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UK Athletics: Director's Cup -- Is Mitch Barnhart Getting the Job Done?

The Director's Cup results for 2009 are out, and just as we did in 2007 (I somehow overlooked it in 2008), it is now possible to compare Kentucky's performance with others.  As I did before, what I'll be doing here is comparing how rival schools have performed over the last five years compared with UK.  First, the basic chart:

School 2004 – 2005 2005 – 2006 2006 – 2007 2007-2008 2008-2009 Average
Florida 6 5 6 6 3 5.2
North Carolina 9 4 3 14 2 6.4
Duke 5 8 11 19 17 12
Tennessee 8 14 7 16 23 13.6
UK 35 33 45 36 34 36.6
UL 50 54 28 32 32 39.2

Graphically, that chart looks like this:

Director's Cup 5 Year Performance

What this shows us is UK's performance over the last 5 years, compared with some other schools.  The lower the line is on the chart, the better, and descending is improving.  One bit of good news here is that UK has been improving in the director's cup since 2007, but it is still the lowest-ranked school overall of this group.

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Next, we will look at "bang for buck" information.  What this chart and attending graph do is show you which schools get the most Director's Cup positions per dollar spent on overall athletics:

School Dollars/Pos
Florida $366,412.62
North Carolina $226,931.35
Duke $267,009.19
Tennessee $352,503.02
UK $286,055.11
UL $212,587.73

Now putting that chart in graphical form, we get the following:

Dollars per Director's Cup Position

As before, lower values represent the most "Bang for the buck."  So who, in this group, is getting the most out of their athletic expenditures when it comes to the Director's Cup?  Louisville is, by just a small amount over North Carolina.  Florida is actually getting the least value/dollar spent, but I think that they would not complain too much about that, since their income exceeds their outflow by a significant amount in athletics and they are among the tops in the nation in the Director's Cup standings.  UK is next to last in this "Bang for the buck" analysis.

So is Mitch Barnhart getting the job done?  Well, any way you measure it, Tom Jurich is getting the job done better and cheaper at this point, but that may well change with the upward trajectory of Kentucky's football program, the downward trajectory of Louisville's, and the hiring of John Calipari.  UK's performance has been weighed down by basketball in the last four years rather than helped, and it shows.  Prior to that, it was football doing its best "boat anchor" imitation.  Will next year finally see UK return back to a more respectable showing in the Director's Cup?  I sure hope so.

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I'm Not A Fan Of MB

But he and Dr. Todd got it right this spring.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 30, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice To See Minnesota At #12

Joel Maturi is an excellent AD there.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 30, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im apathetic about Mitch

I dislike Todd intensley.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jun 30, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a fan of Barnhart either

Failure of Billy G rests squarely on his shoulders.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jun 30, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what?

so G is blameless in his own failure? the hiring of Billy does rest on Mitch’s shoulders, but G has to share a large part of the blame for what happened based on his own behavior and failure to address issues/change his attitude.

i've been waiting for this moment all my life...but it's not quite right.

by small balls on Jun 30, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

G should not have been here in the first place

Ergo, everything that happened later falls on teh man who hired him.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

When Kentucky hired BCG it was UK that should have “known better”. UK has the experience, history and expertise (or at least should) to make the correct hire.

If a fortune 100 company hires the wrong CEO, it is not the person’s fault that basic functions of the job were not going to be addressed by the hire. UK (Mitch) had the responsibility to know what the job entailed and it was his job, not BCG’s, to be sure the person hired could fulfill all of the job duties. UK knows the job duties better than anyone who may be hired and should fill the position accordingly. It looks like they got it right this time (thanks to folks besides mitch).

by hoboat33 on Jun 30, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So when all the dust is settled, will Barnhart come out

as the winner or the loser in the BCG debacle?

Evidence points to at least his culpability in the matter, but does his recovery this year combined with the amazing success of the Football program get him a pass? I think that in this case Mitch has seen the light when it comes to the BBall program, and has shined the light on FBall. He obviously has a knack for improving things, given time. Is the improvement enough?…I think so. We have half the budget of some bigtime SEC schools, thanks to the huge dollars their football programs bring in, and we now have quality people in almost every position in the athletics program.

He keeps UK in a bowl game every year, gets us playing after Jan 1 regularly, and we would have the budget to compete in every way with any school. We have top notch facilities, (with the exception of an indoor practice facility for football, which I think is a necessity) and we have the staff. Getting this Director’s Cup lined out would really make a nice coup for Mitch. As soon as the BCG stuff goes away, that will be forgotten by most.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 30, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not much progress over the years - looks like mid 30"s is where uk has been

in fortyish style:

season – rank – AD
93-94 – 37 newton
94-95 – 46 newton
95-96 – 32 newton
96-97 – 26 newton
97-98 – 28 newton
98-99 – 49 newton
99-00 – 70 ivy
00 -01 – 37 ivy
01-02 – 36 ivy
02-03 – 50 mitch
03-04 – 45 mitch

maybe with cal in bball and the football team looking to build on 3 bowl games, we have a shot to see the number move into the low 20’s.

not really sure mitch has taken the athletic department to the next level – up or down…..

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jun 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To paraphrase Jay-Z

We got 99 problems, but Mitch ain’t one.

I didn’t think the grief he took for the handling of Gillispie was appropriate or warranted. It was the best of an ugly situation that G created. He manned up publicly for screwing up the the G hire, which is admirable, and doesn’t happen often in his field.

He deserves far more credit than he gets for standing in the fire for Brooks also.

by Ontherocks on Jun 30, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don' think Billy G was a bad hire

I think Mitch’s lack of communication skills are the real culprit. Apparently he didn’t communicate well enough to Billy G what his role would be, didn’t talk to the right people to go after John Calipari the first time and didn’t bother telling the fans about Calipari’s little Memphis fiasco before we had to read about it in the Commercial Appeal.
I thought Guy Morris deserved a real shot and I was one of the ones calling for Brooks’ scalp too. Winning makes things go away, but I’m still not exactly a big Brooks fan.
Plus our baseball and women’s basketball teams are back to sucking. I guess all that matters is wins so if UK basketball lives up to the hype next year, we’ll be singing ole Mitch’s praises again. If Cal gets us in trouble or UK flops, maybe even next year, Mitch is gone.

by daniel81 on Jun 30, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not A Bad Hire

He was a TERRIBLE hire.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 30, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Demographics Are Destiny

A look at relevant demographics will show that it is highly unlikely that UK will ever rise to a truly competitive position for the Director’s Cup. Purely population alone (4 1/4 million and 26th most populous) is enough to limit competitiveness. Other population distinctions (See for yourself) add to the difficulty. Another more circumstantial factor is the relative dearth of exceptional athletes produced by KY high schools.

Additionally, I find it interesting the programs that were chosen with which to compare UK. If, as I understand it, the Director’s Cup is for overall excellence why were only basketball schools selected for equation? If one is to measure the effectiveness of the athletic department then it would seem, shall we say, sporting to identify programs of similar resources.

"The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen to be the most useful as well as the most productive source of national wealth, and has accordingly become a primary object of its political cares."

--Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, 27 November 1787

by Wild Weasel on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I selected ...

… what I consider to be “rivals,” as I noted above.

I would also note that Louisville is in Kentucky, and is a smaller school, and leads us in the Director’s Cup. I would also note that Louisiana has virtually the same population as Kentucky, and yet LSU is 9th in the standings. Similarly, Oregon and Arkansas, both less populous states, lead Kentucky by significant margins in the Director’s cup.

So what was your argument again?

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 2, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just To Answer The Question

Since the Directors Cup scoring is based on 10 men’s (NOTE: Rifle, a program in which UK is strong isn’t included) and 10 women’s sports with equal scoring for each it would seem to provide a more accurate measurement of the UK/Barnhart administration if different “rivals” had been chosen, i.e. any program (in addition to UF and UT) in SEC East, or perhaps Indiana and Kansas.

As for Arkansas and Louisiana one need only look at the alluded to population distinctions: Arkansas has 21% more African-Americans while Louisiana has 400% more. Oregon is somewhat harder to analyze but you are correct that demographics seem to play a lesser role. If I had to pick a single factor in Ducks’ standing it would be that they — unlike UK with the decade demise of elite men’s basketball — pick some programs in which to excel and earn maximum points, i.e. men’s and women’s cross country. It is interesting to note that the leading programs all have one or a few programs in which they vie for conference or national championships while UK has had none for last several years.

"The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen to be the most useful as well as the most productive source of national wealth, and has accordingly become a primary object of its political cares."

--Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, 27 November 1787

by Wild Weasel on Jul 3, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing to worry about!

On December 9th, 2008 Barnhart said in the next seven years Kentucky will win 15 SEC or National Championships. Lets see, this year, none. That’s means there is going to be a flurry of Trophies coming in quickly. My question is – is he counting the championships that the cheerleaders win almost annually? If we win the SEC in basketball and all the Big Dances between now and then, that would be 14. We all know that is more than likely happen so I guess the guy knows what he talking about. I love Mitch’s candor and certainly he wouldn’t make such an announcement if he could back it up. Right?

by TheParisGuy on Jul 3, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our winning football program

I see everyone one is talking about the winning Brooks is doing at Kentucky. Until 2006, the year they put in the twelveth game, thus another ‘buy’ win, we weren’t doing so well. But that extra game has made us a winner. In the 6 years Brooks has been here, the Cats are 5-25 in the Eastern Division. 4 of those wins are against Vandy. The other was a great upset against Georgia. With out the wins against Vandy we are 1-23. Mmm, interesting. We play Mississippi State every year from the west division. 4-2 against them. Nice. The win against LSU was great. Brooks is 13 and 35 in the conference. 8 of those wins against Mississippi State and Vandy. Two against Arkansas, LSU, Georgia and I can’t remember the other one. In 6 years,. Now its time to step it up. Tennessee and Auburn have new coaches. Coming off losing seasons. Mississippi State has an offensive coordinator, like our coach in waiting, but the guy is from University of Florida. Not a bad offense to be the coordinator of. When was the last time Vandy beat anybody two years in a row? South Carolina is away. But doable. Miami of OHIO, last year 2-10 and picked to finish last in the Mac. Louisiana-Monroe, 4-8, hasn’t has a winning record is this century. (eight years). Louisville is suppose to be terrible so who are we to argue? Ah and Eastern. Good ole Eastern. Thanks fellas.
Georgia, Florida and Alabama would he BIG upsets. But eight or nine games a winable.
What happens if we go 6-6? Nothing. Rich Brooks has the most secure coaching job in the SEC. Why not expect better? Maybe beating Miss State and Vandy two out of three is just enough to get us to basketball season. Why else would anyone be satisfied with a 5 and 25 record against your divisional foes be acceptable?
The reason for our success and why we don’t do better is – ready for this? – we play in the toughest conference in america. Yep, we’re in the toughest conference in the nation but should we actually want to ‘compete’ in it also?
I know, I’m all wrong but when you look at it and break it down as shown above, are we ever going to say ‘we could and should do better’ or are we just the preamble to basketball as in the past?
Thanks for reading and if you wish to bash, go ahead.

by TheParisGuy on Jul 4, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You arent wrong

just tougher on the program than most others.

Brooks and Co. have done a great job getting us where we are but if we want to continue to improve we have to start beating the SC’s, UT’s, Auburns, etc. I dont expect regular wins over UF UG LSU etc but we have to start beating the mid level SEC teams regularly. Brooks would be the first one to tell you this. The schedule is so rough this season I am prepared to give the team a bye this year if only because I see very good things happening in 2010.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jul 4, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

We need SEC wins. Right now, we are making progress, but if not for a profusion of bowls and easy wins, we would look far more mediocre than we do now.

UK would qualify as a paper tiger in football at the moment. But the bowl games and winning seasons are helping us recruit better, which is the only real way to get out of the lower tier of the SEC.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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