Mississippi Valley St. Delta Devils 60 @ Kentucky Wildcats (17) 85: Postmortem
This was one of those games.
Most teams, like our orange and white neighbor to the south or red and black neighbor to the west, say that through gritted teeth and a frozen grimace. But not this Kentucky team. "One of those games" means the same thing this year as it did last year. Against notably inferior opponents, Kentucky has off games just like everyone else. The difference is, off games are a matter of degree, not result.
A hearty "Thank you" and "Happy Holidays" to the Mississippi Valley St. Delta Devils. They are road warriors in every sense of the word, playing hard and determined basketball against superior teams in the hopes of getting the warped floor of their arena fixed before their first home game. They did not come into this game with expectations of victory, but they did come in with hopes and dreams of a monumental upset. They represented the true test, and true reason, that college basketball is so wonderful -- they came in to a huge, hostile arena against a vastly superior foe and gave their all. Delta Devils, we salute you, not just for your Unforgettable coach, but for your dedication to the college game.
This game for the Wildcats was notable mostly for the fact that coach John Calipari got himself ejected from the contest midway through the second half. In an affair reminiscent of a Kentucky loss under Rick Pitino I once saw (I believe it was at Vanderbilt early in Pitino's career, perhaps 1991), Calipari went out to game official Mike Stewart at half court and chewed him out after the ejection for at least 30 seconds. That's what's called, "getting your money's worth." I am not sure what provoked the first Calipari ejection in his two years at Kentucky, but whatever it was, he was not wishing Stewart a Merry Christmas during his last seconds on the court.
The ejection was remarkable mainly for its rarity. Coach Cal has been thrown out of exactly one college or professional basketball game -- as head coach of the Massachusetts Minutemen, February 24th, 1996, almost 15 years ago. Pitino, conversely, got run pretty much once every couple of years at least while he was coach at UK. Calipari was clearly agitated at a call about 3 minutes earlier, perhaps a non-call on a Doron Lamb drive where Eloy Vargas was knocked to the floor. Only Calipari knows for sure, and whatever it was, it was consumed by the rest of the often-sloppy game and not really obvious to me.
Superlatives:
- Mississippi Valley State team, for their hard but futile effort. They never gave up and never gave in to cheap shots or frustration.
- Josh Harrellson. Game in, game out, good team, bad team. It doesn't matter to Josh. He gets in there, defends the best he can and rebounds. He did that today. His consistency is what makes me love him. Game ball.
- Brandon Knight did okay. He shot the ball poorly and took some ill-advised shots, but 4 assists and 2 turnovers is not a bad point guard line.
- Darius Miller had a fair game. If you can overlook only 3 rebounds, he had 3 blocks, 2 steals, 5 assists, made all five free throws and generally was pretty aggressive offensively.
- Doron Lamb had a decent game. He was excellent in the first half and got the start over Miller in the second. But in the second half he just disappeared into the background.
- I thought Eloy Vargas played well. Six rebounds is pretty good in 10 minutes, but we do have to remember the level of competition.
- DeAndre Liggins played well overall. I have seen him play better defensively, though.
- Terrence Jones got his averages, but this was not one of his better games.
Overall, this was not the Wildcats' finest hour, but they didn't embarrass themselves, either. They handily defeated an inferior foe at home, even though they played pretty unimpressive basketball in the process. With that said, they did not do a Tennessee or Louisville and throw the game away, or let the opponent take it to them. Kentucky took care of the glass, made enough shots, and defended well enough so that the outcome was never really in doubt.
In the end, that's enough, and even Coach Cal could be said to be off his game a bit for getting run in such a meaningless manner. Practice time is coming up, and perhaps Calipari can practice holding his temper while he puts the Wildcats through three-a-days over the holiday break.
It looked to me like everybody involved could use the practice.
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Well I guess if I had to miss
a game, it’s better because of CSS instead of some other 3 letter diseases. I wish the university would contract with someone and let them carry all our games. I would “pay” yes I said it! I would pay to have a UK Wildcat Network, on DIRECTv for the world to see.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
I wonder
why, in a game like this, we don’t get Hood, Poole and Polson 8-10 mins.? We were up by 20 @ half. These guys need some floor time, especially if we get into foul trouble down the line.
I'm so naive, I though the point of games such as this one (and some upcoming like Coppin State) was to experiment
Yes, we want to win. But if we’re leading by a pretty hefty majority, why not experiment a bit. Let the bench get more experience. See what sort of abilities they have to drive the ball. What’s the worst that can happen – we only win by 10?
I was really kind of looking forward to this game, but that was more due to my deep adoration of Sean Woods and knowing it was Joe B’s b-day.
My main takeaways were: cool half-court shot by Knight, Cal getting ejected, and why didn’t some of the less experienced players get some court time??? Hopefully we’ll see them more in future games.
Oldcat, I’m with you…I would happily pay to add a UK channel to the lineup. I would even pay for an SEC channel ala the Big Ten’s.
ESPN3.com
I was able to watch the game over the internet on ESPN3.com. If you have a high-speed internet connection and decent-sized computer monitor, it is basically identical to watching on television. So far this year I have been able to watch this basketball game and a couple of football games that I otherwise would have only had the radio…
Want the conspiracy theory view?
Maybe Cal knows Deandre Daniels is coming (and playing this year). Or maybe he knows that Kanter will actually be allowed to play. Or both.
The complete disregard for Hood and Poole makes more sense if that’s he case. I don’t expect either to contribute much of anything this year, so I don’t think it matters much one way or the other, but you would think they’d have played more than they did last night.
my initial reaction a
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Dec 19, 2010 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry - doing this mobile
Was the same – where are pooled and hood? Then I had two thoughts. One is that Cal got ejected about the time they should have gotten in and in the excitement got overlooked. The second is that Cal is intent on a 7 man rotation and therefore wanted the 7 to get as many reps as possible. don’t really like the second point but it is what it is
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Dec 19, 2010 8:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's exactly what Cal said in the postgame media room interview
He said he is using a 7 man rotation. If he hadn’t gotten to leave the court early, he may have put Poole, Hood, and Polston in.
Perhaps the point of these games
is to get his key freshmen more minutes so that they will be more apt to follow the gameplan during conference play. It seemed to work last year as I recall.
good point.
And, if you are unhappy with how your first stringers are running things and following directions in a particular game, you certainly wouldn’t put your second string in just to get them some floor time. No, you would leave your conference and tight-game players in the game to work on things together in an actual competition environment.
It doesn’t really bother me that the non-key players didn’t get in. It was either an innocent oversight due to the ejection or whatever as memphis alluded to above, or it was intentional by Coach for instructional purposes, IMO, and I’ll just have to trust that this time.
This was a ho-hum game. No doubt. Heck, even I wasn’t as excited as I normally am for all our games (and no, I don’t usually care that we might be playing a team whom we should easily win against). I stayed out doing some Christmas shopping until about midway through the first half, when normally I will make sure I am home at least 10 minutes before tip-off.
Agree
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 19, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Oops - lost the rest of my response somehow.
The players definitely feed off the energy of the fans. Rupp was pretty tame last night.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
yeah.
Christmas coming is what has got my mind pre-occupied. I’ve got to get all my shopping done present-wise, get everything ready in order to host a few parties this week, buy groceries, do a ton of baking, cooking, and clean everything. You know, all that fun stuff. : ) In addition to not feeling a ton of go-get-‘em energy from the fans, maybe the boys are the same. Pre-occupied with Christmas stuff.
Im sure that is true as well.
They are probably also looking ahead – which we all know can be dangerous but is all to easy to do – to “bigger” games such as one in particular scheduled for New Years Eve.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 19, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
The freshmen already get plenty of minutes
The simple fact is that no matter how someone practices, you simply don’t know whether they can contribute anything until they have a chance to play significant minutes in real games. The next few games are the perfect opportunity to give Hood and Poole a chance to show what they can do as well as give Vargas extended minutes and let him get a better feel for playing with his teammates, work on blocking out, being aggressive, etc.
I think this aspect of team building was an epic fail on the part of the coaching staff.
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
Cal gets paid
plenty to do his job. I, for one, will defer to his judgment on how to handle his team’s development. Epic fail is a bit dramatic, don’t you think?
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
normally I would agree
But Cal explicitly said he wanted to build some depth during this stretch of games. To say that and then utilize players the way he did last night earns the tag.
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
From Saturday's LHL
Calipari turned to what might be really roiling his insides: the improvement he says Kentucky must make during the semester break. He mentioned how the Cats need to talk more, play together, improve a zone defense to counter future foul trouble, develop more depth, gain a better appreciation for time-and-score factors and figure out a way to play better with a small lineup.
(emphasis mine)
The only way the Cats are going to develop depth is if Cal actually plays the bench some.
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
This is interesting.
I read what you posted and I read what Coach Cal said, but has he ever really used a deep rotation when it matters? You know, when it comes SEC time or perhaps even looking farther down the road to the NCAA tourney. If my memory serves, he has not.
So, I stick by what I said above, either it was an oversight that the players like Poole and Hood didn’t get more minutes or perhaps the quote you linked above was lip service.
I love Cal, but I also understand that he is a master at, well, trying to say all the right things and I don’t take everything he says at face value. Maybe he changed his mind. Maybe he forgot what he’d said. I don’t know, but for me, and how I try to stay a somewhat sane UK fan : ), well, I don’t hold him to every little thing he says. That goes for the positive and the negative, btw.
Cal generally uses an NBA-style rotation
Which normally means 8-9 guys are important cogs, 1 other guy gets some (but not much) PT, and 2 are really nothing more than practice players.
Last year, UK had 9 guys avg over 10 mpg. His Memphis teams from 05-09 all had 9 guys over 10 mpg.
Not sure if that dispersal of minutes changed in big games. Its obvious that this year’s UK team has less depth than Cal is normally used to having, and he’s showing how he deals with it- he’d rather tighten the rotation than put guys on the floor just for the sake of giving them PT.
Dangerous in one way, but in another it makes sense. If he can only trust 7 when it really, really counts, he might as well get those 7 used to dealing with it right now.
you're last paragraph is spot on, IMO
Sure, Cal may want to use a deeper rotation than what he currently has been using in order to win games, but if he isn’t confident with the players 3rd, 4th or 5th off the bench he simply can’t.
Like you said, go with what you trust.
Oh, and to me, and this isn’t directed at you, mjj, just in general, but anyway, to me 8-9 guys isn’t deep. So, I wouldn’t say that Cal uses a deep rotation or ever has, when it matters.
I see all the points made here
Get the frosh more reps, go with who you trust, oversight, etc. BUT……….we’re very thin this yr. with our bench. This is D1 ball, people get into foul trouble as TJ has several times, get injured(God forbid). I’m not a coach. I won’t even call myself a student of the game. I’m just a fan and I react to what I see in the games. But, I’ve watched a LOT of bball. A LOT. When I suggested earlier this yr. that maybe Hood would be better off elsewhere, I caught some flak from some people on here. Again, I just react to what I see on the floor. And, since then, others have suggested the same thing on other sites. I suggested that Josh needs to dunk more and go back up strong with the ball when he gets it down low on a pass or miss or rebound. Recently, Cal has publicly said the same thing. So, I guess I’m not ALWAYS full of it. I’m not trying to pat myself on the back, just commenting on what I see happening on the floor. Games like these are tailor made to get your bench some mins. What happens if Miller or Ligs get sick or injured? Hood and/or Poole get thrown into a game that they must produce at least somewhat. There’s nothing like game experience. I’m just sayin’.
by bigbill992001 on Dec 19, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Neither of those guys has produced when they have been given the chance in the past
and I am guessing that they are not producing in practice or the opportunities would be more apt to show up. Just because we want the bench to be deeper, doesn’t mean that it will be. Also, giving the guys who are at the end of the bench is nowhere near as important as giving Miller, Lamb and Knight reps. They will determine, not Poole and Hood, how far this team goes.
I mostly agree
but, it’s hard to get experience, and produce, if you don’t get game experience. Miller is what he is. I’m talking about blow-outs here, not close games. And, we always run the risk of injury to a starter in a game that was over at the half, imo.
by bigbill992001 on Dec 20, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you
on the flip side of the coin, how much are Liggins, Jones, Miller, etc. going to learn playing against a tired MVS team with 8 mins left in a blowout game? Not much, but Hood and Poole do need the reps if they are ever going to be counted on to give anything.
I am guessing that they are not producing in practice or the opportunities would be more apt to show up.
This is what people were saying back when Porter was starting and Liggins was getting 3 mins a game under BCG too. The only way to show whether you can contribute is to be given a legitimate chance at some point. Hood and Poole have not been given that. I believe Hood could be a decent player with reps, though unless there is an injury, he is highly unlikely to be given a shot.
This kind of goes to my overall point
We don’t know if Hood or Poole can be “trusted” because they never get any playing time. We can talk all we want about how guys practice, but there is literally no way to know how a guy will respond in game situations until he actually plays in some games.
That is what these games should be used for. There is little chance of losing once UK is up by 15+ points, so find some time for Hood and Poole and Vargas and see how they do. To operate otherwise is wasting resources.
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
Lotta coaches in here,
Cal better look out for his job.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
I live in the Philippines
and I was able to watch the game on my laptop thanks to one of the guys over at KSN posting a feed. It wasn’t great quality, but at least I could watch.
Watched CSS on ESPN3 (not in HD)
but they didn’t show the Joe B. tribute! Instead, we were treated to same three commercials over and over again, plus a couple of pre-packaged bits that held no particular interest for UK or MVSU fans.
Sure wanted to see the old players again.
Here is a video
Not the best look, but better than nothing. YouTube video of halftime.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Thanks so much a2, for posting that
“Every player that comes out of the tunnel with KENTUCKY across his chest is your boy.” What a last quote!
That stat may speak volumes.
Granted, this isn’t perfect math (as we’d have to see the # of Ts by game…some have 1, some have 2, some have 0, etc) but 46% of games Stuart has called have T’s attached? Any method to his madness?
Nope.
He’s 4th in the nation. The leader is like 8 techs ahead and 3 games behind. :-)
Good thing we didn’t have that guy. Calipari might not have lasted until the first TV timeout. :-)
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Yep.
He mainly officiates for the SEC and the Big East.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 24, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Glenn, spot on.
Wasted night, except to see Sean Woods coach and the few shots of the former players. Emotionless, ho-hum, lunch bucket kind of game. If you don’t want to put Hood and Poole in to grow them, at least put them in as a reward for practicing all year. Could have been because of all the unnecessary excitement at 6:26, but maybe not.
Crappy streaming on ESPN3; crappy play. Still need lots of work. Free Enes. Sign DeAndre. Something.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."
Maybe Cal
got tossed to show the team the kind of emotional level he wants them to play with.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
That seems a reasonable theory.
Especially given Terrence Jones’ lack of it.
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Brandon Knight spoke a little about this post-game.
Reading between the lines, I think Cal was a combination of really ticked about the non-calls, livid some of his players seemed to be sleep-walking through the game, and after the 1st T figured this could be another teaching moment: Play until you can’t, not just when you want to or the crowd is behind you.
The fact he such a limited history with technicals, and the game was so one-sided equals fodder for days of speculation.
Replay
Does anyone know a link where I can watch a replay of the game? It was only available in my area on ppv for $114. Not going to pay that for one basketball game.
ESPN3 ...
… is the place I would go.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 19, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately...
my provider isn’t on ESPN3’s list.
Pretty much.
They missed shots they have been making. That’s the reason that it looked so disjointed. The offense really wasn’t that bad, they just couldn’t make shots.
Defensively, there were issues. But to be honest, the defense at times looked really good.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 19, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Heh.
Indeed.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 19, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I feel the need to point out ...
… that the Delta Devils this year are vastly improved over last year. Sean Woods is making progress down there.
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in style, too. : )
Also, I thought Coach looked awfully sharp in his brown suit as well. It didn’t show up as easily recognizable brown as I was watching the game last night (ESPN Full Court isn’t in HD) but it was mentioned that it was brown and why he was wearing it and upon looking at some pictures of it this morning, well, it was very sharp indeed.
They played good enough to win and the game never in doubt
You can’t say the same for UL vs Drexel or UT vs Charlotte. This game and the next two are practice games against different bodies then they normally have in regular practice sessions.
Nick
That may be the best explanation of them all, Kansas.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."
Just a non-related question here
Donna Smith was seen quite often on camera at the home games in particular. I wonder if Mrs. Cal, Ellen is in regular attendance, and if Cal or she asks not to be on camera. Anybody sit behind the UK bench who knows?
I thought the same and where is Ashley
Is our Number one ambassador not yet excited about this year’s team…?
Nick
by KansasUKCat on Dec 19, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Glad we won.
Cal getting ejected may be part of the reason certain players didn’t get PT at the end. It was probably more fun to be in the stands at Rup than at home on the couch.
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