The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Told You So Edition
by Glenn Logan on Sep 15, 2009 11:51 PM EDT
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Well, just kidding, but I turned out to be correct in a recent back-and-forth with Rush The Court over the question of whether a UK assistant was terminated or left of his own accord.
The word is that Bilal Batley, the recent departure from the UK staff, was punished for his creation of a secondary violation, as was a Gillispie assistant earlier in the year -- with a letter of admonishment. He was not fired, he was not run off, he was not threatened with cement overshoes if he did not leave. That is that.
Moving on, we find that we have some legal trouble on the football team and other stuff in the news, which follows:
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Kentucky LB Ridge Wilson charged with assault, suspended - NCAA Football - SI.com
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Former coach Billy Gillispie wants UK countersuit against him moved to federal court
LEXINGTON, Ky. — Former Kentucky coach Billy Gillispie wants a lawsuit the school filed against him moved to federal court.
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Playmakers provide spark in rivalry | The Kentucky Kernel
The Louisville offense may have taken a step back at the quarterback position, but the rest of the skill positions still present plenty of challenges for the Cats. Running back Victor Anderson and wide receivers Josh Chichester and Doug Beaumont are all established gamebreakers. - Calipari won’t upstage football | Vaught's Views
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Bluegrass State Basketball: Ex-Cat Allen Edwards Talks Past, Present and Future
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Gillispie's tale rings familiar tune to recovering Eustachy - NCAA Division I Mens Basketball - CBSSports.com
This is a really good article by Gary Parrish. Alcoholism is a difficult problem to overcome, and Larry Eustachy shows how it can be done. Can Gillispie recover and coach again? Absolutely. But not unless he realizes that he is an alcoholic, and accepts responsibility for his life and actions in the context of that disease.
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Top impact freshmen for 2009-10 - CBK News - FOX Sports on MSN
Virtually all of Kentucky's five-stars make this list.
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Louisville Tale of the Tape " Over The Pylon
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Kentucky vs. Louisville 9-19-09 – What UL fans are saying " Kentucky Wildcard
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Wildcats, Cardinals well rested | Cincinnati.com
If there's an advantage - or a disadvantage - to having a week off before a rivalry game, good luck getting either coach to say so.
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Take the Governor's Cup quiz | KentuckySports.com
It's not only the players who need to get into the rivalry frame of mind. Fans have to get there, too. -
John Clay: U of L presents some fear factors | KentuckySports.com
A 13-point spread amounts to zilch. Toss out the numbers. That's the rivalry-game creed. That's right. There are lots of things to fear, not the least of which is our kicking game. -
Low kickoffs make for high stress for Brooks | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal
Asked whether he'll consider trickery — pooch punts, squib kicks, etc. — Brooks chuckled. "The first squib kick we ordered (against Miami of Ohio) ended up a line drive down to the 2-yard line with a 2.2 (second) hang," Brooks said. "God bless our coverage guys, because they did a hell of a job on that one."
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UK staff challenges defense to step up | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal
Last season, UK was able to put pressure on quarterbacks, thanks to a particularly strong defensive line. Two of those linemen — end Jeremy Jarmon and tackle Myron Pryor — now are on NFL rosters. Brown thinks his current line — with Peters and Ricky Lumpkin at tackle and a rotation of DeQuin Evans, Chandler Burden and Collins Uku at the ends — can do similar things in time. -
Tom Leach Productions -- DeQuin Evans
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Tom Leach Productions -- Rich Brooks
Tom Leach has a video of Rich Brooks discussing the team status. -
Alan Cutler " Ridge Wilson Is In Jail…..His Future ?
Pretty good comments from the mustachioed one. - Louisville game can indicate success of season | The Kentucky Kernel
Other UK Sports News
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Ranking the SEC after Week 2 | HOG COUNTRY
10. Kentucky … The Wildcats are one gigantic question mark, as are most of Rich Brooks’ teams at this point of the year. Kentucky’s football team has been flying over the radar since John Calipari was hired as the basketball coach and that’s just how Brooks likes it. - LSU v Vandy: Behind the Numbers - And The Valley Shook
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Don't Bet On It!: Around the SEC - Dawg Sports
With another big weekend of college football on tap in the SEC, Dawg Sports offers the latest round of league predictions in this week's installment of "Don't Bet On It!"
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UK's Todd turns down bonus - Local - Kentucky.com
"I appreciate the Board of Trustees' strong expression of support for the progress and accomplishments of the past year, but it has been yet another very challenging year from a budget standpoint, and I am simply not comfortable accepting the performance award at a time when every department on campus is dealing with severe budget reductions," Todd said in a written statement.
Nice gesture by Dr. Todd, but I'm sure the editorial pages will pick on him for hiring Calipari.
The Daily Schadenfreude
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Eric Crawford: Governor's Cup starting to lose luster | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal
UK not only had its way in the scheduling with this rivalry, but now it is having its way with its rival. The Wildcats have clearly passed the Cardinals. Three years ago they were 13-point underdogs. This season they're 13-point favorites. Think about that turn of events.
Heh. Love it.
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Good for UK and especially the compliance department.
Makes you wonder if Sandy gets any sleep.
It would be somewhat better if the President wouldn’t make himself dizzy by talking in circles, though. ‘He left for personal reasons…no, wait…we punished him for a violation…oh, whatever, we trust Cal, though.’ Seems to me that Todd would have more important things to do other than spin, spin, spin. Too bad.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Sep 16, 2009 1:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What spin?
No, really, what spin? He did leave for personal reasons. That’s a fact. He was reprimanded for causing a secondary violation, just like any other coach would have been. That’s a fact.
There is no spin going on, and I don’t get your comment. If UK were trying to spin the situation, they would have reported the reprimand first, not after being forced to do so by a FOIA request.
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A basketball coach talking to a player while rebounding basketballs for them is a secondary violation
tell me the world isnt losing it…..the NCAA has gone from regulating coaching and athletics to regulating bagels and cream cheese…..next thing you know, they will be telling coaches they cant speak to the players unless they are standing at center court of the practice facility the day before a game with cameras running and a tape recorder going to keep track of the conversation……I hate that the guy had problems at home, because this would have been something Cal would have probably blown anyone out of the water for who tried to exploit the guy’s situation. No way Cal lets this guy go over something this silly…..
no one seems to know whether or not to be scared of the football team….and to be honest, now I do not either….this season should be interesting to say the least….we come out of this one at 8-4 and maybe we will have taken that next step….who knows?
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
I believe it is an effort to limit the coaching roster and 'direct' contact with players.
If you don’t have a firm, bright, red line, eventually you’d have coal barons involved in practice and even recruiting. You don’t want to go there, again.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I can see that
But I’m completely and totally confused by the violation. Is it just the coaching staff that is limited? Former coaches? Would it be okay for me to grab rebounds for him? I never give money, but I suppose I could be considered a “booster.” Would it be okay for another student to grab rebounds?
I’ve not read anywhere exactly what the rule is.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
I believe the rule covers two controls.
1. I understand that the NCAA limits the number of coaches. Therefore, you can’t have another paid employee on the floor coaching the players. A school could bend the rules and have multiple paid employees with different titles actually involved as coaches.
2. I would expect that if you were rebounding in the designated practice area that would be an issue. Your driveway may be different.
Just my understanding. I haven’t read the rule either.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I guess the podium hid Todd's red tap shoes.
C’mon. If UK wasn’t trying to spin the situation they would have announced the violations before being ‘forced’. They would have gotten in front of the story instead of the President having to respond to questions. Simple, really.
Regardless, I do think it speaks well of the compliance department. Why don’t you compliment me for my compliments. It’s good for the soul. :-)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
The compliance department ...
… is supposed to be doing that. We should compliment them for doing their job in a consistent manner? Well, I suppose given the disaster of a compliance department at Memphis these days, maybe we should after all …
But seriously, your concept of spin is exactly backward. That’s what gets me.
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If you want to call it 'nips', that is okay with me.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Seriously.
Okay, let me painstakenly explain my thoughts.
One definition of spin: Trying to have it both ways.
An example on what Todd is doing: He wants to brag or highlight how well his compliance task is performing (and that’s okay with me). But at the sametime, he says that the guy left for ‘personal reasons’.
I guess the difference between you and me is that you believe everything someone at UK says. I tend to be more thoughtful (or critical or even sophisticated) and look into what it means. I’m not saying your necessarily wrong….maybe a just a little naive. Doesn’t make you a bad person. :-)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Well, that's wrong though.
Todd only discussed the compliance staff after the FOIA request, I.E., UK was never going to talk about it until someone decided it would be a nice, juicy story if Batley got fired for his faux pas instead of leaving for personal reasons. That was short-circuited when UK explained that they had reprimanded Batley, just like a member of Gillispie’s staff earlier. No firing, no nothing, just a normal administrative process, which is laudable both in execution and in the discretion they tried to show, but could not due to a media request.
So of course, after they are forced to release the information, any good PR guy would take advantage of the opportunity. But the point was it was never their intention to reveal the discipline until forced to do so. Just because that made UK look good does not mean Dr. Todd was “spinning” it.
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by Glenn Logan on Sep 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe...
…..that yesterday, on the day that Patrick Swayze died, everyone is talking about this secondary violation. And another thing….
…..oops, channeling Rick Pitino there……..you want to talk about spin……continue.
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Answer me this.
Don’t you think it’s plausible and even likely that UK brokered a deal with Batley in exiting?
Like this:’ We want you to leave. In fact we demand it. However we want you to keep your mouth shut and we will help you maintain professional viability, so we will agree that you are leaving for ‘personal reasons’.’ That is why Blatley remains completely and totally mute.
Trust me…this happens ALL THE TIME in the private sector. I and my company use this tactic often. I have strong suspecions that this was the case here
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Sep 16, 2009 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Prove it...
Give one credible shred of evidence this is the case.
by wldcatsfreak on Sep 16, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Prove it to me it's not.
Other than one party says it was.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Hilarious
Look, i’m not trying to get in a pissin match with you.
I just find it amazing that you ALWAYS take the “look I told you Cal was up to something” approach with every little story that comes up.
You have however once again completely failed to back up your suspicions or statements with even a hint of facts. Instead you are as usual turning instantly defensive and firing back on someone that merely would like you to one time supply proof of your assumptions.
by wldcatsfreak on Sep 16, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Read it....and weep if you must.
1. Batley was discovered breaking a secondary violation.
2. This recent violation followed a couple prior ones.
3. Batley ‘left’ the program that just happen to coincided with this most recent transgression.
4. Batley has not responded.
If you want more proof, just give me time to place a bug in Barnhart’s office. You and others much waste too much time watching CSI. There won’t be DNA or fingerprints with this case. Open up your eyes, and draw some logical conclusions. It doesn’t hurt. It actually feels good. Sometimes you even learn something.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Fine
Once again you are speculating and reaching for conclusions you have no way of proving .
And when someone questions you about that w/o attempting to be rude at all you go to instant jackass.
I am done with you.
by wldcatsfreak on Sep 16, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
'No way of proving.'
See? That’s the ‘beauty’ of it all!!!
The Chicago politicians up here have developed this skill as a fine art. Maybe I am just use to seeing the reality through all the smokescreens, BS, and people puposefully not commenting. Certainly I often yearn for the simpler, albeit more gullible years in the bluegrass.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Sep 16, 2009 4:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You know,
although I think you are being a tad bit snippy today, I think there is a good overall point to be made here.
We are all, to a certain extent, products of our environment and our minds routinely tend to go in the direction of what we surround ourselves with.
You, for example, are surrounded by Chicago politicians and the big city life, and as you mention, those things (combined with many, many, other things, of course) all form a more hardened exterior and what could be seen as an overly suspicious mind. That’s all fine and good, but it’s also important to remember that just because someone else may opt for a simpler life, that choice does not necessarily make them naïve, it’s just that their mind doesn’t instinctively think of the sinister nature of human beings nor does it automatically wander toward the skeptical nature. : )
BSC....
Who exactly are you talking about?
by wldcatsfreak on Sep 16, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
she's talking about hozeking
He lives in Chicago, and is our resident “the sky is falling” guy about Calipari at UK.
I think she makes a great point, although, I think hoze’s tendancy to be a a pessimist may also have have a tiny bit to do with the fact that he’s not a UK fan. Obviously, we’re all much more eager to assign dark motives to teams and coaches not our own—and on the flip side, we’re prone to see the sunny side when it IS our team.
by blue kentucky girl on Sep 16, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that part....
I was asking who she was refering to with the people opting for a simler life comment.
by wldcatsfreak on Sep 16, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh,
I was mainly just responding to Hoze in my comment above and particularly to this comment of his:
"The Chicago politicians up here have developed this skill as a fine art. Maybe I am just use to seeing the reality through all the smokescreens, BS, and people purposefully not commenting. Certainly I often yearn for the simpler, albeit more gullible years in the bluegrass."
I was simply trying to explain that just because one chooses a happy, relaxing and uncomplicated place to live as opposed to the concrete jungle, it doesn’t mean they are stupid or simple-minded or walking around with their eyes closed (as Hoze often refers to us on this blog) — it’s just that they are not conditioned to think the worst about people and that everyone has suspicious motives.
And I was referring to me, and to all of those who currently still live in the bluegrass and pretty much anyone else who lives an unfussy, down-to-earth-yet-wildly-satisfying lifestyle by choosing to live outside the hustle and bustle of the city.
I suppose my initial post was a bit of a chick-rant (i.e., a bit unclear with a tinge of craziness mixed in : )), wasn’t it? Sorry about that little lapse. Since I’m not much of a football enthusiast, I’m admittedly a bit bored this time of year. Summer is winding down and it’s not yet in the full swing of basketball season. : )
No big deal...
actually despite living in or around multiple cities in a few differnt states I currently live back home in rural Ohio so I’m not gonna throw stones.
Besides, apparently I can’t even spell simpler. :-)
by wldcatsfreak on Sep 16, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear you. I guess I should remind you I have lived in both 'neighborhoods'.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Of course you don't....what a surprise.
Gulp…gulp…gulp. AHHHHHHH……
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Quit talking about Sypher......
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Better that than permanent, irredeemable cynicism.
What a rotten way to live.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Sep 16, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hint ALERT:
My view on all things Calipari hardly is a reflection on how I live my life.
Unlike many, my self worth is not determined on the won-lost record of ‘my’ team. I don’t happen to worship and idolize whomever my alma mater may overpay as coach.I don’t lay awake trying to rationalize everything ‘my’ player, or coach, or administrator does. I can’t recall either sweating or celebrating the decision of a 17 year old. I can even admit when I’m wrong (like being sure Meeks would stay and Pat would leave).
That all may be tough & impossible to understand for someone living in such a narrow and shallow world, but thanks anyway for caring…even though your comment was rude as hell.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Sep 16, 2009 11:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Then why bother
your self worth is to cry like some bitch on a rivals blog?You worship no one yet here you are.
any new members on the compliance staff?
It would be interesting to know if the compliance department contains any new members from Calipari’s form schools.
Truz, look into that for us
Truz, you missed this one
This is the one that should have a link to it.
My only question is-
be consistant as 2008-09? In just what sport?
Can you get season tickets to the rifle matches?
Its silly statements like this that blows Barnhart’s creditablity.
Is it just me
Or does it seem like UK fans always get ridiculed by the national media when they criticize the coach (Tubby, Billy G, Brooks, etc). Yet, when Ohio State fans do it, where is the feigned indignation from teh takling heads?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4477250
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
I Think There Is A Difference Between...
Perfectly legitimate criticism (sub-par UK seasons in 2006 and 2007) and absurd criticism (worst 22-4 team in the nation back in 1998 but we haven’t given up yet, per caller to Big Blue Line in 1998).
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 16, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Legitimate
There was plenty of legitimate criticism to go around for Tubby, too.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 16, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Please Read What I Wrote
2006 and 2007 seasons (Tubby was coach then) were prefectly legitimate criticism.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 16, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
My apologies.
I put the cart before the horse on this one. Its been one of those days. My bad, Forty.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 16, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not To Worry
I’m agreeing with your point.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 16, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Go to www.weusedtobegoodundercrumbutnotanymore.com website.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 16, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I am scared to click on the link......
I’m afraid it will work……lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
One point I'd like to make:
Regarding Crawford’s article, yes the game has lost luster partly because of Kragthorpe’s incompetence. However, the main reason, as Mr. Crawford points out, is because of Kentucky’s ridiculous rejection of a prime time Labor Day slot for the game.
The fact is, at the time the UK athletic department anticipated Petrino and years of Louisville dominance, and they wanted as few people as possible to witness this. Not being clairvoyant, they had no clue of the impending trainwreck from Tulsa. So, do to their own shortsighted cowardice, they will route Louisville to an audience of dozens on ESPN OCHO before anyone on the West Coast is even out of bed. Smooth move.
by don'tshootmei'macard on Sep 16, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
yep
UK kinda shot themselves in the foot on this one.
by blue kentucky girl on Sep 16, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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