The Big Blue Daily Mail -- The Eve of the Cards vs. the Cats

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 8:48 AM EDT in News Comment 57 comments

I want everyone to know that I turned down a day of golf on Saturday to watch this game. That's a big deal for me, and it shows just how important I consider this contest. Kentucky and Louisville will meet tomorrow at high noon in Commonwealth Stadium, and it is a big one for both teams.

I know that UK fans are confident and Cardinal fans are down right now. Kentucky seems to be getting stronger, and Louisville seems to be struggling with new players, new coaches, and they are not getting the highly-ranked problem children that the Cards brought in under Bobby Petrino. Louisville fans, taken together, have no confidence they can win this game, and UK fans are celebrating early.

That's a mistake for both sides. Just yesterday, the 16th ranked Kentucky Wildcats volleyball team lost to the unranked Louisville Cardinals. Louisville has owned that series over recent years, and that ownage just continued for another year. Don't think rivalry games matter? The best team always wins? Don't you believe it.

It will take a terrific effort for the 'Cats to overcome the Cards tomorrow, and I sure hope the team doesn't think this will be easy. Louisville will be coming at UK like a wounded tiger -- underdogs are usually more motivated and determined, at least at first, than the favorite. We should be prepared for Louisville's best shot early, because they are absolutely going to try to deliver it. If the 'Cats are on their heels, or not taking this game seriously, UK could be in serious trouble.

Now, for the news:

UK Basketball News

Catching Up on Gillispie v. University of Kentucky Athletic Association | Think Law
Good read to catch you up on what is happening with this suit.
Calipari’s college coach left him stranded for being late | Vaught's Views
Calipari was a kid, too, and this was a sharp lesson.
ZAGSBLOG " Kyrie Irving to Visit Kentucky Oct. 15 (UPDATED)
Interesting. I am not sanguine about Irving coming to UK.

UK Football News

Mark Story: U of L fans down but not out | KentuckySports.com
I must say, I think UK fans supported the Kentucky team better when we were on probation than Louisville supports theirs now, but that's just my perception.
Scouting the Louisville Cardinals - KENTUCKY OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE
Bozich misses the mark - Card Chronicle
College Football Nation - ESPN
Kentucky 24, Louisville 10: Remember when Rich Brooks couldn’t beat Louisville? He lost four in a row to the Cardinals starting out in the Bluegrass. But Kentucky has turned the tide in this battle for state bragging rights and won the last two. This is not one of Louisville’s better teams, and Brooks thinks his team has a chance to be really good. How good? We’ll know a little more Saturday and a lot more two weeks from now after Florida and Alabama make back-to-back trips to Commonwealth Stadium.

Keep your fingers crossed.
Tom Leach Productions -- Rich Brooks
Tom Leach Productions -- Chris Matthews
" Video: Mike Hartline after today’s practice John Clay’s Sidelines
Maxwell, Lentz are Game Captains - KENTUCKY OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE
Governor's Cup open thread image vote-off - Card Chronicle
Heh.

Other UK Sports News

Baseball America names Paxton a top pro prospect | KentuckySports.com
Great news for the baseball team.

NCAA Sports News

Miami Destroys Georgia Tech, Continues to Impress - SB Nation
Wow. I didn't think Ga. Tech was all that great, but Miami is really showing us that they are back.
Bruce Pearl Picks Up Commitment from Georgia Guard Trae Golden | Flagrant Fouls
If I recall correctly, Golden was a UK recruit at one time.
Tubby gets his first commitment for class of 2010 - The Daily Gopher
Good for Coach Smith.
ZAGSBLOG " Memphis AD Says SEC is First Choice
How 'bout that? But I don't think the SEC is looking to expand.

Other News of Interest

Secondhand smoke risks underestimated, survey finds | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal
Calipari helps with anti-smoking campaign.
Does The World Need Cheerleaders? - Cheerleaders - Deadspin
The answer, of course, is "Yes." But why should that be so? Because the pretty up the place, that's why. And oh, yeah, UK wins all the NCAA cheerleading competitions -- that's another good reason.

The Daily Schadenfreude

News Flash: Memphis hopes for Big Six move - College Football - Rivals.com
The only way Memphis gets in a BCS league is if that league throws someone else out.
This Week’s Separated at Birth " Over The Pylon
Heh.

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Great SLAM article Tru,

I had to drop what I was doing (reading all the links) and say so.
There was a point addressed that makes a lot of sense to me. If what Coach Cal has said holds to be true (no reason it shouldn’t) about this being his dream job, then maybe he was struggling to get to it and had to endure some shady things around him to achieve his goal of coaching at the best of the best.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Sep 18, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Give me a break.

UofL is not getting the problem players? That’s because they chose not to recruit them. It has nothing to do with a failure to ‘get’ them. We don’t want players running around punching girls or taking PED’s.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 12:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough.

I didn’t mean it in a pejorative way, necessarily. More in the way of an explanation.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, yeah ....

… and failing to recruit them is a good thing for U of L, in case that intention was not clear.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There is no question that Krag is not recruiting the Petrino players.

That is a good thing and for me, is the main reason I have given him a long leash.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Okay. Makes sense to me.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW

UL is the cleanest program in the country. Thanks for the update, Hoze.

by UKTimmy on Sep 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its not a matter of perfection.

It’s a matter of intent and purpose. I recognize & support Krag’s effort, which is a hell of a lot better (re: cleaner) than Petrino.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Being a Falcons fan

anything is better than Petrino.

by UKTimmy on Sep 18, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This whole Magette/Duke example is bogus.

From what I understand…and I could be wrong, because I got tired of reading all the whining and woe-is-us-we-are being-picked-on articles…the issues are completely different.

Duke was totally ignorant of these payments prior to playing the games. With Memphis, they were given a heads-up that there could or may be an issue. Memphis could have sat out Rose until the test questions were answered and had Rose cooperate to expedite the process (of course we know now why they didn’t choose cooperation). Memphis accepted this risk…it didn’t work out for them. Too bad. Boo-hoo. I’ll go back now and feel sorrow for those that are really cheated in life like wounded veterans and crack babies.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

You are conflating two different issues.

The Magette example is the same as the Marcus Camby affair, not the Rose situation. For a situation analogous to Rose, see Kansas’ Darrell Arthur.

It helps if you read closely, and quit griping about not wanting to read things because they offend your sense of whining. If you don’t want to put up with fans bemoaning perceived unfair treatment, try another blog.

Good grief.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Wrong (I think)

Wasn’t Camby being paid WHILE playing and Magette before? You would think that a coach would notice the hookers and gold bling on Camby, though. I guess it pays on looking the other way. Hmmmmm…do I see a trend here?

I don’t mind reading or hearing opposing views (ask the wife why I watch Oberman and Maddow routinely). It’s the volume, numbers, and repetitive nature of it all.

I find it sad that you take pleasure or pride in owning a site that leads in whining…but maybe I am not reading your comments close enough.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

OK....I have kept quiet long enough

Can we PLEASE just bounce this individual now once and for all??

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

are you kidding me?

You find it sad that Tru “take(s) pleasure or pride in owning a site that leads in whining” yet not at all sad that you personally frequent and post on said site all the time, when you are not even a freaking fan of team that we’re here discussing? What. the. F%*^. I think it’s nice that you are open to opposing viewpoints (I really do—not being sarcastic, few people seem able to do it anymore) but isn’t consistently visiting a UK fansite then bitching about fan whining similar to watching Olberman or Maddow and then whining about having to hear all that liberal stuff? We discuss UK stuff here. Period. It’s gonna come off like whining to outsiders, because it kind of is. That’s what fans do. They bitch, whine, crow, brag. If I were to visit a UL fansite (which, why would I do that??) I am quite sure I’d be put off by the exact same thing that I eagerly participate in here. If you don’t like the “volume, number or repetitive nature” of our complaints, why don’t you try visiting less often ; )

Honestly I’m not expressing a sincere wish—I generally enjoy Hoze’s….um, unique contributions, and I have to believe he’s jerking us around with some of the more are-you-kidding comments, such as the above.

by blue kentucky girl on Sep 18, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

No need to be so defensive.

My comments around whining were meant to be pointed at a much wider target than just ASOB. Just my opinion.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

okay, fine I'll work on not being so defensive

HOWEVER: “I find it sad that you take pleasure or pride in owning a site that leads in whining” does sound mighty like you were talking specifically about this site to me! If not, though, how’s about YOU work on being clearer and not so damn combative in your language, while I work on my defensiveness : )

See, character training all around!

by blue kentucky girl on Sep 18, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

'...woe-is-us-we-are being-picked-on articles'.

That was my original quote. Tru misconstrued and took it personal by writing:

‘…try another blog…’

From my perspective you both missed it (I would right that your are not reading close enough, but that would be rude). You can see that I was mentioning articles…not solely comments on this blog. I can understand why some may think this blog is the center-of-the-universe regarding UK, but they may have a wacked perspective.

…and I gave this clarity w/o feigning cursing. Feel welcomed to refer to me as a gentleman. :-)

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn right I took it personally ...

… because it was clearly directed at me and meant that way.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No it wasn't.

Unless you are taking ownership of all the daggone links you post. Besides, I happen to read other blogs as well….which is why I used the word ‘article’.

Regardless, if you took it that way….sorry.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh you are SUCH a gentleman dear : )

That is the very first adjective I think of to describe you. I await your suitcoat so that I might cross a treacherous puddle. I, however, LOVE cursing. It’s so expressive!!

by blue kentucky girl on Sep 18, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea....we only want bloggers who hold hands and sing kumbaya together.

For the rest of you: ‘Off with Your Heads’!!

We don’t want to hear nor tolerate alternative or even critical thoughts!!!!

Good grief. Quit thinking you represent the majority just because you lead in the number of posts. It’s wrongheaded, egotistical, and selfish.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

You aren't a blogger.

You are a commenter. Just like me. Tru is a blogger.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Sep 18, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Touche'.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Sep 18, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not wrong.

It is a distinction without a difference. And in that way, at least, it does compare to Rose.

The coach did notice. Calipari reported Camby to the NCAA. You would know that if you had actually been reading things.

You are reaching the end of the rope I have given you. Don’t fall off.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tru quit using big words.

What the heck is conflating?

by UKTimmy on Sep 18, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Conflating --

con·flate (kn-flt)
con·flat·ed, con·flat·ing, con·flates
1. To bring together; meld or fuse: “The problems [with the biopic] include . . . dates moved around, lovers deleted, many characters conflated into one” (Ty Burr).
2. To combine (two variant texts, for example) into one whole.

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh heh heh..........

Hoze, I really get a kick out of your comments. Thanks for the entertainment!

by slidemank on Sep 18, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey they used the phrase "shady player"

in the Slam article……who are they talking about?

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Sep 18, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

For the first time..

I visited the U of L blog.Of all the comments I read not one were from hozeking..I find that kinda funny…

by 59Bennett on Sep 18, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for being such a follower and admirer of mine.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I say we add Memphis to the SEC.....

it will make for some great rivalries….they get to stay in the South for their in-conference games. It does make Tennessee a kind of crowded state for the SEC, but it also lends to having another quality school in the conference. Teams will not have to go outside the conference to get closer games.I would also be in favor of bringing Cincinnati into the fold. They would make two respectable quality teams in both football and basketball. Maybe we should even talk to Notre Dame….lol……

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe we should even get Slive to talk to UL....

put them in the SEC where they can get a REAL feel for being in a conference and get some local rivalries going

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way

they’d probably kick out Miss State to make room for them. Our frequently best chance win in football and occasionally most competitive team in basketball. Just kick out Tennessee and make everybody smile.

by hoboat33 on Sep 18, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Once again, Memphis brings nothing to the table for the SEC.

by UKTimmy on Sep 18, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I will quote another famous movie when I say

“That might not be ENTIRELY accurate Mr.President” . Let’s look at this from an overall perspective for the league. There are not very many unaffiliated schools left out there. Leave off the military schools and Notre Dame, and there are none. There are a lot of people who see the SEC as a league of a lot of elite schools and a few patsies. Memphis does not fit into either of these categories. They are no pushovers in either football or basketball.They are not yet elite because they dont get to play elite programs regularly. Memphis is geographically ideally located, and has ties to a few of the schools already in the league. The SEC takes a back seat to the Big East only in size, because the level of play is overall better when you include historical statistics.The SEC could stand another couple of teams, and it would also help with this nonsense about our OOC schedule. Add a Memphis and another team of their quality, like Cincy, as I mentioned before, and you are in a win-win situation.

Will they struggle at first? Yes, most assuredly. Will they bring something to the table? That too is most assured. Both schools are moving their athletics programs in the right direction, and they qualify to be at least as good right now as the lower tier teams in this league. And they are better than some of those.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Memphis will not be in the SEC.

12 is the magic number for conferences in football, and the SEC isn’t going to throw anyone out.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They may not get in, but I honestly believe that this conference could stand

another 2 teams. 12 may be the magic number at this point, but that can change. If they had anything that would bring in a ton of money into the SEC, someone would look at it….but hey, que sera sera

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see it ever going beyond 12 teams

Its already tough enough having to rotate out teams from the West.

Even the Big East stays to a reasonable number in football.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 18, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't mess with magic

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Sep 18, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

Despite your reasons, i still dont see what they bring to the table. They have only been relevant in basketball with Calipari and Kirk. It remains to be seen if they will be relevant again. I see absolutely no relevance in football and face it we are a football conference. As far as UC, I can see them, but having lived in Cincy it would tear my guts out to see them in our conference. Their fans absolutely hate us, our team, and our state. They are also above the Mason Dixon line. Yuck.

by UKTimmy on Sep 18, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny...

It used to be that when I was gone for a bit and came back later in the day to see a big jump in post counts, I could count on a good Tubby argument complete with 40’s stats.

Now I generally count on some good back and forth with Hoze.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 18, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think I'm the only one who doesn't mind Hoze

All he is doing is trying to get people riled up…….It is kind of like the kid in school who eats glue to get attention. At first you pay attention, but after he eats dirt on the playground and craps his pants in art class…..you see that he is just trying to get noticed.

Moral of the story is, don’t let him rile you. I just laugh at it mostly.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Sep 18, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't really mind the ol' boy

all that much, either. We obviously fill a void that is otherwise missing in his life (and I say this in all seriousness as ASOB fills a void in my life, too — it’s called UK FANS!) and it’s nice that he has us. I shudder to think what he might do if he couldn’t vent here…….. (relax, I’m totally kidding Hoze). We are good Samaritans in a way. Good things happen to good people, you know. ; )

Now, if he would only be a little more appreciative of what we are fulfilling in his life, well, I think that would be really great, but, you can’t have everything, I guess. : )

by BigSkyCat on Sep 18, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Daggone.... One more post today.

I’ve thought I’ve admitted to this in the past.

What this post fulfills is the void up here in Chicago that college basketball fans face. That is a knowledgeable, passionate, crazy, unsatiable love of college basketball. There ain’t no fans like UK fans. Admitedly it’s both something to admire and poke fun at. This is the best site around….and I think I am pretty knowledgable about this ‘universe’.

Plus a large part of me desperately misses the Commonwealth.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I feel your pain living in Georgia.

Looks like I am moving back to Cincy, tho.

by UKTimmy on Sep 18, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I will take that as some sort of compliment...

…at the risk of dropping off the end of my rope.

This may be my last comment of the day (I know I can hear the applause all the way down to Jenkins), so have fun at my alma mater’s expense tomorrow. Unlike Tru I have purposely chosen golf to spare me. Maybe the golf gods will be extra nice to me.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Sep 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Heh.

Good luck, truly. I hope the Golf Gods are merciful and kind.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The golf Gods hate me

A few weeks ago, played a round with my Dad. First two holes, two birdies. Next hole, 3 shots to get out of the sand……..

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Sep 18, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Golf is a good walk spoiled

Mark Twain… lol

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Sep 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope it rains on his redbird a..........

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now ...

… be nice. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 18, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was the nicest thing I could think of to say.....

I have not commented on his nonsense on here in weeks, but that crap above about whining was over the top to me, after as much bile as he spews on here towards you and everyone else gave me a case of indigestion.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Sep 18, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs