The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Are NCAA Secondary Violations Mostly Deliberate?

by Glenn Logan on Jul 10, 2009 11:53 AM EDT in Kentucky Wildcats News

Seth Emerson of the South Carolina's The State has an article today reprinted in the Lexington Herald-Leader which essentially asks this question: Are secondary NCAA violations really accidental, or are the deliberate acts that are worth the small penalty?

I actually think this is a good question, given the profligacy of Tennessee, Auburn and South Carolina recently in racking up NCAA secondary violations, and Georgia reported eight, which is an improvement from the 15 last year at this time. The article notes that UK has not reported any secondary violations in the last six months, but according to South Carolina's compliance director:

But if schools don’t report any secondary violations, then coaches and compliance directors "probably aren’t doing their jobs," Stiles said.

As somebody who knows a thing or two about compliance, I know that the goal of compliance is not to commit violations, as opposed to just catching and reporting them them all. Further, Stiles' comment looks like a backhanded shot at schools who do work hard to make sure that they don't have any violations to report. If Mr. Stiles' theory of compliance is what is passing for the commitment of these schools to comply with the rules, it is obvious that it's little more than a nod and wink at all but the most egregious wrongs, which are pretty darn easy to avoid if you want to. The secondary ones are trickier, but UK is proving, at least in football, that it's doable.

There have recently been suggestions that coaches are ignoring the rules that result in secondary violations deliberately, because the advantages gained by the violation are worth the price schools wind up having to pay. That is an altogether cynical viewpoint, and if that is going on, something clearly needs to be done. Rich Brooks thinks so, too.

My opinion is that the penalty should increase for multiple violations within a given time frame, just like penalties increase for multiple violations of many laws during a set time frame. The actual tolling period could be pretty arbitrary, I suppose, but something needs to be done, and the idea that the benefit gained by a violation might be worth the price is an invitation for unethical and unsportsmanlike behavior, which some say is happening as a matter of course. I hope the NCAA will take a look at this and take some kind of action to stem the tide.

Now, for the news:

UK Basketball News

Miller’s versatility impresses Purdue coach | Vaught's Views
Pike's Teague keeps No. 2 ranking in perspective
These Teague boys are pretty good at basketball. But the real news is that UK has entered the fray.
Calipari's fast start encourages fans
"Obviously, there is no way we can be the shooting team that we would be if (Meeks) was here"

Obviously.
Thursday's SEWR Pipeline of Thoughts and Links
Odd acronym for a blog. Some good stuff here, though.
Darnell Dodson Video
Just in case you've never seen him play.
July is time for college coaches to show love
Calipari will be showing a lot of love to a good number of players this month.
Coach Cal Interview from King City Classic
Via True Blue Kentucky.
Top point guard prospect looking at Cats | KentuckySports.com
Nothing new here. I really think Lamb may be the first 2010 commit.
Barnes still interested in UK | KentuckySports.com
More detail on Harrison Barnes.

UK Football News

UK's Jarmon attracts 18 NFL teams to workout | KentuckySports.com
No surprise here. Jarmon is the kind of talent NFL teams like to get in the supplemental draft.
SEC forks in the road
Vanderbilt is a big game this year for our post-season hopes.

Other UK Sports News

NCAA Sports News

The SEC's 10 most powerful people - OrlandoSentinel.com
John Calipari is the "most powerful" basketball coach. The rest are football coaches or AD's.
UK's new billboards really sing | KentuckySports.com

Other News of Interest

ZAGSBLOG -- Reebok Camp Notebook - Part 1
Good stuff as usual from Adam Zagoria.
Kentucky Hoopfest: Day One | Inside the Hall
Nice report from HoopFest,
UK Basketball: Meeks relieved deal is done with Bucks: WinchesterSun.com
I'm happy for Jodie. It is an exciting time for him.
Researcher: Prep two-a-days should be cut back 071009 - The Augusta Chronicle

The Daily Schadenfreude

A Shortage of Guards at Duke - The Quad Blog - NYTimes.com
There is little evidence that Duke’s fall from the top echelon of college basketball will end. The Blue Devils have just two scholarship guards for next season, which isn’t exactly an ideal recipe to win in the A.C.C.

Heh. Oh, schadenfreude!
Memphis, A Legacy Of Bitterness
Heh. I suppose we can't blame them, but when will it be time to move on?

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Barnes

Probably Kansas leads with Duke second. Long way from over. Barnes has indicated to AAU teammates that he prefers to stay as close to home (Ames IA) as possible.

I think UK is probably in the second tier (of choices) in this particular case.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 10, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions

Iowa State?

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on Jul 10, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions

They'll Be In His Top 5 Choices

Ames is where ISU is located so it’s home. His Mom works at ISU.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 10, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Rich has a good approach

to all of this….let’s just hope there are no football players picking up the occasional free meal on his watch….I get very leery about throwing stones in other team’s directions

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 10, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions

Vaught's Views on Darius Miller

Great read. I’ve been trying to keep up with Miller while he’s on the FIBA U19 World Championship, and this story by Larry Vaught is the best yet. I believe, next to Meeks, Miller was the one stand-out player last season that had become noticeably better by year’s end. Darius is a great kid, with a great attitude (not a show-off), incredible athleticism and loads of potential. I can’t wait to watch him this year.

by Blueboy on Jul 10, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions

It will be fun to watch

Darius this year. He takes a minute to get adjusted but once the light pops he’s going to put points on the board. Once these kids learn to like each other enough to TRUST EACH OTHER they will murderlize other teams. Darius is going to do some serious slashing and gouging :)

I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

by bluecrip on Jul 10, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

on memphis legacy

you have to understand that most memphis fans have chips on their shoulder. there are about as many UT fans here as well as Ole Miss fans as there are memphis fans. with arkansas across the river and alabama having a large fan base, the SEC gets constantly lorded over them. as a result, they get defensive.

i think the prospect of what was to come is the biggest let down.

FORTY – you might want to read the article. the author CLEARLY needs to be corrected on his comment that tubby took uk from the penthouse to the outhouse – figure you would do a better job than i…..

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jul 10, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions

No Comment On That

Some say tuh-MAY-toe, some say tuh-MAH-toe.

Adolph Rupp averaged 82% (W-L record) at UK. His successor averaged 75%. HIS successor averaged 69%.

Rick Pitino averaged 81% at UK. His successor averaged 76%. HIS successor averaged 60%.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 10, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I think I see a trend.....

Almost like a prophecy! HOLY S%#@!!!!!!!!! (that’s….holy smokes)

I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

by bluecrip on Jul 10, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

We Are Due For Rupp/Pitino % Numbers

Calipari will be better (%) than both, I think.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 10, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I am down for that

Let the UK renaissance begin this season!

I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

by bluecrip on Jul 10, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions

that is an interesting thought memphis

living here in LR I am firmly entrenched in the SEC following, albeit of a reddish tint and only an hour an a half away the fans in Memphis must get tired of all the SEC smacktalk. a buddy and i are thinking about rolling out that way the first of the month. i told him i’d leave the UK stuff at home so we could relax. after reading your comment i feel it would only be more polite to do so.

I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

by bluecrip on Jul 10, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

polite - - and safe

my buddies still will not let me put my wildcat spare tire wheel cover for my jeep back on…..

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jul 11, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Duke guards

With only two guards of any quality on the roster, it sounds like Coach K could be just one injury away from having his back troubles flare up on him again. ;-)

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 10, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions

I'd like to give him back trouble

He’s a rat faced bastard and one helluva coach! :)

I am comforted by the thought that through simple mathematics I should live long enough to see the end of his career. Course, when we beat UT or UF in football I will be in jail so the numbers may vary + or – 10%.

I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

by bluecrip on Jul 10, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Owned

http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=23071

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jul 10, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions

Yawn.

This whole feud between these two sites bores the hell out of me.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Jul 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions

which sites?

i thought there was only one blog that discussed the big blue…….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jul 10, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Matt Jones' KSR Radio (Blog)

And Marc Maggard’s “pay-per-view” recruiting website.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 10, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Appears You Missed Sarcasm

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--Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, 27 November 1787

by Wild Weasel on Jul 10, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions