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Kentucky Basketball: Renewing The Notre Dame Rivalry

Tonight, the Kentucky Wildcats take on the Notre Dame Fighting Irish in my home town of Louisville at the former home of the Louisville Cardinals (and now Rupp Arena West), Freedom Hall.  Of course, yours truly and the missus will be at the event enjoying the evening.  For that reason, Ken will be doing the postmortem tonight.

Those of us who have been around a few years (some may read as "old") remember the day when there was a genuine rivalry between Kentucky and Notre Dame.  For those of you who don't remember that rivalry, I'd like to refresh your memory by referring you here and here.  Those two links are to Jon Scott's site, BigBlueHistory.net, which have not just one but two rivalry pages about Notre Dame.

Let's take a look at how these two teams compare, record wise, this year:

Rank and Records ND UK
RPI #38 #11
Strength of Schedule #225 #4
Overall 8-0 5-2
Conference 0-0 0-0
Home 6-0 3-0
Away 0-0 0-1
Top 25 0-0 1-0
RPI Top 50 1-0 0-2

 

Kentucky, so far, has played a much, much tougher schedule including more games away from home.  But the Irish have defeated their only RPI top 50 opponent, while Kentucky has lost 2 of their three games versus the RPI top 50, but does have one big win versus the highly ranked Washington Huskies.

Star-divide

Moving on to roster changes, let's see what has happened to the Notre Dame roster between last year and this:

Major losses
Luke Harangody 6-8 246 Senior Major loss
Tory Jackson 5-11 195 Senior Major loss
Jonathan Peoples 6-3 207 Senior Major reserve loss


Of course, we all are aware of the loss of Luke Harangody, who led the Irish in scoring and rebounding for a couple of years, but also notable is Tory Jackson, who was the straw that stirred the Irish cocktail last year, dishing out over 5 assists per game.

 

New Players
Alex Dragicevich 6-8 215 Freshman New
Eric Atkins 6-2 173 Freshman New, impact freshman
Jerian Grant 6-5 185 Freshman New


Not much to say here.  Eric Atkins was a Rivals.com 4* recruit out of high school and is playing major reserve minutes in his first year, even starting one game.


Notre Dame Fighting Irish Basketball Roster

# Pos. Comments W H College
Tim Abromaitis 21 F Returning starter 235 6-8 senior
Eric Atkins - G Impact freshman 173 6-2 freshman
Mike Broghammer 33 F Returning reserve 248 6-9 sophomore
Joey Brooks 32 G Returning reserve 215 6-5 sophomore
Jack Cooley 45 F Returning reserve 244 6-9 sophomore
Alex Dragicevich 12 G Freshman 215 6-8 freshman
Jerian Grant 22 G Freshman 185 6-5 freshman
Ben Hansbrough 23 G Returning starter 203 6-3 senior
Luke Harangody 44 F No longer with team 246 6-8 senior
Thomas Knight 25 F Returning reserve 253 6-10 sophomore
Tom Kopko 5 G Returning reserve 187 6-2 senior
Scott Martin 14 G Reserve last year, starter this year 219 6-8 senior
Tyrone Nash 1 G Returning starter, former UK recruit 232 6-8 senior
Carleton Scott 34 F Major reserve last yer, starter this year 218 6-8 senior

Unlike Kentucky, Notre Dame's roster is chock full of juniors and seniors, and that fact will matter against Kentucky.  The Irish are not as talented, but they are vastly more experienced and every single one of these players with the exception of the freshmen have been playing in coach Mike Brey's system for years.

The Four Factors to Winning

The Four Factors for this game look like this:

 

 

As you can see, this chart favors Notre Dame, slightly.  They get to the line more often and rebound the ball offensively better than Kentucky, at least when we consider the numbers strictly.  Kentucky shoots a little better and both teams take good care of the ball

What this chart does not tell you is that ND has done all it's damage versus weak teams.  The toughest team Notre Dame has played was the Wisconsin Badgers on a neutral floor, and they won that low-scoring affair 58-51.  Notre Dame did also beat a pretty good Georgia Bulldogs team on a neutral court in overtime, so if you want a pretty good idea of where this team is, look at that particular game.  That game was a foul fest heavily in favor of the Fighting Irish, just like the UNC-Kentucky game was.  The Dawgs' athleticism forced the Irish into 20% turnovers, an uncharacteristically high number for the normally circumspect Irish.

Overall Game Analysis

This game pits solid, mature Division I players against NBA-talented freshmen, something Kentucky will see a lot this year.  Mike Brey's squad is a solid offensive club with mostly the same strengths and weaknesses as Kentucky, except that UK is stronger defensively.

But one thing they do a lot better than Kentucky is get to the line and shoot free throws.  As we all know by now, that is the most efficient way to score in basketball, and Kentucky must find a way to minimize the impact of that statistic, either by getting a high percentage of offensive rebounds, or shooting a very high eFG%.

One of the things we have seen so far this year from John Calipari is that he is not pressuring as much on defense as he did last year, and consequently, UK is not producing turnovers at a very high rate.  Notre Dame does not really pressure much on defense, being more of a club that tries to beat you with offensive efficiency. 

It will be instructive to see if Calipari tries to attack Notre Dame's ballhandling like Georgia did.  It didn't quite work out for Georgia, and with Kentucky's thin bench, I don't think I'd bet on that approach.

Overall, Kentucky will have to win this basketball game by doing what it has done all season -- taking care of the ball, doing a good job on the offensive glass, and hitting shots. Kentucky is an improving defensive club, and if they continue to improve, it will mean good things versus the Irish.

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Hungry

I think after a close dissappointing loss to North Carolina Kentucky will be very hungry for a win and will have the crowd behind them. I predict a wider margin of victory than expected for UK in the 15 to 20 point range. The fact that Notre Dames team has more upperclassmen is something UK will see all season and if we can’t compete with upperclassmen then we are in for a long season.

by gright on Dec 8, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

I certianly hope UK is ready to play tonight.

Looking forward to beating Notre Dame.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Dec 8, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Little green guys with beards......grrrrrr

The Irish in me just cannot make it’s way to the surface…….grind the little buggers into the floor!!!

I am now and forever shall be The Cat In The Hat....The Artist formerly known as ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Dec 8, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Enjoy the game Glenn

If anyone should have the ASoB sign, it would be you!
We will be watching. ’-)

Make sure ND doesn’t buy pizza for all their fans this time. ’-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Dec 8, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

Glenn

I’m going as well. You’ll notice me ill be the guy wearing all the kentucky stuff. LOL.

by phatcatfan on Dec 8, 2010 1:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hehe!

We’ll be like twins!! :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 8, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Already On Expedia

Booking flight to Big Apple next year, perhaps a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to watch a UK (my alma mammy) vs KU (my son’s school) game with him in MSG (he lives just a few blocks away): priceless.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ha!

I’ve already logged a price tracker for trains from DC/Baltimore to NYC as well. 4 hours each way of me watching the world go by (plus KU and MSG) is a lot better than the 9 hour drive we’re taking this year to get to the IU game.

by dshnarw on Dec 8, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Tipping off 30 minutes later is

 Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins hosting John Wall.

My broadband is going to have to be wide open for some serious streaming…

Predictions:

  • UK by 7 over ND (hot shooting night for all of the guards)
  • Wall: 19-pts, 11-asts, 3-tos, 3-stls, 1-blk
  • Cousins: 19-pts, 1-ast, 7-rb, 0-blcks, 5-fouls
  • Kings in a major funk, but Wizards still find a way to lose on the heels of a decent game against the Lakers . Kings by 3.

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-- Tim

by HSLex on Dec 8, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Those were the days

when UK, UL, IU and ND all had it going. Hall, Crum, Knight, Digger. Center of the basketball universe before it moved to the Triangle (with Jimmy V gone, is it now just the the Hypotenuse?). Good times.

I have no doubt Crean will get the Crean and Crimson back into the conversation. Cal is holding up UK’s end of the bargain. Pitino is holding up UL’s end, and maybe someone else’s on the side. But I don’t see Mike Brey doing any better for the Irish. Oh well. We could always adopt Ohio State and start a Trapezoid.

by Wheatgerm on Dec 8, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

The hypotenuse!

Great visual. If Ol’ Roy doesn’t get back on the horse, it may become the Point!

by BCinVA on Dec 8, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I attended every game

of the Big Four Classic in Indy. Those were great games: UK, IU, UL, ND.

by jdogblue on Dec 8, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

This certainly used to be a great series.

My dad took me to a couple of these games during the 60s. If I recall, ND finally dropped because they never got a home game out of it.

by BCinVA on Dec 8, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Beat them for the Digger's sake

Ranking ex-coaches/announcers that hate UK with a passion:

  1. Bobby (if rape is inevitable, a woman should just lie back and enjoy it) Knight
  2. Digger Phelps – his ND record against UK is a lowly 4-12 and he hated playing on the ‘netural court’ at Freedom Hall. I never could understand that.

Nick

by KansasUKCat on Dec 8, 2010 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Add Billy Packer…

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Dec 8, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Cats' Interior Defense

Is vital to victory: Irish inside guys have excellent inside moves ala Harrangody. Must defend without excessive fouls.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Dec 8, 2010 5:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I saw my first game

in Freedom Hall in 1957. It was the Kentucky High School tournament “The Sweet Sixteen” It was the first held in Louisville. Never saw such a huge building at that time. We parked the car for the duration of the tournament (4) days, and rode the bus. Just four of us senior boys from Paducah out in the big city.

Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!

by oldcat73 on Dec 8, 2010 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

Old

We used to get state tourney tickets from our high school. Would travel to Louisville, stay 14 to a room for 4, and motor on over to Freedom Hall. It was a massive place to me. My seat was usually so far up in the end zone, I had to guess who the players were.

by jdogblue on Dec 8, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

jdog

I saw all 4 state tournaments while in high school. "54,55,and 56 in Lexington and ‘57 in Freedom Hall. Lots of memories. I saw “king Kelly Coleman”,Billy Ray Lickert,Johnny Cox and saw little Carr Creek win it all when they played outside and had no uniforms. They played on an outdoor court and if you didn’t rebound, you had to chase the ball down a hill. The locals bought them uniforms for the tournament.

Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!

by oldcat73 on Dec 9, 2010 4:35 AM EST up reply actions  

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