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DeMarcus Cousins: A Singular Man Among (Big) Men

"The downside for Cousins as he transitions to Lexington, is many recruiting evaluators have pointed to his lack of consistent dominance and his propensity for loafing as the game went on, as an example of a player who wasn't focused, had motivation problems, and wasn't playing to his potential."

From the Maple Street Press 2009-2010 Wildcat Tip-Off Annual

DeMarcus Cousins, to the Lexington Herald-Leader, on if he played lazy in high school:

"It really depended on the team (the opponent).  When I played high-profile players, I came to play.  If I was playing against a 'rooty-poop,' I was going along with the motions."

Perhaps no Kentucky player in recent memory has come as far, in such a short period of time, than UK's big man in the middle, DeMarcus Cousins.  Coming out of high school, Cousins wore the much deserved badge of complacency, bordering on uncoachable.  But, from the very beginning of his career in Lexington, Cousins, at least outwardly, has shown himself to be open to coaching, and making himself the best possible player his talents will allow him to be.  Cousins has come so far in both attitude and effort from his high school days, that UK coach John Calipari, when recently speaking of Cousins, said that people who have known the Alabama native for many years think "he isn't the same guy" .... it's as if aliens from some far away galaxy have taken over his body, rendering him a lovable, 6-11, 260 pound teddy bear. 

On the hardwood, the credit for the turnaround in Cousins' effort in practice and games should be given to Calipari, and assistant coach John Robic, who has become something of a mentor to UK's diaper dandy, but ultimately the credit goes to Cousins himself.  For no amount of coaxing, coaching, or yelling and screaming can make a player change so thoroughly, if the player doesn't desire to change. 

Star-divide

Happily, for both player and Big Blue faithful, the evolution of DeMarcus Cousins has brought with it some rather lucrative on-court results.  Cousins is not merely another in a long line of beastly UK big men, no, the rapid improvement in attitude and effort has propelled him to heights rarely seen in the Bluegrass.  Even at Kentucky, where excellence is demanded and generally received, Cousins is seeking to rewrite the record books in permanent ink.  And when his too short stay as a 'Cat is complete, Cousins will cash in the check he's been writing since November of 2009.

How Good Is Cousins?

So just how good is Cousins, when compared to the other great big men (in their initial year of varsity eligibility), who famously dot the Kentucky basketball landscape?  Well, we're going to find out. 

Using minutes played (when available) as the yardstick, let's compare points scored per minutes played, rebounds grabbed per minutes played, and percentage of team's scoring.  Prior to 1962 there are no records for minutes played, and prior to 1950 there are no rebounding records.

Included in this study are players throughout UK history who played near the basket as primarily centers.  Most players are in the 6-8 to 7-0 range, but some players from the earliest eras of UK basketball played the center spot, although they stood only 6-4 or 6-5.  I've also included the pertinent career numbers for each performer, and any All-America or All-SEC accolades bestowed upon the player.

We'll start with Cousins' freshman performance, and continue the examination from the latest performers to the oldest, beginning with a look at how the players performed in their initial year in a UK uniform:

DeMarcus Cousins: 6-11, 260 lbs (2010) -- 521 minutes played in 24 games; 393 points, 243 rebounds = .754 points per minute, .466 rebounds per minute.  Team points = 1,959; Cousins has scored 20.1% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,016; Cousins has corralled 23.9% of team's rebounds.  Freshman Season Averages: 16.4 points per game, 10.1 rebounds per game.

Melvin Turpin: 6-11, 240 lbs (1981) -- 380 minutes played in 28 games; 131 points, 106 rebounds = .345 ppm, .279 rpm.  Team points = 2,040; Turpin scored 6.4% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 995; Turpin corralled 10.7% of team's rebounds.  Freshman Season Averages: 4.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg.  Turpin Career ('81-'84): In 3,327 minutes played in 123 games, Turpin scored 1,509 points and grabbed 730 rebounds = .454 ppm, .219 rpm.  Career Averages (four years): 12.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg.  Turpin was an All-America in both 1983 and 1984.

Sam Bowie: 7-1, 230 lbs (1980) -- 886 minutes played in 34 games; 440 points, 276 rebounds = .497 ppm, .312 rpm.  Team points = 2,685; Bowie scored 16.4% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,265; Bowie corralled 21.8% of team's rebounds.  Freshman Season Averages: 12.9 ppg, 8.1 rpg.  Bowie Career ('80-'81, '84): In 2,761 minutes played in 96 games, Bowie scored 1,285 points and grabbed 843 rebounds = .465 ppm, .305 rpm.  Career Averages (three years): 13.4 ppg, 8.8 rpg.  Bowie was an All-America in 1981 and 1984.

Rick Robey: 6-10, 235 lbs (1975) -- 616 minutes played in 31 games; 321 points, 214 rebounds = .521 ppm, .347 rpm.  Team points = 2,858; Robey scored 11.2% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,442; Robey corralled 14.8% of team's rebounds.  Freshman Season Averages: 10.4 ppg, 6.9 rpg.  Robey Career ('75-'78): In 2,711 minutes played in 105 games, Robey scored 1,395 points and grabbed 838 rebounds = .515 ppm, .309 rpm.  Career Averages (four years): 13.3 ppg, 7.9 rpg.  Robey was an All-America in 1977 and 1978. 

Mike Phillips: 6-10, 235 lbs (1975) -- 442 minutes played in 31 games; 242 points, 136 rebounds = .548 ppg, .308 rpm.  Team points = 2,858; Phillips scored 8.5% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,442; Phillips corralled 9.4% of team's rebounds.  Freshman Season Averages: 7.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg.  Phillips Career ('75-'78): In 2,518 minutes played in 120 games, Phillips scored 1,367 points and grabbed 755 rebounds = .543 ppm, .299 rpm.  Career Averages (four years): 11.4 ppg, 6.3 rpg.  Phillips was All-SEC in 1976, 1977, and 1978.

Jim Andrews: 6-11, 235 lbs (1971) -- 306 minutes played in 24 games; 156 points, 120 rebounds = .510 ppm, .392 rpm.  Team points = 2,670; Andrew scored 5.8% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,340; Andrews corralled 8.9% of team's rebounds.  Sophomore Season Averages: 6.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg.  Andrews Career ('71-'73): In 2,259 minutes played in 80 games, Andrews scored 1,320 points and grabbed 783 rebounds = .584 ppm, .347 rpm.  Career Averages (three years): 16.5 ppg, 9.8 rpg.  Andrews was First Team All-SEC in 1972 and 1973.  

Tom Payne: 7-2, 235 lbs (1971) -- 816 minutes played in 28 games; 473 points, 283 rebounds = .579 ppm, .347 rpm.  Team points = 2,670; Payne scored 17.7% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,340; Payne corralled 21.1% of team's rebounds.  Sophomore Season Averages: 16.9 ppg, 10.1 rpg.  Payne only played one season at UK before declaring for the NBA Draft.  Payne was First Team All-SEC in 1971.

Dan Issel: 6-8, 240 lbs (1968) -- 836 minutes played in 27 games; 444 points, 328 rebounds = .531 ppm, .392 rpm.  Team points = 2,400; Issel scored 18.5% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,333; Issel corralled 24.6% of team's rebounds.  Sophomore Season Averages: 16.4 ppg, 12.1 rpg.  Issel Career ('68-'70): In 2,943 minutes played in 83 games, Issel scored 2,138 points and grabbed 1,078 rebounds = .726 ppm, .366 rpm.  Career Averages (three years): 25.8 ppg, 12.9 rpg.  Issel was an All-America in 1969 and 1970.

Cotton Nash: 6-5, 220 lbs (1962) -- No minutes played record for sophomore season.  Nash scored 608 points and grabbed 345 rebounds in 26 games in his sophomore year = 23.4 ppg, 13.3 rpg.  In Nash's final two years, he played a combined 1,964 minutes in 52 games, scoring 1,162 points and snagging 617 rebounds = .592 ppm, .314 rpm.  Nash's career ('62-'64): 22.7 ppg, 12.3 rpg.  Nash was an All-America in 1962, 1963, and 1964.

No minutes played record for any of the following players, and no rebounding records prior to 1950.

Bob Burrow: 6-7, 215 lbs (1955) Burrow was a JUCO transfer, arriving at UK with two years of eligibility remaining -- Burrow played in 26 games in his first year with the 'Cats, scoring 495 points and corralling 459 rebounds = 19.0 ppg, 17.7 rpg.  Team points = 1,987; Burrow scored 24.9% of team's points.  Team rebounds = 1,680; Burrow snagged 27.3% of team's rebounds.  Burrow Career ('55-'56): In 51 games, Burrow scored 1,023 points and grabbed 823 rebounds = 20.1 ppg, 16.1 rpg.  Burrow was an All-America in 1955 and 1956.

Bill Spivey: 7-0, 230 lbs (1950) In 30 games played in his sophomore year, Spivey scored 578 points = 19.3 ppg.  Team points = 2,089; Spivey scored 27.7% of team's points.  For his career, Spivey played in 63 games, scoring 1,213 points = 19.3 ppg.  Spivey was an All-America in 1950 and 1951.  His senior season, which would have been the 1952 season, Spivey sat out nearly half the season following knee surgery, and the remaining portion of the year due to an upcoming NCAA investigation.

Alex Groza: 6-7, 220 lbs (1947 -- Groza was drafted into the Army in 1944, thus, he only played in 10 games his freshman year.  He returned to UK for the 1947 season) In 37 games played in his sophomore year, Groza scored 393 points = 10.6 ppg.  Team points = 2,536; Groza scored 15.5% of team's points.  Groza Career ('45, '47-'49): In 120 games, Groza scored 1,744 points = 14.5 ppg.  Groza was an All-America in 1947, 1948, and 1949. 

Bob Brannum: 6-5, 205 lbs (Brannum played his freshman year at UK - 1944 - and then spent two years in the Army.  He returned to UK for the 1947 season, then transferred to Michigan State)  In his Freshman year, Brannum scored 254 points in 21 games = 12.1 ppg.  Team points = 1,095; Brannum scored 23.2% of team's points.  Brannum Career ('44, '47): In 50 games, Brannum scored 379 points = 7.6 ppg.  Brannum was an All-America in 1944.

Leroy Edwards: 6-4, 215 lbs (1935)  In his sophomore season, Edwards scored 343 points in 21 games = 16.3 ppg.  Team points = 985; Edwards scored 34.8% of team's points.  Edwards only played one year at UK, opting to play professional basketball instead of returning for his final two years.  Edwards was an All-America in 1935.

John DeMoisey: 6-4 (no weight listed) (1932)  DeMoisey had to sit out a portion of his sophomore year due to academics: In 12 games played, DeMoisey scored 142 points = 11.8 ppg.  Team points = 1,126; DeMoisey scored 25.7% of team's points.  DeMoisey Career ('32-'34): In 53 games, DeMoisey scored 640 points = 12.1 ppg.  DeMoisey was an All-America in 1934.

Forest Sale: 6-4 (no weight listed) (1931) In his sophomore year, Sale played in only nine games, scoring 62 points = 6.9 ppg.  Sale Career ('31-'33): In 50 games, Sale scored 627 points = 12.5 ppg.  Sale was an All-America in 1932 and 1933. 

Statistics gathered from Jon Scott's UK basketball database, or the University of Kentucky Basketball Media Guide.

No player listed, in his first year as a 'Cat, comes within a long mile of matching Cousins' freshman production.  His .754 points per minute mark is tucked safely away from Tom Payne's next best effort of .579 points per minute played.  Cousins' .466 rebounds per minute played is similarly safe; Dan Issel places a distant second with .392 rebounds per minute in his sophomore year.  Of course Issel's career points per minute record of .726 is almost unbelievable.  For a player to score at that pace over an entire career, is quite an achievement, regardless of when it occurred.

** In his sophomore season ('62), Cotton Nash averaged over 23 points per game, but as stated above, there are no minutes played records prior to 1963.  But, he averaged 37.7 combined minutes per game for his junior and senior seasons.  If one uses that figure, 37.7 minutes per game, and plugs it into Nash's sophomore year, he averages .620 points per minute, which would be close to Cousins' .754.

Cousins is closing in on the following UK freshman records: Most points -- Cousins, with 393 points (16.4 points per game), is currently second to the 464 points Rex Chapman (16.0 ppg) scored in 1987 (71 points behind) ... Most rebounds -- Cousins with 242 rebounds (10.1 rebounds per game) is 35 behind Chris Mills mark of 277 (8.7 rpg) set in 1989 ... Most blocks -- Cousins has 44 blocks (1.8 per game) which is 35 behind Jamal Magloire's 79 blocks (1.9 bpg) set in 1997 ... Most free throw attempts -- Dwight Anderson had 181 in 1979 (6.2 per game), Cousins is only 13 back, with 168 free throw attempts (7.0 per game).  

All the attention, all the accolades that are coming Cousins' way, are well-deserved.  The young man has shown himself to be a quick read in the ways and means of playing winning college basketball.  When before, he wouldn't have cracked the book.  It's nice to see his hard work and altered outlook manifest itself in such a public venue, allowing us all to be entertained and awed by the player we see. 

Thanks for reading, and Go 'Cats!

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How times have changed

I remember Dinner Bell Mel as the largest human being to walk the earth – yet DeMarcus is 20 pounds heavier.

Nice article, Ken.

It's time. . .

by NYCCats on Feb 11, 2010 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks, NYCCats

Turpin was a big, big man, that’s for sure. I blame Tolly Ho for him ballooning to an “unplayable” weight a few years into his pro career.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets hope Big Cuz don't find "Louden Square Buffett"

or he will get in the same shape as Mel.

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Feb 11, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw-

Big Mel play in the 1984 Southeastern Conference Tournament in Nashville. He went up against a couple of great players in Charles Barkley and Bobby Lee Hurt from Auburn and Alabama. He didn’t back down from either one. He understood his job and performed extremely well. When Kenny Walker’s shot beat Auburn for the title, Barkley was named tourney MVP. I remember all of us UK fans chanting Melvin, Melvin!!! His smile was priceless!

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Feb 11, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a great performance

I rank that with the 44 he put up against UT while Bowie was hurt. In an earlier post I proffered Mr. Turpin as the one UK center to root Cousins off the block.

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Feb 12, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Turpin knew how to use his, uh, leverage:)

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

BSC is gonna want to kiss you.....lol.......

I argue about stats not telling the whole picture all the time, and in this case, you make the perfect point Ken about Cousins. The biggest thing he has accomplished is turning around his approach and attitude since coming to Lexington. It’s just that in his case the stats are so overbearing you cant ignore them nor fathom them. I have heard the stories about Cotton Nash, Bill Spivey, and others. Saw Robey, Phillips, Bowie, Turpin and Andrew, and Issel play. And I am completely willing to admit that Issel may have been a more complete player before he left Kentucky, but Issel was no better as a Freshman. Now some of that may have had to do with how Coach Rupp’s game plans were laid out, and even more to do with the fact of how Cal’s are laid out, but I believe that you could put Cousins in any system, anywhere, and you would still get the results we are seeing. Take away the stormtroopers in the striped shirts and their quest to dissect his every move and he is even better. When the NBA gives him that 6th foul, someone’s gonna get a whole other gear. The hustle, determination and sheer willpower of this kid and his desire to play make everything he does on the court that much more fun to watch.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 11, 2010 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

No, no kisses for Ken today. : )

I don’t really go around kissing strange random boys. Well, you know, unless those strange random boys happen to be freakishly tall, incredibly adorable and uber talented like the subject of this piece, of course. ; )

But, I definitely recommended this feature piece earlier today because I thought it was superb. Just lovely, Ken. Thanks.

It’s great to see DeMarcus stack up so well compared to UK players of years gone by as Ken has done in the main piece, and I also think it’s great to see him shine compared to a few players outside of UK as JLev and chicagoblues have done in the comments. Just fabulous.

DeMarcus is so awesome, and if there was any doubt in anyone’s mind before this read and the comments that followed about his out-of-this-world talent, well, there shouldn’t be now.

by BigSkyCat on Feb 11, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I am going to have to go take a shower now and get all this syrupy sweet stuff off of me.....lol

All I can say for the young man is that if he has any interest in older women your husband better buy a really big gun….lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 11, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks BSC, I'm glad you liked the piece.

Yeah, anybody who doesn’t give Cousins credit for being fabulous …

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I racked my brain

and I can’t remember another player using the term rooty-poop.

I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

by UKCat on Feb 11, 2010 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

I agree that big Cuz is putting on a heckuva show

It has been great fun to watch him grow up this year and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get picked in the top 5 during the next draft. I hope his new attitude is carried over to the next level – he has the size and skills. If his attitude is right in the NBA, he has the potential to be one of the top players ever. Coach Calipari asked us all earlier this year to “enjoy the ride”, and it has been a great ride thus far and this young man’s progression has been a large part of the reason why it is so fun right now. The upcoming last haul of conference play will test the resiliency of this young team, it’ll continue to be fun watching and cheering them.

by sweasyf on Feb 11, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Broaden your search Ken

I think you have to even go beyond UK stats to compare Cousin’s CV. The only guy I can think of who would be like comparing apples and apples would be Chris Webber. Both were major contributers on very young and talented teams. While Juwan Howard was Michigan’s center, Webber was getting a lot of work done in the paint too.

I did this quickly, so don’t jump on me too hard if my stats aren’t exact. Webber’s freshman year he played 1085 minutes in 34 games, got 340 rebounds and scored 528 points. That translates into 10 rebounds and 15.53 points a game. That’s a rate of .313 rebounds per minute and .486 points a minute. To me, that makes DeMarcus’ stats out of this world. Chris Webber’s a Hall of Fame caliber player!

The only other players I could think of who might compare favorably are Bob Lanier and Bob McAdoo, but I couldn’t find their freshman stats. Maybe Shaq would be an interesting comparison.

by chicagoblues on Feb 11, 2010 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Can't compare them

Wilt and Alcindor were in the days when freshmen didn’t play varsity ball.

by chicagoblues on Feb 11, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

So, there's your follow-up, Ken!

I myself would love to see a comparison to Alcindor et. al.

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by SD_UK_FAN on Feb 11, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps an end-of-the-year piece

But, without having researched the numbers of the non-UK big man greats, I have a hard time believing more than just a few could compare to his efficiency.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

DeMarcus Cousins

I believe the teachers, coaches, referees and other players complained to and about Cousins in high school and he returned the favor. Here at Kentucky, we admire him, love him and recognize his skill. To me, this has made a tremendous difference to him. But, what do I know?

by oldkentucky on Feb 11, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Very perceptive.

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by SD_UK_FAN on Feb 11, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Great read Ken

A recommend from me. Ain’t he pretty?!?!?
I don’t think I could have survived this colder than normal, snowier than normal winter without them. Well, I’m sure I would have, but, they sure makes things seem more tropical. :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Feb 11, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Good Read for Cuz...

Cuz admitted that he follows UK sites after the USC game where there was unkind comments from fringe UK “fans” about our 1 loss so far.

Normally sound advise to players is to focus on practice and games but….the data in this post is pretty amazing for Cuz. along with the stats for other UK big men like big Dan. No doubt Cuz has put in his time at practice. Daniel Orton to practice and compete against
has been valuable.

Nice read…well done.

by blue oregon on Feb 11, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

thanks blue o

The disparity in Cousins’ numbers and the others is quite startling, indeed.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Statistical freak, that's what he is

I compared Cousin’s freshman stats to Shaq. Shaq played 901 minutes in 32 games, got 385 rebounds and made 445 points. That gave him 12 rebounds per game and 13.9 points per game. He averaged .43 rebounds per minute and .493 points per minute. It ain’t bad when your stats stack up to Shaq’s. I also tried Patrick Ewing and it wasn’t even close. When he grows up I think I’d like to be the Big Cuz’s agent.

by chicagoblues on Feb 11, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Good Job Ken

As usual. I agree with ABC, you sure made BSC,s day.

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat70 on Feb 11, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Working hard or hardly working?

Come on, don’t look at me like that – all of you were thinking the same thing!

Following up on chicagoblues’ (“chicagoblues’s”? what’s the rule for singular possessive when the name ends in ‘s’?) idea of comparing Cousins to other players in other programs, I was interested in how he compared to the “hardest working player in college basketball in the history of the world of people who work hard at things they do” – Tyler Hansbrough

Hansbrough played 942 minutes his freshman year in 31 games and scored 587 points and grabbed 243 rebounds. That’s 18.9 ppg and 7.7 rpg or 0.623 ppm and 0.258 rpm – so yeah, Cousins beats him pretty strongly in those rates.

Great piece Ken, really helps put what Cousins is doing in perspective and makes it all the more remarkable.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Feb 11, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks JLev

Hansbrough’s numbers, quite frankly, surprise me. I know he was porductive, but that .623 ppm number is pretty strong, especially for a freshman playng in hte usually strong ACC.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Feb 11, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

A friend of mine from Atlanta

Has referred to the Gators as those “rooty poo poot” !@@#$% for years. At any rate in this case, any time the word “poop” is used, it instantly becomes exciting and new

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Feb 11, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah!

Funny stuff. Surely Knight is only making that statement in spite of his distaste for the blue and white. Cousins is quite effective, and quite frankly, I’d love to see a comparison between him and Aldridge—similar to what Howlett has done with this post.

Especially this season, I think Cousins stats would eat Aldridge’s for breakfast. :)

by pinata89 on Feb 11, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Forget the freakin'

comparison, I want to see them go head to head.

by kywineman on Feb 11, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

that is so he can go back to Kansas if Gameday goes.....lol

he didnt have a lot of luck with Lexington

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by ALLBLUCAT on Feb 11, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ken, great, great piece.

As I looked at the respective numbers, I found myself thinking about the different “systems” in which these guys operated and what kind of talent they had surrounding, or supporting, them.

Coach Rupp, for most of the time had a “second guard” offense in which the postman picked, passed, and rebounded, but was not the primary scoring option. Thus the relatively low “%of team points” some of these guys had. Later on, particularly with Issel and Payne, the offense became more center-centric. That fact, in addition to the raw numbers, makes Demarcus Cousins’ stats even more impressive. As Coach Cal said, he’s a beast. In my memory, I haven’t seen a man that big that had reflexes that quick and hands that soft in one package.

As I looked at the highlights of Dan Issel’s career, it brought back memories of just how good he was, and how well he shot from outside. Dan was very, very good, but, except for his outside shot, probably wasn’t as good as Cuz. His quickness was adequate, and he was smart, often using the basket as a shield by making backside layups, but his strength and overall paint play probably weren’t as good as DCuz’.

I did not see most of the rest of these great Wildcats in person, so I can’t make a judgment on Burrow, Spivey, etc, but of the ones I’ve seen, Cuz is the best first-year man.

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by oldcat'69 on Feb 11, 2010 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, yeah, Ken,

thanks for including the "%of team points " numbers.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Feb 11, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad you liked it oldcat

Yeah, there are so many variables to take into consideration when looking at these numbers.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Issel versus Cuz ... do we need an asterisk??

I think your oberservations were spot on OldCat … Issel had the outside shot. That was because he couldn’t dunk. Not that he couldn’t dunk but by rule he COULDN’T dunk. Issel played at UK from 66-70 and the NCAA banned the dunk in 67 (reinstated it in ’76). This forced the big men to develop a jump shot and be creative around the rim to score. Demarcus has a power game and gets alot of dunks (which I really enjoy). At his size, he has the advantage over most. So the comparison with Issel, IMO anyway, needs an asterisk or clariification. How many points do you think Big Dan would have scored if he could have thrown some of those shots down like Cuz???

by ukcris on Feb 11, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really needed.

Every player has to adapt to both his skills and the rules he plays under. They use that to the best of their abilities, hopefully, and I think the point here is that DeMarcus is maximizing his abilities, exactly as Big Dan did.

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by SD_UK_FAN on Feb 11, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Said It Once And ...

I’ll say it again: Barring injury or other unforeseen misadventures DeMarcus Cousins will the dominant 5 in the NBA this decade.

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by Wild Weasel on Feb 11, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

My lord!

I had an idea, but I didn’t have a good enough idea, what a monster Cousins is. As I said in my fanpost, if he were to stick around, he’d be a legend at UK. Hell, he might end up a legend even if he leaves!

PS. Thank you for including Tom Payne, an individual whom I think did a lot for UK and suffered a great deal of nastiness that was wholly unnecessary. That doesn’t excuse anything he has done, but it certainly needs to be acknowledged and he needs to hear “Thanks” from the fans who remember the trail he blazed at Lexington.

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by SD_UK_FAN on Feb 11, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Payne

Truly a tragic UK figure, and although he had his problems, he’s not given enough credit for the incredible year he had with the ’Cats. And being the first black player in UK bb history … that in itself deserves notice and recognition.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

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