2010 SEC Mens Basketball Tournament Round 1 Preview and Open Thread
The SEC Tournament starts today in Nashville. Obviously, this is the last chance for teams to make an impression on the NCAA tournament committee, and there are many teams in the SEC that need to do so in order to avoid the inglorious fate of the NIT or CBI. There are even more that need an outright tournament victory in order to avoid the ignominious fate of watching the post-season from the comfort of their dorm rooms.
As far as teams that are on the proverbial "bubble" right now and need to do more to get into the NCAA tournament, here's what I think:
- Mississippi St. has to get to the finals to have a shot at the dance. Otherwise, it's the NIT for them.
- Ole Miss needs to get to the finals, I think, to have a chance. They have one quality out-of-conference win versus the Kansas St. Wildcats, but they have an embarrassing lost to the Arkansas Razorbacks at home to offset that.
- The Florida Gators need at least two wins to be confident of getting in, but Florida has a couple of quality OOC wins, unlike most of the rest of this group.
- The Florida and the Mississippi St. paths to the SEC Tournament final are mutually exclusive due to the tournament draw.
- Ole Miss most likely gets Kentucky in the semifinals. They had best pray for an upset.
With all that said, let's look at the games on tap for today and do some quick handicapping after the jump.
Game #1 -- South Carolina Gamecocks (E5) @ Alabama Crimson Tide (W4) -- 12:00 Noon, SEC Network
These two teams are evenly matched. If you look at their statistics, you find that there is not a thumbnail's worth of difference between these two in the Four Factors, and the line has the Crimson Tide a 1-point favorite. That's what you'd expect from the 4-5 seed game.
The best either team can hope for barring an SEC Tournament victory is an NIT spot, so I think the motivation for both of them is about the same. This game is not "do or die" in the sense of post-season hopes for either squad. With that said, what usually rules in tournament games is guard play, and the Gamecocks have better guard play. I pick South Carolina in the mildest of upsets, 72-67.
Game #2 -- LSU Tigers (W6) @ Tennessee Volunteers (E3) -- circa 2:15 PM, SEC Network
Tennessee comes into this game playing good basketball, and LSU comes in off an upset over the Georgia Bulldogs in Baton Rouge. Statistically, Tennessee is a much better shooting and ballhandling team and gets to the line more, but LSU is the better rebounding squad.
Tennessee is playing for a better seed. Right now, I figure them at a four or five, but a deep run in the SEC tournament combined with their high number of quality wins could get them all the way up to a three. They will be highly motivated. The Tigers are playing for pride only, but LSU won this tournament the conference last year and would like to get to the NCAA tournament again. The Volunteers are 12.5 point favorites, and I see them winning this game 80-67.
Game #3 -- Auburn Tigers (W5) @ Florida Gators (E4) -- 6:30 PM, SEC Network
This game is really all about the Gators' NCAA Tournament hopes -- lose this one and it's quite likely "Hello, NIT" for the third straight year. Statistically, it's a pretty close game, but the Gators do one thing the Tigers don't -- win games.
Auburn has pulled a few surprises this year against Georgia and Mississippi St., but I think the Gators will be focused, fighing as they are for their post-season lives, and they have been playing pretty good basketball of late. They gave Kentucky plenty of game in Rupp Arena, and unless that took all the fight out of them, they figure to be in good here. The Gators are 6-point favorites, and my prediction is 70-60 Florida.
Game #4 -- Georgia Bulldogs (E6) @ Arkansas Razorbacks (W3) -- Circa 8:45 PM, SEC Network
Here is the game that figures to be an upset. Georgia is a much better team than their record indicates, and even though they are on a two-game losing streak including a bad upset by LSU in Baton Rouge, the Bulldogs know that they are better than that, and Mark Fox has proven to be a good coach despite a fairly rocky first year.
Statistically, this is another close matchup. With Courtney Fortson in the lineup and Rotnei Clarke shooting threes, Arkansas is by far the more explosive of the two teams. But Georgia does have Trey Thompkins and the remarkable Travis Leslie, and those guys are going to get points and rebounds versus anybody. This one is called a pick-em by the oddsmakers, and it truly figures to be a great game. I believe Georgia's strength on the glass earns them this one, 75-71.
There are my picks, but you are more than welcome to add yours below. Also, I highly recommend you follow along periodically with SB Nation's SEC Tournament story stream for the latest from SEC team blogs and the SB Nation team.
Treat this as an open thread all day for discussing the tournament, the Kentucky Wildcats, the news, whatever. We'll have more later, as always.
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Tennessee
has been so inconsistent at times this year, I look for them to bow out early.
Not with the path they're looking at.
They would play LSU and then Ole Miss tomorrow. I think they’ll get that far, at least.
If they beat UK, they can beat anyone.
by mrmondaynite on Mar 11, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
If I'm looking at the schedule right, I think
they’ll beat LSU, beat Ole Miss, then lose to UK.
by mrmondaynite on Mar 11, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I have as well.
I just dont see Ole Miss beating Tennessee.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed...
The Cats beat SC tomorrow and Tennessee on Saturday to truly settle up those earlier defeats. And then it’s probably Vandy come Sunday in what will be a tough game against the hometown team. Though I don’t discount the possibility that Georgia or Florida could make a run starting today and get to that championship game.
They beat LSU but struggled
to do so. The way the bye teams are falling in some of the tourneys, they might take out Ole Miss but I still wouldn’t be surprised if they fall apart.
I will buy you a a new pet if I'm wrong, wineman.
by mrmondaynite on Mar 11, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
I already have two dogs,
but you could help with the dogfood.
Everything there looks about status quo......
I would love for Anthony Grant to get his first SEC Tournament win this year……but not likely….And I am praying for Pelphrey and LSU, not becuase I care who we play, but because those guys could use a break this year.
I think this year’s tournament is more about the haves and have nots than it has been in the past……but who knows, maybe another Georgia rears their head…..hey, maybe it IS Georgia?
One thing I would like to suggest to the SEC, and that would be to add Freedom Hall to their list of potential Tournament sites from this next year forward. Nothing wrong with Atlanta or Nashville, I am just tired of Georgia and Vandy not having to travel.
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So...
are you really praying for LSU to beat Tennessee? Seriously? And just because they could “use a break”? Nothing to do with their opponent?
Really?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
honestly I just like Trent Johnson......I think he is a good guy who couldnt buy a break this year
with Bill Gates bank account….nothing to do with you guys…..sorry….. same as my thoughts for John Pelphrey
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Okay...
I guess I can see that. They certainly fell a long way from last year. I’ll just send them a fruitcake or something, though….
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
believe it or not, not EVERY thought here in the Big Blue Nation is about hating UT
ALMOST every one….but not all…..lol
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Quite true.
We also express hatred for Louisville, Florida and Vandy.
by wklawdog on Mar 11, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If they added Freedom Hall
Then that could satisfy Cal’s desire to have 3 games in Louisville each year – maybe then he would change his mind about the importance of the SECT ;-)
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
I dont know if they would even consider it, but I think that Freedom Hall would be a great venue
for the tournament.
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Have they ever...
had the tournament in Memphis, at FedEx Forum? That might be kind of cool.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
pyramind is sitting empty...
has been for 5 or so years. the tournament was in the pyramid. now both u of m and the grizzlies play in fedex forum – state of the art nba facility.
rumor was that they might move the ole miss – uk game next year into fedex forum instead of playing at oxford…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Mar 12, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I went to the Tourney when it was in Memphis....
and it was so much more fun than anytime I’ve been in Nashville or Atlanta
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Are these games streaming anywhere?
Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dips**ts.
If it's anywhere ...
… it will probably be on the SEC digital network site.
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I thought I saw something about KYT streaming it, but I dont know......
maybe our friends over at justin.tv will have something
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Someone on
ADTHE.net or justin.tv will have them.
by mrmondaynite on Mar 11, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Harder vs. Easier Roads to Title Game
I agree both Ole Miss and Miss St. need deep runs to make the NCAA Tournament. They are extremely similar power-rankings and Four Factors wise, but according to some simulations from TeamRankings.com, Miss. St is much more likely to make the tournament final (http://www.teamrankings.com/ncb/conference-tournaments/sec/). This is because Ole Miss would probably have to beat Tennessee and Kentucky to make the final whereas Mississippi St. would only have to beat Auburn/Florida and probably Vanderbilt. Conference tournament seeding definitely matters.
Err...about LSU
I think you have them confused with Miss St regarding last year’s SEC tournament winner Tru ;-)
For Ole Miss, they also have a NC win over a good UTEP team, but I agree with you that they need to make the finals to have a shot at an at-large. That shot will be much better if they knock off Tennessee and UK to get there though.
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
Yeah, I goofed.
Thanks for reminding me.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 11, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
UK's draw is potentially its worst case scenario.
It could be USC, which beat UK, followed by UT, which beat UK, followed by Vandy, which played UK to the last possession.
And that is exactly who we will play. And we will win the rubber matches and sweep Vandy in a tight one.
I would love to get another shot at the Gamecocks.
Just to show ‘em who’s on first. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 11, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Vandy is nowhere near as tough to beat when you get them out of Memorial.
WKU beat them in Nashville this year. Their fans turn out for the home gym but don’t pay extra to go elsewhere. If we meet them in final, no problems.
They are in Nashville.
I realize it isn’t their home gym, but I have to think they will be well represented.
lawdog, lawdog, lawdog,
now, I love a little fan smack talk as much as the next person and please don’t take this the wrong way, as I really am joking with you here, but I’m not sure if you should be the one to talk too much smack, I mean, weren’t you the one who told Gamecock Man that his “bourbon” (or something similar) would be safe the night we played and lost to SC? He said something about only breaking out the “good stuff” if they won, and you told him, “nah, don’t worry, it’ll be safe.”
I only remembered that because I thought it was so hilarious at the time, and, of course, our loss had really nothing whatsoever to do with you making that guarantee, but in the interest of being extra safe here, maybe you should leave the guarantees to those who have a bit better record? ; )
Oh, and did I mention that I hate (in the sports-sense of the word “hate”), I mean really hate Vandy. : )
You wound me BSCat
Everyone remembers when you get one wrong, not the many you get right. Oh well.
As for the Vandy thing, I am not kidding about their fanbase. When WKU played them in the Sunbelt Challenge, in the same gym that the SEC tourney is in today, WKU had a bigger crowd. The Nashville radio shows were talking about how Vandy fans did not show up and do not travel. UT fans will be there, but Vandy fans will not have half of our numbers.
By the way, I join you in my hatred of all things gold and crud, err black.
Can't wait for Saturday!
Time off work, going down to Lexington to hang out for the weekend and watching as many tourney games as possible!!
I just figured out that your game times are all central time...
good I have time to go out for lunch. I really don’t care who wins just hope Florida loses.
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ok.....so it wasnt to Louisville......lol...but there is prediction #1 come true.....!!!!
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So Syracuse on a 2 game slide...
Is there any scenario that could play out where they could lose their one seed—such as Kansas St or West Virginia, maybe, winning their conference tourneys in convincing fashion? I would doubt it, just thinking aloud : )
by blue kentucky girl on Mar 11, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions
Nah, they will still be a 1.
The committee chair said in an interview last month that they would pretty much know who the 1 seeds are by the time the conference tournaments begin. They may become the lowest of the 1 seeds, but they will still get one. Heck they have less losses on the year than anyone but us and Kansas.
I think they will still be #1.
Losing to Georgetown isn’t exactly a bad loss. If WVU wins the tournament, it could make a difference, though.
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'Cuse is definite #1
But the loss helps UK secure the top 1 or 2 overall (and I doubt KU falls below the #1 overall, especially after winning the first Big 12 game). I think Duke, Kas St. or WV battle for the final #1.
Duke to the East of us,
Syracuse to the West, maybe we will be heading South for the NCAA.
Kansas polished off TTech didnt they??
I had to work for a little while!!!….lol
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How about that Western Michigan putting the 9 point beat down on Central Mich?
Well, they had it at the top of the ESPN scoreboard. I thought someone would care.
daggonit...had to resort to ESPN 350 to watch the Big East
not sure what is going with Insight here in lexington but the espn channels are on the fritz
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not sure who i want to win
I like the Gamecocks but I think we would have an easier time with the Tide
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Gamecocks
I really wanted to play them – I want to rectify this “split” situation.
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
I hate not being able to see the games! :(
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Damn
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Bama by 2 Downey on the FT line 18sec to go! Downey missed 1st
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bama by 4 with 7 secs
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I've watched two
tourney games so far and both have been upsets. Going to watch UT and LSU now and hope for more of the same. ; )
Yes please :)
I am almost routing for LSU to win the conference, if it wasn’t for that silly having to lose to them thing ;)
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I can't believe that stupid Gamecock turnover
in the last seconds. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I was wanting USC again too : ( Oh well, bring on Bama.
by blue kentucky girl on Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Go Tiggers!
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Vols
I want the Vols for the same reason I wanted the Gamecocks – none of this “we each won one” stuff. Give me best 2 out of 3!!!
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions
My 85 yr old uncle......calls just now....."Well crap, I was waiting to whip them boys from Carolina to shut em up!"
lol…..
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ME TOO!
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Woo hoo!
Found an audio feed!
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions
I tried that.
Cant get it to work.
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
are you using Internet Explorer??
I couldn’t get 360 to work either, till I had a brainstorm that you might have to use IE. Switched to that, and it worked perfectly.
by blue kentucky girl on Mar 11, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
probably just a work filter
my work blocks all video streaming
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Yep
Im using IE and it still said that my internet service provider wasnt compatible or something to that effect.
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
yeah,
I love Coach Cal and all, wouldn’t trade him for all the tea in China, but Wright is by far the best-dressed, most handsome coach in all of Div. 1 men’s basketball, IMO. ; )
Lol - gotta disagree with you there.
IMO, Cal is best looking hands-down. Unless, ofcourse, this DePaul situation turns out the way I am hearing it might… ;)
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I was just referring to
the “Gillispie to DePaul” rumors circulating since Tracy Webster is the interim coach there.
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
you are correct
I also think that Anthony Grant is rather well-dressed and handsome too. ‘Course, he’ll be all rumpled and sad-faced tomorrow ; )
by blue kentucky girl on Mar 11, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a scenario that gets UT to a #2 seed? They could easily get a #3 I think.
How about Vandy? Is a #2 possible? A #3?
No Video
Is this going to be the same deal when UK plays tomorrow???
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions
I could have sworn that WKYT was going to stream the game from their site, but you will want to double check that
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I cant wait for the Arkansas/Georgia game!
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by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 11, 2010 4:04 PM EST reply actions
Marquette/Villanova
coming up on an exciting finish too. Marquette ahead three with under a minute left. Pretty good day of basketball so far!
by blue kentucky girl on Mar 11, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions
AF vs NM
AF is 1-15 in their conference going against NM ranked 8th in the country and 14-2 in the confernce and AF is only down 3 with under 5 to play
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
watching the score on ESPN
now 60-70 with 1 min left
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/gamecast?gameId=300700167
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I just cant believe the SEC tournament games are not being televised here in Lexington
For whatever reason ESPN 360 is not working for me and I can’t find it anywhere else online. I could pay $114 and watch it on PPV but its not worth it. Anyone have any links to watch it online?
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not really....they showed Survivor and then went to the tourney once the show was over
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I
am not even getting the Kentucky game here tomorrow. Just found out……..I AM LIVID! What in the world………..what freakin city is showing it?

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