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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- It's 1966 All Over Again

Once again, it's the noble underdog against the Evil Empire.  This figures to be a replay of 1966, except the social issue du jour is not race (although that's sure to be an undercurrent for a few psychos, in reverse), but academic standing -- the four-year non-scholarship student versus the future NBA "thugs" and their "cheetah" coach.

It's sad, but then, what can you expect from college basketball fans, the vast majority of whom have nothing left to cheer for?  For us Kentucky fans, I think it's best that we just embrace the hate.  We have done it all year, and it doesn't look to subside anytime soon.

Now, for the news:

More after the jump

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  • Memphis loses its appeal to NCAA | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal

    The (Memphis) Commercial Appeal reported on its Web site Monday that Memphis may seek for Calipari to return $360,000 in bonuses he earned for that season.

    Hmmm.  That's a tough one.  The question here becomes, "Who is to blame?"  If the athletic department was to blame due to a failure to monitor, and Calipari is part of the athletic department, it is not illogical that he should have to share in any financial penalty even if he were not personally culpable.

    Well, I open the floor for debate on this one.  I have not made up my mind whether or not Coach Cal should return any earnings.  I think there is a solid argument for both positions.

  • Kentucky's John Wall named Freshman of Year by writers | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal

    The United States Basketball Writers Association named Wall, a 6-foot-4 point guard, its national Freshman of the Year, making him the first UK player to win that award.

    Good for John.  He has earned all these accolades with his stellar play and his great work in the classroom.

  • Daily Herald | That smarts: Cornell can be game changer

    Let's say for conversation's sake that the young scholar is on to something and Cornell does beat Kentucky. The outcome could be college basketball's turning point.

    This is more of the same elitist tripe we have had to listen to for years.  I think everyone should be impressed with Cornell's team, and their academic effort is truly in the spirit of pure intercollegiate athletics.

    But like it or not, the 1971 "hardship" Supreme Court ruling changed the game forever.  Arne Duncan can slice that any way he wants, but it seems extraordinarily at odds for an administration with a stated objective of making higher education more available to at-risk young people.  There is no easy fix -- the Supremes have said that you can't deny young people the right to go to professional sports anytime they want -- that is over and done with. 

    The current situation with the collective bargaining agreement probably could not stand up to a Supreme Court review if it were ever challenged, and the only reason it hasn't been is that one year is just not that big of a deal.  Two or three years, however, would likely draw a court case that would bring us right back to where we were before the rule, with high-schoolers able to go straight to the association, and that's probably where we should be right now.

    So what's to be done?  Nothing, probably, except letting guys like Wall go straight to the Association.  But oh, look at what we would have missed, and Wall has proven that he is capable of doing the work in college.

    Isn't that enough to go to college for however long?  Shouldn't we be concentrating on drop-outs and not worrying about athletes who are really in college studying how to be professional sports stars?  Yes, we should punish abusers, but if players leave college in good academic standing, it's hard to see why that should be punished.

  • Geoff Calkins: University of Memphis' appeal of NCAA sanctions was doomed from start " The Commercial Appeal

    Because how could the university justify keeping Johnson in his position otherwise? How could Raines rationalize the way she handed the reputation of the university over to Calipari to trash?

    Yawn.  Jilted lover.

  • nky.Com | Kentucky Enquirer | The Big Bluegrass Blog " Say hello to the Sweet 16 ladies!

    - In case you hadn’t heard, Memphis’ appeal to the NCAA to keep their wins from the Derrick Rose season has been denied. Also, Memphis says they may ask Calipari to return almost $400,000 in bonuses he made from that season. People love to use this as ammunition against Cal and against college basketball, but what is lost in all of this is how the NCAA royally screwed this up by approving of Rose in the first place. The NCAA says Rose could play. then information surfaced that seemed to say Rose was questionable. So the NCAA went back after the fact and said Rose was not eligible. Here’s the question: Should the NCAA now go back and investigate the Sugar Daddy Bill Walton said always hung around the UCLA program under John Wooden? I think so. If we’re going to start investigating the past, why don’t we look at every program that was ever accused of point-shaving back in the day?

    Oh no!  A logically sound argument!  Talk about your lone voice in the wilderness ...

  • Kentucky vs. Cornell: The One Game You Can't Miss - WSJ.com

    In any event, no matter who wins, there will be some theories tested: whether talent wins out, whether experience and teamwork can only take a team so far, and whether a friendly crowd and a familiar building can overcome superior skill. Depending on whether Kentucky wins big, wins close or somehow gets beat, it will either confirm or overturn our beliefs.

    This is a surprisingly nice piece that focuses on basketball questions rather than social issues.  Refreshing.

  • A Starter for Mighty Kentucky Now Sits on Cornell’s Bench - NYTimes.com

    Coury says he has no regrets. "The only thing I wish I could change is that I wish we could have a $3 million practice facility right next to our house," he said with a laugh.

    I like and respect Mark Coury, and he is now right where he belongs -- in a place where he can take advantage of his superior scholarship and put his basketball strenghts to the very best use -- and to very impressive effect!

    Way to go, Mark.  No matter what the outcome of the game on Thursday, you and your teammates have the highest respect I can possibly offer, and if Kentucky goes down to defeat, I'll be pulling for your team to win it all.  Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat.

  • Kentucky vs. Cornell: A Sweet 16 game filled with intrigue | - lehighvalleylive.com

    It truly is a David vs. Goliath scenario. Can the little Ivy League school knock off the gigantic national powerhouse? I know I will be cheering for Cornell to pull off the monster upset and I have a feeling I won't be alone.

    Probably not.  This whole thing smacks of a bizarre 1966 Texas Western irony for the media.  Fill in the rest of that theory for yourselves.

  • How do you feel about "cheating" in the NCAA? | Dime Magazine (dimemag.com) : Daily NBA News, NBA Trades, NBA Rumors, Basketball Videos, Sneakers

    Whether it’s their almost unfair reservoir of talent, old bitterness renewed for a program that had been down for a few years, or just general dislike of first-year coach John Calipari, I ran into more Kentucky haters this season than I knew existed. Even on my end, I found myself rooting for UK to lose a few games along the way, just because a lot of zealous Wildcat fans I encountered needed a big "Settle Down" pill to balance their system.

    I can relate to this comment.  Some of us UK fans are waaaay over the top, and downright obnoxious.  I would like to see that come under control.  Not at A Sea of Blue, of course, but elsewhere.

    It's hard to like somebody who is in your face about how great their team is all the time.  Speak softly, and wear a lot of blue, I always say.

  • Class assignment: Compare and contrast Cornell, Kentucky - USATODAY.com
    Pretty funny.

  • Calipari: Cornell got 'worst seed in the tournament' - Sports Radio Interviews - College Basketball - Sporting News

    Calipari: The thing that I have tried to do, and I learned this from Larry Brown, is that I am more concerned about my team. I know how good they are. Our team respects every team we play because that is how we approach things. Morehead State and Murray State are just as important to us as North Carolina and Louisville. Every game matters.

    I like this attitude particularly.  Respect your opponent.  Forget that they might be smaller, or less athletic, or less talented, or ... whatever.  Treat them like the potential national champions they are.

    Respecting your opponent will get you to the mountaintop.  Overlooking them will get you back to the Craft Center.

  • Sixteen story lines - College Basketball - Rivals.com

    It’s one thing for Cornell to reach the Sweet 16. It’s entirely another for the Big Red to do it by averaging 82.5 points a game and defeating Temple and Wisconsin by 13 and 18 points, respectively. They may be from the Ivy and they may be a No. 12 seed, but this club has been dominating so far.

    Cornell is going to be a very tough out for UK.

  • Basketball Prospectus | Articles | The First Weekend

    Gasaway: I too am on full Florida-2007 alert with the Wildcats, in terms of a team stocked with NBA-track talent that looks merely pretty good in SEC play but then suddenly decides, "You know, we think we want to win this national championship thing." But I have to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Mr. Perrotto on this one. The key phrase is NBA-track talent. The Ivy League, conversely, doesn't do the whole athletic scholarship thing. I'd say it's pretty impressive for a team of future bond-traders and attorneys to manhandle the best per-possession teams in the A-10 and Big Ten. John Wall is mere weeks away from filling NBA arenas, but someday soon one of these incredible Cornell shooters will be doing my taxes or straightening my kid's teeth.

    Lots of fun banter in here.  Read the whole thing.

  • UK Basketball: Liggins was never much of an NCAA tournament watcher: AMNews.com

    "You have all still just seen glimpses of me. I am not bringing it like coach Cal wants me to," Liggins said. "That is why he is treating me the way he is. I have learned, though, what he wants and that’s the biggest positive for me this year. Next year I will know from the start what it takes and I will be able to show even more of the game I know I have."

    Liggins has had an interesting year, to say the very least.  But his determination really stands out.

  • Spring clean: Somehow, dirt doesn't stick to Calipari - CBSSports.com

    People hate Mike Krzyzewski but love Calipari. Think about that for a second.

    Two words for this Neanderthal.  If only.

  • After Kentucky, who's worthy? - Beyond the Arc - msnbc.com
  • The Short List: Kevin Stallings - Black Heart Gold Pants

    He is a two-time SEC coach of the year (including this year, which doesn't make a lot of sense beyond the fact that the other coaches really hate Calipari).

    Heh.

  • 2010 NBA Draft Prospect Profile: DeMarcus Cousins - Bullets Forever

    A full grown man, playing against 6th graders. That's what Cousins looks playing against College competition. He's a tremendously imposing physical specimen, standing every bit of 6'11", and looking like old time (1960's & 1970's) prototypical NBA Centers like Bill Lambier or Willis Reed - thick chest, broad shoulders. But Cousins is not just an impressive physical presence - he also has an impressive skill set to go with his physical gifts.

    Indeed.

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the one year rule

I agree that it SHOULD not stand up to judicial review, but I disagree on the actual outcome. Maurice Clarett’s case against the NFL was denied cert. by the Supreme Ct, and the 2nd Circuit opinion denying his claim to enter the draft was written by none other than newly minted Justice Sotomayor. The only difference I could see would be the physical safety aspect (being more of a concern in football than basketball), but I have not pored over the opinions to see how much of a factor that was. My sense is that a case against the NBA’s age rule would reach the same result as one against the NFL.

by DCBlueandWhite on Mar 23, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I just did some quick and dirty research

And found that not only did the NFL win at the 2nd Cir., it was granted summary judgment based upon what appears to be a piece of intellectual applesauce known as the nonstatutory labor exemption. The exemption is a judically created doctrine that allows certain restraints of trade so long as they are collectively bargained under labor laws.

by DCBlueandWhite on Mar 23, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah.

Perhaps it is the collective bargaining agreement that protects them after all.

Interesting. Theoretically, then, the NBA could end all this nonsense and set the entry age to say, 22 or so.

I think that’s still a bad decision, but the Supreme Court doesn’t care what I think. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Mar 23, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably Off the Subject

But, what is the deal with all the venues looking like clones of each other? Black out of bounds, bright blue arena names & blue foul circles. When did this edict go into effect. I’ve yet to hear one word about this from any source. Anyone out there have any info on this?

by Bluegilla on Mar 23, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

The colors of the "NCAA", is what I have thought ??

just thoughts. Though they are using a beautiful blue. ;-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh....

Marketing research dollars at work!

by sylvar on Mar 23, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why not adopt something similar to the MLB draft?

Players can be drafted out of highschool or must complete two years of college before being eligble again.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 23, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

NCAA denies Memphis appeal

Great timing on their part. eh?
Absolutely no reason they couldn’t have waited 2 weeks.
Bull Sh%#

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Mar 23, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

there were rumors last week

that a decision had been made. no question they sat on it for a week or so.

just when it was getting a bit better to be a cat fan in memphis.

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hang in there memphis !!

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's understandable

that fans of other teams will want to pull for the underdog.

However, you’re right about the displaced elitism. There are going to be a lot of “one and done” students at UK and every other college; and while John Wall and Demarcus Cousins go on to NBA riches, the rest of them are just going to drop out and try to find a job in a tough economy.

Instead of the showy hand-wringing regarding future millionaires, someone should try to find a way to keep marginal students in college. Of course that takes effort, which is harder than espousing some half-assed opinion.

Well, that’s my half-assed opinion, anyway.

by don'tshootmei'macard on Mar 23, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

good stuff...

“displaced elitisim” and

Instead of the showy hand-wringing regarding future millionaires, someone should try to find a way to keep marginal students in college. Of course that takes effort, which is harder than espousing some half-assed opinion.

not bad for a UL fan :)

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amen, brother.

I couldn’t have said that any better.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Mar 23, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

I’ve had some time to think about this sort of thing since I don’t have to worry about basketball again until November. sigh

by don'tshootmei'macard on Mar 24, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so half assed really

everyone loves an education but no one values it. well done sir.

I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

by bluecrip on Mar 23, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If those Cornell kids could sign a million dollar contract on Wall Street

… after one of year of college finance, they would be a fool not to do it and no one would say a word negative about it (except for the wealth envy crowd).

College for most is about signaling to potential employers that you can do the job. In sports, it doesn’t take a degree.

For some, college sports are fun. For others, they are a job interview. Cousins and Wall’s future is clear. For those that are marginal, they need to take advantage of the opportunity of a scholarship.

Most schools give them every oportunity. The only person responsible for failure is the student athlete.

Not at all sure this is relevant to the post I replied to. :)

by JackBluto on Mar 24, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorta but not really...

we were more going on about the system not taking care of marginal students and keeping them in college instead of focusing on one n done athletes and their education. BTW most of us agree with you about kids leaving early for guaranteed $.

I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

by bluecrip on Mar 24, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Derrick Rose's reaction to the appeal decision

Thought UK fans might be interested in this interview with Derrick Rose from last night. He talks about the Memphis decision around the 1 minute mark. He seems to just throw it all back on Calipari.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=7344190

by twocee on Mar 23, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, I honestly figure that Cal will probably give the $$$ back, just to get it off his plate

I could be wrong, but Rose seems to be playing the denial card really badly…..I wonder if he got Chris Webber’s advice on that one?

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 23, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Cal

is probably not looking at Rose’s SAT. He probably has someone else taking care of that process, I AM SURE OF IT. He cannot do a proper coaching job and take care of every single detail. Cal should not be held repsonsible. Look at our own Sandy Bell……..it was her office that discovered the baseball players stuff. That is their job. Coaches cannot handle everything. They just cannot. I am very protective of my Kentucky……..I will not hide my face under the covers when it comes to things like this so I feel very confident in saying that Cal did not do anything.

by tenken on Mar 23, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm honestly not trying to be contentious here...

but it seems incredibly naive to believe that any coach recruiting any athlete of Rose’s caliber is not gong to be intimately involved with the specifics of his eligibility. Sure, someone else does the day-to-day grunt work, but that person reports to the head guy. Do you really think the compliance office would not tell Cal that Rose was having trouble making a qualifying score?

Rose had taken the ACT test in Chicago three times before May 2007. He had failed to get a qualifying score each time. So one month before Rose was scheduled to arrive on the Memphis campus, he traveled to Detroit, home of the infamous William Wesley, and took the SAT using — this was the really tricky part — someone else’s handwriting.

Also, like Caulkins asks, do you really think Rose (and the compliance officer) kept his soon-to-be coach in the dark about all this?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Mar 23, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is no comparison between the way the AD's/compliance office

at UK and Memphis operate. its night and day. imo, AD office here in memphis is busch league.

that being said, i will say that cal should have known it took 4 times to pass the test and might have asked a few questions. still, once the ncaa clearing house said go ahead, what was he suppose to do.

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the compliance

office had NO IDEA that this was even going on. NCAA did an investigation and found NO wrongdoing with either the compliance office or Cal. One of our friends is the head recruiter for an NCAA team…….and no the head guy is not told. Its given solely to the compliance office. The compliance office works with each individual recruit to get them qualified. Its pretty plain and simple that Rose is the guilty party. The simply asked him to respond……he didn’t. NCAA said this is more about removing an ineligible player then punishing Memphis. It just so happens this player played in all forty games. If he hadn’t then Memphis would have not gotten any punishment whatsoever because neither they nor Cal did anything wrong. Read the report not Caulkins :).

by tenken on Mar 23, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean if

he hadn’t played in ALL 40 games, it would have been different?

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, only games he played in would have been vacated

more than likely

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

it would have. They counted off for every game that he played in. That is why people really need to understand that this is about Rose……not UofM/Cal

by tenken on Mar 23, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks tenk and memphis

I do think it is about Rose myself.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is my question --

What if a player playing in the regular season and conference tournament games, then questions come up. The team holds him out of the NCAA Tourney. They win it all. Two years later, he is declared ineligible. All regular season games vacated (which as I understand it means they don’t lose – just don’t win – not sure how losses are treated). Let’s say in the regular season and conf. tourney the team is 30-4.

Is the teams final record 6-0 (or 6-4) with a championship? Can they take away the championship on the theory that the team could not have made the tourney without the wins that were vacated?

Just curious.

by JackBluto on Mar 24, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

technically

no………in the appeals document it was what game Rose played in. I think :)

by tenken on Mar 24, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

You lost all credibility here

when you posted on RTT negative comments about Ashley Judd. You can dis Cal all you want but Ashley is off limits. :)

by kywineman on Mar 23, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey...give me a break!

I didn’t say anything bad about her, just about ABC for constantly showing us her every facial expression….

She can’t help it if she’s pretty, I’m not hating on her.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Mar 23, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hating on me is fine for sport......but most folks on here know.......I am the nicest guy in the world.....

unless you snap on Ashley, UK, or anyone around here……then you get grief……and my friends can call me ABC….you do not yet have that privelege……..

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 23, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh....

I was referring to ABC, as in American Broadcasting Company (some people do refer to it by those initials, I don’t think I’m the only one), who was televising the game upon which we were commenting on RTT, when I said I was tired of seeing Ashley Judd (which kywineman was joking with me about, hence the little smiley face).

It’s beginning to look like you are becoming a bit…overwrought?

Oh, and I’m sure you are an extremely nice person.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Mar 23, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting support from

Paris will not endear you to ABC.

by kywineman on Mar 23, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO.......now THAT is funny!!!!

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 23, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know NOTHINGGGG

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehehe....its ok....the wife knows all about it......I told her before we were married....

Allison Krause and Rhonda Vincent fall in there too….wife said if I could get any of them to take me she wouldnt stand in the way……lol……

I told her the same thing about Charlie Daniels or George Clooney……..

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 23, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ABC

I really approve of your taste in women!

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat70 on Mar 23, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

many thanks oh sage one!!!....

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 24, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Allison Krause?

No thanks. Her face looks like she went through a windshield at some point.

2 down, 4 to go. . .

by NYCCats on Mar 24, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey HEY!!!!!........

no slams on the Krause…….lol….

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have confused myself with a bastion of the entertainment industry......my apologies.....

and I dont get overwrought, I get verbally obfuscative.

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 23, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEA!

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Mar 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watched that

video……are you kidding me ROSE! What a jerk…….the appeals people plainly said if he had just answered their inquiry it could have been cleared up. They sent letters, tried to reach him etc. He never tried to respond back therefore they had nothing to do but say he was guilty of what they accused him of. This is solely on rose. If my kid gets questioned about a test that he took, and he does not answer back……its his fault and not the universities. Memphis was never contacted about this. Cal was never contacted about this. They didn’t even know. Now the compliance officer at Memphis should have made sure true……but you have to lay responsibilty on Rose and Rose alone. I am so tired of this mess. Mostly because I am sick of Memphis people blaming Cal. IF he was still there they wouldn’t be. Its just sour grapes. Memphis needs to sue Rose. Plain and simple.

by tenken on Mar 23, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I have ignored all the Rose/SAT talk (at least as much as I can ignore it)....

I don’t think it has anything to do with UK. Sure people will use it as ammunition to slam Coach Cal but they were always going to slam him.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Mar 23, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

WIsh

I could ignore it but living where I live and having Memphis graduates in my in laws……not easy. Not easy at all!!!

by tenken on Mar 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw the video as well...

rose looked like deer in the headlights.

cal did recruit him – i think it is a character issue and maybe cal as learned his lesson. wall and rose are way different from what i have seen…

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rather Lose To Duke ...

Than Cornell — for several reasons:

1) The obvious: it would mean UK made The Final Four after 11 years in the wilderness.
2) Losing to Cornell would be the beginning of Glory Road II:
    
    a. Tia Lessen — a Michael Moore protege will make a documentary
    b. Keith Olberman sure to comment in his inimitable though scurrilous manner
    c. Bill Maher will joke about it tying UK to evil capitalism
    d. Cynthia McKinney will not have anything nice to say — does she ever?

And those are just the Cornellians, can you imagine all the lines that can be drawn, all the tie-ins than can be insinuated and all the conclusions vaulted to? If you’re tired of having to relive the Laettner shot and being constantly reminded of UTEP taking down Rupp and Runts then you better pray for a victory Thursday night.

"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek

by Wild Weasel on Mar 23, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

HA AHA AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Good one WW!

Between Rose’s comments/Memphis appeal and the upcoming Cornell game I find the humorous comments refreshing amongst so much angst over nada. Perceived slights and media blights that will tarnish our fair Kentucky name and jersey will not be tolerated nor suffered without a fight!

Tenken made a good comment about Bell and Co. IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE ALL ATHLETES ARE IN COMPLIANCE. It is the responsibility of the coaches to make sure that they recruit eligible athletes.

We got the best compliance crew. We’ve had the NCAA camped out in Lexington for decades and now that Cal is in residence they finally bought themselves a spot. So what.

If the other yayhoo’s from other schools and the talking cabbages on the radio/tv/blog/online sports rag/etc haven’t figured that one out then why would I worry about what they are spewing?

I was worried about Cal’s hire. I was not happy cause I didn’t like him, lil sleazy and slimy for me. But then I had the realization about our compliance staff and now I don’t worry. Also, since Cal’s been here I’ve seen how smart he is. He knows all eyes are on him and his staff. Hell, if the NCAA had ties to the FBI our grandchildren could hear tapes released of Cal when he was recruiting Wall or Knight or the next young phenom.

I aint skeeered! We got a good compliance staff and a coach who is extremely intelligent. Every time he left a school it was a step up professionally and in status. Now, where would Cal go that would be better than Kentucky? ? ? NBA? Sure. I see that. NOT!! Not until he’s gone undefeated in college. IT CAN BE DONE!!! WE ONLY LOST TWO GAMES THIS SEASON AND IF WE LOSE AGAIN IT WILL BE THREE!!!! ONLY THREE LOSSES!!! IN HIS FIRST SEASON!!! He ain’t going nowhar anytime soon. ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! plus, I think the NBA left a bad taste in his mouth. He might get the urge in ten years like he said already, by then we will be able to handle his departure like a drunken co-ed freshman, giddy from the gifts and compliments and more than happy to let him cop a feel.

Have fun this week and get used to it!!

GO BIG BLUE!!!

I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

by bluecrip on Mar 23, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget Ann Coulter

She’s another Cornell alum. I guess wherever you are on the political spectrum, there’s extra incentive to root for their loss. As if we needed that.

by blue kentucky girl on Mar 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or The Reverse

I like AC. She speaks her mind and takes no (rhymes with spit) from anyone. Good 4 her.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all of

the outrageous unfounded remarks she makes she should be an ESPN talking head.

by kywineman on Mar 23, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's what I meant--

…that no matter where your politics or preferences lie, there’s plenty of extra motivation to want to beat Cornell, if you’re inclined to want it. Some might feel extra incentive to want to beat Cornell because of alums like Keith Olbermann or Bill Maher, as WW mentioned….I was just pointing out others might feel the same because of Ann Coulter.

by blue kentucky girl on Mar 23, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

or all three...

i dislike both extremes ends of the spectrum….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

uggh

Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher…………ugghh! Rude people……so is Ann Coulter.

by tenken on Mar 24, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amen Forty

Big +1

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat70 on Mar 24, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billy Donovan

I really do not understand this guy. Do you want to be at Florida or not? On the one hand, he loves UF, Jeremy Foley and has built a successful sustainable program. Yet, he still keeps looking at other jobs year after year. He even briefly took the Orlando Magic job only to “have a change of heart.” I am really not sure to what extent he considered the UK position or if he was, in fact, offered the job either time but he didn’t do much to quash the rumors either.

I do not begrudge anyone for peeking around and seeing what else is available. After all, he is highly desirable by most programs around the country. I do not expect any coach to say they will never leave a team, however he certainly talks to alot of schools/teams about their coaching vacancies. I told some friends earlier in the season that I thought he may bolt Florida in the next few years and I still think that is true. I just don’t think a coach entertains so many offers unless he is looking to leave.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Mar 23, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

KSR: Kanter commits to UK

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=47897

Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.

by btcoop71 on Mar 23, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet....The Turkish Tornado

UK will lose some size next season so this is a good signing…6’9" – 240lbs.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Mar 23, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!!!

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 23, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and so it starts...

dominoes falling….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Answer:

Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos said in French in his 1782 book “La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid”.

Many say Shakespeare in Hamlet because it was vengeful drama. And ABC you’re close it was also a line from Godfather.

"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek

by Wild Weasel on Mar 23, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geoff Calkins………

Yawn. Jilted lover.

To be fair to Calkins, he never cared too much for Calipari, even when he was at Memphis, so he is being consistent.

It’s hard to like somebody who is in your face about how great their team is all the time. Speak softly, and wear a lot of blue, I always say.

You are a wise and perceptive man, Mr. Tru!

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Mar 23, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

you are dead right on Calkins...

he was the original “miserable”

i think what makes it worse for him, is that after 8 years, he finally wrote a couple of positive articles on him and then Cal left.

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Mar 23, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

he did….wrote an article talking about how laughable it was to think Cal would leave Memphis…….got egg on his face!!!

by tenken on Mar 23, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Tru's comment was very wise too sdd

I try to adhere to that logic myself. I do have a lot of BLUE. ;-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Mar 23, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blue is a lovely color...

As a redhead, orange is not my best color, but I love wearing it anyway. It’s such a cheerful color.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Mar 23, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

jealous!!

I’m obsessed with red hair. I desperately want to be a redhead but I have olive skin and brown eyes (and naturally blond hair, which is strange because that doesn’t go with the other two at all), pretty much the antithesis of the coloring you need to be a redhead. Sadness.

I also strongly agree with Tru’s wisdom about not being an obnoxious fan. I HATE those people. I never, ever, ever bait fans of other teams about that stuff. I have a friend on Facebook who’s a Louisville fan and we went on, constantly, ALL SEASON LONG about how overrated UK was and how awful the SEC was and how dominant and impossibly hard the Big East was. Needless to say, he’s quit posting about basketball at all now. It’s killing me not to throw that back at him now, now that the Big East has proved not quite so mighty, but I don’t want to be “that girl.”

by blue kentucky girl on Mar 23, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Believe me...

the sunburns and the freckles are a high price to pay! BTW, I’ve known a couple of people with dark red hair and brown eyes, and it looks great together – very, well, sort of exotic (no, not that kind of exotic) so maybe you could try it out. I’ve always wanted to try being a blonde for a little while, but never had the courage — I did manage to produce three blonde children, though!

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Mar 23, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

Brown eyes and red hair is a rare but seriously freaking awesome combination. It’s more my skin tone I’m worried about…I have a feeling the yellow in my skin would really pop out with red, and I’d be approaching Simpsons territory : )

by blue kentucky girl on Mar 23, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you two want to start a health and beauty blog????.....lol

you dont need to change a thing there BKG…..youre working that glasses and blonde hair thing…..

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 24, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...

small beauty-related tangent, nothing to see here :)

by blue kentucky girl on Mar 24, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

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