The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Where Will Jodie Meeks Go?
by Glenn Logan on Jun 22, 2009 2:48 PM EDT
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PrintMost Kentucky fans are busy wondering where Jodie Meeks will go in the draft on Thursday, and there are quite a few people who are weighing in on the subject. Of course, nobody knows for sure right now, but some people claim to have heard things, so we will pass all this information on with the caveat that it as all unverified and should be considered speculation.
In the Blue corner, we have the "He has a guarantee" crowd. The first article I saw on this was by Matt Jones at KSR in which the Chicago Bulls and the Minnesota Timberwolves figure prominently. As a companion to this, but a different story from apparently different sources over at the Hoops Report. They say that Jodie has a guarantee early in the second round. Hoopinion has Meeks going at #23 on his draft board (not mock draft), which seems a bit high to me. My best guess is the last three picks of the first round or the first five picks of the second. I don't know about guarantees, but it is definitely possible that Meeks could wander up into the first round.
In the Red corner, we have the doubters. Chad Ford of ESPN is the doubtingest doubter of all, and according to the Courier-Journal's Brett Dawson, Ford has Meeks out of the draft altogether, raising the spectre of a Randolph Morris loophole. John Clay very much doubts that Meeks has been guaranteed anything, citing the fluidity of the draft, but he doesn't try to figure out where he will end up. Canis Hoopis has Meeks showing up around #45. The Examiner mostly agrees with Canis Hoopis, showing Meeks 11 picks into the second round.
Which one will be right? I have no idea. There is an argument to be made that Meeks made his decision based on an understanding he would not be left out in the cold. There is also an argument to be made that something other than just the coaching change is driving Meeks to challenge the draft with nothing more than his own self-confidence. Neither one of them finds much support in the media and I have no inside sources, so I can't tell you which is more likely to be accurate. We will know in a few days time.
In other news, John Calipari had his father-son camp this past weekend, for which Memphis Wildcat has given an update in the post below (for which we are grateful) and for which several links were posted yesterday. But I thought this was an interesting picture which Memphis Wildcat took at an event. It shows a rather impressive line for people trying to get John Calipari's autograph.
Speaking of Calipari, he is in Northern Kentucky today giving a talk. This guy is non-stop action, I have no idea where he gets the energy for all this after the camp this past weekend. While all that is going on, Calipari is busy recruiting Doron Lamb of Oak Hill, who is apparently a very strong UK prospect for next year, according to Adam Zagoria's blog.
And now, for the rest of the news:
UK Basketball News
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The C-J's high school basketball Super 5
Imagine that two of the five will be suiting up in Blue and White next year. -
Whose star will shine brightest in 2009-10?
Don't be surprised if Kentucky guard John Wall becomes the third freshman in four years to take home national player of the year honors. Kevin Durant did it in 2007 and Michael Beasley – at least according to some media outlets – accomplished the feat in 2008. -
Rejected: Get That Lance Outta Here!
I don't know of anyone who has seriously suggested Calipari is recruiting Stephenson. I agree with BSB, I don't think we need the aggravation this guy is likely to bring. - Wildcat Sports Blog: Calipari's Cat's: "They're Heeeerre!"
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The Curious Case of Matt Pilgrim.
Curious indeed. -
Will Joe Jackson follow Calipari?
I sense some doubts there.
UK Football news
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Preview of the Auburn-UK football game.
This is a really good preview of the game with Auburn, particularly from the UK side.
Other UK Sports News
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Sorrillo Clinches Gold Medal at Trinidad and Tobago Championships
Rondel Sorrillo won the gold medal in the 200 meter dash during the Trinidad and Tobago National Open Track and Field Championships at Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain. Congrats.
NCAA Sports News
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Bruce Pearl makes first seven picks in the NBA draft
Bruce Pearl will bring his sweaty self to your TV on NBA draft day.
Other News of Interest
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"Shoot Hoops Not Drugs" camps in full swing
Jeff Sheppard doing more good work. -
Kentucky Sports Radio " Blog Archive " The NBA Top 100 Camp Championship and Awards
Dustin Rumbaugh of KSR reviews the NBA Top 100 championship game. -
Mocking mock drafts, and the fools that use them.
Tell us what you really think, Ray.
The Daily Schadenfreude
- Nothing today.
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That's a draft board not a mock draft.
I don’t think Meeks will be drafted 23rd just that he’s the (roughly) 23rd best prospect among NCAA prospects plus Rubio and Jennings.
I ardently disagree with both scenarios.
I highly doubt that Jodie will go # 23, and I doubt even more that NBA teams have him down as the 2rd best prospect.
by mrmondaynite on Jun 22, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not even in the Top 5 SGs
in my opinion.
by mrmondaynite on Jun 22, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonny Flynn is ranked #27 here
and he’ll be a lottery pick.
by mrmondaynite on Jun 22, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Hoopinion
In the post where you break down the shooting guards you write this:
“I suspect Meeks is getting knocked down both for the ridiculous nature of his scoring explosions last season, and the general dysfunction of the Kentucky basketball program. Remember that Rajon Rondo was widely and inaccurately downgraded simply due to his presence amidst (sic) the poisonous atmosphere of the later days of Tubby Smith’s tenure, rather than any real limitations he displayed that would carry over to the pro games.”
You also refer to Eric Bledsoe as “miserable Eric Bledsoe.”
All of these statements are, in my hoop opinion, hog wash, and I wish you would expound upon them.
Rajon Rondo wasn’t drafted higher because he couldn’t shoot beyond 10 feet with any consistency. As far as Meeks is concerned, how in heaven’s name the alleged “dysfunction” within the UK program has anything what-so-ever to do with his draft status will have to be slowly explained to me. The NBA wants players, they don’t give a damn about the state of any given program. The NBA teams want players so bad that they’ll draft guys with demonstrable criminal leanings. Quote me one NBA GM who expresses misgivings about a kid coming out of college, because his college team changed coaches.
As far as Bledsoe — If you call a high school kid “miserable” I think that deserves some clarification. Why? If you are referring to his “game,” I have to then question your ability to evaluate talent, which is apparently what you attempt to do. I haven’t seen Bledsoe play extensively, but I have seen some video, and one game on TV, plus I’ve talked to two rival Birmingham, Alabama high school basketball coaches who rave about the kid.
I don’t mean to be an a—hole, but I think I bring up some valid questions.
Prediction
Jodie goes no later than 40. There is absolutely no way he goes undrafted. His profile coming out of college is miles higher than Morris’s was. Jodie’s too good of a shooter to go undrafted. I doubt he has a “guarentee” but he may have “strong assurances”.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
oh
and YIPPPPEEEEE ITS DRAFT WEEK.
The most exciting week of the off season.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Cal has indirectly referred to Lance in a twitter post that he isnt being recruited.
Cal recruits givers no takers.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
An Opinion And A Note
Calipari has an agreement with Meeks to hold a scholarship should he not be drafted.
President Lee Todd is tweeting for Calipari.
"The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen to be the most useful as well as the most productive source of national wealth, and has accordingly become a primary object of its political cares."
--Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, 27 November 1787
Lee Todd's tweeting is so mind numbingly boring i want to throw my phone at a wall
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
did you know
that UK’s physical plant division workers scrape 15,000 parking spaces in the winter and clear appx 57 miles of walkway around campus.
I didnt know that but Lee Todd sure does.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
I wrote an awfully boring paper at UK about the sustainability
of UK’s physical plant division.
by mrmondaynite on Jun 22, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
matt pilgrim
to add to the link above and to my post of yesterday….
a group of us were talking with a coach and asked about matt – the response was that the situation was “between him and coach.” matt asked one of the coaches if he could work camp and the coach said sure.
it may have been pure coincidence, but during the scrimmage, all the players had UK issue blue shorts, except pilgrim who had on black shorts. maybe he is trying. there was also a reference to how matt looked like an all-american in pick-up games, but that was different than practice. given matt did not get to play in a game last year, not sure how one would know how his practice translates to PT..
also, not sure if WW was kidding above about holding a scholarship for meeks, but the thought did enter my mind and, again, some informal talk with some of those at camp lead me to believe that if meeks fell through the draft, the fax would be found a lot quicker than morris’s was found……stay tuned????
josh was guarding cousins due to orton and pp being out – however, on one drive where cousins had a clear dunk, pilgrim tried to block it.
as much of a beast as pilgrim is, i cannot emphasis how big cousins is – he is huge and agile and made even pilgrim look smaller than he is. however, my gut is cal would like to see cousins a little bit lighter before he season starts….
i know the DDMO is not set up for 3 big men, but I would love to see Orton, PP and Cousins across the back line with Wall and Bledsoe/Miller in the back court – we could POUND with any big east team out there…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Jun 22, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
oh - and on the picture above....
i took that AFTER my son and i had been in line for 20 minutes and gotten Cal’s autograph. Cal was at a table with his back at the far wall – just under the soccer goal of tape on the wall.
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Jun 22, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I get the feeling Memphis that there
is more to this story that we dont know yet??? Maybe Cal has got something in mind for the young man.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
Did you ever see the picture of Paul in the cross walk?
He wasn’t wearing shoes….I think that means he is dead.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
actually....
when band on the run was an early solo “effort”, you had to think he was dead – as least musically speaking….
seriously though, when i was taking a picture of my son and Cal, i accidentally hit the video recorder on my cell phone and recorded Cal saying something to my son. when i played it backwards, it sounded like Cal was saying “Matt is a beast”……
oh, the dog days of summer…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Jun 22, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
REFERENCE TO ABBEY ROAD PIC AND OLD BEATLE RUMOR IS ENIGMATIC ...
Maybe if I read your comment backwards over and over again, you will have make a valid point??
by blue oregon on Jun 22, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
when played backwards it says
“Louisville Sucks, Oh my oh my, Louisville Sucks”…..lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
Open your mind...
…all the players had UK issue blue shorts, except pilgrim who had on black shorts.
Humor is usually more funny if you put forth some effort to understand.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
i got it...
and even though it was at my expense, i thought it was good. that’s why i jumped in with playing the video backwards….maybe i should change my name to the egg man…..cu cu a jue (sp?)
if one cannot laugh at himself, then, i don’t know, i guess he/she needs to lighten up…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Jun 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
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