CBS: Tubby to Auburn
by btcoop71 on Mar 19, 2010 10:14 AM EDT
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Saw this while perusing the destruction of the bracket that I filled out on CBS Sports. I think this would be interesting to say the least. I've heard rumors about him and the Oregon job, but this is the first time I've seen him linked to another SEC school.
Personally, I'm all for it. And I for one would cheer him the first time he brought them to Rupp.....if this happens. You can question Tubby the coach/recruiter.....but you can never question Tubby the man.
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my!!!!! Well that shocks me! I don’t see him returning to the SEC. Auburn is not a place that will be successful until they get better facilities. I am not sure that is a good move.
Auburn is opening a new arena next year
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
Yeah
I read that after I posted……that is good. Still don’t see it and pretty classless to post this before his game at Minnesota today. I cannot believe some of these sportswriters.
It's 100% Baloney
Tubby is very happy in Minnesota. He has said that NUMEROUS TIMES this month and this year.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I figured as much
You usually don’t get breaking CBB news from Dennis Dodd……interesting nonetheless.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
No
Pitino and Tubby aren’t in the same universe (as liars).
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see him there.
The SEC needs to find some good to great coaches to put in place in their basketball programs. The losses yesterday by Florida and Vanderbilt show that we certainly aren’t a ‘basketball’ conference.
The status of a Tubby Smith would bring recognition that a school is trying to improve, and be just a diversion until spring practice.
Tennesseee made the step so why shouldn’t Auburn?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I would pay money to see UK-AU if he comes.
And for the record, I think he could win big at Auburn. It’s a tough job, but it’s not impossible. Especially in what is right now a Wild, Wild, and wide open Western Division.
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Tubby is very happy in Minnesota and has stated that publicly this week.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Tubby wouldnt be the first coach
to state publicly that he was happy somewhere – staying even – one week and then leave the next. I dont know whether its true or not, I’m just sayin its not like that has never happened before.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 19, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Repeating
The report is hogwash. It MAY refer to Minnesota assistant Vince Taylor.
Tubby will retire at Minnesota.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Case in point:::
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/mar/27/john-calipari-insists-memphis-where-i-want-coach/
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
touche
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
didnt Tubby say just a couple of days before he took the Minn job that he was happy here and was looking forward to getting UK back on top?
Tubby's Wife Said (In October 2006)
(roughly quoting her) No, We Aren’t Going To Install The Pool Because We’re Moving.
The same guy who heard her say that is now installing a pool for Coach Calipari.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont know what Donna told the pool boy...
But what Tubby said in front of the TV camera was a little different.
Telling Ya, Straight Up
I knew he was leaving in October 2006.
I didn’t know where until March 2007.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was very skeptical about this report.
Still am.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 19, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Gamecock, you are going to pay to see the games!
Kentucky could probably charge a little extra for the game
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I would love to see him at Auburn, but I am with Forty.....
dont see this happening…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
They promised him a new arena at Minnesota. Hasn’t happened. So, in conclusion, you, me and others don’t know what might be going through Auburn’s, Tubby’s or any one else’s mind.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Check this out
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/03/minnesota_ad_has_heard_the_rum.html
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
any then again, Billy G. is out there and at least one athletic director saw him as a savior to a program.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I Recommend Auburn Hire Gillispie
That would be helpful to UK.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hehehe.....dont pull any punches Forty....tell them what you really think....hehehe
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Would love to see him come
But agree with all the people posting on that blog that posting that was a complete lack of class. Minnesota is still playing today. He shouldn’t be allowed to post on restroom walls after making such a statement on CBS Sports.
Also if he were to leave....
I’d think Florida would want him. Billy D isn’t getting the job done as of late. It appears that his time at the top was even shorter than Ricky’s.
Speaking of coaches leaving
did the Nets hire a coach for next season yet?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
St. Johns fired their coach today
Add that to Seton Hall and Oregon
Two NY area jobs open? You have to think one of them will go after Pitino.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
I think alot of people would go after Pitino.
The question is would Pitino take any of those jobs. I don’t see any of the three being a step up for him. But then again it would be a good places to be put out to pasture.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
All the best
I have always and will continue to wish Tubby and Donna the best of luck in their endeavors. I highly respect him as a coach and as a gentlemen.
I will never forget the day I heard that he was leaving. I was so upset because I didn’t feel that we (as in the Big Blue Nation) had given him the respect that he deserved. I still feel that way. It might have been (and hindsight tends to suggest that it was) the right time for him to leave, but I wish our fan base had been more dignified in sending him off.
If he does end up coaching an SEC team, I will make sure I get tickets to that game. I will stand and applaud as he enters the arena. Then cheer loudly for my Cats to dismantle his team.
I think 2 years of BCG was payback to the fanbase for our treatment of Tubby
I loved Tubby I just wished he could get more of the high profile recruits but who knows how much that was him versus other factors at play.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I Must Respectfully Disagree
No one mistreated anybody. UK fans (on the whole, not every single one) were VERY GOOD to Tubby and Donna. He’d say the exact same thing.
He changed jobs, that’s all. Pitino changed jobs. I’ve changed jobs.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
My problem with Tubby...........
Is that we got Sal and not Jr. :) I wish him and Donna the best.
Saul
110-33 with 1 NCAA title, 3 SEC titles, and 3 SECT championships at UK.
Top 10 (or close to it) in all-time Assists and Steals at UK.
Many other PG would take those numbers/results.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think ...
… that anyone who believes Smith is leaving Minnesota after three years is delusional.
I don’t care who reports it.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
We have one vote for hogwash and and for delusional,
anyone else?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
and a 100% Baloney!
So, it ain’t going to happen. Call Vegas and bet the ranch on it. LOL
Aren’t opinions wonderful?
Just picking on you guys. I don’t want to be too sure either way.
Who’d thought Pitino would have ever left Kentucky? Oh, you did?
Would Tubby leaving Minnesota and the “Barn” be as so sure if their wasn’t a salary concern and the fact Auburn is going into a new arena and probably a bundle of money available?
Tubby’s only reason not to take the job is he’s too honorable to walk out on players he may have promised he’d be there. He’s turned around a program who’s major sport is ice hockey and gone further in the BIg 10 tournament than they’ve ever been before. Three twenty wins seasons, etc.
Let’s see what happens,
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I've Communicated (Today) With His Boss And Right Hand "Person" At The U
He’s not leaving Minnesota, they say. I agree with them.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Another view from the Atlanta Journal
http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2010/03/19/tubby-smith-may-be-headed-back-to-sec-to-auburn/
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Sound like Forty has the inside track BUT
I would still love to see him at Auburn. He would make them a relevant team in the SEC. Hes a good coach just not so good of a recruiter.
Tubby was a great recruiter.......
Are you kidding me? If anything, Tubby just didn’t get the most out of his recruits. Mostly his style of play and maybe a little lack of a motivator, but the man could recruit. The only reason Tubby wasn’t a god in this state was because BBN was spurned by Pitino leaving and Tubby was always compared to Pitino. Well, I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again. Pitino is/was not that great of a coach. Not even on the same level with Tubby. Pitino just was in the right place at the right time, and happened to bring his press with him. If Pitino was so great, UL would be better. Look at what Tubby has done in 3 years at a hockey school. I would LOVE to have Tubby coaching in the SEC, but I hope for Minn’s sake he stays the course.
how many of his players are in the Major Leagues compared to other so called great coaches?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Rick or Tubby?
Just need to know how to address the ensuing sarcasm.
Tubby
For me? I’ll take Tubby. He wasn’t rumored to be going to the NBA every year.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
yep, and not have to be concerned with all the baggage that comes with the others
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
UL looked real relevant tonight....
Tubby’s last few years were not the best, but at least we had class at the helm.
Tubby Has Put (19) Players/Recruits Into NBA
In 19 seasons. He’s well above avergae in that category.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So Forty...
How many recruits did Ricky P. have go to the NBA in his years at KY. I cant find that stat. How many recruits of Tubbys came to KY and left? Tubby couldnt recruit the A list players. He did an exceptional job at coaching up what he had, but he didnt get the guys that would put us over the top.
Sure U Can (Jon Scott)
Pitino put none from Boston U into NBA. One from Providence. He put (about) 12 at UK into NBA. And a few from Louisville, not many.
About the same as Tubby – average of 1 per year.
Pitino recruited 5 “A” list players (McDonalds A-A) in 8 years at Kentucky. Tubby recruited 7 “A” list players (McD A-A) in 10 years at UK. Again, about the same.
Ditto for Top 50 rated or Top 100 rated players – very similar numbers (per year) at UK.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
You actually wish Pitino was still here? Are you sure you aren’t ULTimmy hoping to get rid of your old coach? I take Tubby 100 times over and twice on Sunday. Pitino reached his pinnacle in ’96. He will never return to what he was then, or for that matter be relevant.
As far as Tubby letting players go, again, are you kidding me? Carruth sure did a lot when he was asked to leave. Hogan and I think it was Parker were kicked off for smoking weed. Good Riddance!!
Bradley(that ransferrred) and Magloire accused of smoking weed as well
They hung out at the “hip joint” and “Busters” with a crowd that was very much into the drug culture. Many I know will swear to seeing them smoke it with them, including me.
"all the way"
Not A Big Deal For Me
If NCAA kicked out every player who did that, there would be a tough time finding 5 to play for each team.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
what are you doing hanging out in such a place? Wouldn’t that make your statement ‘clouded’?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
That might have happened....
But that doesn’t make it right.
I never said I wanted Pitino.
YOU should reread. I mentioned that I would love Tubby at Auburn and he is a great coach but not a good recruiter. Dont read into things that werent said.
Yea, you tell em'!
psst, I’m not a Pitino fan but do you think he came in at a ‘down’ time and got the program to respectibility? He did win a national championship but hey, they pass one of those out each year and maybe he was just first in line.
Tubby would be good for anyone’s program. He’s going to get good players, built a structure others can depend on when he leaves and you don’t have to worry about a ‘lack of institutional control’ jumping up and biting you on the butt when he leaves.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Well Paris,
If you look at Duke’s region this year I would say yes, they certainly do TRY and hand out championships. Kidding aside, I appreciate everything Pitino did for UK. He was a great coach at the time. I think a lot of his coaching ability had to do with recruiting and his press.
Wnen do you feel Ricky took the dumb a-s pill and forgot how to coach? Didn’t he beat the ’Cuse twice this year?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Well gotta stick my 2 cents in here. Don't think my son or anyone else implied
RP’s taken a dumb-a pill……just that the game is not the same game it was 15 years ago. I’ve ALWAYS said RP would not have won a championship with the kids Tubby had. I mean Jeff Shephard and Padgett are your two best players?
RP’s a good coach but I think even he agrees that his time at UK was special in a lot of ways……his running pressing style was relatively unique. I mean look at a team with Feldaus and Pelphry beating a team with Shack and Chris Jackson. Living in Louisville and watching them……same coach, VASTLY different results and that’s the bottom line.
Tubby’s also a good coach…..let’s mostly all agree on that. He never played RP’s style and that bothered a lot of UK fans comparing the two styles. He was a “good” recruiter and for those who don’t remember, a couple of his classes fell apart due to the players personalities…..heck people were screaming for him to kick Gerald Fitch off the team and he wouldn’t. You could even make an argument that his recruits have been more successful in the NBA than RP’s…..Rondo & Prince have championships. Bottom line with Tubby IMO is that he got tired of the hotseat……simple as that
You can't fix "stupid"!
No problems with opinions
I have no problem with anyone having opinions. That is what makes this blog interesting.
The good coach, Rich Brooks, I believe had to ask someone when they thought he forgot how to coach.
Pitino was one game away from the Final Four last year. Tubby was a high ankle sprain away from the same when Bogans went down. Huggins who everyone thought was past his prime is a two seed I see. Pitino was an assistant under the current Syrcuse coach. I don’t think any of those has let the game pass them by.
There’s a lot of one or two season wonders out there. Louisville will be competitive as long as Pitino is there. And so will Duke with their coach, and Kansas, and North Carolina. Schools of that caliber don’t often hire someone unproven. I know Indiana did, but they fired one of the winningest coaches of all time. About any one was going to be a step down. Kentucky did the same. Wasn’t Billy G. an up and comer? How actually up and coming was he? Well, he beat Tricky Ricky right there in Rupp so he was going to be the savior of the blue grass. After a trip to the NIT it was decided maybe he ’didn’t fit’. Isn’t that what the athletic director said?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Agree with every point you made. Was Roy a better coach last year than
this year? Billy D knew how to coach for two years but since then he’s forgotten? Even Coach K has his doubters after the last few years.
College basketball is a lot like every job in America right now….what have you done for me lately?
You can't fix "stupid"!
Dad, I need to borrow 2 more cents
I don’t think a pill was necessarily needed. UL is not UK by any stretch of the imagination when Basketball is concerned. Rick is and was a great recruiter and motivator. In game coach, not so much. Ask 10 UL fans and they will tell you the same thing. The difference is the talent pool at UK goes into the deep end. UL’s is barely hitting 5 feet. When I think a great coaches and I think of guys that can do both. Coach K, Izzo, Tubby, and Self to name a few. Knight and Crum were definitely there in their prime.
And as far as beating ‘Cuse twice this year, that and a movie stub will get you an early exit in the tourney. Cal didn’t have the game of their lives to beat UL tonight. And they certainly aren’t that much of a better team. I honestly think that UL might have been one of the only teams in the South that could have beaten Duke. The problem is that UL this year and in years past can get really fired up for one game ( ‘Cuse this year, the team before Mich St. last year) and then turn right around and lay an egg. Good coaches don’t let that happen often. Rick has let it happen too often at UL. Also I don’t think you will find too many good coaches who blame 18-22 year-old boys for losses as Pitino has done in the recent past. That is why IMHO Rick had better leave for the NBA, win a championship in the next few years (which won’t happen), or start packing his bags.
To clarify above....
Those 10 fans would tell you that Pitino couldn’t coach his way out of a paper sack. Not that UK is the far superior team/institution. They’d be thinking about that. Having nightmares about it. But you’d never actually get one to admit to it.
Like Every Coach, Pitino Is Better When He Has Great Talent
His two most talented UK teams were 1996 and 1997 = 69-7.
His other UK teams were good but = 150-43.
He is (or was) a superb motivator.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Barnes really didn't get the job done with talent.
I never said he wasn’t a good motivator. Just that he simply is not a good game coach.
Which John Wooden Was Better Game Coach?
1949 to 1963 (1 FF, 0 NC) or 1964 to 1975 (11 FF, 7 NC)?
The latter UCLA teams had >>> talent than the former teams did.
TALENT makes coaches better.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Historical Revisionism
Until lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunters.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Numbers Tell The Story, Not Lions Or Liars
11 active coaches have won NCAA titles. Pitino and Tubby are 2 of them.
The Top 10 active (veteran = 10+ years) coaches in Div I include Pitino and Tubby.
The Top 10 active coaches (by W-L % in NCAA games, minimum of 10) include P and T.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 19, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Some one has to get the better draw. I really haven’t looked at the regions to disect who got the better deal. I doublt anyone is going to get a pass to the finals. Notre Dame bit the dust. I loved that. Hell, I even pull for Tennessee when they play the Irish.
Could you dislike of Duke have anything to do with you’re feeling they are getting a cake walk?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
My dislike for Duke takes on many forms.
But I would have to say that I am not the only one that things Duke got a cake walk. There is no question that Duke was not the 1 or 2 seed. The selection committee for some reason had them at 3. Ok, no biggie. Tell me why then that as the third highest seed they are playing the weakest 2? Without question, the weakest two. Villanova is the third best team in the Big East. Then you have Purdue. Who I feel so bad for, but without their star player should not be a 4.
Paris, normally that better draw goes to your overall number one and trickles down. If you had taken a poll a week ago and asked 2000 people from across the country who would be in the Final Four, your responses would be somewhat varied. If you asked them Sunday at 10pm, you would have to be crazy or a Prophet not to have Duke there. The bottom line is that Duke is a good team, with a great coach. That good team and great coach don’t deserve to have their hand held while they walk to the Final Four. I’m not saying it is going to happen. There are plenty more games and upsets to be had. I just don’t think it is fair the way the cards were dealt.
Also, I am not really mad for UK. KU is the team that got screwed. I agree with, I think it was ABC, that thought that these teams were the perfect test runs for UK for the teams they should play if seeding leads to the finals.
Duke?
and all this time I thought they won one of the major basketball conferences in the country! I bet they wouldn’t have finished in the top four in the SEC.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
4 ACC Teams Remain Alive In NCAA
2 SEC teams do.
ACC > SEC this year.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said the SEC was superior.
The SEC has been weak for a while. If the SEC wasn’t so poor this year, UK would have been the overall #1. No question. You are missing my point.
Duke Would Have Been 2nd In SEC
Behind Kentucky.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I’ve always heard they don’t give the tournament to anyone.
Seems especially this year. That’s why you play the games.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Forty
the one issue I have with your thoughts is…..you think that Tubby was treated well while here. I really don’t understand why you think that. For the most part he was treated well by the majority of the fanbase. BUT, he faced more critics then he should have especially after the 05 season. He had us relevant for most of his tenure but the fanbase never seem to appreciate him. I am just really shocked that you said that.
Not What I Said
A minority of UK fans didn’t treat him so well. They wanted him gone in 1999.
A majority of UK fans did treat him well. Tubby has stated that many times.
A relatively small but vocal minority disliked Tubby for reasons other than basketball.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 20, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not all of us...
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 22, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
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