Maybe Calipari can recruit some football players, too?
Hey, everybody, long time, no see. I thought I'd jump on the moaning, teeth-gnashing bandwagon while it was still rolling and put our fair fanbase into even more panic and turmoil by examining Kentucky's recruiting class for FOOTBALL in 2010. You remember football, don't you? The game with that oblong ball and the grass with pads and stuff? Good.
I checked Rivals this morning because I'd noticed a complete dearth of comment on Joker's first freshman class as head coach and nearly had an aneurysm. Brace yourselves, Cats fans: sliding in at last place in the SEC (and it's not even close), your own Kentucky Wildcats. We have zero five star commitments (expected). We have zero four star commitments (not expected at all). We have fifteen three stars (meh). And some other guys to carry Morgan Newton's Gatorade, I guess.
What gives? Wasn't Joker's strategy of (1) Don't sign anyone early; (2)__________; (3) PROFIT! supposed to bring in some really stellar high school talent? Wasn't that part of the whole "head coach in waiting" benefits package, recruiting continuity and improvement? Why is that dog over there laughing at me? These are a lot of questions that I would like to answer, but cannot. Here's hoping Joker knows what he's doing, or his seat will start heating up before he even gets to sit in it.
Okay, that's that. You may now resume attacking our basketball team via Twitter, Omegle, and YouFace. Go Cats!
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This deserved being a headline article?
by wklawdog on Jan 29, 2010 9:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking the same thing...
are the Editors implicitly telling readers to channel their angry energy into attacking Joker instead of the basketball team?
by mrmondaynite on Jan 29, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
They’d have to find out where he lives so they can put signs in his yard first. By then, we might have already played Vanderbilt.
Anything but Gatorade - yet another SEC sports blog
by Anything but Gatorade on Jan 29, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
GASP!
How dare you bring up football in January! In the midst of SEC play! Near treason!
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 29, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Ha
I’m sure it’ll go away soon, just wanted to bring it to everyone’s attention.
Anything but Gatorade - yet another SEC sports blog
by Anything but Gatorade on Jan 29, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Purpose served, then.
I didn’t know we had 0 4* guys…I had thought the DE from South Carolina was a 4* at least. I have a recruiting junkie (PSU fan) friend who told me he was a catch.
by mrmondaynite on Jan 29, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe
But Rivals says he’s a 3. Probably because he’s kind of small for an end at 228 lbs. with a less-than-knockout 40 time. Not that the 40 matters, but still.
Anything but Gatorade - yet another SEC sports blog
by Anything but Gatorade on Jan 29, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Rivals are the experts...so I'll trust them.
I think it was the first time since my friend has been paying attention to recruiting (he’s 25…so probably 5-6 years) that UK secured a kid PSU was also looking at.
by mrmondaynite on Jan 29, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah,
kinda small for his position just like Devan Downey.
Ehhh....that analogy is a bit tenuous.
You see many more undersized PGs succeeding than undersized DEs.
by mrmondaynite on Jan 29, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Why not?
There are UK football fans here also, and I for one, am totally disapointed by the recruiting. This "coach in waiting " thing really never got properly hashed-out.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Wklawdog is one of those football fans.
by mrmondaynite on Jan 29, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'm confused?
We don’t ever get many 4* recruits… last year: 2; 2008: 1; 2007: 1
And if you go back and look, alot of those guys didn’t even win the starting job. It’s a matter of development and we are not a 4* players’ first choice. We on our way to that but those rankings really dont mean alot anyway.
Joker is doing a fine job and by the end of signing day well probably have 1 or 2 4* just like we always do. Nothing to worry about here
the more I see the less I know for sure
Here's the stich
I just FingerTagged both Joker and Coach Cal on YouFace, but I don’t have my hopes up.
Joker has just changed his employment status to “Weirdsies”.
by Strangeite on Jan 29, 2010 9:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh, one other thing
Maybe Joker’s army of underpants gnomes have been to busy reading A Sea of Blue to actually be on the recruiting trail.
But I am not worried. With such an execellent recruiting plan, there is no way we can fail.
I said in an earlier post that these are the recruiting results you would expect at EKU...
Not an SEC scool like UK..He has totally dropped the ball. Expect the results EKU would have if they played an SEC schedule.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
You have been smoking crack to make a statement like that.
Our recruiting class in currently ranked 48th in the nation (which translates to 11th in the SEC). It is not where I, or anyone else, would like it to be, but to say it is on the level of a mid to low tier FCS team is crazy. This class is ranked at about the same level as the last 4 or 5 classes has been ranked and that type of recruiting has gotten us beyond the probationary period and made us into a respectable team that is not overlooked and automatically booked for homecoming anymore.
To move the team forward, recruiting will need to progress further, but to think that this class is an abject failure is a bit much.
While it may be an exagerration to describe it that way..
It is still, and I believe, will remain to be the 11th place in conference recruiting class; then how have we moved forward?
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
aw, sucks, thanks for thinking of me
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
You are correct, Anything but Gatorade
Wasn’t that part of the whole “head coach in waiting” benefits package, recruiting continuity and improvement?
Not only that, but to my understanding “recruiting continuity” was the only conceivable reason for this particular coach in waiting package.
And the cost savings on the salary, versus going out and looking.
by Sonic on Jan 29, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions
I never understood why it is so important for this guy..
to be the coach at UK. Was it based on his superior football mind? During the overtime against UT, that was some of the worst play-calling I have ever seen. What happened to the “wildcat” stuff we had been doing with Cobb? It was the only reason we were in the game,offensively.Obviously it’s not for recruiting..we can’t convince even one 4 star recruit that they would like to play for an SEC program in a nice place, with good facilities?
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
It wasn't as much as the play calling
as it was the execution. Conner being hurt and not leading the blocking made things very difficult to execute. Joker was being offered very good jobs and UK wanted to lock him up. What jobs you might ask? The Offensive Coordinator job at Oklahoma for one. If you paid any attention at all to the Tennessee search you would know big name coaches are not going to be knocking down the door to take this job. Besides it has not helped South Carolina and what makes anybody think it would be any different here. Joker is making some changes to the assistants and recruiting is #1 on the list. Get of his ass and give him a fair chance. He is a UK guy thru and thru and he deserves better.
by Grasslands1 on Jan 29, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I have been proven wrong many times in my life
.
And it will be a welcomed example of such if Joker guides the team to bowl games. Any bowl game.
Should he advance the team, to a stray higher level bowl every once in a while, it will be an especially satisfying example of being proven wrong.
Joker is being given a fair chance. By all of us. But what are we supposed to do, just wipe the slate clean of his past coaching decisions, and play calling philosophies, as if they never happened? Just cross our fingers and hope that Joker as “Head Coach” is appreciably different from Joker as “Head Coach of the Offense”? A total “free pass” because he is a UK guy, thru and thru?
Alright, then. Fingers crossed and a clean slate it is. Go Blue!
by Sonic on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You need to understand something
about executing a play. All plays that are executed correctly are good play calls. When they are not, they are considered a bad play call. When a coach has the horses they tend to look like geniuses and when they don’t, they look inept. Joker is the same coach that took an offense led by an inexperienced QB that could barely pass for 100 yards a game and somehow managed to win more than they lost. Too many people that have never coached or ever led a group of people want to criticize.
as an NCO..
I agree completely; hence the question; is it unreasonable to ask why we did not explore any other possibilities ,even if only in principle? Evidently, you are satisfied with the recruiting.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
You mean on a chalk board,
or a napkin, or maybe in a video game?
You are exactly right.
But you need to understand something about reality. Conner was not hurt in between the time Joker called that play and the time it was run. He was hurt before Joker called that play.
It is the responsibility of the coach to call the best play… here is the part you need to pay close attention to…. based on the actual personnel that he has…. on the field.
Not little ’X’s and ’O’s on a chalk board.
There is no way on earth a play that has one of your smallest players trying to block for one of your slowest is the best play call based on actual personnel. Especially considering the event(s) that had transpired to get you inside the 10 in the first place. There is a reason that one of the UT defensive backs was quoted after the game as being thankful for our play calling.
by Sonic on Jan 29, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
too many tangibiles
You give me the pencil last and I’ll score every time. The problem is the defense can adjust to what they see. There is a guy in the press box who hs charted your players from ever game you played. He knows your tendencies and has put what he thinks it the best eleven on the feld to stop you. Does the quarterback know who is coming on a blitz? Are they hiding their true coverages?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I'm trying to figure out how to give you a rec..
But can only figure out how to rec the story…your point deserves that more than “why are we having this discussion”…
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
You know what?
The man hasn’t coached his first game yet so I think your comments speak far more about you as an individual than Joker as a coach.
if you are referring to me..
do you think it would have been unreasonable to at least explore other options as the head coach at UK? Do you think this recruiting class validates the way things were done? Is that not what this is about;grading the recruiting class? If continuitity was supposed to improve that,then so far we have not done that. If it is about maintaining the status quo;then we HAVE done that. We could have looked at any number of guys including Jim Donnan, Tommy Tuberville, on and on..
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Shoulda Coulda Woulda
All is meaningless since we didn’t. Give the man a chance. That being said, I am not a big fan of Joker Phillips but he deserves his opportunity to prove himself.
We don't know...
…how much Joker’s coaching-in-waiting status helped us with recruiting in previous years. Theoretically, it would hamper negative recruiting of having opposing coaches bring up Brooks’ uncertain status.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 29, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
That is why we never should have had a "coach in waiting"
It would have left our options open for somone like..Tommy Tuberville. He went to TTech , but it could just as easily have been UK. Just one example there.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
also..
While Brooks had sucess by UK standards; he did nothing that should have entiltled him to name his successor. That is National Title territory; reserved for people like Joe-Pa.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
he suggested it to Mitch Barnhart. The athletic director would definttely have more say than Brooks.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I was suprised we hired Brooks!
With the progress under Morris, and the stain of NCAA impropriety in his past..but I found Coach Brooks to good for us in the end..While I am asking questions now about how we helped ourselves by at not at least exploring other options; this guy may be the next “Bear Bryant” , who knows? If Joker Phillips wins the NC at UK; I hope they don’t fgive him a watch, and Calipari a Cadillac!
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
It is hard to see the cunning strategy behind it,
that’s for sure.
I heard Dr. Todd interviewed by Chris Cross on 1300 one afternoon. He talked about this.
I just remember sitting in my truck and saying to myself: “Are you kidding me? So that is the level of thought that goes into major decisions like this? Are we even trying to move forward?”
I spent more time doing research the last time I bought a new camcorder, than that.
by Sonic on Jan 29, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Wait a second, you were actually voluntarily listening to Chris Cross
And you’re criticizing the level of thought of Lee Todd?!?
j/k ;-)
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
Ha ha ha!
.
I was in my truck. Stuck in traffic.
And I can’t stand the “normal” kind of talk radio that isn’t about sports. :-)
by Sonic on Jan 29, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
The last time we hired a big name coach...
fired by an SEC school in Alabama it didn’t work out so well.
I don't exactly understand that theory, THM
.
How would Joker being named the “coach in waiting” benefit any kid (and his family) who really had his heart set on playing for Rich Brooks? If Brooks leaves, he is gone. And the kid doesn’t get to play for him. How does Joker being named the next coach help that?
I thought the continuity of “coach in waiting” was meant for the kids who really wanted to play for Joker, the ‘Head Coach of the Offense’, since it guaranteed that Joker wouldn’t be gone.
This may all be moot, though. Who knows how many kids there are like that, anyway?
by Sonic on Jan 29, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Theory is a kid wouldn't come to UK unless he was comfortable with Joker.
Brooks says to recruit, I don’t know how much longer I’ll be here, but meet my replacement.
If the recruit is fine with Joker, he comes to UK.
Conversely, if Brooks (or an opposing coach) says, I don’t know much I’ll be here, but my replacement is uncertain. The next coach might run an option offense Few people are going to walk into that degree of uncertainty.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 29, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Morgan Newton...Case in point:
said that the main reason he came to UK was that he believed in Joker Phillips who recruited him hard and said he liked his coaching style when he signed with us. He didn’t even mention Coach Brooks by name, look at his video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jB_LU0Lrvo
The guy knows what hes doing
the more I see the less I know for sure
Tru is correct
Sorry ABC. Tru hit the nail on the head.
All the garbage about the benefits of going to a minor bowl, etc.
I need to only point to Louisville to show what a new face, coming from a football school, with himself and at least two coaches from one of the best football recruiting states can do it improve lackluster fan support, give hope, in their case, a return to top of the conference, and assuring the athletic director is striving to have a better program.
I hope Joker does well. His naming the head coach was known and expected but the results appear to be a little less than expected in recruiting.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I'm not a huge recruiting guy (basketball or football)
However, I think that most football recruits tend to go off the board early. Joker has only been head coach for weeks now. I am reserving judgment on his recruiting prowess until he has at least one season and his own staff.
That said, I think Joker was likewise disappointed by the recruiting haul, prompting him to fire two coaches and replace them with better recruiters (supposedly).
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 29, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Heh.
I haven’t said anything yet. You mean Anything But Gatorade?
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Don't know that L'ville
is a good example. I think the revived support and excitement was in a large part because of a new face, ANY new face. Bozo the clown would have been cheered – oops, sorry, he just left there.
All South Park references get a rec from me
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
We will be fine with Joker
He is a KY boy, a KY player and a KY coach. He knows where we want to go and will work hard at Operation Win. :-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
That is a high side...
Also, Morgan Newton looks like he could be a real player with time and good coaching. One thing I did like about the Brooks era was the ability of the staff to develope players;if that has continuity it will help the lackluster recruiting.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
We need somebody that can throw the ball accurately.
I am not sure Morgan Newton fills the bill on that. He was only a freshman so I will hold judgement on him.
Newton
looks kinda like JaMarcus Russell when he was at LSU
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
apparently we already have the guy in camp. I don’t see a lot of quarterbacks on the lists of our recruits.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
He is, it's Ryan Mossakowski.
He was a four star coming out of HS where Newton was only a three star QB coming out. Newton was a Parade All American as an athlete but not QB. It will all come down to how his arm is after his injury. I would not be surprised if Hartline wins the starters job if he is healthy. We HAVE TO BE ABLE to throw the ball. I don’t think Newton will ever be accurate enough. It seems to me, accuracy is a gift and not something that can be taught that easily. Yes, you can work on the mechanics and get better. Another problem I have with Newton is that coming out of HS he was billed as a QB who could run, but he isn’t near as fast as I had hoped.
Just a little clarification Grass
Newton was the #6 quarterback prospet in the nation according to Scout, and the #7 quarterback prospect by SuperPreps. He was rated the #14 dual threat QB by Rivals. He was a four-star by Scout and a three-star by Rivals.
Moss was rated the #25 QB prospect by Scout, and the #14 pro-style QB by Rivals. He was rated a four-star by both publications. He may have been listed higher, but as you now his shoulder injury may have impacted his rating.
There are definite advantages to going to any bowl game.
The biggest one is a month long of practices. No bowl game and you are not allowed to practice.
soon I hope
Wben is the benefits going to kick in at Lexington?
With more than half the teams going to a bowl game it seems the only ones not goiong to some bowl is thre three buy wins we have coming in for next season.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
It has, we now have 4 straight seasons without a
losing record. Paris, some 90 percent of the teams that go to a bowl are playing 3 or 4 buy games. That is not going to change, you need to get over it.
I think what no one is getting here..
is that there are a group of fans not satisfied with just “not losing”, who were hoping the program would build on the modest successes we have had lately, and move forward. With what we already have on the field for next year we can do that,with good play-calling; when are we going to set a new goal, like 8 wins, a Bowl game that’s meaningful. I mean Rutgers made it to the top 5 lately….
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
BINGO!
You are so right about the ‘just not losing’.
Charleston Southern, Western and Akron. The first two are in the 180’s in the rankings and Akron over 100. We aren’t going to play anyone we don’t have to. The ‘respectibility’ that Brooks chased and never caught is going to continue to elude our program until we get someone who wants to make an honest effort at improving footall.
Ain’t going to happen with the current athletic director.
He’s tickled to death to lose to Tennessee as long as we can get to a bowl in balmy Nashville or Memphis.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I sure hope
the last couple of weeks in recruiting raise our status. This isn’t a great omen for the future; however, this level of recruiting has at least gotten us to a competitive level. The time is ticking now on Joker and everything is now under the microscope with a lot more pressure than Brooks had the last few years. If he delivers – hope, hope, hope – he’ll be more celebrated than Brooks; if he doesn’t he’ll bounce around as an assistant the rest of his life. That alone will motivate him, his entire future is the next couple of years.
Now if he could maybe raid some of the Tennessee recruits that are unhappy with their decision…….
Now if he could maybe raid some of the Tennessee recruits that are unhappy with their decision……"
I love that idea..hoist the Vols on their own petard! If we finally beat them, now is the time. If Coach Phillips beats the Vols, he will be immortalized in the manner of Pitino. He will never worry about his job. So, I am all for that.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
A couple of things
1. Signing day isn’t here yet, so it’s a bit premature to be discussing the good/bad of recruiting. In football, recruiting of already committed athletes goes on until signing day, plus, the staff are currently out recruiting.
2. To blame Joker for any perceived weaknesses in this class is ridiculous. He’s been the head coach for less than a month. Chuck Smith is the recruiting coordinator, place blame with him if one feels the need.
3. The class, as it stands now, is a solid, if not spectacular class. There are several impact players, particularly in the secondary, and defensive end positions, as well as running back.
4. And for those above who are bad-mouthing the football program … get a grip and an idea of what you’re talking about. This program has grown y leaps and bounds over the last four or five years. If one can’t resolve to admit that, then I recommend a lesson in UK football history.
by Ken Howlett on Jan 29, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Leaps And Bounds?
A jot hyperbolic, don’t you think? A couple of rungs up the ladder perhaps.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson
No, it may be understating the case.
Look at all the firsts, and first time in x amount of years achievements the team has accomplished over the last four years, plus, the leap in talent and depth.
there are a group of fans not satisfied with just "not losing", who were hoping the program would build on the modest successes we have had lately, and move forward
AND..it is not unreasonable to ask why it seems we are satisfied with the status quo; THAT is not “bad-mouthing” the program.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
furthermore..
As far as the “history” of UK football; I have been suffering through that since birth! In over 40 years we have mostly have been the doormat of the SEC, with half of our winning marred by NCAA violations! There is your history lesson..now that we have had modest success; it is not unreasonable to ask questions about the status quo; which seems to be the goal for the program.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
ro307805, this is 100% exactly
what I am trying to express frustration with. The apparent ease at which this program, and its fans, seem to accept the status quo. Which according to who defines it, is: (a) better than before, (b) not awful, or ( c) little baby steps.
To let you in on a secret, my main frustration isn’t really with Joker, although I do have serious reservations about how good he is going to prove to be. For all I know, Joker may very well have been the best candidate to take over. That is possible.
My frustration is a little higher up the ladder than Joker. It is with Dr. Todd, and to a lesser extent with Mitch. It annoys me that there is this giant cloud of “Why golly gee! Isn’t going to the Music City Bowl such a wonderful thing!? Why, I betcha we can get a reasonably priced new coach to keep bringing us down here to beautiful Nashville pretty regularly!”
I am not saying that we would have found another coach better than Joker. That’s fine. I am just saying that at the very least Dr. Todd should not have painted this program into a corner named “Status Quo with the Coach in Waiting”. No offense to anyone’s delicate sensibilities, but as competitors, that is pretty weak.
As a competitor, it is never to your strategic advantage to voluntarily narrow your own options. Not if the object is to move forward.
Maybe Joker would have been the best coach available, even if we had at least tried to look around. And perhaps Joker will advance the program. I would love to see it. Why? Well it isn’t because Joker is “a UK guy” and “deserves a chance”, it is because I always want this program to do everything it possibly can to move…. forward.
by Sonic on Jan 30, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
i agree completely
whenever I ask the question of whether or not it is unreasonable to have expected a coaching search, even if only cursory, the only comment is I am a “Joker Hater” please vote in my poll: http://www.aseaofblue.com/2010/1/30/1284658/poll-on-what-level-of-success-is
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
I'm heartened that you know your history,
what surprises me is your lack of knowledge about the present.
Ken,
please expound on the present.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I have ...
many, many times on these very pixels.
by Ken Howlett on Jan 31, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Is it the present
where this discussion is taboo? When you have not beaten your conference rival in over 25 years; won the division, and your present recruiting has no 4 star or higher recruits, the present is quite relevant.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Re: ro307
They are building on their success, what is it you wnat them to do.
It takes time. Sixty years of futility, with the occassional winning season, is not erased in four year.
Problem is, many people have absolutely no clue, concept, or idea of what it takes to build a college football program, especially in the toughest conference, and strongest division in the sport.
What we’ve witnessed over the last four years is only the beginning.
Foreign concept here — Patience.
I am very patient
I’ve been waiting to beat the Vols since 1984.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Sorry Ken, I Disagree
1, I don’t think we are going to pick up any four stars recruits or very many three star ones. Doesn’t this hold true for all teams and not just Kentucky?
2. Joker has been here for several years. The recruits know that, knew that and I don’t think many didn’t understaand what ‘coach in waitng’ meant. We don’t need to place the blame on anyone. The recruits have and are going to make their choices and we’ll see in a few days where we fall.
3. The class is currrent ranked as the last place one in the conference. Solid?
4. Are we still playing the ‘probation’ card? As far as leaps and bounds? Tell me the added 12th game hasn’t ‘made’ us what we are. We have finished higher that fifth or sixth in the Eastern Division once in the last seven years. That was a tie for fourth with South Carollina. They beat us that year so we could consider that as another fifth place finish.
We play one Division AA school as season. Now we play that and Western.
Here’s some Kentucky Football history for you.
Neither Curry or Claiborne played a Division AA school while here. They also played LSU every season while they coached at Kentucky. It was on a regular rotation with Mississippi State out of the Western Division.
If Claiborne had the same conditions, scheduling, number of games, etrc., he would have gone to seven straight bowls.
Your a good guy Ken, but don’t try telling me we are improved. More bowls, weaker schedules and we struggle to win three in the conference.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
We could
be last in the SEC and solid at the same time if compared to other teams out there. Kentucky will find it very hard to make progress in the SEC under any circumstances and certainly we are not going to do it quickly. We have made some progress and were only a few plays away from a really good season by UK standards. Let’s see if we build on this.
That is one assessment that I do agree with
As there are no top rated recruits,this class will not have an impact on the field one way or another for at least a couple of years. The cupboard is not totally empty now; but it is interesting that we have not signed at least one four star recruit as yet. But small steps forward would be nice, and a recruiting class is an item on the report-card. Bottom of the SEc is not acceptable to me,even if we play in the" Also-Ran" Bowl every year.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Ah, shucks
it seems the written record is hard to defeat.
But I do like to see a pep rally for the football faithful now and then.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I had the wonderful opportunity....
to meet Joker Phillips at the Eastern High School vs. Jeffersontown High School basketball game last night at Eastern. He was there watching Jon Davis (who I’m acquainted with) play on the Varsity basketball team, and visiting a football recruit that plays for J-Town’s Varsity football team.
Anyways, after the game was over I saw him standing across the gym waiting for Jon to come out of the locker room. He was with Eastern’s football coach, Eastern’s athletic director and the J-Town recruit, and he wasn’t being flocked by people so I figured it was perfect timing. I went up to him, introduced myself and shook his hand, had a 10 minute conversation with him about everything from Eastern’s game, to my choice in college (which is UK, by the way!), to Kentucky basketball and football and how big of a fan I am, to (hopefully) more bowl games in the future, to Jon Davis and the J-Town recruit. I had a few words with the recruit, told him that UK athletics was the way to go, then I took my picture with him and that was it.
Joker is a wonderful character. He’s very nice and a great converser; hopefully he talks as well as he coaches/recruits. J.Davis will be a nice pickup if he signs in 2011 (he came in with a UK hoodie on today in our English class, and I’ve never seen him wear UK apparel)
Just thought you guys would get a kick out of that read! GO CATS!!!
by jmcclellan13 on Jan 29, 2010 8:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They obviously don't know where to look
And the Herald Leader/Courier Journal ignoring Tri-State football acerbates that problem. WVU,Ohio St. and Marshall love to recruit there because the players are seeing programs from three states; and the Ironton Tigers, Russell Red Devils, Ashland Tomcats, and the Huntington Schools keep playing Championship football against programs from far larger cities.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
someone needs to, as there is no homework
they seem to be just repeating what other scout pubs put out. Also, decades of championship football in the tri-state and no ranked recruits by rivals? are they saying the coaching is better there?
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Haters...
Go home! Ken you are on the money. Give Joker 3 seconds to prove his worth before you climb in his shirt. This class will be just fine.
Haters?
Maybe some of us are tired of being one of the bottom four in the conference every year. Actually want to see improvement instead of watering down the schedule and praying for a few teams on the SEC portion of the schedule having a poor season.
I’ve been attending Kentucky football games since Stoll Field and have seen the good, bad, and redicious.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
your vote would be appreciated on the simplistic poll I posted
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2010/1/30/1284658/poll-on-what-level-of-success-is
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO















