We Regret To Inform You That Your Team Was Embarassed Because They Were Stupid
by Glenn Logan on Sep 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT
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PrintWell, that and the fact that the second string of Florida could have handled Kentucky by at least two touchdowns, especially with 9 penalties for 69 yards. That would make a nice rushing stat for any halfback.
Congratulations to Florida for an impressive win. They dominated UK's hapless team from start to finish in every meaningful statistic. They were far, far superior. Enough said.
Sugar coating this thrashing is worthless. UK was utterly inferior in every meaningful way against Florida. Not only athletically, and talent-wise, but with respect to execution. This was undoubtedly the worst game I have watched UK play since the 63-3 thrashing by this same team last year, and execution-wise, it may have been even worse.
To be fair, nobody, including yours truly, thought UK had a chance against Florida. Florida has more five-star players on their team right now that Kentucky has had in the last 20 years combined. Yes, UK is not as inferior as they have been in the past, but you never would have known it tonight. After holding Florida to a field goal with a dramatic stand on their first possession, Kentucky self-destructed very much like they did last year at The Swamp, including yet another blocked punt for a Florida touchdown. Second verse, same as the first.
I really don't feel like trashing Kentucky too much for this game, it's too much like kicking a helpless person when they are down. It was a loss from the moment the coin went up. The Wildcats were nervous, and even a little scared, and it showed. Florida just took our manhood.
I really do wonder what Brooks has left to work with after this devastation. If anything, this loss was worse than the one last year, even if the score was not as lopsided. It isn't that Kentucky is really bad, it's just that they don't seem to have any identity on offense. Defensively, UK was unable to handle the faster Gators, and Tim Tebow simply ran amok until a naked blitz sent him out of the game. Hopefully, he has no serious injuries. It's bad enough to lose to Florida, but it would be miserable to have seriously wounded Superman.
In the end, this game was pure misery from start to finish. It reminded me very much of the basketball game we played at South Carolina last year -- embarrassing, season-damaging, and irredeemable. If Brooks & Co. thought that we were ready to compete in the SEC, this game should disabuse them of that fallacious notion.
With Alabama coming in next week followed by a road trip that takes us through Columbia and Athens, there is not much reason for optimism anytime soon in the Big Blue Nation. Kentucky was either exposed tonight for the frauds that they are, or just had one of those really bad performances that sometimes happens even to the best football teams.
I wish I could believe the latter.
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We need a quarterback
I’m not one to jump on the bashing wagon after a loss but I really think this season will get ugly fast if we can’t have better performance from the most important position on the field. Hartline is a good kid who tries hard but, like a certain former basketball coach’s son who played point guard, he is not up to what it takes to excel at the SEC level of competition. Can’t knock his heart and effort, it just takes more.
Michael Porter is available. ;)
I hear he’s decent at football.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 27, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey!
He could do a Paulus! Somebody get me his number. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually He's Good At Both Sports
Porter was 3x All-Stater in Calif basketball.
And 2x All-Stater in football – led state of Calif in interceptions as HS junior.
He played DB not QB though.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 28, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i will believe the latter...
for at least a week, maybe two at the most….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
and i forgot to add...
at that point, it will be time for midnight madness….
unfortunately, my kids got a good lesson in why “we” are basketball fans first……
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Abuse And Disabuse
I would hope that tonight’s abuse – physically and psychologically – of the Cats by the Gators would disabuse those who contend among other things that: 2 and 3* athletes can compete with 4 and 5*, that the UK program has made anything more than token progress in competing in the SEC, that the UK coaching staff is up to the task of basic game planning, organization and motivation, that Joker Phillips is the best coach to guide the program into a future with promise, and that UK will ever be anything other than a basketball school.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
The Thomas Jefferson quote was ignorant, because the U of K Athletic Fund puts money into the school and does not take it away. Any talk about funding is irrelevant in these boards.
by 502wildcat1975 on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Regular ASoB Readers
would know that the Jefferson quote in my sig has been up for weeks and has no relevance to UK sports.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
by Wild Weasel on Sep 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.....ol WW has that one up there all the time....just like mine.....
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The quote can be added to your profile and pops up with every post
See below…
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Perhaps.
My chief reservation with Phillips is that outside of Andre Woodson’s senior season (and the latter part of the junior year) that Cats’ offense has largely been impotent. That the offense continues to be without an identity for all of last season and now into this season is a striking indictment on Phillips.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Sep 26, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rupp Or Bryant
UK made its decision in early 1950’s.
Sporadic football success ever since.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 27, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
total dissapointment
it was the penalties at first and i understude that but ther was a time when the coaching staff gave up on this team like 4th and 8 from the 50 down 31 to 7 and they punt instead of going 4 it what are u trying 2 do win or not it was our only chance
by 502wildcat1975 on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Overreaction, Tru
Really, what did we think was going to happen? Hartline is who he is, and we’ll have to live with that. He’ll never be great, but he’ll service us against the weaker teams. I thought they did well after the shell-shock, and Alabama won’t run past us like Florida.
by ukbulldog on Sep 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wanna Bet?
Bama has better running backs – although not quite as good an OL – than Gators and a more physical defense. UL was the first indication of just how porous is the UK defense, i.e. when Calvin Harrison, a safety, leads the team in tackles you know there are problems – perhaps both personnel and coaching. I prefer the latter as the main culprit.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
by Wild Weasel on Sep 26, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
agree WW
when a safety is leading tackler on a team that gives up 350+ yards rushing, you do not need to see the score to know it was ugly.
also agree with your post above – we have NOT made ANY strides toward competing in the sec – 1-23 ex vandy vs SEC east = UNCOMPETITIVE….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
In (some) defense.
I think that UK has made some progress. The teams of the past few seasons have been more competitive and consistent than the teams of the Mummer, Morriss or early Brooks eras. While UK has improved somewhat, the rest of the teams in the SEC have grown by leaps and bounds. The best two conferences in the country annually tend to be the SEC West and the SEC East. It is hard to compete against the best. Painfully so.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Sep 26, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I think
We might be looking at BCS if we were in the Big East. Florida seriously has NFL talent across the board. I want to know how we get more of that talent.
by ukbulldog on Sep 26, 2009 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
will partially agree...
while i concede that we seem to be deeper and faster (have heard the story of how many sub 4.5 40 runners brooks has recruited ad naseum) and you are right that we have gotten better – however, living in the heart of SEC country, it is clear others have grown more.
while i have defended brooks’ 3 straight bowl wins as legit i will have to say that scheduling has been in our favor vs when mumme, morris etal were here. we no longer play indiana every year (which is not good a good football team, but is at least as good as the 3 non louisville OC games we now have) and winning 3 straight over UL says as much about their fall as our rise (imo).
also add the 12th game – which has had the impact of taking us from 5-6 to 6-6, 9 (i think) SEC bowl tie-ins, and the ability to count a 1AA game toward 6 wins every so many years and our post season accomplishments are not as crystal clear as it might seam.
I do not expect uk to compete for a NC in football, but it sure would be nice to go .500+ in conference play every 2 or 3 years and challenge for a sec east title every 5 years or so….then maybe we get lucky and go to a sec championship game once every 10 to 12 years
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What if they do?
Did we have Bama as a win before the season? It’s only game three, and our quarterback play needs to improve for sure, but we don’t look like old UK football to me.
by ukbulldog on Sep 26, 2009 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
neither UF or BAMA
were wins in my book – however, i was thinking if we were competitive, it might mean we split the auburn/usc road trip and be 3-3 going into second half of season. also, if competitive here, it might mean we beat UT.
however, watching us (and seeing miss state hang with lsu), it is easy to get discouraged – only thought is that lsu maybe over rated having barely beat miss state and vandy.
also was hoping being competitive would put us in a good recruiting position – think any recruit that was in the stands tonight wants to sign with UK?
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Recruiting worries me, too
What do we have to do to get players like those away from big time schools?
by ukbulldog on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would sincerely hope that we weren't foolish enough to invite any recruits to the Florida game
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Calvin Harrison
Micah Johnson led UK in tackles vs. U of L with 8.0. Harrison was fourth with 5.0.
by Ken Howlett on Sep 27, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ive gotta agree with bulldog on this one. u said that u didnt feel like thrashing kentucky but then u went on to rip the cats to shreds. yea it was a bad game, yea it was embarassing, but its not like it was unexpected. to say that nobody should be optimistic about the fooball program is a little over the top. u have to understand we weren’t facing some random team out there tonight, we were facing the most talented team in the nation and one of the most talented sec teams in the last couple decades.
OK folks.....we suck....we know it....
now what do we do about it right away?? We have Bama and a whole host of teams that are now going to be looking to kick our backsides….they now know if they hit us hard and fast we fold like a cheap suit….so what’s the immediate answer?
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Silver Linings....
1) We may have been embarred, but at least we were not ranked No. 6 (CAL) and beaten by an unranked team.
2) UL lost at Utah….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
Randall Cobb Tweet
embarrassin somethin gotta change real quick…
Hope that’s not an indication of a QB controversy.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
don't need a tweet to know
that this game could start some issues….we got one week to get competitive so we can go into auburn/usc with some confidence…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha.
Well, at minimum we need to rethink our offensive strategy, whatever that is.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The First Change In Strategy
Should be to rethink the Joker Phillips decision.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
have not seen any reason that it should have been made...
am open minded, but davie made some comments during the game about why a ‘coach in waiting’ in general is not a good idea.
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Sep 26, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Criticizing a head coach
before he’s ever coached a game in that position is unfair, even by the low standards Kentucky fans set in that regard. There are a multitude of reasons why the product on the field last night may not be representative of Joker as head coach.
Right.
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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong
I thought his title is ‘Head Caoch of the Offense’? Shouldn’t that lay at least some of the responsibiblities at his door step?
But since we have an underlining in Randy Sanders as offensive coordinator, l bet it stopped with him as far as the game plan.
Equal Number
There are at least as many negative aspects of last night’s game for Phillips as there are positive. In fact, considering the formulation and execution of the offensive game plan in this game and others, plus the continuing inability to recruit virtually any higher rated players, I see little to recommend Phillips as the leader of a resurgent program. Many more performances on national television accompanied by derision by the announcers and the program will reverse the modicum of progress attained in the last few years.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
by Wild Weasel on Sep 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE 100%
I truelt believe this is the only way to remotely begin to turn around our recruiting situation and start trying to build a team that can compete. We need a Coach with a ’name." Doesnt have to be a huge name, I get that, I know who we are. All the name Joker Phillips is going to mean to people is “more of the same.”
I’m sorry. That’s just the way I feel.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 27, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
See above.
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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Hartline
was not out there trying to arm tackle Tim Tebow and letting him make the defenders look inept.
Mike Hartline was not blocking on the punt that got blocked.
Mike Hartline did not let Aaron Hernandez look like Dallas Clark.
There is tons more blame to go here than just Hartline, folks
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Coach Brooks does his best sailor impression in q1
At least every time cameras were on him he was yelling you’re sh.t..g me, he dropped the f-bomb at least once. His players looked like dear in headlights. Granted the headlight was a fully loaded semi, but shouldn’t he have tried something to stop the bleeding? I don’t want to bash the guy, but the occasion called for something other than a less than poetic tirade. Perhaps some support and positive thinking were in order in this particular situation. Inspire, coach, inspire.
(At the very least, Henry V’s pre-game speech at Agincourt. lol).
No matter where you're at, there you are
I was listening to the game on the radio
and one of the reporters was going live from near the huddle and said something to the effect of, “Well, I’m walking away from the huddle so we dont overhear some of the language being used by Coach Brooks right now. He is NOT a happy man.”
I thought that was pretty funny.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 27, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't a happy man
but he didn’t coach at that point. He just cussed. Those kids were lost. You should have seen their body language. I’m more of a basketball fan. When lesser teams come out against UK BB, they’re usually high on adrenaline and excitement. It usually wears off, of course. But this football team had none of that. Is that normal in College Football? I doubt it. Kids are kids… the team was ill prepared, inspiration-wise.
No matter where you're at, there you are
Nobody gets inspired...
… down 31 points in the first quarter against a vastly superior team.
About all you can do at that point is cuss, and I think we all did our share (speaking for myself and Coach Brooks, anyway). :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Won't Say I Told You So But...
This game really does show how UK is closer to Vandy than to Florida,Georgia and yes even Tenn. And I see that some have already jumped ship and or the UK bandwagon. My question is why are you surprised with the domination that transpired? Folks as much as you may hate to admit it,Florida is a juggernaut right now and they will beat a lot of good teams like that. And UK is a decent team. Just not in UF’s class by a long shot.And I will say this again too. If UK really wants to play with the big boys of the SEC,Rich Brooks/Joker Phillips won’t get them there. If I were the AD,I would thank Coach Brooks for what he has done,then drive up I-75 and offer Brian Kelly of Cincy a wad of cash. That’s the kind of coach this program needs.
Great hospitality
Well, not much needs to be said about the game.
We had a great time in Lexington. The fans were warm and welcoming even after the contest was concluded. We welcome you and will try to match your hospitality in Gainesville next year.
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by Gatorpilot on Sep 27, 2009 8:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So what did Tim Tebow have to say laid out on the Commonwealth turf...
.
according to an article in the Herald-Leader, it was this:
Though it appeared Tebow might have been unconscious and he was lying motionless, Meyer said that when he got to him on the Commonwealth turf the QB was conscious and able to move.
“He never lost any feeling. … He was asking ‘Did I hold onto the football?’” the Florida coach said. “Typical Tebow.”
This is but another example of why this kid is a winner. Of the highest order. Anyone who cannot appreciate Tebow, both on and off the field, is a short-sighted fool.
It is just too bad that he plays for a team that I generally don’t like—- except during Bowl Season!
Good luck to you guys.
by Sonic on Sep 27, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Hogwash
I was at the game less than 30 yards from where Tebow was laying motionless on the field. Urban Meyer walked onto the field and Tebow never twitched a muscle for at least two minutes after he got there. Then I saw his right foot wiggle a bit and he was up a couple minutes after that.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Splitting Hairs....
aren’t you, chirop?
I can’t speak to Meyer’s account, or Mark Story’s reporting of it, but I stand by my statement 100%.
Can you believe there was actually a UK fan on the local news that said the hit on Tebow was “better than winning” ?? I have heard of “small victories” before, but that is pretty sad.
by Sonic on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That isn't a small victory.
It’s a sentiment expressed by a small mind.
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You put that...
even better than I did, Tru.
I could not believe that when I saw it on the local news.
We are going to get the chance to “win with class” this winter and next spring.
In the meantime, we need to “lose with class”, during the fall.*
’* And then try to stop making such a damn habit of it.
by Sonic on Sep 28, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing against Tebow and I take no pleasure from his injury
I’m just saying that anyone who says he was alert and awake as he was laying there on that field is selling something.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
I think he was out.
His breathing looked very regular. He may not have been out for long, but I think he was out.
I just hope he has no lasting repercussions from that.
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No problem
Meyer’s account seemed pretty normal coming from a coach—- I don’t really expect complete accuracy from “coach speak” on that type of thing.
Now, if the professional medical personnel were inaccurate about the actual events, that would be entirely different— those guys/gals are the ones with the responsibility of making sure Tebow is able to play before giving him the green light.
by Sonic on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I will take your comment as heartfelt, not patronizing, lol. I think UK’s FB team is better than it looked. We just have to play you guys every year. The upper echelon in the SEC is in a different universe. Could UK afford a charter jet for sick players? Where I come from in KY farm country we’d have a hard time chartering a bloomin bus.
No matter where you're at, there you are
Former is correct
I am not trying to be patronizing in any way. The fans were great and we felt very welcome. That is an important part of football. And wow, what a beautiful place… we noticed there are hardly any billboards on the roads which enhances the beauty. Those rolling hills and green fields were amazing. You obviously take great pride in your stadium (spotless) as well.
Oh, and I got to stand outside of Rupp — we had some people staying at the Hyatt next door. Couldn’t get in, but wow, what a monstrous arena!
Best of luck from here on out, sincerely.
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I didn't think you were trying to be patronizing -- just messing with you.
Sports is fun. Even rivalries can be fun if you’re with the right group of people. Some of my happiest Reds games was when I sat around Cubs fans when they played the Reds up here in Cincinnati. Great people. It ultimately doesn’t amount to a hill of beans anyway - except for UK Basketball, that’s different. lol.
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Correction .... 5
“This was undoubtedly the worst game I have watched UK play since the 63-3 thrashing by this same team last year”
We had 5 last year …..
Didn’t want to blame individuals (all around disaster) …. this team was not mentally ready to compete … They played a much superior team but for whatever reason (lack of leadership form the coaching staff maybe?) they just didn’t show up to play.
Two Knockout Blows
Larry Vaught gets it right. Wonderful and manful that Brooks takes responsibility but the real story will be in how Cats are prepared for an equally talented Bama.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
Indeed.
This next week will be a test of character. We’ll find out if this team has any, or is ready to pack it in.
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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
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