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I saw an interesting take on the tournament expansion the other day, from someone who suggested 4 play-in games. One for each region. I was at first dismissive until I thought about it. I really is an intriguing idea. would get an additional 6 teams in without expanding the brackets.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 17, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I noticed someone said that the other day, too,

and I just let it go then, but, since you brought it up again, that actually only adds 3 teams to the tournament, not 6. Each play-in game only adds 1 team.

by mess038 on Mar 17, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad.....cant count

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 17, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think 4 play-in games would be that bad either.

I would like to see the play-in games be for the bubble teams though, not necessarily the 16 seeds who won their conference tournament. Have the play-in winner be the 12 or 13 seed (presumably be the last at-large teams selected).

by mess038 on Mar 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the person that thought up the idea added that it would be good to make the winner of the

play in the 8-9 seed. To add something interesting to the mix.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not as awful as a whole new round.

Still, I think the play-in game is a joke. I’d Rather they just went with 64 teams and have done.

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by Glenn Logan on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've gotten use to the play-in game

but think the NCAA could better use the game. This year they had two tournament champions play to get that final seat.

A couple things could be improved. First, if you win a conference tournament, regardless of its quality, you should get a seat. It seems ridiculous that winning a conference doesn’t get you ahead of at least a couple of the at-large teams. Secondly, use some of those at large teams to build a quasi-marquee game to raise awareness of the tournament (not required for our area). With all of the games coming up this weekend I would have enjoyed watching something like Florida vs Wake Forest or Missouri vs Minnesota on a slow Tuesday night.

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually like that idea.....make all of the play in games from the at large bids.....

I do wonder if it would water down the brackets though, some of the at-large teams are better than some of the conference champs

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

but since it’s highly doubtful they will end up much further than the bad conference champs, let them play early to give us some good match ups then the winners can beat up the bad champs.

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the best expansion suggestion I've heard

1. All conference winners get in without a play-in game.
2. Bubble teams get one last chance. (Rule: only the winning play-in teams are considered tourney participants; it’s a play-in, not an actual part of the tourney.)
3. TV gets the potential for some additional big-name match-ups, which I’m sure would draw better ratings than the current play-in game.
4. It adds uncertainty to the overall bracket, because they could play in for 10-13 seeds, which definitely have the potential to win a few games in the tourney, as opposed to playing in for the 16-seeds, followed 2 days later by a game against one of the top overall teams.

by cmadler on Mar 18, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the tournament expansion idea (to 96)...stupid stupid stupid

The argument that it may save some coaches from getting fired may be legit. However, what happens to those coaches that don’t make the tournament when there are 96 teams? Seems to me like it would open the door for more firings.

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by SevenRings on Mar 17, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think it'll save coaches at all

The first year or two it might – while everyone adjusts to the idea that it is no longer an accomplishment to make the tournament – but soon those same coaches will be fired because they can’t win a game or two in the new tournament.

The Incredibles got it right: “When everyone is made special, no one will be.”

Personally, I blame Boheim for this after he whined about going to the NIT a few years in a row.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

instead of 32 coaches not winning a tourney game there will be 48 coaches not winning.

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adding the play in games .... That would be me ....

I’m not sure logistically it can work though …. The 4 one seeds play two on Thursday and two on Friday so either there has to be 4 play-in games Wednesday or 2 Tuesday and then 2 Wednesday. But it would free up 6 additional at large bids.

Although the way Arizona State tanked in the NIT, it makes you wonder about the selections overall. I understand why Florida got in and MSU didn’t – I just thought MSU had really come together at the end of the season …. that got me to thinking.

I’m totally against going to 96 or more though.

by ukcris on Mar 17, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

It's the leprechaun

and I think he has been in the green beer. ;-)

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by a2d2 on Mar 17, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone's been watching Spam-A-Lot

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Mar 17, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spammers.

Now they are residing in /dev/null. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at their bio

They joined and spammed on many of the SBNation blogs today. I think I need to visit their site just to * with them.

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

on orton...

i ran into a former assistant coach in the airport recently – i had met him at the father/son camps.

we talked about several interesting things. one thing he mentioned is that he thought orton was unhappy early in the season. i figure after missing your senior year in HS, the last thing you want to do is sit your freshman year – especially when he would have been the starter had Cal not come. although he has porbably gotten over it, as late as the game at vandy, you could see his frustration at coming out in his body language.

i believe it would be a huge mistake for him to leave after one year, but if he did have a good tourny, who knows. if he performed next year like he did during his stint in the miss state final, i have to believe he is a lock for a lottery pick next year

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by memphis wildcat on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Think you're right

A few decent games at the end of the season (including one he walked out on) and some flashes of brilliance sporadically through the season doesn’t really make up a body of work to make an NBA evaluation. Even if some NBAer said go he’d be a late rounder and a development project.

If he didn’t like the pine time at UK it would really upset him at the next level. Next year at UK – pine time only for resting and NBA value greatly increases.

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel may very well be next year's DeMarcus...especially if he spends another summer out in Cali with that training guru

Daniel has less fat than DeMarcus, and is in better shape, he just needs to learn the footwork and positioning that DeMarcus seems to come by naturally.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He definitely has the potential

and he is overcoming some of his passiveness. Hopefully, the footwork and positioning work will lead to some better shot conversion. He missed so many 3 – 6 foot shots it really discouraged him. He needs the confidence that is slowly building. Next year, assuming Cousins moves on, maybe not having the shadow of Demarcus’ aura around the whole team will give him the opportunity to blossom. It had to be hard to step back, even though Cousins was obviously on a development curve no one anticipated.

It would be great if they find another big man for the team, Daniel is going to have to be constantly challenged in practice to get where he needs to be. Are there any big men on the recruitment list that could fill the bill?

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enes Kanter could possibly come in and even challenge him for a starting spot......

Kanter is a serious prospect…….serious

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 17, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He slipped my mind

(like so many other things). From what I’ve see of Kanter he would also be a good complement to Orton and could play PPat’s role used in this year’s hybrid offense.. Heh, we may never see the pure DDM offense.

by hoboat33 on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Patterson gone,

Orton and Kanter could both start…

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by blbskue on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just said that.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

March Madness

effects ALL thinking. ’-)

by hoboat33 on Mar 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

players are drafted on potential...

not many big guys are around. not saying he would be a lottery pick this year but no doubt he will be.

that being said, if he has a monster ncaa tournament – even if he does not start – an nba team desperate for a big man might take a chance on him

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by memphis wildcat on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game Time

Does anybody know what time Kentucky would end up playing on Saturday? I haven’t seen it released anywhere, but you would assume CBS would have it laid out by now.

by Adam Carrico on Mar 17, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

UK Atheletics site still has it TBA

http://www.ukathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/kty-m-baskbl-sched.html

Would assume CBS wants to know who the matchups are before figuring out who gets prime time.

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by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Orton Is No Cousins

Nor will he ever be — that is in no way disparaging Daniel Orton but more a commentary on the unique abilities* of Cousins — but he can be an outstanding college 5 and have a successful and profitable pro career.

  • Primarily hands and feet supplemented with high basketball IQ.

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by Wild Weasel on Mar 18, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the recruiting situation is going to sort itself out shortly after the tournament

As soon as John, DeMarcus, Patrick and the rest of the gang sit down with Cal and map out the future, we will know how many we need for next year. My gut tells me we will have 5-6 scholarship slots available, and since only one has been filled, we will be needing some of these high profile recruits who have yet to sign.

I really do think that is why some have waited to commit, they wanted to see how many slots we would have available.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 18, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You hit the nail

When you read all of the recruiting news the better to best players are, for the most part, talking about making their decision in mid April. The dominoes are lined up – players satisfaction with tourney results determine whether to jump into NBA, Kentucky has the most players in that situation, decisions will dictate scholarship availability and which players are holding over for another year.

5 star recruits want situations where they can start immediately and should the bizarre happen and Wall stays, we’d be covered for the guard position. Once again, Kentucky is getting to be the lynchpin in recruiting. That’s nice.

by hoboat33 on Mar 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enjoyed the "what if" article by Andrew Sharp

And, did we hear if the apology letter from Goins ever got to Lexington? ;-)

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by a2d2 on Mar 18, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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