end of the tunnel ISN’T a train. (BTW – Don’t go near the light.)
Don't feel bad...
I was a junior in HS when they won in 1978. That just gives us more perspective and makes us “seasoned veterans,” right?
I Was 1st Grader When UK Won In 1958
I don’t remember the Fiddlers. UC and Oscar were #1 then.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 8, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
I daresay most teams with a large number of #1 seed have gaudy records like that.
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Perhaps
I’d actually want #1 or #2 seed. UK is 45-13.
When seeded #3 or worse, UK is 13-11.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 8, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I will no longer allow myself (although I have not allowed it much anyway)
to think that the Cats can lose anymore games. I actually think that this tournament format is going to be a lot harder for the other teams to prepare for UK than it will be for Kentucky to prepare for them. SC and UT had weeks to scan film, plot out a game plan, and the advantage of being at home to beat us, and we almost won both of those.
This will be a tournament team. We scare the living daylights out of at least the first rounder, and maybe the 2nd, catch a break in the third game and grind it out through the last three.
After we take the SEC Tourney crown and wipe out another of your “streaks” Tru, we will find ourselves in unfamiliar territory in the 21st century……..the favorites to win it all…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
We will not be the favorites.
That is for certain, unless Kansas drops a couple of games.
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Kansas and Syracuse are going to lose this week......we are not......
Kansas is going to take another one on the chin from Kansas State…… and get this…..
Syracuse will lose to Louisville one more time…..in the champ game of the Big East Tourney…..I know this is a fool’s prediction, but I can see it all in my mind……lol
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I second that "dream on."
I think KU and SU will cruise in their respective tournaments. The only team that could give SU trouble would be (I hate to admit it) Pitt.
by mrmondaynite on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Good chance
Both teams, especially Syracuse, have tougher conference tournaments than us. (At least this year.)
I predicted....
Cuse NOT winning BE tourny. I also predicted NO BE teams in Final Four. I’m sticking to it.
by kentuckyrules on Mar 8, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Also, didnt mean to overstep my bounds on that Thread for the Women's game yesterday
but it was down to 10 min to go and I didnt know who was around and who wasnt….apologies if I usurped any authority there….
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
You did great on that.
I wish I had been around to promote it to the front page. Unfortunately, I was unable to do so.
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5 minutes from a championship.....they needed 5 more minutes of herculean effort.....but UT was just too strong....
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I wish I could have seen it. :-(
I’ll try to watch it on SEC Digital. I imagine it will be up there. I hope so, anyway.
Or perhaps ESPN 360 has it.
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UT's women's team is big like we are big on the men's side......
REALLY big……we looked like gnats in there against them…..but man can those girls play Defense…..
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Syracuse bigs are pushovers
I have watched them a few times and I have been unimpressed with them. They have girth, but against ppatt and cousins they would get in foul trouble so fast. I can’t see cuse doing anything beyond elite 8 in the tounrey, just like every overrated big east school
Yeah, I think ...
… there is a lot of truth to that. None of them are nimble enough to guard Cousins, and with Patterson and Cousins in there, it really would put pressure on that zone they run.
Against most teams, even Kansas, I’d say Syracuse would do fine. But UK presents special problems for them defensively on the interior.
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Cuse worried me earlier in the year
But I agree about UK’s bigs vs. theirs. Cuse playing zone exclusively worried me earlier in the year, but UK has seen it so often this season, they have learned to perform against it. The thing about the zone is rebounding assisgnments. UK has demonstrated they are the best rebounding team in the nation and poses a huge problem for Syracuse in that area. I feel much better about UK’s chances vs. the Orange than I did a month ago.
That's what she said.
A deep run in the SEC Tournament would help us a lot
As talented as this team is, they still need as much real-game experience as they can get. Getting more experience with quick turnarounds between games won’t hurt either. I’d love to see them come up with a solid game from start to finish in a pressure situation.
I agree
Win all three games by convincing margins would be excellent jumpstart to NCAAT. They’d probably get a THU – SAT venue if they got to SECT Champ game. :)
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.
Anybody else
notice that UK could face South Carolina, UT and Vandy to win the SECT?
the thing i dont like is that kentucky is ranked 9th by ken pomeroy
As far back as his archives go, the eventual national champion team has been ranked 1st or 2nd in the country by him, even in cases where they were not favored to win it all, like 2006 florida.
was that their ranking before or after the tourney??.....as we win more we will be ranked higher.......
I know everyone loves kenpom’s system, I just dont think it gets really accurate until after everything shakes itself out
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Lagging indicator
His archives look to be showing all games, including National Championship games. It would be interesting to see what his rankings were just prior to the tournament.
What a difference a year makes....
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
I know, right?
And, to throw just one example (among many) of that out there — it’s so refreshing (for me at least) to not have to worry about all that NCAA Tourney bubble talk that consumed us last year at this time. Remember that, ya’ll?
Yeah, that was a horrible, and to be honest I haven’t even paid all that much attention to all the bubble talk this year due to the fact that that sort of talk doesn’t include us and it’s so great! Hooray. What a difference a year can make, indeed, and this year the difference is so incredibly refreshing and fabulous! : )
ESPN/USA Today Coaches Poll
1-Kansas
2-Kentucky
3-Syracuse
4-Duke
5-Purdue
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Latest SI.com tourny projections
I hope this comes true:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_glockner/03/08/bracket.watch/index.html?eref=sihp
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
I like that bracket-
But, last week the same guy, had us a #1 seed in the South…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
where did he have Cuse?
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I meant last week
when you said he had us at # in the south
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Oh-
He had them #1 in the West Region last week…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
so who was east then?
that would be very weird to have us in the south and them in the west, assuming Kansas was midwest and I would assume Duke was east, but that would imply that Duke was better than Cuse, just very odd
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Last week-
He had Purdue #1 in the East. When he has Syracuse in the west, he also had Duke,Pitt,Texas,BYU, and Baylor in the West. A tough bracket. In the East with Purdue was Villanova,N. Mexico,Temple,Butler, Gonzaga…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
ok that makes a bit more sense
I guess that was before Purdue lost a player, at that time I could see having UK and Purdue ranked over Cuse which would cause it to shake out that way.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Yes-
And he had Kansas #1 in the midwest along with W. Virginia,Ohio State,Vandy,Mich. St., and Texas A&M. UK was in withK. State,G’Town,Wis.,Richmond, and N. Iowa. So, last weeks brackets were very favorable to UK.
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Actually, it doesn't imply that b/ Cuse can't be in the East.
East Regional Final is played in Carrier Dome. Cuse is forced to be in one of the other 3. Debate whether South or West is better. KU probably gets Midwest.
Kansas St. as the 2 seed
is exactly what I wanted. IMO, that is the weakest 2 seed in the field. Nova has dropped off lately and doesn’t pose the threat they did a few weeks ago. Also, I would predict Cornell beating Clemson in that bracket.
That's what she said.
I was surprised-
He has W. Virginia ahead of Duke. I would like to see Syracuse play Ohio State too…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Tru, you're right..
..the #1 Objective is SEC regular season champs. Further, #2 is the SEC Tourney then the NCAA Tourney. This is perhaps the main difference of opinion I have with Coach Cal. He belittles Objective #1 and #2 which, to me, is a slap in the face of the SEC and the UK fans.
First, there’s a natural progression that #1 preps you for #2 then #2 preps you for #3 and this young team needs all the incremental steps it can get or they’re going to be standing around at the end of the game saying “What happened? Is the seaon over?” Also, the SEC championships (season and tourney) I hold very dear. No other team in the country has demonstrated its conference dominace through the decades like Kentucky. It helps put the swagger in UK basketball and shouldn’t be overlooked by Coach Cal. It seems as though he’d like to skip the conference season and tourney and go straight to the NCAA tourney. What a disappointment it would be to not have all those road games where the oppponents crowd is absolutely nuts, proving we are the king of basketball. We’re everyone’s target and get the best from all comers.
Now if we can just get this team to realize the “sudden death” nature of the remaining games they can turn in games as awe-inspiring as the efforts against Drexel and Arkansas.
I agree.
I think that the SEC tournamyent is not as important this year as it normally would be, but that’s the exception, not the rule.
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I do not take it
as a slap in the face but a big dose of reality. While UK fans like dominating the conference and winning the tourney, it is more because we just don’t like to lose. I pose this question " Would you rather have an SEC championship (either one or both) or a deep run in the NCAA?"
Hmmm.......?
I’m still trying to figure out if I’d rather beat Duke like a rented mule or Tennesse like a borrowed drum. Can I have another, sir?
Again like so many subjects......I think your
perspective plays into your personal view of “objectives”. If you’re saying winning the SEC is the first rung on the ladder and therefore the “first” objective…..then I agree.
If you’re saying it “means” more than an NCAA title…..well count the # of people who show up at the airport after an SEC title and then count how many show up after winning an NCAA title.
There are 40+ SEC banners hanging in Rupp. Is there a fan out there who wouldn’t vote to trade an SEC title for an NCAA title for that same year?
I think Coach Cal doesn’t intend to slap anyone in the face….he’s just making the obvious point that he isn’t getting paid millions to win SEC championships.
You can't fix "stupid"!
I think he meant first objective in a game plan
If you layed out a game plan for the year with the ultimate goal being NCAA Championship then first would be to win the SEC Reg Season, then SEC Tourney.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Sort of like a battle plan.
However, it has been said that the battle plan is the first casualty of war.
Should the SEC be reseeded for the tournament?
UT and VU fans are saying that on 104.5 out of Nashville since they finished ahead of the teams out of the west..
You can't do that ...
… and have the divisions mean anything.
Still, I do understand their frustration. Perhaps that is a conversation worth having.
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104.5
Interviewed Pearl this morning, and he mentioned re-seeding also…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Pearl also said-
It would be interesting to see if UK could beat Vandy for the third time this year…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Yes-
And the newly named Bridgestone Arena (my employer) is not Memorial Gym…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
We beat LSU 3 times in '86 (2 regular season, once SEC tourney).
It was the 4th time in the Regional Finals that did us in.
Little remembered fact: we also had to beat Alabama in the Sweet 16 just to play LSU. And we beat them for the 4th time that year.
The next year they put in the rule about splitting conference teams
Depending on seeding, they should not meet until the regional finals or Sweet 16 or something like that. But again, I think even that plan could be thrown off by an upset in seeding. I can’t remember the exact rule, but they put it in place b/c of what happened to us in ’86.
Anyone know this rule?
Two teams from the same conference were not allowed
to meet PRIOR to the Elite 8. But, this year that very rule has been altered. I believe beginning this year, teams from the same conference are allowed to meet in the Rd of 16, but not before.
The year UK lost to LSU after beating them three times during the season, they played Alabama earlier in the tourney, a team they had already played and beaten twice.
We beat Alabama 4 times.
Twice in season, once in SEC championship game, then the game before LSU in the Sweet 16.
http://bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/1985-86.html
Boo hoo?
On paper it looks like UK got the short end of the seeding stick. Am I wrong on this?
(by the way, I’m not complaining, bring it on… if they’re afraid of their competition go home and get ready for spring break)
No matter where you're at, there you are
UK, UT, and Florida got the short end
They finished #1, #3, and #4 in the conference. All of these should come with byes. However, UK was the only one that got a bye.
Now suppose these teams make it to the semis. UK, as the #1, should play the 4/5 winner. Instead, they have a chance of playing the #3. UT, as the #3, should play the #2. Instead, should both teams take care of business, they play the #1.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I do think UT got the worst of it though
We have to play LSU in the first round. With them at 222, it kills our RPI, win or lose. We basically need to beat Ole Miss the next day to break even.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I can see your point on having to play another game
don’t worry about the RPI’s at this point. UT is in and will have a good seed, I think. As far as the SECT, though an extra game is rough even if it is against the last place team this year. They better load up on the pancakes.
But Vandy… boo hoo!
No matter where you're at, there you are
We're in, but our seed is still in question
We basically need to make the finals for a shot at a 3 seed, which would be a big advantage over a 4, given that the top three teams have really separated themselves this year. I like our chances of beating Ole Miss/Kentucky consecutively a whole lot better than beating LSU/Ole Miss/Kentucky consecutively, just because of rest/prep.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I agree Cincy...
I hear the crying and calling us cheaters all the time..They are saying the ACC reseed’s ..I don’t know if they do or don’t…
ACC reseeds, Big 12 reseeds
Pretty much everybody reseeds except the SEC, MAC, and SoCon.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
ACC doesn't have divisions
how are they “reseeding”? SEC has an East and a West and the 1 in the east plays the worst in the west, and vice versa. If we “reseed” then that negates any reason for having divisions in the first place
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I don't know how the ACC does it
But the Big 12 has divisions for scheduling purposes but not for seeding purposes. Basically, Big 12 North teams play other North teams twice a year and play South teams once a year. But the divisions aren’t split up in the standings, evading this problem.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 8, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
So maybe the SEC needs to look at something like that
Divisions make a lot more sense during football season anyway.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Agreed +1
has this ever been a problem in basketball as much as it is this year?
No matter where you're at, there you are
They went to divisions..
because of football..
This has been a great year
I’ve “enjoyed the ride” and I’m not going to sully that by predicting anything. I think this team has the talent to go wherever they want to go. There is the question, where do they want to go? Can they knock someone down and keep them down. Can they ever learn that the only possession that matters is THIS ONE. The only defensive stop that matter is THIS ONE.
THIS ONE is each and every possession in the post season. That is a hard ting to teach youngsters.
…and oooooh, what a ride it has been and will be.
Go Big Blue!
It might be because
at their age they are immortal. They don’t think in terms of time running out. There will always be tomorrow to them. It is only when that clock starts ticking louder that we realize how precious the moment is ~*^ls9[ge . Sorry folks I just walked in and found Rick Pitino posting this on my computer and had to wrestle the keyboard away from him.
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