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Rick Pitino News Conference/Statement

Rick Pitino, chastened and full of regret today in the news conference, took no questions.

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Rick Pitino, chastened and full of regret today in the news conference, took no questions.

Rick Pitino made a prepared statement, and said things had been difficult.  He made a decision to do what he has done over the last seven months because of something he preached to his players over the last 30 years; (paraphrasing) "tell the truth and it becomes part of your past -- tell a lie, and it becomes part of your future."  He said that he told the truth to everyone in law enforcement, his family and his employers.  He wanted to tell his extended family he was sorry for his indiscretion six years ago.  He also apologized to the press, and to the University of Louisville.

He considers his extended family his fans.  He invoked 9-11 as being an issue that he needed the Louisville community to help him get over.  He said he will cooperate with the authorities and he believes in the judicial system.  He plans on accomplishing one thing, regardless of how difficult it is, to coach at U of L as long as he has the passion for coaching basketball, he loves the university, the community and the state and would like to coach as long as long as they will have him.

He wants to take U of L past the elite eight, but mainly wants to apologize to his players, his family, the University, his friends and the press.

Please feel free to comment as you wish.

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The public apology was nice....

I commend him for that. I hope his extended family is willing to accept it. That is really what is most important.

Now after a day like this, I am sad for his family, but what kind of Wildcat fan would I be if I didn’t admit I really want the chance to watch him as my team beats U of L on January 2nd? And maybe again in March. I just was unable to hold that in any longer. Go Cats !

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by a2d2 on Aug 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree ...

… wholeheartedly with every bit of that.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 12, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seemed genuinely apologetic and sincere, and for Rick that is no easy task.

Of course if I had just gone through what he has then I would be genuinely apologetic and sincere as well. The underlying problem here is that he has to reconcile his behavior with his drive to win at all costs. The man may recover as a husband and father, but will he still be able to have that drive and determination that he is so well known for, on the court? He has to learn to have some sense of self in his life and answer a lot of really tough questions. And he may have already done that for his family, I do not know.

The same obsessive-compulsive behavior traits that made this happen to him are the ones that made him single minded enough to allow nothing to stand between himself and a National Championship when he was here. Sleeping on couches in the office, work always coming first, these things are classic signs of a life that is completely out of balance, but driven to the point of accepting nothing but winning. Maybe that is why he has yet to climb that National Champ. plateau at Louisville. Maybe he has already been able to reconcile all of this to himself. These are the questions that wll be hard to answer in the future, should he choose to do so. Coaches are seen as icons a their schools. Generals in student armies bent on the destruction of whomever this week’s opponent is. It is not easy to lead when people know your weaknesses.

If Rick Pitino succeeds from here on out, it will only be with the help of his family, friends, and people around him that support him. That, and the Grace of the Almighty. Keeping yourself focused and centered is not as difficult as keeping EVERYONE going that way. Rick Pitino’s best coaching is either behind him, or ahead of him…..he has to choose which.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 12, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apologetic and Sincere

I’ve seen a number of people comment on his sincerity at the press conference. MY thinking is of course he’s sorry….sorry for getting caught.

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by davw83 on Aug 13, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And as was stated above

He could have done without the 9/11 reference.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You will lose

Three years in a row.

Hey Tru. :)

by BR7 on Aug 13, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isnt that supposed to be "you vill loos"?

lol…..if youre going to joke about something you have to make it funny br7……

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It could happen.

Hey, BR7. Hope you’re well.

Glad to see that you guys seem to be handling this well, at least as well as can be expected. I’m just glad that it looks like Pitino will be the coach of the Cardinals next year, and hopefully longer.

This, too shall pass. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it will too

Coach has shamed himself, but we all, blue and red fans alike, know that he has what it takes to rebound from this.

I hope you’re well too, and good luck in the football game next month.

I’ve now got to return to Card Chronicle to continue some Kragthorpe hating.

by BR7 on Aug 13, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Word.

Thanks a lot.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure the 9/11 mention was appropriate or even helpful. Weird.
One positive: Good to see Sea of Blue on the CBSSports front page.

by markallanpeterson on Aug 12, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he gets NO sympathy from me

I feel sorry for his wife and kids, they are the ones goin thru emotional hell, every tv station has it on……..but I don’t think he should get fired. …..and he keeps going back to 911, guess hes looking for pity because of the loss of his brother-in-law, one has nothing to do with the other

by Bluehound on Aug 12, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will have to agree....

I am not sure what he is thinking. I hope he is not bringing up 9/11 for pity. I really, really hope not.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Aug 12, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes a great coach

but he has always been full of himself……

by Bluehound on Aug 12, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

You’ll probably get universal agreement with that sentiment.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Aug 12, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL...I think everybody is ready for September 5th around here

Not to mention the 19th especially.
:-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Aug 12, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let this be a warning....

to all waitresses. Don’t ask Ricky P. if he wants dessert.

by maysvilleblue on Aug 12, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rick is full of shit

he did not RAPE anyone because his “assitant coach” was laying down and listending to consentual sex

by -Zoso- on Aug 12, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And 3000K waas given to Karen Syher

because rick is concerned with her plan

by -Zoso- on Aug 12, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you mean 3K?

Just askin’.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RP is a future Hall of Famer, and I am thankful for his contributions to UK basketball. That said, if there is anyone that truly believes the $3000 was for “health insurance”, please contact me; ……do I have a bridge for you………….

by ibleedblue17 on Aug 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well if you think an abortion costs $3,000.

I’ll sell you the river.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 12, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he'd paid the three million back then, maybe she wouldn't have tried to blackmail him!

I can’t make up my mind whether I am more creeped out by Ricky having public sex while his assistant listens or by the woman who would participate in it and later try the shakedown. The whole thing is sad.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 12, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was an added benefit to his

contract. he thought when it said Tang he was getting an orange drink……

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and a box of condoms cost $10

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 12, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had many?

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 12, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classy.

I expect more from you.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 12, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know...

that was bad. :(

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did you all make of the "I promise to coach here 'til I die" comment?

It struck me that King Rick was fearful there might be a call for his job after this, and wanted to buy off the hounds by promising to end his coaching days there on the southern bank of the Ohio. “Please don’t fire me; I’ll stay and coach here forever if you’ll have me.”

Realize two things: (1) unlike BCG, Rick did sign a contract, and it permits discipline for actions tending to bring him or the program into disrepute (and yes, the language really is that vague). He COULD easily be terminated with cause over such a thing. This is not just a tawdry affair, but a very creepy and surreal moment of having sex with essentially a random woman in a restaurant while one of your subordinates is lying a few feet away listening to the sounds of passion (or so he told the FBI). Not to mention the fact that SHE claims it was a rape. (What was that you were saying about Isaiah Thomas?)

Second (2) this thing is not going to go away in a week or two, because the poor woman’s trial is a built-in story rejuvenator. It’s going to be on the front pages nationally for weeks and weeks, and will absolutely absorb not just the sports fans, but also that crowd that lives and breathes the trial de jour (Greta Van Susteren, Court TV, and the other spawn of OJ). The bizarre nature of the whole thing will have a shelf life to rival OJ, which I think Rick well understands.

I think that’s why he put all of that “I wanna coach for so long as you’ll have me” language in his mea culpa.

By the way, this incident has done way more to hurt my personal evaluation of Rick than his accepting the Louisville job ever did. I love what he did for our program, and will never forget it, nor did I begrudge him the Louisville job six years ago, but this latest is just thoroughly immoral and WAY too creepy for me to dismiss. I eagerly await the coming (inevitable) Sports Illustrated cover shot and its pithy title about Pitino’s shame.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 12, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not willing to try to read those tea leaves.

But I doubt very much if Sypher actually goes to trial. I would accuse her attorney of malpractice if that happens. The consequences for her would be dire, much too dire. Hopefully, he will convince her to settle.

U of L could fire Pitino for what is essentially moral turpitude, but they won’t, in my opinion. This will be a big story for a while, and Sypher seems like she is trying to keep it alive as long as possible, so there is no telling when it will finally blow over.

I will be glad when it is in the past, but I’m afraid Pitino will be dealing with this for a long, long time to come, at least personally. I don’t know what the ultimate impact will be professionally, but I doubt he loses his job at U of L.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's personally dealt with it foe six years already.

I think his measured and relative light attitude during the press conference showed that the worse is over for him now…at least personally.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 7:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so.

I just hope the worst is also over for his family. The sooner everyone can move on, the better, but I think it will be a while yet.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he took the only route he could

and still remain a part of that program. And it still may not be enough. If Sypher was to win that case and then go to a civil trial for damages…..hitting the fan wont begin to cover it.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 12, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just want to know

WHY and WHERE was the assistant LYING DOWN????

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You really need to occupy your mind with better things.

Try a book, like a romance novel. Maybe a hobby.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 12, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You dont wonder about that at all??

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it was a 2 for 1 special.....

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!!

That was one of my first thoughts – Where was this guy and what the heck was he doing???

That detail struck me as soooo strange!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, it puts a new meaning to hot off the grill

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I can imagine it

You’re the low man on the totem pole that has to drive coach around when he’s drunk.

Its late. You want to go home. The philandering old man is over flirting with some whore. You sit there pissed off. Its 2003, so its not even like you’ve got an iPhone to keep you occupied. Out of frustration you lay down in a booth to wait for him to ask for a ride home.

I can completely picture it.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Aug 14, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would explain it for me....

Thanks chirop. I could not figure that part out. Maybe I didn’t want to know….LOL
 Do we know where is Vinnie now? Just asking…..
:-)

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by a2d2 on Aug 14, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think he's opening up an eat n sleep

restaurant

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 14, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They used to be called Bed and Breakfasts,

now theyre call Benches and Bartabs.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 14, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Free hankies for the first 100

customers!!!!

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 14, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little more than sordid isn't it Tink??

borderline creepy?….why did the assistant who was there to be a designated driver allow 2 intoxicated individuals to leave in a car together?? why did the owner of the restaurant throw Rick the keys and tell him to lock up??….way too many whys…….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was probably roughing up his suspect

Lord I appologize for that…….

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

/wipes coffee off screen

If Northwestern can do it, why can't we?

by NYCCats on Aug 13, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, now that's just wrong.....

on sooooo many levels…..lol….good grief coop…..almost caused me to choke on a doughnut….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I've been to Porcino many times, and I'm having trouble working out in my head

A: Where the sex happened – a private room, perhaps?

B: Where ol’ Vinny was taking his cat nap. I cannot think of anywhere in that place that would work for lying down, and I’m guessing Vinny might be a big boy to boot.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 13, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She says he raped her on a "leather bench"

Dunno.

Personally, if I’m Porcini’s owner… I’m putting a picture of Rick Pitino right there in the booth where it happened.

Kinda like Texas Roadhouse has “Willy’s Corner” for Willy Nelson.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Aug 14, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about a Golden Spike

In the floor to mark the place where he nailed her? They put gold spikes in the floor when a player nails a big shot.

by Fortunatus on Aug 14, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1!!!!

Freakin awesome!!!

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 14, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 15, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can somebody explain this to me?

The more I read about this the weirder it gets. Let me get this straight. They have the affair in a restaurant while Tatum is eves dropping on the while encounter. Then 6 months after the abortion she marries the equipment manager of the team who at some point brings Pitino a list of her demands. I mean come on, this just dosen’t add up. I assume that Tim Sypher didn’t know about the whole situation when he married this chick or did he?? Im confused. And why in the he!! was Tatum listening to his boss getting it on?? I’m not passing judgment but these are adult men and that is just really strange to me.

by Blue42 on Aug 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just found an article on sprotsillustrated.com that answered some of my questions.

by Blue42 on Aug 13, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Link?

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 13, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel sorry for him, his family and the team.

Rick’s tenure here brought me some of my best basketball memories and for that reason, I’m gonna leave him alone. I hated his choice to go pro and hated even more his choice to coach Louisville but after all he did here, I can’t see taking shots at him while he is down.

I think deep down he knows he made a mistake when he left for the NBA and now he’s made a mistake in his personal life that will follow him to his grave. He’s probably carrying enough without me adding to his load with pithy comments and generic accusations. Here’s to banner number 6 Rick. That’s all that really counts to me about Rick Pitino. That and my love for the teams that played for him while he was here.

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by hoopchi on Aug 13, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can go 90% down that road.

But I cannot pretend the moral lapse was less than profound. This went well beyond an affair of the heart.

When you have willingly made yourself a public persona and embraced all that comes with it, including the financial remuneration associated with your ability to trade on that persona (books, speeches, endorsements, etc.), you HAVE to know that you cannot behave like that.

are a publicRick made himself a public personaWhen you make yourself a public persona and trade on that to your financial benefit, you must deamndhave to expect

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 13, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to add ...

that I can’t help wondering how his motivational speeches will change with this episode in his background.

No longer is it just that “I went to the Final Four, lost a child, won a national championship, got embarrassed in the NBA, lost a brother-in-law on 9/11, then went back to the Final Four with my 3rd team.”

Now it seems he has to add, “…and I impregnated some random woman during a wild sex romp in a public restautant with my assistant eavesdropping , then paid for the abortion and reported the woman to the FBI after she tried to extort hush money.”

That’s a helluva post script. The man has definitely had some peaks and valleys.

by Ken Pomeroy on Aug 13, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good for you.

I guess you’ve NEVER done something really stupid. And after drinking too much. Ahhhh…to be perfect!!! To dream.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 7:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I'm willing to bet he's never knocked someone up and paid for an abortion

Just saying……

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sideshow Hoze

Always looking for perfection. aaahhhhhhh to dream.

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we have a winner......

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Aug 13, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoze, I'm trying to understand your position here

You have always maintained that UK should not have hired Calipari because the university was “better than that” and did not need to associate itself with someone you believe has a shady character. I, and many of my fellow posters, disagreed with that opinion, but I at least respected it as logical, valid, and consistent. Keep in mind that all issues surrounding Calipari are really nothing more than rumor and innuendo, but I will grant that one can come to a defensible conclusion that Calipari is not always a straight arrow.

Now here you have prima facia evidence that Pitino has behaved in a morally reprehensible way. I do not intend to get into an abortion debate here at all – it is as simple as answering these question: “Does Pitino believe that what he did was wrong? Does Pitino think it is a big deal?” I don’t see how Pitino doesn’t answer “yes” to each question. Given that, and your demonstrated view of right vs. wrong, I’m curious as to why you are so ready to give him a pass here. This is not just about whether or not he should be fired – reasonable people can disagree. But you seem to be taking the position that this is all no big deal, and equivalent to having too much to drink and dancing around with a lampshade on your head.

Am I missing something here? How do you reconcile the two? Is this just another example of the famous Kissinger-ism of “he may be a bastard, but he’s our bastard?”

If Northwestern can do it, why can't we?

by NYCCats on Aug 13, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's easy.

As an employer there are many people I wouldn’t chose to hire based on character/actions/etc. However, those same disqualifiers would be looked at differently with someone that has worked for me for years and have proven himself in other areas.

What’s so difficult to understand?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I understand perfectly

Just please STFU the next time you feel like you need to climb up on your moral high horse in re Calipari, Wall, etc.

Because that horse just snapped a leg and needs to be put down.

If Northwestern can do it, why can't we?

by NYCCats on Aug 13, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

Hold on while I clean up the mess on my monitor … :-)

Hilarious.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

STFU????
You better stop it, you know that’s not allowed.

Thanks, Tru….I love using your example. Give it a try on someone else besides me.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

Tru, if you feel like the ban hammer needs to come down, swing away.

/not expecting to get banned, because you deserved it, and you know it.

If Northwestern can do it, why can't we?

by NYCCats on Aug 14, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to hoze -

it’s not difficult to understand. its call hypocritical double standard.

cheating/immoral behavior is wrong – before being hired and after being hired….

just sayin….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Aug 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take it that you never hired or fired anyone.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Good points all.

In the world of moral gray areas, surely impregnating a woman not your wife and at least having some role in the ultimate abortion HAS to be worse than misdemeanor breaking and entering, right?

Ahh, too bad UK sullied it’s good name by taking that Wall kid and his morally reprehensible B&E.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 13, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid

That’s an understatment. When you say “stupid” do you mean like oh say cheat on my wife with a random stranger in a public restaurant while my driver lays down somewhere in the building and then pay for random strangers abortion".

This is a looooong way from stupid.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 13, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay....I'll trust you in being the expert on stupid.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardy har har

Your comments are soooo intelligent.

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by davw83 on Aug 13, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

while my driver lays down somewhere in the building

This is still killing me!!!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to know that he was sneaking a peek....

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was late....he likely had more than a few.

You don’t get out and have fun much, do you?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Rick having fun now?

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting ...

how easy it is to defend a middle-aged man, and how easy it was to jump on a teen-ager for a minor indiscretion.

Seems that you weren’t willing to cut John Wall any slack at all, were you? Oh, I know. I know. You’ll be eager to say that Wall violated the law, and Pitino didn’t … yada, yada, yada.

But it is quite interesting how a 17-year old who is merely inside a house (that is for sale) can be demonized, but Pitino gets a pass.

I feel the need for a good analogy about now …

by jeffy on Aug 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasnt about Wall, it was about UK's decision.

Get it right if you are going to comment on my position.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I got it right ..

Why not look back at what you posted?

You even went so far as to make a comment along the lines of - ‘why isn’t he in school at that hour’.

A rush to judgement, which I noticed that you didn’t bother to retract after his principal stated that he was out of school by early afternoon.

Really, your constant comments like “Get it right” are boring. Get it right? I’m spot on.

 You demand consistency on the part of others, but you yourself remain completely inconsistent. And apparently proud of it.

If your comments about Wall were actually about UK’s decision, then shouldn’t you be leading the charge to have Pitino canned by Louisville?

Where’s the consistency?

by jeffy on Aug 14, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wise up.

My thoughts are consistent. If Wall was on the team, I wouldn’t have kicked him out. UK wasn’t obligated to bring him to the team. If he was on the team, it would and should have been looked at differently, especially if he had behaved himself and positively contributed for a few years on the team.

If Pitino was being recruited to coach and had not built up a long-term positive history with the school, I would argure vehemently to hire someone else. Pitino has done great things for the university and the community over the past 8 years.

My issues regarding Wall remained with UK. If you can’t realize that, I am sorry for you. I guess understanding nuance isn’t your strong point. Lastly, I don’t need to have someone like you tell me what I think, and what my position is. I get that at home from the wife.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So boring ...

and tiring reading your constant little sniping comments.

Really. You constantly revert to form with snide insults about other peoples intellectual capabilities, and then turn around and tell people that they can’t make judgements on you.

Your comment of “I don’t need someone like you to tell me …” is absolutely hilarious. Given your history of ranting at people that they are in no position to comment on you.

I am so tired of seeing your trolling here. This is the only blog I ever bother to try to follow, because most places are full of crud. And a little more junk from you, and I’ll be gone.

But, you could do a lot of people a favor and just behave in a consistent fashion.

And quit with the snide comments. I am an intelligent human being. I didn’t buy my Ph.D on ebay. I know subtlety. And I know when someone is getting his jollies by just trying to be an irritant and a gadlfy.

by jeffy on Aug 14, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boring???

…and yet you find the need to reply twice. It seems like a proud owner of a Ph.D would have more productive things to do…like explaing why Cummings writings would be more fluent with proper capitalization or how Joyce needs punctuation.

Hilarious? I certainly am no more hilarious than self conceived ‘book brains’ like you that need to parade around and trumpet ‘I have a PhD!!! I am smart!!’

Go back to the library and continue to work on your self importance.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You WIN!

I’m done.

THIS IS MY LAST POST HERE. AFTER THIS, I WILL NOT POST AGAIN HERE. Most likely I won’t be back to read anything.

So, go ahead. You can have the last word. Give me your best shot.

And you can feel proud that you’ve helped mold the world so it looks more like you.

I am SOOOOOO stupid. Here I was believing that you were just a jerk. But, now I see how sensitive and thoughtful you are. How could I have been so wrong? Looking back at all of your posts I am struck by how much you truly care about people.

If only I could emulate you. My life would finally have some meaning.

TO EVERYONE ELSE: it’s been fun here. I haven’t posted much but I have enjoyed the comments and (mostly) good-natured exchange.

So long and thanks for all the fish! :D

by jeffy on Aug 14, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeffy,

I can only tell you what everyone told me about him……IGNORE him…..dont respond to his posts and if he responds to yours…..IGNORE him…..I have been doing it for about 2 weeks now and I feel wonderful since then…..he is not worth the effort or the stress it takes to try and get through to him….besides his information on almost every subject is flawed anyway

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 14, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ABC, didnt your mama tell you??

Nobody likes a quitter.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 5:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

AHhhhh.....dont go away.

Come back. I’ll give you a nice virtual hug.

I’m sorry you couldn’t take it like Mr. Verbose {aka ABC} couldn’t. I’ll be extra nice to you. Honest.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Nuance

Have you ever thought that maybe your just not great at conveying nuance.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 14, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay. Thanks for the heads-up.

I know now that I will have to try especially hard with you.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

" . . . a tale told by an idiot,

full of sound and fury, signifying nothing . .

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Aug 14, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok so

How do you feel about UofL completely ignoring Rick P’s actions?

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 14, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have gone from hiring him....to sitting on the fence....to leaning toward keeping him.

However, I am not all the way there….yet.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Firing him, not hiring him.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right!

That’s what I’m saying too!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he likely had more than a few.

I thought it was mentioned that Tatum was the designated driver for the Theus celebration??

And, yes, I do get out some and even have some fun, but I guess not the kind of fun where you need to lay down and listen to people having sex.

Come on, Hoze! That’s just WEIRD!!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

i thought everyone did it in public……..guess i need to get back in the closet.

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Its really not the public sex on this one – its the guy LAYING down in the restaurant!! He wasnt the one having sex! Why was he laying down??

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, well it beats renting porn i guess

those late fees can be intolerable. not to mention the questionable sticky substances on the cases.

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're ok with

public sex but weirded out by someone else being there…..that’s pretty funny. :-)

by wldcatsfreak on Aug 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

NO! That’s SO not what I meant – lol! I just meant that is not what I was talking about in that particular post. I was talking about poor ol’ tired Vinny – kept out so late that he just had to lay down, and bluecrip responded about public sex.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry tink

didn’t mean to make your comments become misconstrued i know you like public sex just not with others watching. :)

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you were kidding.

lol – It was only your comment that made me realize how mine sounded! :)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me.....your wonderment and obsession over this is a little weird.

Just sayin’

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obsession?

I’m not really sure that a few comments on a message board justify an “obsession.”

Just sayin’.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm young and hit bars often. Many times I have too much.

I don’t sleep on restaurant floors after the place is closed (nor when it’s still open).

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 13, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Well, when I was in Hawai’i (in my youth, of course), we used to sleep wherever we could find a spot on or near the beach after the bars closed. Of course, the security people would move us around, but it was way better than the floor of any bar. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I will stay quiet on my examples.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he needed confirmation that he

could still get it up

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Public Persona...

I really don’t see why being a public persona should make it any different. Mistakes you make affect the people around you whether you are a public persona or not. One problem I have with our country is this fascination with elevating people as if they were better or more important than anyone else. Sports stars and rock stars and reality stars get paid millions while teachers and garbage men eke out a living despite the fact that their work is subjectively speaking more important. Regardless of any financial remuneration, we all know we should not act like that. But humanity sometimes gets in the way. I don’t think it is fair to apply a stricter standard of action to someone just because he’s been elevated by our culture.

Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi

by hoopchi on Aug 13, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is Pitino staying really good for his kids (players)

I would think a resignation would be at hand…. is it really in the best interest of his players? What kind of reaction is Louisville going to get at every game, especially away game if RP shows up on the court???

by phrohg on Aug 13, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Penny for your sypher!!!!

hey Spitino can you de-sypher this code?

what an ultramaroon!!!! the chants will go on n on n on n on n on!!!!! live by the sword die by the sword.

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ultramaroon -- BWAHAHA!

Nose-coffee time. Man, I love Bugs Bunny. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hate to say this but Bugs was one of

my heroes growing up. or should i say mel blanc and co. the witticisms and jokes made life easier growing up.

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else ever wonder...

which part people in the public eye truely feel bad about……the offensive acts they committed or the fact that everything came to light?

Makes you wonder how genuine the apology is. Are they sorry they did whatever it is they happen to be apologizing for or acting contrite b/c they got caught?

by wldcatsfreak on Aug 13, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

acting contrite because they got caught

if they were truly sorry they would have come forth on their own and shared before they public learned of it through another source.

definitely acting!!!!!!!

I LOVE COOKING WITH WINE
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

by bluecrip on Aug 13, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"So Tim, how did you and your wife meet?"

“Well…my boss brought her to my place to pay for her abort… err, ‘health insurance’ one night. From that day on, I just knew she was the one…”

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Aug 13, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, dear.

The jokes that this will generate will be a boil on the neck of Card fans for a long, long time. A couple of years at the very least. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can think of at least three Visa "Prceless"

commercials right now…..and I wasnt even trying hard….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pasta Primavera.....$20

House wine……$40
Abortion…..$3000
Wearing a condom when you are nailing a crazy whore……..Priceless

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooooohhhhhhhhh......lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoho!

Very funny. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

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by davw83 on Aug 13, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG btcoop

That was just way too much!!! Hilarious

by kykat51 on Aug 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 14, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ROFL

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Aug 14, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha coop...

Thanks to our resident photo guy :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Aug 14, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just steal them from other people......lol

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 14, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you always

come through and post them… LOL :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Aug 14, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Tim Sypher guy must have low self esteem

Even lower than Joanne Pitino’s…….

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Easy!

Let’s leave the wife out of this

by chstrckwl on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pitino

With all that has and is being said———-I have to agree with Ken Pomery. But when all is said and done Mr. Pitino
will have to answer to his maker. My heart goes out to his family (they are the ones who count)! Mr. Pitino is a little man that became too BIG. 9-11, no I did not know anyone personally or was related to any individual who perished in the most tragic event in American History, but I saw heros rise from the ashes, that have surely earned their halos. 9-11 cracked the very foundation of the Grand Ole Country and we are still trying to shore things up.
Life throws us many curve balls and how we handel them is up to us. Mr. Pitino has opened himself up to the public and will pay the price one way or another. SAD—-SAD—-SAD

As far as I am concerned it’s all OLD News and I am tired of the stage performance. If Pitino gets thrown over the side of the boat?? Well I hope he can swim!!!!!!!!! (at least tread water)

by kentuckystrong on Aug 13, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mariotti getting his 2 cents in

He is the blowhard to end all bowhards, but makes a few good points. Ends by saying Pitino should resign

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

I dislike Mariotti, a lot. I can’t find myself agreeing with him on anything.

Can Louisville forgive him? Maybe not. Can U of L? Absolutely. Will it affect recruiting? I don’t think so.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um...
Fox 41 News played a phone message Karen Sypher says she got from Pitino six years ago, after she told him she was pregnant.

Transcription follows:

http://fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=10921650&nav=menu1404_1

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 13, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just have one question.

How … foolish is it to leave a message on the phone of a woman you just had illicit sex with?

I have two words for this revelation — staggering stupidity.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am having a really hard time

understanding the thinking of all these people. Where are some people’s brains? Who knows if this is a legit phone message. This whole story is beginning to sound like the latest soap opera from hell. Having sex on a table, under a table or somewhere close to the table while a friend listens or watches the door, who really knows? This story is getting more bizarre as the sand in the hourglass sifts.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Aug 13, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Sypher has a witness on record as saying that Pitino

offered to buy her a car and a house….admittedly this is her son, but she has this on record…..tell me that this extortion trial is not going to get messy for him……he would have been better off to have given her 2-3 million and gotten a non-disclosure agreement….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Ricky.........

you got some ’splainin to do!

by slidemank on Aug 13, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it's her son. Good to see that you recognize that. How insightful.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A woman knows she is pregnant two weeks after sex???

I need to go back to 7th grade to freshen up on that sex ed class.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 13, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How soon???

As a hospital employee who works in a lab….pregnancy can be determined within about 48 after conception, so actually she was a little slow on the know. Also all things Pitino are just SCUM!

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by Magnoliacat on Aug 14, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

48 hours

that is.

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know that magnoliacat

Because I was having doubts myself on the timimg.

by kykat51 on Aug 14, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.

But it doesn beg the question: If that is the case, why would a woman run to a hospital for a pregnancy test within two weeks?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Aug 14, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the risk of "too much information"

She didnt have to “run to the hospital” it is possible that she discovered it on her own and then went to the hospital. Here goes:

If she was in her third week of her cycle when the affair took place and got pregnant, she would have missed her regularly scheduled week four period. She would have noticed this and then set up an appointment with her doctor.

Again, I apologize for the “TMI” of this comment, but I just wanted to establish that the two week timeframe IS possible.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh... I'll put on my teacher's hat here

Ovulation generally occurs on Day 14 of the Ovarian Cycle. This is approximately one week after the end of menstruation. The egg is then viable for 24 hours. If no sperm is present in the fallopian tubes at that time, no fertilization occurs and the cycle repeats itself the next month.

That’s right folks… there are exactly 12 days out of the entire year when a woman can get pregnant. If you’ve ever had an unwanted pregnancy… you have amazingly bad luck!!!

A change in the levels of Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin (HCG) is the most common basis of home pregnancy tests and can be detected as early as a week later.

As to why Sypher would race to find out, I’d say we can only speculate… but crazy chicks have done more for less.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Aug 14, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to ASoB's resident doc :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Aug 14, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry so late

Just checked all this nonsense from our resident out! Panty hozer, you just never learn do ya? Better check out things with Mr. T Meiners, I don’t think this was RP’s first rodeo. Do you know the difference between an apology, and true repentance? I think not. Repentance is not an apology. It is a verb. It expresses action. It is the turning around and going in the opposite direction. Of course there are females in that direction as well. But repentance means it’s no longer in your heart. When one truly knows God, The love affair they have WITH HIM is the most compelling evidence. Rick needs our prayers, but it’s Gods forgiveness he needs most of all.

When a great nation falls, it falls from within. There is only two ways to do this. One must "take" power by force, or when the other side simply "gives" it to them. me

by blubloodcatfan on Aug 14, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesnt usually happen

but it is completely possible.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Shirt

“Hey Vinny – Why were you laying down??” LOL!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha.

It’s so pathetic, it’s hilarious. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vinnie, I mean. Not your shirt.

And how cool is it that the guy’s name is Vinnie? Oh dear. Visions of Sonny Corleone with Lucy Mancini …

Man, comics are just going to have a field day with this.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My cousin Vinnie?

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Judge Not...

I know that power corrupts and it is possible for any of us to make a mistake like this and even more so when temptation is ubiquitous. I will not judge Pitino for this. His wife may judge. His boss may. UL players and fans have more right to judge. I have no authority to judge as I am not affected by this and could only judge as one man judging another. Or as one who loves to see the mighty fall.

Now, with that said, I think as UK fans we run the risk of giving this too much attention and become the same haters we have so rallied against when it comes to Coach Cal. (I say this understanding that Coach Cal has not been implemented in an affair or any other moral charge. )

by LyricSmith on Aug 13, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Society, though, has judged. Long ago. The Catholics have judged.

I guess one judgment more or less won’t be missed. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and ...

… I don’t think there has been much hating going on. I think most people are at least somewhat sympathetic to Pitino, and hope this heals as quickly as possible. I know I do.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, not much

And I find it very classy and indicative of this site.

by LyricSmith on Aug 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooof.

I wish someone would write a story about a new UK t-shirt or post a video of John Wall dunking on God or something…anything to get this story moved down. It depresses me to no end.

I probably shouldn’t write this on a UK fan site and I’m sure I’ll regret it later, but here it goes: I “sold my soul” many years ago as far as Pitino goes. I thought he was a showy ass when he coached UK and I thought it was kind of funny when he failed in the pros, but I welcomed him to Louisville because he was by far the best hire available. I ignored my past feelings toward him because I thought he could help the program, and he did (though of course a championship would have been nice). Heck, I even learned to appreciate his ability to piss people off, since I was no longer one of those people.

What I’m trying to say is “Hypocrisy is a stern taskmaster,” so I’ll be supporting Louisville basketball like I’ve been doing all of my life and as long as Rick Pitino is a part of Louisville basketball I’ll support him as well.

Note: I say this fully believing the sex, however elicit it may have been, was consensual. If I thought this woman was raped I of course would not support her attacker.

by don'tshootmei'macard on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rock on

I’m sure many of us would be twisting ourselves in knots trying to explain this away if it were Calipari (not everyone, but a sizable group). At least you are being honest about where/why you stand.

But as you know, he’s still a low-life scumbag – have fun dealing with that overhang all year.

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by NYCCats on Aug 13, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

I think most strong fans probably feel the same way. To be honest, I hate that this has happened, and I’ve always respected Pitino for what he did at UK and for his coaching talents. This is unfortunate for him, his family, UofL fans, UofL students, and for many UK fans.

If Coach Calipari did something similar, I would neither want nor expect him to be fired.

That being said, I am enjoying the jokes right now.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 13, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You honestly have our sympathy Card.......

this is something that no fan should have to endure…..but kudos for sticking with it and not knuckling down to the pressure…..takes guts…..you would make an excellent UK fan…..should you ever choose to join the party

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by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 13, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally ...

… agree with the note.

Obviously, I’ll leave supporting the Cardinals to Card fans. Myself, I feel regret for Pitino, I am fine with his apology, and I wish he and his family a speedy recovery from this mess.

And I certainly don’t hold your love of program or “Hypocrisy” (what you are describing is not hypocrisy, but cognitive dissonance and getting to know Pitino. Many people use the word hypocrisy really, really wrongly) against you. Were our places reversed, I may well do the same.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pinto

i dont think this could happen to a nicer guy.

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by Magnoliacat on Aug 14, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rape? No. Witnesses? No.

I don’t believe for a heartbeat that Rick raped this bimbo. But I do believe that this so-called witness/eavesdropper/voyeur is a cover story. If he really was there, I’d love to have his job as a designated driver. I thought only goverrnment employees got jobs that they actually didn’t have to perform. Oh, yeah, I guess he is a government employee. Anyone in the Attorney General’s office interested?

by UKCat on Aug 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't chimed in here in awhile, but...

it smells rotten. Why would anyone with any character cite a national tragedy to help justify a personal indiscretion?

It isn’t seemly, and if there is one thing that will sell Rick’s side of the story, it is the appearance that this one “indiscretion” is anomalous with his presumably upstanding character. Blaming 9/11 certainly isn’t going to cut it, and moreover, it casts a pall on the public perception of his morality.

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by SD_UK_FAN on Aug 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well ...
it smells rotten. Why would anyone with any character cite a national tragedy to help justify a personal indiscretion?

… I do wish he had left that out. It looks … what is the word … contrived. Unseemly is also a good take.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forty -

may be your best post ever. not because it is short, but because it is right….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Aug 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Tink

I really have trouble understanding this guy laying on the floor. Was he thinking, ’I’ll just go to sleep and maybe when I wake up it will all be a bad dream?’

I don’t know, wouldn’t you think he’d have walked outside or something when things began to get weird?Or did this type of thing happen frequently enough that he was so nonplussed he just laid down for a nap?

And here’s one more thought. Knowing you are pregnant within 14 days of conception is pretty impressive. er, amazing, er, questionable.

by StillCatwoman on Aug 13, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Laying on the floor

I find this guy laying on the floor and the Tim Sypher parts of this story absolutley incredulous.

Im litteraly speechless that not only is there one but two of these guys who think what they were doing was a good idea.

If im this guy am i thinking " Well my boss and this random chick are having sex in that booth over there. I think i’ll just lay down here on the floor and listen until they are finished. Then even though Im his DD ill let this chick who has been drinking all night drive him home." WTF.

If im Tim Sypher am i thinking " Here is my boss and his one night stand. He is paying her money for an abortion and using my condo to meet her so he isnt found out. She seems like a great candidate for marriage."

You can dream this crap up. What goes on inside these people’s heads.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cant

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Literally!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know

it would certainly help explain why Tim Sypher would marry a woman that he met the first time at a meeting in his condo to arrange a money exchange for an abortion for a pregnancy that resulted from a one night stand that she had with his boss.

Just sayin’.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Self Respect

It wouldnt explain the complete lack of self respect Sypher seems to have for himself though.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 14, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly

If he “sold his soul” so to speak, I could see the total loss of self-respect.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you hearing

this from an even remotely credible source????

by wldcatsfreak on Aug 14, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Source

Karen Sypher said she believes that Pitino paid Tim to marry her in this article.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090814/NEWS0103/908140378/Accuser++Pitino+plotted+against+her

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or did this type of thing happen frequently enough that he was so nonplussed he just laid down for a nap?

That’s it!! We’ve got the manager/owner giving Rick the keys to “lock up when he leaves.” Vinny must have a cot there! This obviously wasnt a one-time deal. LOL! ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You and I are soo bad.

And someday we are going to have girls night out in Lexington, and celebrate our mutual birthdays.

by StillCatwoman on Aug 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

to funny.

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Aug 14, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh you might

Knowing those 2 when they get out on the town together. I just can just imagine yes from their personalities here on ASOB ;-)

by kykat51 on Aug 14, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ABSOLUTELY!!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fascinated by the difference ASOB and the Cardinal Blogs on this

ASOB hasn’t been negative or gloating for the vast majority of posts. We’ve been sad and analytical. The Cards seemed indifferent or thought this was blown out of proportion. Many just wanted to move on. And there were far fewer posts their too. Any one have any thoughts on this. Are/were we rubberkneckers at the scene of an accident? Or were the Card bloggers indifferent, ashamed, sad too, or stunned? Just found this interesting.

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by cincyblue on Aug 13, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's tough ...

… to comment about stuff like this when it’s your coach embarrassing the program.

If you’ll notice, when UK was really going bad last year, tumbleweeds were blowing through this place no matter how many posts I put up. When hopeful news hit, the crowd was everywhere.

When your program is having trouble, most fans just don’t want to talk about bad news. They don’t even want to read about it.

If we were talking about Calipari after he had been here eight years, it would be similar. Nobody wants to talk about stuff like this when it is their program. Your reference to rubbernecking is kind of apt, I think.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tru,

without counting, I can’t agree about the tumbleweeds. There was a hard core of posters involved when things got bad. We got a lot more activity when Coach Cal was hired, including a lot of new arrivals, but a lot of names that were regulars in the “bad old” days of the 2008-2009 season are still here.

I just haven’t been able to bring myself to comment on this whole affair. Too sad and weird for words. Suffice to say I agree with Tink.

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Aug 13, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can appreciate that.

Totally.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 13, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

The regulars were all here during the downtimes. During the Gillispie termination/Calipari hiring, lots of folks came out of the woodwork – some new, but now regular, appreciated commenters, others blowhards that have mostly returned to the woodwork.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Aug 14, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gillispie termination

By far one of the roughest times to be a “regular” for me, but I was around. ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You keep up the good work Tink......

you do well at the moral compass role for some of us that get a little too loud at times…..

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Aug 14, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about the spelling

their should be there and between should be added to the subject line, before ASOB

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Aug 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think many are ashamed and sad.

Not necessarily stunned. And yes I’ve seen some indifferent comments along the way.

It’s not good in anyway for Pitino and UL. But they will get through it.

by kykat51 on Aug 13, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most I have seen

Since his apology last night are with him as staying.

by kykat51 on Aug 13, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m sad and ashamed just because of what Rick Pitino stands for in our state. Basketball is one thing that comes to mind when somebody mentions Kentucky and Rick has been part of that for many years (9 at UK and 9 at UL correct me if Im wrong) This has not only hurt the image of UL but the image of the entire Commonwealth in my opinion. I know this type of thing is more acceptable nowadays, but it’s still kinda embarrassing for me as a Kentuckian. I have lived in Kentucky all my life except for a year where I lived in TN and I have great pride for this state. I am a UK fan but have respect for Louisville just because Im proud that we have these two great teams.if our state. Not trying to get all melodratic but this has really been a bummer. Plus I’m sure I will catch hell when I visit my friends back in TN.

by Blue42 on Aug 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitino's new Instructional video, (wink)

With the news of Pitino’s ‘indiscretion’ comes the release of his new instructional Video—it’s a shame they happened at the exact same time…or is it?

Reviews:

“Coach Pitino covers a wide range of moves…”
“Coach Pitino, normally a fast pace performer, covers late in the ‘game’ strategies…

Chapter, 4 “When to pull it out”. (This chapter was a little vague, this may explain some things.)

Chapter, 5 “When to go one on one” (This chapter didn’t explain what to do with the other ‘players’ who might be present—also explaining some things).

Chapter, 6 “How to penetrate”—needs no explanation…

Chapter, 7 “How to prepare for Midnight Madness”—covers selecting the right venue…(again with the vague).

Chapter, 9 “Knowing your competition”, Wow, this was the weakest chapter of all", again with the explains a lot.

Missing were, “Home COURT advantage”, When to press, and my most antcipated, "How to take it to the HOLE " , and my all time favorite, ’how to stop him from dribbling before he shoots."

All in all this book lacked heat and was, at least for me, anticlimactic…

Just me…

 

by lrsky on Aug 13, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Irsky, you slay me. . .

If Northwestern can do it, why can't we?

by NYCCats on Aug 14, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a general rule

I usually do not go to TCP. This thread though, as Tru would say, is offered without comment.

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by btcoop71 on Aug 14, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too Funny

Ok – sorry, but I just cant pass this one up!

If you go to Rick Pitino’s website and click “Enter Website” one of the first things that pops up says, (ready for this??):

Restaurant Review: Click here for a list of Rick Pitino’s favorite restaurants – exclusive special!

Needless to say, the list has been removed.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Aug 14, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

okay that is hilarious

Ya know, I have been wondering if this has been good for or bad for business at the restaurant in question.

by StillCatwoman on Aug 14, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bizarre circumstances ...

lead me to believe this was commonplace and routine. Why else does the owner of the place give up his keys and skedaddle and the other guy stick around? If this was not a usual thing a friend would be sending the woman home in a taxi and getting his friend home too.

by jpbluekat on Aug 14, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Intrerestingly enough ...

… it is also illegal to do that for a restaurant with a liquor license.

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by Truzenzuzex on Aug 15, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately yes

They did by the ABC laws in Ky. I don’t think this was one event at all. The owner just not do this as it against the law. IMO it had been going on for a while and was common with Pitino.

by kykat51 on Aug 15, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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