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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Walking Away From Memphis Edition

"You're not quite evil enough. You're semi-evil. You're quasi-evil. You're the margarine of evil. You're the Diet Coke of evil, just one calorie, not evil enough."

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"You're not quite evil enough. You're semi-evil. You're quasi-evil. You're the margarine of evil. You're the Diet Coke of evil, just one calorie, not evil enough."

I must confess, I am rather tired of talking about the Memphis violations, and having to explain the same point over and over and over again to people who insist on ignoring what I wrote the first time.  I guess one of these days I'll learn just to write something and not bother to defend it, or perhaps I just need to become a better writer so nobody will ask. 

Either way, I am moving on, at least for the nonce.  But Calipari has a defense coming from me to the voluminous complaints against him.  I just don't have time to do that today, because Mrs. Tru and I are heading off to the Kentucky State Fair to see Keith Urban in concert.  Oh, yeah, babe -- Fair food and fair tunes -- gotta love it.

Here are some news articles for your perusal.  Yes, there are some Memphis items in there, but mostly offered for their unintended humor.

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I just want to

be the first one to comment!!!!

When a great nation falls, it falls from within. There is only two ways to do this. One must "take" power by force, or when the other side simply "gives" it to them. me

by blubloodcatfan on Aug 22, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Truz

You don’t have to defend him to me. I’m a believer. Did nothing wrong. Knew nothing. Expected nothing.
We don’t need any defense for him. Honest. I’ve comvinced. Really I am. There is nothing you could say that would make me more convinced he was the right move. The perfect hire.
Anyone else agree?

by ParisGuy on Aug 22, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely..........

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Aug 22, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I abhor Duke!

But I’d rather see Western Michigan meet Michigan. There are certain coaches I personally do not care for, but I will concede that they are talented at their craft (Coach K and Bobby Petrino come to mind). But I see absolutely no redeeming qualities in Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez.

by mrmondaynite on Aug 22, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you live in Columbus?

If you don’t mind me asking.

by mrmondaynite on Aug 23, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My second guess was going to be

Morgantown, WV

Heh.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Aug 24, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's funny

Yep, can’t imagine you would find to many people singing Rodriguez’s praises in WVA.

by wldcatsfreak on Aug 24, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just one last question...

What got the ETS interested in Rose’s test to begin with? They had already certified him to the NCAA Clearinghouse, I suppose, when the Clearinghouse made its determination that Rose was eligible.

Was there a tip from someone? Has this source, if it exists, been identified?

by MTCAT on Aug 22, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think there was a tip.

If you read the report over at Basketball Prospectus, it has the whole timeline discussed.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 22, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if just anyone can make a tip...

Seems like if someone really wanted to just foul us up they could just “tip off” the NCAA or a group like the ETS.

That is a little worrisome as it doesn’t seem like the NCAA doesn’t need a lot of evidence to convict.

by scfcats on Aug 23, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

If you ask me, they needed so little evidence in this case that it sets a remarkable, almost inconceivable precedent. But then again there is the Corey Maggette thing, so I suppose unbelievable precedents aren’t really so unbelievable after all.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this controversy could be eaily avoided

if the testing agency just took pictures of the applicants when they are taking the exam. If they used a digiatal camera this would cost almost nothing.

by gright on Aug 23, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good idea.....never even thought about that.....simple fix

nice job there gright….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 23, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why ...

… it’ll never happen. Makes way too much sense.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 24, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much easier and much less costly would be to fingerprint each test taker.

Any questions later about identiy? Check the prints.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 24, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Chicago Public Schools Audit Committee found out from one of Rose's teachers that Kevin Johnson (a teammate) had taken the Detroit test, not Rose.

The subsequent proof that the handwriting didn’t match, the scores were so disparate as to be unbelievable, and Rose’s complete refusal to cooperate just sealed the deal. By the way, it was Memphis who hired the handwriting expert, not the NCAA. Their own expert told them the two samples do not match.

I don’t see what all the pretense is about — a blind man in a dark room could see that the man cheated.

This business of “he didn’t get his mail” is complete crap. He was TWICE sent certified mail to his home address, which the Postal Service WILL NOT deliver without a signature confirming receipt. You’d have to think his mother bogarted certified mail from her own son to use that as an excuse — which even Rose has never done. Only DeCourcy has tried to float that inane balloon.

Rose did not cooperate with the ETS, he did not cooperate with the NCAA, and his lawyer is now saying that he will not cooperate with the media in providing even a single speck of proof that he was even in Detroit on the date when the bogus test was taken by Kevin Johnson. Here is a multi-millionaire who has failed to produce even so much as a credit card receipt, a photograph, or a ticket stub showing that he was in Detroit on the date in question.

The kicker for me is that although he CLAIMS the reason he signed up for the test 315 miles away from home because the Bulls were playing there in a playoff game, the fact is that the person who requested the Detroit testing site did so before it was known that the Bulls would be playing in that game, or that the game would even be in Detroit.

Yes, there is some bovine excrement here, but most of it is being thrown by Rose and Memphis.

How gullible do you have to be to think this thing could have gone down the way Rose claims?

Memphis has not made that claim since the 6 June hearing. Their defense is NOT that Rose didn’t cheat, but that they were unwilling dupes who should be excused due to their due diligence.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree about circumstantial evidence, Ken

I disagree about the punishment being so severe against Memphis and not Rose.

And though the circumstantial evidence adds up, please keep this in mind:

(a) my own ACT score jumped 5 points… (guess who didn’t take it seriously the first time…) so while it’s rare… it happens 5% of the time and shouldn’t be an instant, obvious crime.

(b) And as we all know, if you are not there to receive a certified mail, you get the little postcard that says to come to the post office to retrieve it. There’s no evidence someone signed for it, is there? Only that it was sent certified mail. If it was for Rose, it’s a stretch to assume someone else signed for it and opened it.

And though the circumstantial evidence adds up… is it enough to warrant this HUGE MAKING AN EXAMPLE punishment to Memphis? ROSE ignored the NCAA. We don’t know anything about Memphis’ response or lack thereof, though people are assuming.

Again, I might be missing evidence not released. But this whole event wipes away personal responsibility and punishes an institution for not benching a kid over as-yet-unproven circumstantial events.

My two cents.

by Filmcat on Aug 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Several points.

(1) The test pattern was more than just two tests and a modest jump. It was three consecutive test results that were well below the necessary qualifying score, followed a few weeks later by a mysterious fourth test 315 miles away that jumped two quintiles. While I can buy the argument that a person could let the test slip up on him the first time, here was a guy who knew he needed to make the score to qualify, and who knew that virtually the whole sports world was watching. He would NOT have taken it lightly, especially the second and third times. But suddenly he appeared in World Wide Wes’ home town and took the test seriously, and experienced a phenomenal jump in score, after which he refused to take the test again to substantiate his alleged tremendous improvement.

By the way, where have you read that there was only a 5 point jump? That would make no sense, because the two sets of tests were vastly different, from ACT to SAT. They are not even graded on the same scale. I’d love to see the source if anyone has it, especially since I can no longer locate the source for my note that the jump was two quintiles.

(2) Both letters from ETS were in fact delivered to Rose’s residence, according to the ETS. I don’t know who signed for them, but only the recipient or his guardian should have been permitted.

(3) Memphis has had the wins stripped for two reasons. First, even if it had been totally duped by Rose and were totally innocent in the matter, the NCAA cannot in all fairness allow the instution to play an ineligible player and still count the wins. That would not be fair to all of the rest of the teams that played by the rules. The fact of the matter is that the team that Memphis fielded was flat out ineligible, and no one could argue that Rose was just an insignificant part of that team (something the NCAA does judge).

When you play guys whose academic eligibility has been questioned, you have to live with the consequences of that decision if you guess wrongly.

Second, it is clear that Memphis DID in fact know of the challenge to the bogus Detroit SAT score no later than October 2007, when it also learned of the fraudulent grade changes Rose had from Simeon High School. That is when Memphis actually started its own “investigation,” although giving Memphis credit for having held an investigation is stretching it. Basically all they did was ask Derrick whether he cheated on the SAT as well as the grades, or just on the grades. They did supposedly get a teacher to recant her statement that Kevin Johnson took the SAT in question, but the point is that all of this came BEFORE Rose played a single game, not after he had left, as has frequently been alleged on this and other sites.

Only the formal NCAA Notice of Potential Violations came after the season. Memphis knew before Rose played a single game that CPS had caught Rose with fraudulent grade changes, and that it was also calling BS on the SAT score. They chose to play Rose anyway, despite knowing he had submitted a bogus grade transcript, and despite having turned up nothing to back up Rose’s claim to have been in Detroit on the date in question.

How guilty is Memphis here? Well they KNEW he was a cheat, based on the grade changes. They SHOULD HAVE KNOWN he was a cheat with respect to the SAT as well, because they could generate no evidence that he had taken the test. That’s enough for me.

Others go further and say that it’s at least likely if not obvious that with a few weeks left before the start of classes and three consecutive failures on the ACT, Calipari or others arranged through World Wide Wes for Kevin to take Derrick’s test in another state where nobody would have reason to recognize his name or face.

I don’t know about that. I rather doubt Cal is that stupid or that crooked. I am quite comfortable with what the NCAA has done to Memphis, though, just based on the fact that it put a team on the field that was not eligible according to the rules all NCAA schools agreed to live by. Derrick put them back on the map. They should take their lumps and move on.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 24, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken,

where and whom are your sources on this?

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 23, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've read both the NCAA's letter to Memphis and the subsequent report issued after the 6 June hearing.

Most of the misconceptions people have can be cleared up just by reading those. It’s not clear what other facts your “this” is intended to reference.

The CPS Audit red flag has been public knowledge for almost two years — that audit was the one that uncovered Rose’s other cheating — the admitted changing of grades by Simeon High School. The question isn’t whether Rose committed academic fraud, just how much. Grades AND SAT, or just grades.

The letters to Rose from ETS gave him three options: (1) provide ANY evidence to allow us to substantiate your alleged attendance in Detroit (2) submit the question to a panel of education bureaucrats for a ruling, or (3) just take the damned test again and settle the thing once and for all if you did in fact improve that much. He was informed that his failure to choose an option from among the three would be treated by ETS as an admission that the scores were fraudulent, and he was implored to cooperate.

In the face of these inquiries, Rose failed to cooperate or respond in any way. The ETS did the only thing it could do when the student at issue refuses to cooperate to give them anything to go on — they invalidated the results.

The NCAA gave Rose and Memphis another opportunity to prove Rose took the test, and again, there was no evidence offered by either Memphis or Rose at the hearing.

All of this is widely disseminated on the ‘net now, except perhaps the 60 page report is not yet out. I’m sure it will be posted somewhere soon. Check the Memphis papers.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 24, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken, put yourself in the place of this student. Suppose, he DID NOT cheat . . .

and he had a history of not doing well on this type of test, but this ONE TIM he did well.. Now he has to RETAKE the test to verify the high score he received. Imagine the apprehension. Can I do it again?

I once had a student who was a marvelous musician. He was first chair in the state of KY but had very poor grades. Nevertheless he was admitted into one of the best known music schools in the country on a full scholarship and is now playing with a major symphony. Should he have had to retake his SATs over if he had done well one time?

If Rose did not cheat, then this letter put he in an untenable position. If his score was an outlier, though properly earned, the chances of him earning a similar score would not be very good. If his retake score was lower, then, he is labeled a cheat. If he doesn’t take the test, the score will always be in question. So much so that the enire university would have to pay dearly for admitting him..

Thank God, there is no NCAA controlling our excellent music programs.

by Blueobsessed on Aug 24, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken

would you mind providing a link to exactly what you read?….I would really like to look over all of this. Based upon what you are saying, Memphis is in no uncertain terms LYING about what they did. I just find it hard to believe that they would still be lying after the information is made public.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 24, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the best point is about the test signup coming before

anyone knew who would be playing in the playoffs – that should be an indisputable fact that is easily verified – i wondered about that but given it was so late in the year imagined that the signup could have been late…

also, the certified mail being delievered or just a note should be verifiable.

is it a fact that memphis hired the handwritting expert?

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Aug 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NCAA letter apprising Memphis of the potential wrongdoing...

…demands that Memphis produce the report of the handwriting expert, and identifies her by name. If the NCAA had hired her, I cannot see why it would demand that the university provide them with the report of their own expert. It just doesn’t work that way. Plus it explains the tepid conclusion drawn: Rose is “probably not” the person who took the Detroit test.

Despite what some bloggers are now claiming, Memphis was informed of the bogus SAT in October of 2007, before Rose had played a single game. Memphis claims to have done an investigation, which apparently included the hiring of the handwriting expert. Memphis also claims that the teacher who told CPS that Kevin Johnson actually took the suspect SAT told them that she had not made that statement. I wonder about that as well.

This is where in my judgment Memphis has egg on its face. Its alleged “investigation” — which it conducted before Rose played a single game — uncovered the fact that Rose’s handwriting sample did not match the sample on the subject test, and failed to secure from Rose even a single piece of evidence that he had been in Detroit on the weekend in question. No affidavit from Aunt Flo, no gas receipt, no toll road receipt, no ticket stub, no credit card entries, no pictures, no nothing.

But Memphis somehow concluded that he took the test — a conclusion that is supported by nothing other than Derrick’s unsupported assertion, “I know I took the test.”

I don’t know who signed for the ETS letters, but they were not left without signature.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 24, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who was it that informed Memphis of the "bogus" SAT?

And how do we know it was in October 2007?

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 24, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken, this is all misinformation.

None of what you are saying is accurate. The report does not say this, and you have just made a bunch of conclusions for which the evidence is very limited. The IG did tell Memphis about allegations of irregularities for which the IG had no proof in October, and a Memphis investigation could uncover no proof to substantiate the claim that the IG received. Kevin Johnson was never mentioned in any report anywhere about being the person who took the SAT.

You may believe whatever you want, but none of the stuff you claim has been proven. The only actual evidence of impropriety was the handwriting expert’s testimony. Bottom line — if you are correct, it is an accident, because none of this has ever been proven with facts.

The grade-changing incident can be imputed to Rose how? Did he have access to the CPS computers? I’m thinking no. Not even the CPS ever alleged any involvement by Rose in that matter, and it would not have affected his college eligibility anyway.

I presume you have checked out the grassy knoll? :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 24, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this is true Ken

you need to either apologize yourself, or start showing some proof. These are some pretty blatant accusations you are making.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 24, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Football fans

If you want to hear the latest then go to the links that Tru put up. Good news coming out of the second scrimmage today.

by kykat51 on Aug 22, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kat

We aren’t going to talk football here. Not until Memphis gets back its wins and Cal gets a five year ‘get out of jail’ pass for any possible wrong deeds he might do.
We aren’t serious about football. And its a shame.
Still I want to know why we are defending our new basketball coach if there’s no wrong doing noted on his part.
I think we have a bunch of fans running scared of what might happen at Kentucky. Maybe if we build up a real good defense for him before anything happens we’ll feel better about it.

by ParisGuy on Aug 24, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey ...

… I put a football post up. What’s the beef? :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 24, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Truz

Followed by a post on basketball.
Footballl is 12 days away and we aren’t focusing on the subject at hand.

by ParisGuy on Aug 25, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Paris.....you dont call what is going on the subject at hand??

I really wish you could see the bigger picture here. No one is trying to take away from Football. We have had indepth analysis of everything from the season’s uniforms to the movie the guys went to see when Coach gave them their break. The truth is, until something else new happens with the football program, they are on auto-pilot barring any more injuries or suspensions. And every time one of those comes up it is dealt with in daily news or a fan post by someone such as yourself or another blogger. We have great participation here by the fans, and you yourself post some really good stuff. But don’t belittle Basketball. It got us to where we are today and who this University is. I am a big football fan, but it has only become a really relevant program in the last 10 years. Give it time, it will become an equal part of the fans attention. Tru takes us where the media and internet take us. He does a good job of covering everything that is Kentucky, both football and basketball. And your personal feelings may not be shared by everyone, but we do respect them.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I relate to both views

Basketball is king at UK; however, I’m about to bust a gut waiting for football. It’s my favorite sport and hope springs eternal for UK football. I referred to ASOB as standing for A Sea Of Basketball in a fanpost but that is not to criticize the basketball emphasis. We know basketball it is our identity.

I’ve enjoyed the football posts written here and links to other information and I’d just would like a little more love for football. Kick-off in 11 days.

by hoboat33 on Aug 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hoboat

I agree with the ASOB thing.
Football isn’’t our sport and I don’t see it happening as long as the basketball coach"s removal of a tree is the lead story on the sports page.
That’s the reason we don’t have a hot seat for our football coaches. If any other coach in the country didn’t win a game against a single team with a winning record, he’d be on record as suspect of being there the following year. Not in Lexington. Tailgating is the perfect gathering place to discuss basketball season. Really nice until the rains of October and November set in. Then we can gather in the bars and watch the games on TV and talk about basketball.
The most secure job in the SEC is football coach at the University of Kentucky.

by ParisGuy on Aug 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's room for both sports

but many (like me) avidly support football but have memories of absolutely abysmal performances, gut wrenching loses and scandals that wrecked the program in years past (see Ray, Curci, Mumme, etc.). Until Kentucky can sustain at least 8 years without a “here we go again” event there will always be trepidation to jump in with both feet to support the football program. These wounds are still not healed.

Brooks has done an admirable job in helping to restore the faith in the program and maybe fans will, at some point, look at football as more than a pasttime leading up to basketball season. The biggest problem I have is that the level of support is reflected in UK blogs, news and press coverage. This is a big hill for Coach Brooks to climb and surely hinders his recruiting efforts. Prospective players surf through the Kentucky sites and see the overwhelming attention to the basketball program and likely see a less than insane football fanbase. If you were a recruit, wouldn’t that “lack of love” make you think twice?

by hoboat33 on Aug 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paris ...

… as the young would say, “I feel you, dog.”

But there is a reason Bear Bryant received that pocket watch, and Adolph Rupp that Cadillac.

Football is a nice distraction until basketball season. That is the reality at Kentucky, just like basketball is something Alabama does in the wintertime so they won’t be accused of ignoring it.

I get that you are a football fan, but cold reality is that if I start posting mostly about football, my readership will quickly drop. How do I know? Experience. My job is to talk about what Kentucky fans want to talk about, and quite frankly, only a small minority want to talk about football all the time. When the season starts, we’ll see more and more football and less basketball, but in the meantime, you’ll just have to be patient, and bow to reality.

Most of the excitement right now, for better or worse, is about the basketball team. It may not be fair, but at UK, things are different than at the rest of the SEC, and it will most likely be that way when both you and I are taking a long, dirt nap. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 26, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 26, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

considering the fact that Ken Pomeroy put up

a couple of huge posts with a lot of unverifiable information, it will have some cause to continue the discussion on the Memphis matter. However, this is NOT about defending Calipari anymore, or about Memphis individually…..this is about the NCAA and it’s policies and rules that they seem to make up arbitrarily as they go along, and apply to whomever they choose. We cant stick our heads in the sand on this one folks. It will lead to more and more of these type situations. Public scrutiny is the only forum where these practices will be openly discussed, because the NCAA sure isnt going to do that.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 25, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can NOT wait

to hear the eruption from the crowd when they announce our starting line up and our new coach at Big Blue Madness. It will be deafening!!!

;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 25, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Video: Rich Brooks talks about UK’s Saturday scrimmage John Clay’s Sidelines

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I like his crack about the UK basketball schedule… :-)

…. but I had to watch this video twice because the first time through I kept getting distracted by his hat…

by Sonic on Aug 23, 2009 6:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Yeah, he has that Greg Norman hat. I used to wear those when I played golf. Now, I’m back to a ball cap.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 23, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, that one he’s wearing has a UK logo on it…

I think it’s just the brim that’s kinda funky— it looks like maybe he had it in the backseat of his car and someone just sat on it…. reminds me of those kids in Little League who didn’t know how to turn down the brim of their ballcaps…. those were the ones you always wanted to hit the ball to….

:-)

by Sonic on Aug 23, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flat bill are now cool

or so I am told by my Little League team. The entire team from Stanton Island is wearing theirs that way. Then again, they got beat by Georgia yesterday (and serves them right for intentionally walking a batter twice).

by GoLightning on Aug 23, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really??

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Oh great… so now not only are the 12 year-olds “cooler” than I am, but so is a nearly 70 year-old football coach…

… just throw in “and everyone in between” and I am all set… :-)

[ Good thing I never wear hats ]

by Sonic on Aug 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch Joker's video

I like his hat better. Has a more broken in look to it.

by hoboat33 on Aug 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the New York Post yesterday

“Calipari and Pitino got in trouble for similar offenses – Calipari for using an ineligible player and Pitino for using an ineligible receiver.”

It made me laugh. . .

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." -Inigo Montoya

by NYCCats on Aug 23, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

Hilarious!

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 23, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brooks surprised the team today.

He cancelled practice and took the team to the movies. Gotta love that guy!

A time to rest and heal from the minor injuries yesterday.

by kykat51 on Aug 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh!!

Is taking them to the movies (presumably paying their way) an NCAA violation? Do we make them pay for their own ankle-wrapping tape? If not, why not? What about the “sports drinks” they drink and pour on the coach after a victory. Probably should pay for that, too. I think we have a potential investigation here. It should occupy a lot of NCAA investigators for a while looking into it. Of course, we can eliminate Duke form the full investigation, so that should save some time.

It’s a boring day off. When does the season, any season, start. No football, no b-ball, the golf majors are over, the US ladies won the Solheim Cup, don’t care about baseball any more. I’m gonna take a month-long nap. Wake me when something important happens.

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Aug 24, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha.

I always appreciate a little sarcasm in the morning, so thanks for that. : )

About taking the football team to the movies, though – I was actually going to ask, What did they go see?

On the surface it seems pretty cool to me that they got a day off from practice to go to the movies as I would absolutely love to go to the movies as opposed to a dreadful sports practice where you get all gross, dirty, and sweaty. But, the bigger question is — did Brooks take the team to a movie that they actually liked? I mean, if they aren’t exactly Tarantino fans, for example, and Brooks took them to see Inglourious Basterds, well, that might not necessarily be seen as a perk and better than practice, now would it?? ; )

by BigSkyCat on Aug 24, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did take them to see Inglourious Basterds.

Brooks said he thought it was weird, and the rest of the team didn’t seem that into it. KSR had more on it this morning.

I’m still excited to see it.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 24, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, right, KSR.

I don’t wander over there very often, or otherwise I suppose I would have seen that.

Basterds. FWIW — I thought the movie was awesome and I would totally give it a thumbs up for entertainment value. But then again, I have the sense of humor to appreciate a Tarantino film and it is definitely classic Tarantino in that it’s gloriously preposterous and fiercely funny. But, if you don’t particularly care for Tarantino’s films, then I can totally see how this movie would not be your cup of tea.

Without giving anything away for those of you who are planning on seeing it, I will say that it’s more about all the great and cheesy WWII movies than it is about WWII itself (which is no laughing matter, of course).

by BigSkyCat on Aug 24, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I like

the smell of napalm in the morning, but to each his/her own.

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Aug 24, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

That it will ever be over…maybe in Iraq but the Afghan situation is worse. I really don’t know but I would love for our guys to be home. It’s been too long…8 years and counting. Reminds me of the Nam war, not good.

I remember sitting in a restaurant in Louisville with my husband and listening to Colin Powell. Hubbie was retired KNG and he agreed we should enter Iraq because he believed in Powell. But little did we know until later that Powell was duped by the government. A lot of US citizens were done the same way. I would believe Powell anyday before I would believe Bush and Cheney.

by kykat51 on Aug 24, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No month long nap Sir

Our first football game is coming Sept 5th. Get your juices flowing with the football team. I personally think this team will be better than last year’s team.

Go Football Cats!

by kykat51 on Aug 24, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, you win.

For a nice UK lady, I’ll try to get excited about the football team. But I’m still waiting for b-ball season to start!! :-))

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Aug 25, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I know and agree with basketball

But at this time it is Football time in the country and I love the game only because I walked the sidelines with my Dad over 40 yrs ago when my brothers played. He would explain everything to me.

Get with it oldcat!

by kykat51 on Aug 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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