Vanderbilt Commodores at Kentucky Wildcats: Game Preview
It's the 'Cats versus the 'Dores! The Kentucky Wildcats and the Vanderbilt Commodores will do battle as two of the leading teams in the SEC East clash in Rupp Arena.
Make no mistake, folks -- Vanderbilt is going to be a difficult out tomorrow. Kentucky is recovering from the shock of their first loss this year, and the Commodores are coming off a huge win in their bitter in-state rivalry with the Tennessee Volunteers.
A quick observation here -- I like situations where our team is coming off a tough loss, and the other team is coming off a huge win. If you were talking about two peers, that would turn this into a trap game. But keep in mind -- we are Kentucky. We are everyone's "Super Bowl," as Coach Cal is fond of saying, and there is no way the Commodores are going to come into this game cocky or careless. So if you were thinking this is a favorable set up for Kentucky, well, I would disabuse myself of that notion if I were you.
Let's take a quick look at the comparison between the Commodores and the 'Cats, courtesy of Statsheet.com:
| Rank and Records | UK | Vandy |
| RPI | #9 | #19 |
| Strength of Schedule | #93 | #48 |
| Overall | 19-1 | 16-3 |
| Conference | 4-1 | 5-0 |
| Home | 12-0 | 10-0 |
| Away | 3-1 | 4-1 |
| Neutral | 4-0 | 2-2 |
| Top 25 | 4-0 | 2-1 |
| RPI Top 50 | 4-0 | 2-0 |
As far as how Vanderbilt's season has gone, they have quality wins against the Missouri Tigers (12), the St. Mary's, Calif. Gaels (42), the Florida Gators (47) and the Tennessee Volunteers (22). Their major losses were versus the Cincinnati Bearcats (57), the Illinois Fighting Illini (50) and the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers (153). Vanderbilt also beat the South Carolina Gamecocks on the road, something UK could not do.
More after the jump. Just like last time, I did the first part and Ken did the second half. For more on the Vanderbilt Commodores, be sure to visit the SB Nation Vanderbilt blog, Anchor of Gold.
We will begin the analysis by the usual look at the dashboard. Don't forget, this thing is interactive.
Four Factors Analysis
Looking at the Four Factors over the length and breadth of this season, you'd have to say UK has an advantage. But ...
Take your left-hand slider and move it over to the last five games, which represents the SEC season for Kentucky and all but one game of it for the Commodores. Notice how the red line on offensive efficiency is on a nice, upward climb for the Commodores, slightly exceeding the blue line of the Wildcats in game 4. That was our game versus Arkansas, and their game versus Tennessee. Who do you suppose has the tougher defense of those two? If you said, "Tennessee," give yourself a star, and that game was in Thompson-Boling Arena. This is a warning for the Wildcats.
Moving down to defensive efficiency, we see that UK has been consistently better in DE, and significantly better in the last two games. This is a very positive development for Kentucky, and even if we thought poorly of their effort against the Gamecocks, the Wildcats played a solid defensive game.
Over the last 5 games, the Commodores are shooting a higher effective field goal percentage than Kentucky, taking better care of the basketball, and getting to the line at a higher rate. The only one of the Four Factors UK is winning over the last five games is offensive rebounding percent. That's probably not enough to get it done tomorrow, so some of these stats are going to have to swing the other way.
Defensively, the story is reversed. Kentucky is holding teams to a significantly lower eFG% than the Commodores, creating more turnovers, and sending opponents to the line at a lower rate. Meanwhile, Vanderbilt is doing a better job of taking care of their defensive glass than the Wildcats are. Shocking, but true.
Finally, both teams over the last five games have shot similar percentages from three, and play at a similar tempo. Vanderbilt shoots more three point shots per field goal attempt than Kentucky does, and plays bench players slightly more minutes than the 'Cats.
Statistically, this is a great matchup. It looks like Vanderbilt's offense versus the Kentucky defense on paper, but that is just a bit misleading due to the lousy 89.7 OE registered by the 'Cats versus the Gamecocks. In reality, this is two of the best offensive teams in the SEC going head-to-head, and neither one is going to back down from the pace or the passion.
This has the statistical makings of a classic, and on paper, it looks like UK's best opponent so far.
Roster
Individual Statistics
Position Analysis: Point Guard
Senior Vanderbilt point guard Jermaine Beal may not be Devan Downey dominating, but he is a solid scoring point (13.7 points per game), who runs the Commodore offense with aplomb. In his third year as the point guard starter, Beal, with a 2.31 assist/turnover ratio (60 assists to 26 turnovers), ranks fourth in the SEC.
The 6'3" Beal is quick enough to penetrate and get the ball to the rim, or pull up and make the mid-range jumper -- He makes 55.8% of his two-point shots. Beal leads the 'Dores in shots taken with 202, 26 more than Jeffery Taylor, so his defender (Wall, Bledsoe, or Liggins) must be mindful of the drive, as well as Beal's penchant for taking the three-point shot, both on the break, and out of Vanderbilt offensive sets. He makes the trey at a respectable rate, 35.8% (39-109), and ranks 10th in the SEC in made threes per game with 2.1.
Kentucky's John Wall has been slumping of late. Over his last five games, the talented freshman is shooting only 40.0% from the field (26-65), and over the last six games has dished out 28 assists (4.7 per game), and committed 23 turnovers (3.8 per game). Not horrific numbers, but when compared to his first 12 games at the Big Blue helm (98 assists to 53 turnovers), it is clear he isn't performing as admirably as he did earlier in the year.
Advantage: Draw
Position Analysis: Shooting Guard
Vanderbilt shooting guard, 6'3" sophomore Brad Tinsley, has suffered a bit in the 2009-2010 season from not making shots as consistently as last season. Although he remains a threat from long-range, Tinsley has made only 31.7% of his trey tries on the season (20-63).
Tinsley is capable of driving to the basket, but he scores the majority of his 7.1 points per game from the perimeter, and on mid-range jumpers.
UK's Eric Bledsoe, at 6'1", is at a slight height disadvantage when compared to Tinsley, but Kentucky's freshman two-guard has a distinct advantage as far as athleticism is concerned. If Vandy coach Kevin Stallings opts to zone the 'Cats, and we all know that is the likelihood, Bledsoe will have a real opportunity to be a zone buster, not with is outside shot, but with his ability to drive to the rim. When Bledsoe is on Tinsley's side of the court, look for the UK guard to take advantage of his quickness, and dribble-drive ability, to get into the lane, and possibly pile up the fouls on Vandy's starting shooting guard.
Advantage: Kentucky
Position Analysis: Power Forward
Andre Walker, Vandy's 6'7" sophomore power forward, has been making shots: 53-86 (61.6%). While only averaging 6.3 points per game, Walker doesn't shoot often, but when he does he's proved to be quite efficient. Walker isn't a three-point threat (zero treys taken), but he is athletic around the basket, and he's second on the team with 5.5 rebounds per game.
Kentucky's Patrick Patterson has suffered from a severe lack of offensive production over his last three games -- Patterson has taken an average of 6.3 shots per game in that span, after averaging 10.9 shots per game through the first 17 games of the year ... Patterson is averaging 8.7 points per game over his last three, after averaging 16.6 points per game through is first 17 games ... Patterson is averaging 5.7 rebounds per game over his last seven games, after averaging 9.0 rebounds through the first 13 games of the year.
Kentucky must find a way to include Patterson in the offense. Whether that means bringing him closer to the basket, or getting him the ball in position to score on the perimeter; Patterson's role needs to be more clearly defined, and this game with the Commodores would be a great time to start.
Advantage: Kentucky
Position analysis: Small Forward
Jeffery Taylor, Vandy's leading scorer at 14.1 points per game, should prove to be quite a challenge for Darius Miller, and any other Wildcat given the assignment of stopping the talented swing player. While not a threat from the perimeter, Taylor is athletic enough to put the ball on the floor, and get to the basket. He is third in the SEC in field goal percentage, making 54.5% of his shots.
On Tuesday night, UK's Darius Miller reverted to performing his now-infamous disappearing act versus South Carolina, leaving UK with nearly zero production out of the three-spot. UK coach John Calipari needs Miller to be more assertive both offensively and defensively, if this group of 'Cats are to reach their full potential.
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Position Analysis: Center
Vanderbilt's A.J. Ogilvy, after a rough start to the season (he was averaging single-digit points until the end of December), has bounced back nicely. He's raised his scoring average to 13.8 points per game, and once again he's become a real presence in the paint, averaging 6.1 rebounds and 1.7 blocks per game.
At times Ogilvy will venture away from the basket, but his bread is buttered in the painted area, where he possesses athletic moves to the rim, and an ability to get off shots while being closely guarded.
UK's DeMarcus Cousins, coming off a 27 point performance against South Carolina, has been just short of spectacular for the 'Cats. His plethora of moves around the basket have enabled him to become the 'Cats' number one scoring option. Although he needs to become a better post passer, and not force the issue as much, Cousins' continuing improvement will be challenged Saturday by a strong Vanderbilt defensive post presence, and collapsing help. How the big man responds will go a long way in determining the outcome of the game.
Advantage: Slight Kentucky
Bench Analysis
John Jenkins is the main man coming off the Vanderbilt bench. Averaging starters minutes at 20.7 minutes per game (10.8 points per game), Jenkins, a 6'4" freshman shooter, is making 48.9% of his three-point attempts, and ranks fourth in the SEC with 2.4 made threes per game. Jenkins is skilled in handling the ball as well, and has the hops to get to the rim and finish. He's a dangerous scorer who must be accounted for on the break, and in the Vandy offensive sets.
Festus Ezeli, as 6'11" sophomore center is another paint presence for the 'Dores. He won't score much, 4.4 points per game, but in is 13.2 minutes per game, he averages 1.5 blocks (7th in the SEC), and 3.2 rebounds.
Lance Goulbourne (6'8" swing), Steve Tchiengang (6'9" forward), and Darshawn McClellan (6'7" forward) round out the Vandy bench. All big men, they provide Vandy coach Kevin Stallings with paint fouls to give, and strong rebounding, while averaging a combined 31 minutes per game.
Darnell Dodson, DeAndre Liggins, Daniel Orton, and Perry Stevenson will once again come off the bench for the 'Cats. This group hasn't been offensively productive for Calipari's team, although Liggins and Orton play solid defense. Dodson, UK's designated three-point threat, has been anything but, lately -- Since going 6-10 from long-range versus Hartford on January 29, Dodson has made only 7-28 treys (25.0%). Dodson averaged 8.7 points per game through his first 11 games, 3.6 points per game in his last six games.
Advantage: Vanderbilt
Overall analysis
After UK's first loss of the season on the road at Columbia, South Carolina, the 'Cats return to friendly, and I'm sure, rowdy Rupp Arena. We all get to find out if the 'Cats have the maturity and gumption to bounce back from defeat, and more importantly, return to the fast-track they were on prior to playing so poorly against the Gamecocks.
Vandy will come at the 'Cats with a variety of weapons, both perimeter-based, and interior centric. The 'Dores are truly a quad-threat offense, with Beal and Jenkins shooting away from the outside, and Ogilvy and Taylor pounding away in the paint. Kentucky must defend with a purpose, focusing on stopping Beal from penetrating, and ball-denying Ogilvy and Taylor on the blocks.
For UK, getting back to running the high-low offense would be a great start to beginning a new winning streak. The 'Cats have gotten away from what they do best, and the result has been less-than-stellar play lately, with the exception of the Arkansas game last Saturday. Furthermore, if UK is to stop Vandy's 10-game winning streak, rebounding the basketball on both ends of the floor will be a large priority for the 'Cats. And that goal can only be attained by positioning Patterson closer to the basket, instead of on the baseline,15-feet from the rim, or on the wing.
Rebounding is what cost UK at South Carolina, and it will cost them Saturday if they don't show an improvement. Vandy is long enough, athletic enough, and has enough shot-makers to snag a victory in Rupp, unless the 'Cats make better decisions and pound the glass.
The difference in this game, though, may very well be the home crowd, and their refusal to allow the 'Cats to lose.
Projected score: Kentucky 75 Vanderbilt 71
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good post
Wall’s efficiency and the rebounding were two variables in the loss that must be corrected…in addition to turnovers. Add including PP in a way that uses his talents…and I still see a close game. I think it will be both exciting and close.
Hubert Davis picked Vandy as the most impressive team in the nation this week…and Downey as the most impressive player of the week. Forgive my little paranoid soul if I hear that through a fog of Carolina blue. Maybe it ws his smile as he added Ky is number one “for now”
I am trying to think how many shirts I can wear tomorrow…knowing I have to do my part across the miles. Looking forward to the game…I find it hard now to watch a game without the ASOB thread…feels like I am included in a positive way with friends and family.
Good job guys
This is going to take a true team effort. Your dead on about PP. He must play inside more for us to have a chance in this game. Wall must start playing like the future #1 pick also. Lately he hasn’t even been playing like a first team All SEC player IMO. Vandy has nothing to lose because even if they do lose, they leave tied for first. This isn’t the same Vandy team that lost those 3 games earlier in the year. This is a game that will tell us just where we stand in the SEC. I am not going to be shocked if we find out tomorrow that we have a lot to work on.
Proud PPat????
Must say on the power forward we have to call it Vandy. By the numbers as of late PPat has suceeded his throne. If we don’t see him produce and defend… I’d hate to be right. I love PPat, but sometimes he goes through spats of just looking lazy. Really thought I would not see that from the man that should be and is the leader of the team. SC game proved me wrong. Take your charge and Lead your team. We are already proud of you PPat!!! Keep us proud of you.
Blood.... Blood... Blood makes the grass grow....and mine is BLUE!!!!
Let's test the validity of your comment ...
… that Vandy has an advantage at power forward. Note that I am using SEC games only, which include Patterson’s two worst performances of the season:
Patterson: 11.6ppg/6.6rpg/1apg/1bpg
Walker: 5.6ppg/7.4rpg/4.4apg/.6bpg
Hmm. Walker is averaging less than 1 more rebound, fewer blocks and six fewer points. He is a better passer, though, with four assists. This with the comparison rigged as heavily toward Walker as I could reasonably accomplish.
I’m afraid I’m going to have to take Patterson every time. Obviously if I used the season stats, it would be a lopsided no-brainer.
Patterson is never lazy, although he has been deferring far too much to his teammates, and has not been shooting the ball well lately. That will change today, I predict. We need to give the big guy a break and trust him to take care of business.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Patterson will be fine..
He wants this success as much as anyone who has ever played. I think you are right, and his style of leadership is to involve his team-mates.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
PPat on the news last night-
talked about all the negative facebook and twitter comments he had received after the S. Carolina game. He seemed really disturbed by it. I look for him to have a monster game today. GO CATS!!!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
can't believe they did that
I hope he changed his settings to only receive messages from “friends”
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Why would people
say things about one of the nicest Cat’s we have ever had?
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I don't know
But it’s the only time I ever saw Patrick that somber. I hope he comes out and takes over the game today!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
At least we know
the comments weren’t from real Cat fans.
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Stupid, is what they are
PPat does good things and that really irks me.
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Well I'm going
to wade to get the paper and mail.
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Through the snow or the branch?
I used to have a Burro (I know I spelled that wrong) that I would use to cross the branch to get to my car/mailbox when the branch is up! Laugh if you want, but people in Lexington paid $200,000 for $65,000 FHA punchout houses, while I bought literally hundreds of acres 25 miles away for way less. I have a bridge now.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
The sad part about all of this
Two – four (?) posts get the press. Hell, I just voted on Vandy’s blog that UK will win by ten. There were only 50 votes. Woohoo, feel the power. :)
No matter where you're at, there you are
I've attended many Wildcat games at Vandy-
And every time the upper ends of their gym, is nothing but Cat fans!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Sporting a nice catch there ukintn for your avatar....
But it makes me want fish to fix and eat….lol :-)
Cat fans are the greatest, IMO. Can I say that totally unbiased? Sure I can, maybe ;-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Thanks a2d2
A recent poster talked about catching smallmouth and got me fired up. I have cabin fever bad today. That’s me on the left with my wife’s cousin from Detroit. We were on Lake St. Claire, and I can’t wait till April to go back. Last spring they even took me to see the Pistons play the Bulls. It was great to see Tayshaun again. Got to see Derrick Rose play too!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
PPat vs PPat
Like I said love the man! I have just seen spurts where he has played less productively. This is from the last 2 years before this. That is why I said he seemed to be lazy. Call it loss of focus what ever you want. Not meaning to bash the man. He has class and brains…. come on a man graduating in 3yrs is not lazy. Also, he came back this year and could have left. Not a lazy thing to do by far. It was just disappointing to see it look like a BCG game for him. My largest contention was on leadership…. have not seen an interview or anything from him since the loss. It was my hope that he did dig into that big heart and dedicate better to his team.
Blood.... Blood... Blood makes the grass grow....and mine is BLUE!!!!
by kyarmymedic on Jan 30, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Big game today.
Today, all the euphoric conjecture about talent, youth, great Coach, bad Cuz, PPat, …great Wall should stop.
It’s bottom line time. Put up or shut up time. A loss and UK is down in the SEC by two games. They will not be the masters of their own destiny for an SEC championship which IS the first goal of this season IMO.
A loss means a losing streak.
No matter where you're at, there you are
Cats By A Few
Vandy will keep it close and may lead (periodically) throughout the game.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 30, 2010 8:28 AM EST reply actions
Vandy is going down.
Cats by 5. (We’re saving the beat down for the barn!!) ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 30, 2010 9:50 AM EST reply actions
Once again a great analysis guys!
Tru, have you noticed that the UK basketball page on SI.com is linking to ASoB regularly. Went and looked at the sitemeter it looks like it really is getting a good amount of traffic…
It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
by floundringaround on Jan 30, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions
I'm not suprised..
It’s the only site on the web where you can truly talk about UK sports without the name-calling and hate. While everyone claims that racism is bad, Kentucky as a state, the University, and it’s fans seem to be fair game for just outright vitriol that in a real-world setting would be considered hate-crimes, if directed at any other group. On top of that, I give props to the high quality of the effort by the creators of ASOB.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Excellent job
the first game of the KY SEC second session, after the L. I believe we will take care of business, however the very realistic analysis has me a little sketchy going into this one, even if it is at Rupp.
Go out and have a great game Patrick, we know you are the man.
Let’s go WILDCATS!
You had me until I saw what your view of Andre Walker
Your numbers are great, but they break down when you describe what Andre does for Vandy.
Walker is the glue for this team and I predict he will be the difference maker if Vandy does win at Rupp.
You also make the statement that UK is everyone’s superbowl, and for most teams that is correct. Just remember that you have lost 4 of 6 to Vandy in the last 3 years and any win this year, or while Cal is there, may be a vacated win in the future.
Go Dores
Keeping your wins
History says otherwise
by ThatDanRyan on Jan 30, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
a2
did you get bad weather?
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I don't like it either
Here in western Ky. We have about 5". At least we missed the freezing rain like last year at this time.
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In Middle TN
We got 5 inches of snow and an inch of freezing rain on top of it… Not good.
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
wow
for once it’s good to be Yankee. Nothing up north of our river
No matter where you're at, there you are
Sunny Skies, Chilly But Nice Here In Chicago
You may keep the snow and ice down South.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 30, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Been shoveling, but thinking about embracing it....lol
plenty to sled in. How about you 70?
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I don't need
any to sled in. I’m sitting inside and waiting for the Cat’s!! Go Big Blue!
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I don't need it....lol
and wouldn’t miss the Cats for anything. GO BIG BLUE !!!
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Please spell out how we will have our wins vacated?
When the no.1 program of all time gets the best recruits, it should not be suprise…
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
Wow
Just goes to show that winning can turn normally good fans into the same type of a$hole fan that every other school has to deal with. Enjoy your 3 season run on UK during the UK down period. As great a coach (and person) as Stallings is, it will not last much longer.
Why so offended by the Walker analysis? I just read it again and it was all positive. Just looking for a reason to make a vacated comment? See first sentence.
Cincy
He joined 10 mins ago. He probably will leave before Tru gives him the Axe!
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I'm expecting to see a new team come out today
Now that they know they can’t magically pull out a win in the final seconds, I look for our Cats to play harder and not let up at any point during the game.
I’m tellin ya….the USC loss is just what this team needed. Definitely a “blessing in disguise”.
Doug Gottlieb on Espn
Just gave a very favourable discourse on Big Cuz. I’m shocked.
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unfortunately he just told everyone what we are REALLY up to.....lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
unfortunately he may have pointed out why Patterson's numbers are down by accident
IF you noticed, one of the things that made the play work was Patterson clearing out, clearly not in a position to expect the ball out of that set unless we reset and rotate, or Cousins passes out to the high post.
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
sorry for the upper case if
"Ignorance, I can fix, stupidity, well that's another matter!"-82nd Airborne NCO
I know exactly what you mean.......that is one of the reasons I think they should be
working side by side in the post until someone proves they can beat us with them both down in there. I know it’s not Cal’s DDMO…..just seems a waste not to play those two that way, unless you want to put
Orton down there with DeMarcus and let Patterson go to the 3
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
Doug Gottlieb stole my wallet
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
I saw that-
Wish he’d quit giving away our secrets! lol
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Don't know about the rest of ya...
But I’m ready for the Cats to put an old fashioned butt-whooping on Vandy!! LOL On the order of a “pull their pants down and spank ’em in public” type…
If your wings don't sweep....
Agree on the home cooking-
At the end the ball was definitely out of bounds on W. Virginia. Anyway Duke is way behind at the half against G’town. It’s shaping up to be a great day!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Late Arrival
Back in my home, back in regular Internet communication, after a week in the comarca (think Native American reservation) exploring the Ngöme Bugle indigenous culture where the only Internet was courtesy of the Peace Corps representative. What little time was devoted primarily to managing my portfolio in a particularly capricious stock market (this has some relevancy), thus I had lots of ASoB catching up to do. Having read the hundreds of comments since the season’s first loss and before today’s attempt to halt the losing streak at one I do have a comment or two.
A very, very perfunctory research of notable upsets reveal that there is one factor that appears in nearly all: the upsetter out-rebounds the favorite plus the resultant more shot attempts, e.g. SC 44-40 rebounds, 64-57 FGA, which implicitly suggests that the more mentally focused team wins. A recent example is the KU loss to UT. I know for a fact that KU had circled the UT@Knoxville as their first stern test thus when UT had four players suspended the Jayhawks let down their intensity and considered it a walk-on win. The result of course is an inspired Orange comes away with an improbable victory over the #1 team. I would conclude that the team that wins the battle of the boards and/or puts up the most shots today wins.
As for Patrick Patterson, I previously asked if it was time to be concerned regarding his performance, and his production versus ‘Cocks only heightened my concern. As for the above mentioned relevancy of stock market trading I would point out that technical traders note trends and one of the most indicative is that of lower highs and lower lows. Charting Patterson’s performance surely shows such a pattern. If he was a stock he would surely be rated at best a hold, more likely a sell. Engenders one to wonder how his stock is faring on the NBA market. Let’s all pull for him to reverse the trend and return to Blue chip status.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson
I think we ALL are pulling for PPat, WW
Maybe he isn’t necessarily wanting a high NBA market value this year. He may love college and want to hang around a little longer than planned. I don’t know, just thinking out loud, I suppose. :-)
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I know, but couldn't
he still play with more classes? That I do not know, that is why I ask. :-)
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Yeah, he can...
Would have to attend Grad School. Not that uncommon, alot of the 5th year Seniors do that to retain eligibility on the court.
If your wings don't sweep....
Thanks Eagle
Much appreciated. :-) So……he could play 2 more years if he chose?
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No...
You have 4 years of “athletic eligibility”… Where the term “5th Year Senior” comes from is where the student athlete redshirts for year, generally for a medical reason. There may be other stipulations that I’m not aware of but that’s the most common one. If they follow their degree plan, they would graduate in 4 years, but have only played 3. Hence, enrolling in Grad school to play the 4th year…
If your wings don't sweep....
I thought that after I posted my second question....still, thanks !!
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It would seem logical that he does have another season left as long as he is enrolled in class...
like grad school. However, the NCAA being what they are (ask ABC) I am not sure.
My oldest daughter is in Grad School-
And she has retained the right to keep spending my money another year… :-P
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
HAHAHA
How much did you get? I have around 7, bit not IN Berea. :-)
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LOL
I could see Wineman hitting Google Maps and trying to figure out where “20 miles south of Lex” is…
If your wings don't sweep....
Sorry wineman....the quotes was a emphasis on your ID only :-)
Not sure how that looked.
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Last time I was there it was fine and dandy....
It is about the same temp as Berea….lol
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Jessamine Co?
Chrisman Mill winery is VERY near my home.
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you must be nearby
Ever heard of Pollard?
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Off subject-
Duke got beat!! And Pilgrim is playing hard for Ok. State…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
What are the ESPN'ers saying about dUKe losing? Just wondering :-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Not sure
But Pilgrim is really impressive. Makes me wonder why Coach Cal didn’t have a spot for him?
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
watch what has happened for the whole game with Mizzou.....Pilgrim is not very fast
he plays very hard….but he is not quick with his moves on the inside
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OK
I’ve just seen the end. He has 19 points and 8 boards. And it’s the only time I’ve seen him play…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
he is a lot bigger part of the OSU offense than he would have been here
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Grad Students Allowed
4 years of athletic eligibility allowed, graduation does not affect that, thus Patterson could graduate in May and still be eligible in 2010-11 season as long as he’s enrolled as a full time student. It has been and is being done several times in several sports. Unless there is a reversal in Patterson’s recent production I would think his likelihood of a first-round draft pick is in jeopardy.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson
Exactly right.
5 years to play 4 is the rule.
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