Kentucky Basketball: Renewing The Notre Dame Rivalry
Tonight, the Kentucky Wildcats take on the Notre Dame Fighting Irish in my home town of Louisville at the former home of the Louisville Cardinals (and now Rupp Arena West), Freedom Hall. Of course, yours truly and the missus will be at the event enjoying the evening. For that reason, Ken will be doing the postmortem tonight.
Those of us who have been around a few years (some may read as "old") remember the day when there was a genuine rivalry between Kentucky and Notre Dame. For those of you who don't remember that rivalry, I'd like to refresh your memory by referring you here and here. Those two links are to Jon Scott's site, BigBlueHistory.net, which have not just one but two rivalry pages about Notre Dame.
Let's take a look at how these two teams compare, record wise, this year:
| Rank and Records | ND | UK |
| RPI | #38 | #11 |
| Strength of Schedule | #225 | #4 |
| Overall | 8-0 | 5-2 |
| Conference | 0-0 | 0-0 |
| Home | 6-0 | 3-0 |
| Away | 0-0 | 0-1 |
| Top 25 | 0-0 | 1-0 |
| RPI Top 50 | 1-0 | 0-2 |
Kentucky, so far, has played a much, much tougher schedule including more games away from home. But the Irish have defeated their only RPI top 50 opponent, while Kentucky has lost 2 of their three games versus the RPI top 50, but does have one big win versus the highly ranked Washington Huskies.
Moving on to roster changes, let's see what has happened to the Notre Dame roster between last year and this:
| Major losses | ||||
| Luke Harangody | 6-8 | 246 | Senior | Major loss |
| Tory Jackson | 5-11 | 195 | Senior | Major loss |
| Jonathan Peoples | 6-3 | 207 | Senior | Major reserve loss |
Of course, we all are aware of the loss of Luke Harangody, who led the Irish in scoring and rebounding for a couple of years, but also notable is Tory Jackson, who was the straw that stirred the Irish cocktail last year, dishing out over 5 assists per game.
| New Players | ||||
| Alex Dragicevich | 6-8 | 215 | Freshman | New |
| Eric Atkins | 6-2 | 173 | Freshman | New, impact freshman |
| Jerian Grant | 6-5 | 185 | Freshman | New |
Not much to say here. Eric Atkins was a Rivals.com 4* recruit out of high school and is playing major reserve minutes in his first year, even starting one game.
Unlike Kentucky, Notre Dame's roster is chock full of juniors and seniors, and that fact will matter against Kentucky. The Irish are not as talented, but they are vastly more experienced and every single one of these players with the exception of the freshmen have been playing in coach Mike Brey's system for years.
The Four Factors to Winning
The Four Factors for this game look like this:
As you can see, this chart favors Notre Dame, slightly. They get to the line more often and rebound the ball offensively better than Kentucky, at least when we consider the numbers strictly. Kentucky shoots a little better and both teams take good care of the ball
What this chart does not tell you is that ND has done all it's damage versus weak teams. The toughest team Notre Dame has played was the Wisconsin Badgers on a neutral floor, and they won that low-scoring affair 58-51. Notre Dame did also beat a pretty good Georgia Bulldogs team on a neutral court in overtime, so if you want a pretty good idea of where this team is, look at that particular game. That game was a foul fest heavily in favor of the Fighting Irish, just like the UNC-Kentucky game was. The Dawgs' athleticism forced the Irish into 20% turnovers, an uncharacteristically high number for the normally circumspect Irish.
Overall Game Analysis
This game pits solid, mature Division I players against NBA-talented freshmen, something Kentucky will see a lot this year. Mike Brey's squad is a solid offensive club with mostly the same strengths and weaknesses as Kentucky, except that UK is stronger defensively.
But one thing they do a lot better than Kentucky is get to the line and shoot free throws. As we all know by now, that is the most efficient way to score in basketball, and Kentucky must find a way to minimize the impact of that statistic, either by getting a high percentage of offensive rebounds, or shooting a very high eFG%.
One of the things we have seen so far this year from John Calipari is that he is not pressuring as much on defense as he did last year, and consequently, UK is not producing turnovers at a very high rate. Notre Dame does not really pressure much on defense, being more of a club that tries to beat you with offensive efficiency.
It will be instructive to see if Calipari tries to attack Notre Dame's ballhandling like Georgia did. It didn't quite work out for Georgia, and with Kentucky's thin bench, I don't think I'd bet on that approach.
Overall, Kentucky will have to win this basketball game by doing what it has done all season -- taking care of the ball, doing a good job on the offensive glass, and hitting shots. Kentucky is an improving defensive club, and if they continue to improve, it will mean good things versus the Irish.
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Hungry
I think after a close dissappointing loss to North Carolina Kentucky will be very hungry for a win and will have the crowd behind them. I predict a wider margin of victory than expected for UK in the 15 to 20 point range. The fact that Notre Dames team has more upperclassmen is something UK will see all season and if we can’t compete with upperclassmen then we are in for a long season.
I certianly hope UK is ready to play tonight.
Looking forward to beating Notre Dame.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Little green guys with beards......grrrrrr
The Irish in me just cannot make it’s way to the surface…….grind the little buggers into the floor!!!
I am now and forever shall be The Cat In The Hat....The Artist formerly known as ABC!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Dec 8, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions
Enjoy the game Glenn
If anyone should have the ASoB sign, it would be you!
We will be watching. ’-)
Make sure ND doesn’t buy pizza for all their fans this time. ’-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Glenn
I’m going as well. You’ll notice me ill be the guy wearing all the kentucky stuff. LOL.
by phatcatfan on Dec 8, 2010 1:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Already On Expedia
Booking flight to Big Apple next year, perhaps a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to watch a UK (my alma mammy) vs KU (my son’s school) game with him in MSG (he lives just a few blocks away): priceless.
"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776
by Wild Weasel on Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tipping off 30 minutes later is
Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins hosting John Wall.
My broadband is going to have to be wide open for some serious streaming…
Predictions:
- UK by 7 over ND (hot shooting night for all of the guards)
- Wall: 19-pts, 11-asts, 3-tos, 3-stls, 1-blk
- Cousins: 19-pts, 1-ast, 7-rb, 0-blcks, 5-fouls
- Kings in a major funk, but Wizards still find a way to lose on the heels of a decent game against the Lakers . Kings by 3.
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-- Tim
Those were the days
when UK, UL, IU and ND all had it going. Hall, Crum, Knight, Digger. Center of the basketball universe before it moved to the Triangle (with Jimmy V gone, is it now just the the Hypotenuse?). Good times.
I have no doubt Crean will get the Crean and Crimson back into the conversation. Cal is holding up UK’s end of the bargain. Pitino is holding up UL’s end, and maybe someone else’s on the side. But I don’t see Mike Brey doing any better for the Irish. Oh well. We could always adopt Ohio State and start a Trapezoid.
I attended every game
of the Big Four Classic in Indy. Those were great games: UK, IU, UL, ND.
This certainly used to be a great series.
My dad took me to a couple of these games during the 60s. If I recall, ND finally dropped because they never got a home game out of it.
Beat them for the Digger's sake
Ranking ex-coaches/announcers that hate UK with a passion:
- Bobby (if rape is inevitable, a woman should just lie back and enjoy it) Knight
- Digger Phelps – his ND record against UK is a lowly 4-12 and he hated playing on the ‘netural court’ at Freedom Hall. I never could understand that.
Nick
Cats' Interior Defense
Is vital to victory: Irish inside guys have excellent inside moves ala Harrangody. Must defend without excessive fouls.
"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776
by Wild Weasel on Dec 8, 2010 5:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I saw my first game
in Freedom Hall in 1957. It was the Kentucky High School tournament “The Sweet Sixteen” It was the first held in Louisville. Never saw such a huge building at that time. We parked the car for the duration of the tournament (4) days, and rode the bus. Just four of us senior boys from Paducah out in the big city.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
Old
We used to get state tourney tickets from our high school. Would travel to Louisville, stay 14 to a room for 4, and motor on over to Freedom Hall. It was a massive place to me. My seat was usually so far up in the end zone, I had to guess who the players were.
jdog
I saw all 4 state tournaments while in high school. "54,55,and 56 in Lexington and ‘57 in Freedom Hall. Lots of memories. I saw “king Kelly Coleman”,Billy Ray Lickert,Johnny Cox and saw little Carr Creek win it all when they played outside and had no uniforms. They played on an outdoor court and if you didn’t rebound, you had to chase the ball down a hill. The locals bought them uniforms for the tournament.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!

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