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A Tale Of Two Coaches


So, the football recruiting gala has ended and Kentucky Coach Joker Phillips has landed the Rivals ranked #49 class in the country, and new Louisville Coach Charlie Strong has landed the # 51 class. Not terribly bad for a couple of guys that didn't know they would be in these positions a couple of months ago, but nothing spectacular to speak of either, right? Well, the answer to that question may be a little more complicated than one might think.

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Charlie Strong brings an impressive recruiting resume to Cardinal football after his tenure in the Florida program. He was hired because he can bring in the "big gun" recruits that had UL knocking on the National Championship door a few years back. They got a taste of the good life under Bobby Petrino and they liked it. And to be honest, I was very impressed with UL's meteoric rise from being an also ran to being discussed in the top 5-10 programs in the country so quickly and convincingly. Alas, success is a fleeting thing in some areas, and unless you are an established powerhouse, the BCS and all of it's trappings does not offer much solace for a school when they cannot continue the climb. Enter Steve Kragthorpe, etc, etc, etc. So Louisville decided that Strong was the answer, and so far he seems to be re-energizing the fan base, pulling in some decent recruits, and making life palatable again for those in Cardinal Land.

Joker Phillips brings, well, Joker Phillips. Uk Alum, homegrown and trained, annointed by Coach Brooks as his successor, blue collar, low-key, roll up your sleeves no nonsense football coach, much like the manner of Coach Brooks himself. Joker is a very likeable, competent, and all-around good guy success story, as the second african-american head coach at the University of Kentucky. Is that significant, well, no not really, unless you are counting the fact that the Commonwealth's 2 biggest schools both now have african-american head coaches. When Tubby Smith arrived at UK to lead our beloved Wildcats in 1997, the inevitable head shaking and hand wringing began over the fact that he was the first african-american head coach at Kentucky. Bringing home that 7th National Championship cemented Tubby with a very large part of the fanbase (at least the part of the fanbase that has any sense). And he was able to forge what I consider to be one of the best working situations at a big time college program for a minority coach there was out there. There were always a few nut-job detractors, and yes, racist scum is included in that, that were not sure of Tubby's abilities, that claimed he only won with Pitino's players, etc, etc, etc. Well, I can honestly say that those days are over for the true fans of the Big Blue Nation, and now it seems for the University of Louisville.

There are still very few african-american head coaches in basketball or football at Division I-A schools. But the really great part of all of this for the Commonwealth, both the UK and UL fans alike, is that in the case of the hiring of both of these individuals, race was never an issue. Kentucky and Louisville didn't go out there looking for the best head african-american head coaches they could find, they went after the best head coaches they could find. Both Joker and Strong have excellent coaching pedigrees. They have both found success as assistants in programs that are both, and it makes me so proud to be able to say this, winning programs. They both have now brought in a decent recruiting class, and they are off and running to get ready for spring practice sessions. As the son of a man who was raised in the most backwards of areas in his childhood in the 40's and 50's, and who was taught by his father that 2 different classes of people existed in this country, who was taught by his father and so on, I truly can say I am proud of UK and UL, not just for hiring two coaches that bring a credit to their race, but also to their profession, and who I hope one day will finally be able to lay to rest the stigma that has been placed upon this Commonwealth. We should all be proud of who we have as our coaches, but Kentucky gets to take a step up in the eyes of the rest of the world of college sports now. Not one other state in the union can boast what we can, and I for one am tickled pink to see it.

* Editing Note: I had made menton of Strong being the first african-american head coach at UL, and that was dead wrong. I had completely forgotten Ron Cooper who was there from 1995-1997. My apologies to Coach Cooper.

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Grind it out football..

I concur with your views entirely, but I fear it’s only going to be the same old 3rd down and 6 yards to go and another running play to behold. I didn’t even like watching Alabama during the BCS championship game – run – run. I really did enjoy watching Boise State in their bowl game, what an exciting team. The most exciting BCS bowl game I’ve ever watched.

The only team we beat out in recruiting in the SEC was Vandy who was ranked at no. 61.
I for one would like to see something out of the norm for UK – a new spark, a new direction, a new commitment from the University. Yes I believe Joker at charge could lead the way if we had top-down commitment, like we do in basketball. But I’ll probably never live to see it.

Remember when C.M. Newton hired Mumme – that’s what I’m talking about – C.M. had guts.

Lets go after Mike Leach for O.C. and devil be dammed. We didn’t seem to care what the rest of the NCAA basketball world thought when we went after Calipari, so lets go for it.

Nick

by KansasUKCat on Feb 4, 2010 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

let's see what happens, but I would be willing to bet my next paycheck the Leach situation couldnt happen

for one thing because Kentucky is not going to bring him iinwhile there is a lawsuit out there against TexTech. But also because I dont think that Joker is ready to share the spotlight right now. I could be wrong on this, but I think he needs to see what he can do on his own before he brings in a hired gun…..but I will say this……Leach’s offense makes it a really tempting thought.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 4, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Mumme turned out great for UK. HA!

Why don’t we just let Joker decide who his assistant coaches are and see what happens. It should be obvious to everybody by now that he is sticking with Sanders as his OC unless he was waiting for recruiting to be over to make a move. Next year should tell the story on whether Joker can move us up on the recruiting board.

by Grasslands1 on Feb 4, 2010 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

I hope no one missed in your post

That supposedly “racist” Kentucky is the first state to have their 2 flagship schools led by African American Coaches. How appropriate in history month.

"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO

by ro307805 on Feb 4, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Actually, Kentucky, as a state, has three African-American head coaches for Div 1 football.

WKU hired Willie Taggert this year and seemed to have had a pretty decent recruiting haul (for them) as well.

by wklawdog on Feb 4, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet

personally I mentioned UK and Louisville as being the “flagship” schools, but WKU is an important program also.

"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO

by ro307805 on Feb 4, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

my apologies....I should have remembered Western......

Coach Taggert, please forgive me….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 4, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think as long

as we have to mention “African American” when describing an individual’s accomplishments we still have a long way to go before we lay racism to rest forever.

by kywineman on Feb 4, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I think you are probably right on that one Wineman, but at this point

it is the best way to bring attention to a situation that we here in Kentucky, have long stood as the poster children for, when in truth, we are leading the way in trying to correct it. And this is not in any way trying to take away from their accomplishments as coaches, their resumes would be impressive for any coach. This is more about the fact that there are plenty of qualified candidates out there that never get a chance to even interview, much less coach.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 5, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

wineman, you know I usually agree with you,

and, in the larger context of society as a whole, l do this time. But for a state and university that’s had the R tag hung on them, rightly or wrongly, for a long time, this is a big deal, IMO. I’ve watched the recent DVD about Rupp’s alleged racism several times and fail to see how any supposedly objective reporter could fail to use that as a primary research resource before alluding to the Baron as racist, yet we see those allusions still.

I walked into my doctor’s office to have some blood drawn the day we came out as #1 and saw a man wearing a UK baseball cap. Since I was on the way to the gym and had on my UK t-shirt (naturally!), I pulled up my sweatshirt and said, “nice hat.” We started talking UK basketball, and I remarked that it had been a long time coming to get back to #1. He said, “Yeah, Tubby inherited a good team from Pitino, but didn’t do much after that.” I reacted to that by asking what he thought about the 2003 team that went 32-4, swept the SEC, and entered the NCAA tournament rated #1. He just kinda grunted and went back to reading his magazine.

Frankly, it pissed me off, mainly because I might be lumped with him in somebody else’s mind. In response to ABC, I’d say, “those days are over” for TRUE fans, but not for some others. My family history is the same as ABC’s, but times, and people, change. Why someone would be able to rationalize cheering for an African-American player but not be able to support Tubby because of his color is way beyond my comprehension.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Feb 5, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm tired of hearing Yankee Liberals talk about Rupp Racism

What people outside of Kentucky never have understood was that if UK did not provide opportunities for in-state players,who would? Was he supposed to run out on the people right here at home who as we know,truly need any opportunity they can get; or send that opportunity to NYC? You could say that UK has failed to provide those opporttunities now, but the massive revenue actually pays for far more academic benefits than a single Basketball team could provide. To place the trust and hopes of the whole Commonwealth on these gentleman to continue to pad that revenue stream is proof that we have moved on.

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Feb 5, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There was something else there too ro

for all of his control over the UK basketball program, Rupp still had to answer to the higher ups at UK. Like every other southern school, we had racist people in the heiarchy of the university. There was no way that Rupp kept his job if he integrated that team any sooner than he did. The powers that be would have never stood for it, AND the schools that UK played were ALL high risk areas for african-americans to be in. Now that may still be viewed as racist to some, for not standing up for what was right, and that I cannot argue, but I have said this time and time again, Rupp would have signed an opera singer if they could put the ball in the basket. He would get anyone that could help him win regardless of color, but he also would not put those young men at risk, and if that meant he was labeled, then I honestly believe that was better to him than what could have happened.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 5, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

At the time

when Tubby won the National Championship it seemed as though he inherited Pitino’s squad, but many people forget, that he had to get those boys there and that they couldn’t do it without a great basketball mind adjusting to opponents play during all those big-time March games. It takes a great coach to even have the nerve that March calls for win a game is on the line.

I cried myself to sleep (literally), pounding my pillow the night Laettner made me hate Duke. I would still love to punch Laettner in the face!

by ukcat1982 on Feb 5, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Tubby had a streak of in-game play calling

That was unmatched for several years,IMHO. I loved the ball line defense, and thought the 2000-2003 teams were some of the best defensive teams I ever saw.

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Feb 5, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why I rate him as UK's best

game coach in my personal list of bests.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Feb 6, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saying,

I see character, not color, gender, sexual orientation, religious belief or nation of origin. Tubby was an excellent coach and had nothing to do with race. Why can’t we all just get along?

by kywineman on Feb 5, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand, and I agree with you.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Feb 5, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you too...

It’s intelligent people like us that have to be proponents of open-mindedness instead of “close-minded upbringing.” Growing up in Shepherdsville, KY, I saw plenty of the latter as I’m sure many of you have.

I use to love Happy Meals, now I love sushi, but I will always love Kentucky!

by ukcat1982 on Feb 6, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I

am open minded because I grew up in Shively where anything goes.

by kywineman on Feb 6, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice post Blucat

I like your sentiments and look forward to seeing these two coaches face off for the first time in the fall. Go Cats!

And can we put this whole Mike Leach thing to rest… I don’t want to be the parent who tells his kid that Santa isn’t real but he’s not coming, he never was coming, he wouldn’t even if we wanted him to. Sorry

the more I see the less I know for sure

by BlueShoes on Feb 4, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

hehehe.....no one will ever stop offering their "suggestions"

to improve Kentucky athletics……lol……how do you think we got Coach Cal anyway???…..lol

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 4, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post ABC!!

I remarked on the exact same thing….on someone elses thread when UofL hired Strong. Noting that Kentucky seems to be perceived as a backward racist state and here we have 3 black coaches at the major f-ball programs in the state…..apparently great minds think alike!!!;-)

Also since I believe I was the first one to post a suggestion that Joker hire Leach…let me just say that if nothing else it’s nice to know things you write are at least read!!

You can't fix "stupid"!

by UKlvrJM on Feb 4, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

You are correct sir!!

but I’m not sure many UofL fans would agree that he was a football coach!!’-)

You can't fix "stupid"!

by UKlvrJM on Feb 4, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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