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The news today is fairly pedestrian -- Dave Stengal will not pursue charges against Pitino (shock -- the FBI also declined to do so, also citing credibility and evidence problems), Billy Gillispie is writing a book, and UK is asking the state for $100,000 to fend off the lawsuit he filed against the UKAA.

More on these, and lots of others below.

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  • SLAM ONLINE | " 09 SEC Recruiting Breakdown
    Nice stuff from SLAM online. The SEC has really done well recruiting this year, not just UK, although UK has inarguably done the best.

  • World Wide Wes and Coach Cal: A History
    Interesting read.

  • Patrick Patterson underrated?
    Wow. Jason King, a Duke alum and fan, picks Patrick Patterson. Who would have thought that? But he makes some very sound points.
  • John Calipari Talks About Nike Peach Jam, Recruiting | WJBF
    Some interesting comments from Coach Cal, particularly about recruiting and the "one and done" rule.

  • UK’s Patterson ascending to legendary status
    An almost lock lottery pick for this year’s NBA draft, Patterson decided to stay and live out college life. That’s his decision and we should applaud him for making a choice as such. Far too often, college teenagers the quick road to the NBA and don’t experience college for what it is. Patterson isn’t one of those people.

    I can't quite agree with this. Patterson could be a lottery pick, but he is a tweener, as many have noted on here. The NBA drafts more on potential than development, so I am not nearly as sanguine as this guy.

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The Daily Schadenfreude

  • Rivals.com College Football - Despite struggles, Cards' Kragthorpe confident
    Kragthorpe is big on motivational ploys. In 2007, he carried a baseball bat around the football complex as a way of symbolically telling players to be "better after today," a pledge to improve after each practice. He also put mousetraps around the locker room to remind players not to overlook foes.

    Huh? Baseball bat? What kind of motivation are we talking about here?  Mousetraps?  Yikes.

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The guy that wrote that

“How to Irritate an SEC Fan” was the funniest thing I have read in a long time……he was like Hoze….with a sense of humor…..and some sense…..I commented on Coach’s statements at Peach Jam yesterday, I hope that a few people now realize he doesnt care if he has one and done’s or not.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 15, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Maizenbrew Dave ...

… has been a friend of mine since I began blogging on A Sea of Blue, back in the old Scoop days. He is one of the great bloggers on SBNation, and a regular read for me.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I started to join just to comment

then I realized my Ohio State loving kin would have me barbequed…..lol…..its almost like following the Cardinals….lol….cant do it…..tried it….couldnt do it…..gives me the hives….i dont know how to inhale….lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find it is good entertainment pissing off OSU fans

It is easy, they get all worked up…..good times.

Hoze tries to do the same here.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jul 16, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I grew up loving Ohio State football

and even had the paperwork to go to school up there, was applying for a music scholarship….decided against it….didnt want to be broke all my life…..then I ended up being broke anyway….lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually ...

… I was a fan of Ohio State back when I grew up as well. Probably because they were on TV so much where I lived.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Treasonous pronouncements from our fearless leader!

Because they are on TV a lot is not a reason to watch them, it’s a reason to throw a brick through the tele:)

by Ken Howlett on Jul 17, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no Tru
Probably because they were on TV so much where I lived.

So does that mean you were are a Cubs/Braves fan too?

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jul 17, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have never ...

… been a fan of any baseball team other than the Reds. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 17, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Rarely Agree With Decourcy

But had UK done ANY due diligence in 2007, the mess of 2009 would not have been necessary.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I Agree With His Answer To Question 4 As Well

which is that the one OOC bball game he would like to see this fall is UK vs KU….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jul 15, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna play them twice.....once in the reg season and beat them, and once

in the natl champ……..and destroy them!

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I will ask this question

Does UK have any precedent concerning it’s position about the MOU? I know we hashed all of this out a while back, but I cannot remember ever getting an answer to that….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 15, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

A few thoughts...

-I lived in Las Vegas from Oct. 2002 until May 2006. What brought me back to Louisville? The Chic -fil-A sandwich.

-The state is so flush with cash, why not spend 100 grand so one of the wealthiest sports programs in the country can weasel out of its obligations?

-I have a suggestion about what else Kragthorpe can do with that baseball bat (Hint: It involves the bat and his ass).

by don'tshootmei'macard on Jul 15, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay ...

… Nose-coffee alert. That last line, though off-color, got me good. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if the last chapter of Billy’s book will be about fleecing Twiddle Dum and Twiddle Dee? You’d think Barnhart would have sought out someone in a legal department to see if the MOU was binding and what you would have to do to void it without giving a way the farm to someone. Barnhart had to know early in the 2008-09 season he wasn’t going to cut it. After the ‘he doesn’t fit’ speech is hardly the time to look for answers. Barnhart didn’t fire him with out Todd’s approval, so why didn’t the President of the University, look into the matter also?
He probably looked into it about as much as he did the Calipari and Memphis mess. There was no blood showing so it can’t be that bad can it?

by TheParisGuy on Jul 15, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

They did look into it.

They simply reached the wrong conclusion.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Tru...

assuming you mean on the first matter not the second… :)

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jul 16, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Fixer

In previous times William Wesley would be referred to as a fixer. History is replete with them and especially those fields plenipotent with influence and celebrity: politics, entertainment and finance. Ministers without portfolio, if you will, with no apparent title, responsibility or means of support but always with a presence and a presumed power of determination.

"The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen to be the most useful as well as the most productive source of national wealth, and has accordingly become a primary object of its political cares."

--Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, 27 November 1787

by Wild Weasel on Jul 15, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I love your posts WW

they keep the thesaurus/dictionary set on my desk from getting dusty. Plenipotent, my word of the day.

by Ontherocks on Jul 16, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've done some fixin'

It’s just a matter of knowing people who have mutual professional interests and introducing them. When it works out, it gives you a good feeling. There is nothing wrong with being a fixer. It is a brokering role. Like a real estate broker. You put willing sellers and willing buyers together. Or you match up great high school basketball players with great college coaches.

I’m not going to detail any of the introductions I have made because I must remain somewhat obscure to fit your definition of a “fixer.”

by Fortunatus on Jul 16, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We say how to irritate a SEC fan, how about how to irritate a UL fan?

This does it every time.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jul 16, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

say = saw

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jul 16, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Funny. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love it J L....funny 'toon

6 years old and one sheet of paper? A book project for 3 years? Hmm……very interesting…I wonder how the MOU plays in all of this…….Now for the rest of the story or maybe the rest of the page…..LOL….Time will tell, I suppose….
:-)

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by a2d2 on Jul 16, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billy's Book

I will TOTALLY buy one.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jul 16, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

OMG NO WAY SHOCKER

just kidding, girl : ) I do admire loyalty.

by blue kentucky girl on Jul 17, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Well, I AM loyal if nothing else! ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jul 17, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again, Tru....

… your time and effort spent researching and providing daily links is sincerely appreciated by an ASoB reader. In this case, the reader being me.

Ever since local (and professional) sports writer Mark Story took a sloppy and LAZILY researched swipe at William Wesley in a late March article titled “Is Calipari the right guy for UK?” , placing WWW at the very top of his list of questions that Dr. Todd “better have asked” of Calipari before the hiring— I have looked forward to some follow ups from Story on the WWW front. After all, if Coach Cal’s ties to WWW is truly “the next big recruiting scandal waiting to explode”, as Story wonders if it might be, then surely a professional like Story has been digging around among his contacts and sources to follow up, and provide some ORIGINAL content, on such a monumentally important question. If not, then Story’s ominous warning about WWW could be taken as nothing more than a petty and lazy swipe at the new coach DISGUISED as a dire and important question that “better have been asked”.

Alas, as nothing ORIGINAL from the local professional sports writer appears to be on the horizon, I am really appreciative of a couple of the links that you have provided in the last couple of days. First, Tuesday’s “Which Set of Wildcats Will Land Gilchrist?” entry that in turn made reference to a very good article by Seth Davis, that shed at least a little light on WWW courtesy of Gilchrist’s mother and high school basketball coach; and then yesterday’s link to the SouthEastern Wildcat Review blog which makes an effort to fill in a fuller portrait of WWW than just ticking time bomb waiting to explode all over Big Blue Nation.

The point? That since the day one of my brothers first told me about ASoB several months ago, I have made it my habit to look here FIRST for all things concerning UK Basketball (and I’ll assume football as well as the season draws closer). And by first, I mean well BEFORE clicking on the Herald-Leader’s website. Blogs are succeeding in large part, we can all see, because they are really trying to work hard and succeed.

I have no idea how the WWW story will play out at UK— good or bad. But then, I am not a professionaly paid sports writer who has dubbed WWW as potentially the #1 reason to have passed on the Calipari hire. What I do know is that if a storm starts brewing on that front I don’t really expect the current roster of local professionals to be the ones out in front checking wind speeds and shaking sources. They will be at home waiting for the reports to be attached to ready made internet links— easily digestable in 30 minutes or less. A case of “See, I told you so!” made easy.

I am having somewhat mixed emotions as I watch the Herald-Leader slowly evaporate before our eyes (how many pages is it down to now?)—- but one group I will not miss when the final nail has been driven into the coffin are the local sports writers. Those guys have bullet-listed their way into irrelevance.

by Sonic on Jul 16, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

longest post i have actually read all of in a while.....

a couple of comments:

you start with “Ever since local (and professional) sports writer” – i have to say you are half right – he is a local sports writer. :)

other than the occasional glance at john clay, i do not go to the HL at all any more – especially the “discussion” boards – and i use the word discussion loosely.

i too have mixed emotions on the demise of local papers as i will miss going out to get the paper and reading a hard copy. there is something about having “all the news thats fit to print” actually in your hands. that being said, i spend 15 minutes going through the local memphis paper and multiples of that time reading thru news on the internet……

guess print news papers are bound to go the way of rail roads……

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jul 16, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In years past...

one could pick up the Herald-Leader and either see some SERIOUS, Pulitzer Prize winning dirt digging (Eddie Sutton scandal era) — or some SERIOUSLY talented writing (the Chuck Culpepper era).

Today, not only do we not get writing anywhere CLOSE to the level of a Culpepper, we don’t even get full paragraphs half the time— just some random thoughts in bullet list format from guys with real names like “Mark Story”, but could JUST AS EASILY come from fan site posters with names like ‘jayhawkrulez’ or ‘calaparsuks873’.

It is like the paper is not only dying— but not even putting up a fight for itself in the process. I guess I am just old enough to find that a little bit sad.

by Sonic on Jul 16, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Culpepper

I still remember the day I learned he was leaving. Hated it! He is/was a great sportswriter.

Kudos to your bro for steering you here!

by Ken Howlett on Jul 17, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ken, I agree entirely...

with both of those statements.

As a kid, there were a couple of years when I made scrapbooks of UK basketball seasons/players, using mostly articles cut out of the newspaper, etc. (I also wallpapered my bedroom walls with those hand-drawn posters that were done during the Joe Hall years.) I really do believe that if there was a young (or perhaps even not so young!) person out there wanting to make a scrapbook of current seasons/players, they would be just as well off (if not better!) to print out the articles that you guys running this blog are providing, as to cut articles out of the current local paper. Not only is there an obvious amount of hard work and thought that you guys are putting in, but the quality of writing is high, as well.

Think how enjoyable it would be to have our old wordsmith Chuck Culpepper back in the local media to cover Coach Cal and his team in this highly anticipated upcoming season… (maybe we could use the money we would have spent on that 13th player to lure Culpepper back to town….. <just kidding!>)

by Sonic on Jul 17, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

"and UK is asking the state for $100,000 to fend off the lawsuit he filed against the UKAA."

What a bunch of bologna. Sorry UK administration, you guys pretty much effed this whole thing up from the start with Billy G. You got money to pay Calapari, don’t ask the broke state to cover your losses.

by daniel81 on Jul 16, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I will admit

that I haven’t read the specifics as to why UK is asking the state for the $$, but personally, I think it’s embarrassing. In this economy? Shame on them.

by BigSkyCat on Jul 16, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I work at another state university in Kentucky and let’s just say that the perception of other insitutions of UK on this is far from positive.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jul 16, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you gals

and any guys too…..$100K….Shame on them….
:-)

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by a2d2 on Jul 16, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We often disagree, daniel,

but on this one I’m with you 100%.

Settle the damn thing and be done with it.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Jul 16, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

One point-

I agree that no matter the cost, the state should not be paying for this. However, I can’t figure out how long this would be. Tru says “one month’s work” above, but the article quotes the following:

“The law firm’s contract is not to exceed $100,000 from June 23 to June 30, 2010.”

That’s one YEAR of work if I’m reading it as meaning June 23, 2009 through June 30, 2010.

I work for one of the larger and likely more expensive law firms in the state, and based on this case, $100,000 for one year’s work isn’t that bad (often these types of cases involving fraud, etc. can run anywhere from $20K to $50K/month from a defense standpoint). Fischer and Phillips’s rates in Texas are likely 1/4 more than ours here, so really $25K to $65K/month is realistic without a flat fee agreement.

Still, the taxpayers shouldn’t have to foot the bill.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Jul 16, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to take point-counterpoint here,

but is the state offsetting any other costs to it by providing the $$$ to them and sving themselves $$$ later? I just cannot believe that the state gives up another 100k with the budget crisis without looking into it to find out if it would save them money later??

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this part.

The law firm of Fisher & Phillips will be paid through an insurance policy, according to information the university provided to the Government Contract Review Committee.

What type of “insurance policy” are they talking about? Anyone have an idea?

by kykat51 on Jul 16, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering about that myself there kat.....

I have never heard of such a policy…..it may be out there, but I have never seen it in 15 years in this business…..and I do a lot of commercial insurance.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smart Organizations

(both public and private)) carry “errors and omissions” insurance. When there is a suit, the insurance company provides the legal counsel under the terms of the insurance policy. Under state law, a state agency — in this case UK — has to enter into a personal services contract with a law firm even though an insurance company may be paying the bill.

The Kentucky Legislature requires that all state agencies (of which UK is one) bring any personal services contract before a legislative committee, a procedure designed to keep the governor from directing personal service contracts to political cronies. No direct state tax money is involved in this situation. The insurance premium is most likely paid by the athletic association, which gets no state money.

This is bureaucracy and good government politics at work. It is cumbersome, but the taxpayers are not getting screwed by UK.

by Fortunatus on Jul 16, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah the Errors and Omissions Policy

I don’t know how I forgot that because most Independent Ins Agents carry the same through the Association. Admittedly I have been out of the insurance loop since 2002, but I should have remembered that special protective liablity policy. You too ABC being a current agent. It’s a good tool to add to a big commercial account.

by kykat51 on Jul 17, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never seen an errors and omissions policy that

would cover this situation…….this is not an “error” nor an “omission”, this is someone not thinking things through….lol….as my first insurance mentor told me, “E & O doesn’t cover stupidity” The University does not have coverage for entering into “contracts” as far as I am aware. Maybe Lloyd’s (of London) might write something to cover this, but not likely.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, noooo

Does this mean they’ll get another $100,000 from the state to sue the insurance company??

by hoboat33 on Jul 17, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Misread that.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may be right

But I can’t read Mike DeCourcy. He is a Grade A douche.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jul 16, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No no no

That’s what Tru said about it, I think…it was by the posting.

by daniel81 on Jul 16, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here, here!

I agree.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jul 16, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

UK did.

He coached. He just didn’t get satisfactory results. UK gambled that he would, and lost.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 17, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy!

If anyone thinks that UK owes billy G a cent for his services is out of there mind. He made what he made for his 2yrs and to expect anymore is immoral. The man had his chances to secure a payday for just this type of situation. It’s like any normal person trying to file for unemployement after being fired for not doing your job, it doesn’t happen this way people. Billy is responsibile for his actions and in my opinion, he should be made to cover all attorney fees after he gets made to look like a fool in front of the judge.

by BornBlue84 on Jul 16, 2009 12:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I dont disagree with you BB

but I have yet to hear one person make a really good LEGAL argument for not paying the man….I am not a lawyer, and I dont pretend to be….but a lot of good legal minds have said we are in a no win scenario here.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with ABC

It has to be a no win situation for UK.
:-)

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by a2d2 on Jul 16, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

where ya been a2???....thought i would have

to send out a rescue party for you…..lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 16, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Currently in Husker land.....

You think I can survive this sea of RED? I am so thankful for ASoB…..I can survive any other color with my BLUE, the greatest color to bleed….
:-)

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by a2d2 on Jul 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my God.....Nebraska???

Dont they shoot people from Kentucky out there???…..lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no......

I never believed that rumor…LOL….Maybe I should leave now. I am a total KY Wildcat fan. I let them know that too…Haha

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by a2d2 on Jul 18, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um

You do get unemployment when you get fired even if you didn’t do your job. Plus not doing his job is a very subjective statement. I have a feeling it won’t be Billy G that looks like a fool if this goes to court.

by daniel81 on Jul 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems a pretty good analogy to me.

In the end, “deserving it” never is the issue. Lots of people get things they don’t deserve, but are entitled to by binding legal agreement.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both Sides Made Bad Decisions

UK should not have hired Gillispie. Gillispie should have realized that he couldn’t do the job that UK wanted done. Both screwed up — made bad decisions. In the press conference announcing Gillispie’s dismissal, Dr. Todd acknowledged that UK had an obligation to Gillispie and wanted to be reasonable. Gillispie has never acknowledged any obligation that he had to UK and has sent every message that he wants to be unreasonable. He refused to sign a permanent contract. He refused to follow directives of the athletic director and University president. He is refusing to accept service of the lawsuit that UK has filed against him. Gillispie is a coward. When this lawsuit is settled, Mitch needs to be replaced.

by Fortunatus on Jul 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Refusing to accept service?

How do you know that? Just askin’.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just dont get it

Neither side pursueing this lawsuit makes sense to me at all. I believe it’s in the interests of both parties to settle. Even if Billy wins he’s never going to see the full six million he is owed due to what has to be some pretty hefty legal fees.

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by davw83 on Jul 17, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lex H-L Had Story On That

They have tried several times but are unable to serve G with their lawsuit.

Snakes are hard to find sometimes.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 17, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not hard to find.

I could have called him for them, its just that no one told me they were looking for him! lol! ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jul 17, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol Tink.

I don’t doubt that for one minute :-)

by kykat51 on Jul 17, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, uh ...

… and as far as Barnhart being replaced, remember, it was he who hired Calipari. I don’t hear much hue and cry for that to happen.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.....the AD who resurrected (can you resurrect something you didnt have?)

the UK Football program with his hiring of Brooks….and now his (admittedly Mike Pratt led) hiring of Calipari will cement his position for years to come….IMHO…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 17, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Barnhart

has also done some pretty good things for the non revenue generating sports.

Brooks and Cal put him in pretty comfortable position.

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by davw83 on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

BornBlue

Welcome to the site. I noticed you joined recently. Hope you enjoy.

by kykat51 on Jul 16, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed.

Welcome.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the welcome..

Very well kept & I like the fact there is no cursing, only well thought out conversations.

by BornBlue84 on Jul 16, 2009 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well ...

… there’s cursing, just no “typing while cursing.”

Welcome to the site!!

by Ken Howlett on Jul 17, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan..

In the state of Kentucky you will NOT receive unemployment benefits if the company you work for releases you for negligence ( not sure if that is spelled correctly). I.E. Completion of daily tasks, arriving on time or miss use of company time or funds.. There is a difference between being fired and being laidoff! In my opinion and I speak for a great majority of BBN, when I say, billy g was neglecting to fullfill his end of the agreement. Which was like mitch said, more than wins & losses. He was in my opinion fired for negligence. Which does not constitute backpay!

by BornBlue84 on Jul 16, 2009 7:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It's the agreement ...

… that is the issue. Both sides agreed to a set of conditions, and UK breached them. In the end, that’s what is going to matter.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 16, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

This situation is so easily arguable from both sides of the fence. Has anyone had access to a copy of the agreement between uk & b.g. I would love to read it word for word.

by BornBlue84 on Jul 17, 2009 11:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You can get a copy of it

Ive seen copies online. Cant remember where though.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jul 17, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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