The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Calipari, Floyd and Victimhood
I know most of you are wanting to talk about the still-unconfirmed reports (by UK, anyway) that Matthew Pilgrim and Kevin Galloway will not be back next year. I will comment on this at the appropriate time, but at this moment, I have little to say until the story has a chance to be fully confirmed and ripe for comment. So look for that later.
Today, I want to talk about the bizarre fact that people are coming out of the woodwork to defend Tim Floyd as a victim of "the system," and virtually none of this talk was going on when Memphis was questioned about the possibility of academic fraud during Calipari's time as head coach there.
First of all, the argument that either Floyd or Calipari might be "victims of the system" (the "system," of course, being the "one-and-done" rule) is not only absurd, it is irresponsible in the extreme. To the extent either of these men engaged in any wrongdoing, "the system" had nothing to do with that decision other than being part of the circumstances creating it. Nobody, and I mean nobody, held a gun to Tim Floyd's head and told him to give cash to a runner for an agent, as has been alleged. "But Floyd was under tremendous pressure," apologists for this argument will aver. "He had to win or lose his job."
Well, duh! Every coach in America (well, with the possible exception of Mike Krzyzewski) has that metaphorical Sword of Damocles hanging over their head. That's part of the job, and it happens all the time -- just ask former UK coach Billy Gillispie about that. That's why coaches demand, and receive, large contracts with all sorts of provisions for termination. When you lose enough games, you lose your job. Then you go get another job. That's how it works in America, and it does not justify violating the rules to make sure you don't have that happen to you. Tim Floyd is no exception to that, and I'm sure if you asked him, he would reject that excuse out of hand
So why are so many blaming the NBA for the alleged rule-breaking of a college coach? There is only one reason -- they hate the "one-and-done" rule so badly that they are willing to sacrifice their reputation for reasonableness (assuming they have one, which I often doubt) on the altar of the more noble task of creating a public outcry against the current NBA rule. Either that, or they have decided this whole "personal responsibility" thing is an evil plot by the people in black helicopters. I don't like the rule, either, and have said so many times, but I am not going to defend Floyd or Calipari or anyone else by saying "The NBA made them do it!"
If Tim Floyd did wrong (Doug Gottlieb argues that a presumption of innocence is in order, and I agree), then he should pay the piper, and I'm sure he will. The same holds true for John Calipari. But my question is this -- why the double standard? If Tim Floyd can be a "victim of the system" in a scenario where he allegedly handed money to a runner (and only $1000, to boot) for a one-and-doner, why can't John Calipari be a "victim of the system" for a situation that happened to a one-and-doner 400 miles away from Memphis?
I'll tell you why -- because Calipari is so successful, he just isn't sympathetic at all. Floyd came into a downtrodden USC basketball program and breathed some life into it. Calipari doesn't know what the word "downtrodden" means, even though he did the same thing at Memphis, and at UMass. But nobody wants to remember that, and when you go from downtrodden to the top of the world, nobody remembers when you were fired from your NBA job and looking for work, especially when you just inked a $31+ million-dollar deal with the winningest program in college basketball.
I suppose it's the nature of the beast. But I thought it was worth an observation. Now, for the news:
UK Basketball News
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Martin Newton Newest Addition to Calipari Staff
Wow. I can imagine there are more than a few groans in the Big Blue Nation on this news. Not sure I get this hire, but I did like his daddy. -
Galloway and Pilgrim Will Not Return Next Season - LEX18 - Lexington, KY
I am surprised and disappointed to see a senior be among those to leave. Apparently, the "seniors are off limits" rule was more rumor than fact. I'd be interested to hear the details of this, but I suspect I never will. We'll see.
UK Football News
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ESPN Takes a Potshot at Kentucky, Ball State
Alan at OverThePylon defends Kentucky against an ESPN criticism of too weak an out of conference schedule. We have to listen to this every year. - Tim Couch and Craig Yeast on Ryan Mossakowski
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The Mixed Bag of the Supplemental Draft
Arrowhead Pride, the SBNation Kansas City Chiefs blog, seems to be pretty excited at the prospect of Jeremy Jarmon entering the supplemental NFL draft. -
2010 football prospect Tim Patterson
It sure would be nice if we could pick up another Louisville Central player. Hopefully that pipeline is becoming solid, and this kid looks like one we'd love to have.
Other UK Sports News
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UK's Wade, Rusin drafted on second day of MLB draft
Two more UK baseball players get drafted. -
Two UK discus throwers are among the NCAA favorites
Rashaud Scott and Chase Madison are trying to get it done in track and field.
NCAA Sports News
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Can the SEC Rise to the Top, Again?
Track 'em Tigers says most of the East is trending down, and most of the West trending up. We'll see. -
Juan Pattillo Going To Be A Hilltopper
Dismissed Oklahoma forward Juan Pattillo is headed to Western Kentucky to play for the Hilltoppers. Good news for Western fans -- Patillo is a very good player. -
Ralph Willard leaves Holy Cross to assist Pitino.
Willard is a fine coach, and this is good news for Traitor Rick. -
More detail about the Tim Floyd situation
Seth Davis has a pretty interesting article on the decline and fall of Tim Floyd at USC. I think everybody in the country knew O.J. Mayo was trouble. Turns out they were all right. -
Ray Ratto's jaded comments.
Talk about apathy. Ratto is positively supine. -
Oh my goodness. Red flag? Nah.
"O.J. doesn't give out his cell,'' Guillory said. "He'll call you.''
Other News of Interest
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Amy Mickelson has breast cancer
Our prayers go out to Phil and Amy Mickelson. I hope everything turns out okay. -
LPGA players concerned over loss of McDonald's sponsorship
McDonald's is no longer the sponsor for one of the LPGA's major events, the LPGA Championship. Tough times.
The Daily Schadenfreude
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What’s Going On With Pitino?
Rush The Court is a bit ... perplexed at the Ralph Willard to Louisville situation, and puts on his tinfoil hat. I love this type of speculation about the Cardinals -- it makes Louisville fans wring their hands in angst. Ah, schadenfreude ... -
Is Olympic Gold Leading to Duke Bronze?
Heh. Krzyzewski for Team USA! He's got my vote. Go K! Go USA!
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Football schedule
When and if UK is a nationally ranked power, consistently beating teams with ease, I’ll listen to complaints about the OOC schedule. Until then, STFU.
Focusing on three or four games out of context is just plain stupid.
The King is dead! Long live the King!
by NYCCats on Jun 11, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ...
… I kind of feel the same way about that. I think a lot of SEC teams have a much weaker schedule, compared to their overall team quality, than Kentucky does.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jun 11, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one in the country, with the exception
of Vandy, has the right to say anything about our schedule. Vandy faces the same dilemma we do every year. We play in the toughest division of the toughest conference in College Football. Make no mistake about it, you ask ANY top 25 program in the country who has it the toughest EVERY year. No one has to fight for their survival like the teams in the SEC EAST. It has only become since UK ( and God help me I have to give Barnhart credit for this) made a commitment to put quality people in place ( both coaching and on the field, and YES, I was wrong about Rich Brooks, forgive me Coach), to make this happen. I do not know our RPI for football (help Forty), but I will bet our SOS is as good as anyone else out there on a year to year basis. I just wish we could start beating Florida and Tennessee every couple years.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 11, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RPI For Football?
Not sure there is RPI for anything but basketball.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 11, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Various services
offer Strength of Schedule ranking. Google it.
by hoboat33 on Jun 12, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I said before in an earlier post, I was vehemently against
all of the John Calipari bashing with no proof, so I dont think we should get into this Floyd situation until proof has been presented. As to the defense of Coach Floyd, I would have simply appreciated the same courtesy being extended to Coach Cal.
Folks, we have got to stop making “alleged” mistakes news. Tell me there is some journalistic integrity out there somewhere. Are we that starved for information that we have to hang stories on innuendo and rumors? Speculation is one thing, and can sometimes be appreciated. Not gossip.
I’d rather spend the day sorting through 50 posts of Forty’s statistics. Less to have to worry about looking up to see if it is true.
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by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 11, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's not quite right.
News is news, and allegations are news, especially supportable ones. Several eye witnesses have claimed to see Tim Floyd handing money to a runner. What that money was for, we don’t know, but that isn’t the same thing as alleging Calipari did something with virtually no proof at all.
This is not gossip whatsoever, and I don’t appreciate the suggestion that it is.
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by Truzenzuzex on Jun 11, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The money answers the question
“What’s the price of an abortion?”
/may be confusing the various “scandals” floating around here
/hoping not to get banned for spreading ridiculous rumors
;-)
The King is dead! Long live the King!
by NYCCats on Jun 11, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please dont misunderstand my comment Tru
it was not directed at your comment, it was simply a comment on the situation in general…I was following YOUR lead on that.As many of your commentaries in the past have said. I just dont want us being accused of doing the same things we have been unhappy with in the last couple weeks.
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by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 11, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah.
I misunderstood you, then. Sorry for that.
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by Truzenzuzex on Jun 11, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know tru
Wilbon blasted floyd yesterday on pti. I don’t think everyone is defending him, but of course uk will always draw more attention. Plus you have to consider that rose played on a final four team.
by daniel81 on Jun 11, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilbon
picks and chooses who he berates on a daily basis….just depends on his mood….but youre right Daniel we draw the ire of the world. And the FF thing with Rose may have helped add to it
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by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 11, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilbon = Idiot
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
by btcoop71 on Jun 11, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilbon = Maybe an Idiot, but One of the Best at What he Does
I can’t stand the guy, but he is talented.
You may already have, but if not, read some of his stuff. He’s an excellent and insightful writer. Especially about sports like hockey.
by mrmondaynite on Jun 11, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is someone keeping scores of all the 'idiots', biased journalists, enemies of UK, etc.?
Sheesh…it’s a long list. Does anyone like any columnist or opinion writer????
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
time to get some new stuff dude...
LMAO
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Jun 11, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how Wilbon feels about UK
He is just an idiot, period. I disagree with almost everything he says or writes.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
by btcoop71 on Jun 11, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's an idiot
Because he writes about hockey:)
by daniel81 on Jun 11, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I didn't say everyone ...
… But I do take your point. Still, Cal had virtually no defenders out there, while I have seen plenty for Floyd. There are all sorts of plausible reasons, of course, I just thought it was worth noting.
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by Truzenzuzex on Jun 12, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
Floyd resigned his post. That alone is enough to raise a red flag.
by Ken Howlett on Jun 11, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've got another nerd fight
http://www.truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/1477-marc-maggard.html
Those two should just hug it out and hold hands.
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
by btcoop71 on Jun 11, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Seth Davis piece reminds us
that Elite level recruiting is very much an ethical quagmire, and it is ALL very unsavory when the public gets a look at exactly how it all goes down. I don’t pretend for one second that “my guy” does it any cleaner than the next guy. To assume that is foolhardy and naive.
It sucks to be so jaded about it, but when the monetary stakes are so high, it should be no surprise that such quaint notions like amateurism and school pride are NOT the overriding factors that determine where a kid plays ball.
You can operate above the fray as a coaching staff, but to do so almost guarantees that you will not compete at the most elite level. I’m perfectly okay with the fact that we’ve decided to try to compete at that level, but I’m certainly aware of the perils from doing so.
by Ontherocks on Jun 11, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I am surprised and disappointed to see a senior be among those to leave."
What? Suprised and disappointed?? I am not. Nobody should be surprised and everyone should be disappointed. Too bad. Too sad. Five, four, three, two, one…..let the rational begin.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here we go again Hoze....five, four, three, two, one....let the Cardinal hypercritical whinning begin.
Make sure your available to post when the Cats and the Cards teams actually take the basketball floor this winter and perhaps even in the playoffs.
by blue oregon on Jun 11, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we make the playoffs (whatever that means in regards to 'playoffs').
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not ...
… surprised that you’re not surprised. You may be the only person in the nation more jaded than Ray Ratto. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Jun 12, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I don't know whether you think more of yourself as a writer or a psychoanalysis.
It’s really easy to recognize or even compliment me for being right (again). Instead of sitting at the keyboard with your hands over your ears and typing comments such as ‘…I believe things will work out…’ or ‘…I’ll wait and make comments after it may or may not happen…’, take a little initiative to do some predictive analysis.
Lazy writers comment on what has happened. Good writers and good opinion writers look into the facts, draw reasonable conclusions, and offer opinion. Give it a shot. I know you can do it.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 14, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Tru has the right (not write) approach
Throw out ideas and feelings and get a dialogue going, not act like the great Poo Bah and state everything as unarguable facts.
by hoboat33 on Jun 14, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway
Im not surprised or disappointed. If he were either Harris or Stevenson I would be but Galloway’s been in the program for one season and average 10 min and just over a point per game. Let’s not all act like he has been around for 3 years.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Jun 11, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not think that
this is the beginning of a pattern…..I think the man made an honest assessment of the program and its players and said “here is where you are, and this is what I am going to do with you”…..as he said he was going to do. I never personally heard the “seniors are off-limits” thing from anyone other than on here, and as much as I can appreciate the sentiment, We do not have the luxury of waiting another couple of years to get back into the “elite” status of programs. Recruits are looking at us NOW. We needed to get this “swagger” back. Now, all that is being said as a fan, and it is not a commentary on the acedemic side of all of this. We had 2nd tier players, we now have top tier players. We must produce as a top-tier program, both on and off the court
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 11, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Be careful
Impatience leads to…
…cutting corners which leads to…
…playing in the gray area which leads to…
…serious compliance issues.
I think BECAUSE it is University of Kentucky, you can take a safe, compliant, measured progress. But I guess I am wrong.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can handle "gray areas" all day long.
This so called “gray area” is legal and within the rules. When coach steps over the rules, then I will be upset.
by wklawdog on Jun 11, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how much does U of L pay you to be here ??
by Bluehound on Jun 11, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work pro-bono. Consider it a charitable effort.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Least Likely
Charitable is the least likely word I can think of with which to pair with HozeKing. Irksome, bothersome, annoying, pestiferous, plaguey, stressful, uncongenial — but definitely not charitable.
"[T]he opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves, in their, own sphere of action, but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Abigail Adams, 11 September 1804
by Wild Weasel on Jun 11, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a joke. I really get paid.
Wow. Some people just don’t get it.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You amuse me
You really do (no sarcasm). Prior to reading the comments, I think: “What will HK say about this?” “What will 40?” Usually, I can pretty much guess it verbatim.
Seriously, thanks for being the Washington Generals to our Harlem Globetrotters of argument.
The King is dead! Long live the King!
by NYCCats on Jun 12, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow....you are soooooo insightful.
Try pointing your laser light vision on basketball and offer a little original analysis.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 14, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leap of Logic
To suggest that two players purportedly leaving the program might lead to NCAA compliance issues. WOW! UL Law? :-) We really know nothing of the situation right now. If the players are leaving, maybe, they wanted to leave. Maybe there are other factors such as grades or of-the-court behavior. Whatever the case may be, it is a long way from any "grey areas" or NCAA probation. No matter how many times you try to sell me nothing, I am still not buying.
That being said, I liked Galloway and was looking forward to having a chance to see Pilgram play. Of course even if Pilgram stays, it is going to be hard to find a spot in this rotation given that the offense really does not lean heavily on the post play to begin with.
by LyricSmith on Jun 12, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One and Done Rule...
My argument through all of this is that the lack of a one and done rule would greatly decrease the temptation to commit recruiting violations, but nobody should be using it as an excuse. A violation is a violation regardless of what the rule is. But David Stern would be doing everyone a favor by getting rid of the rule… it seems pointless to me that colleges are spending all this money to get scholarships for kids that probably do the bare minimum in their one year in college and definitely won’t do anything with it.
by brandondc on Jun 11, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
David Stern would not be doing the NBA a favor by getting rid of the rule, and that is who he is concerned about.
Heck, he would not even be doing colleges a favor by getting rid of the rule. The only people that he would be truly doing a favor for is the kids that want to go straight to the league.
by wklawdog on Jun 11, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pilgrim
I hate to see Pilgrim go. I’ve heard a lot of good things about this guy and I was really looking forward to seeing him play next year. Oh well, we all knew someone had to go. I’m really glad Josh Harrelson is getting to stay though. I’ve heard that he “loves” being at UK. That’s great. We love you too Josh. GO BIG BLUE!
by Blueboy on Jun 11, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Is there no end to Tru’s amazing references… Sword of Damocles? Nice.
by Clandestine on Jun 11, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough Choice
For the creme de la creme of college basketball — and they are a precious few — perhaps they don’t have to choose, but for nearly all the others — especially those trying to build or, as in UK’s case, rebuild — the decision on taking the “one and done” was always difficult but now with OJ Mayo, Renardo Sidney, Derrick Rose, et al, the choice just got tougher.
Which brings to mind the Lovin’ Spoonful and:
Did you ever have to make up your mind
Pick up on one and leave the other behind
It’s not often easy and not often kind
Did you ever have to make up your mind
"[T]he opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves, in their, own sphere of action, but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Abigail Adams, 11 September 1804
by Wild Weasel on Jun 11, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprised
to hear that Pilgrim is leaving. Hope that proves to be false. Would much rather see Liggins leave. Don’t “want” to see any of them “go” Hozerelli, but I don’t have anything to say about that. That’s why I’d rather see someone “leave”. Don’t know much about Pilgrim other then what we hear, but Liggins has shown us a very selfish side. In anything, self is always one of our biggest enemies. The young man can prove otherwise, and if he stays I hope he does. Locker room cancers are potential team killers. Don’t know much about the lovin spoonfool, but Kevin Cronin would be singing “riding the storm out” right about now! Yea, I’m an old REO buff. “It’s that song people”! Wait, do I hear sirens?
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....Because, it's called a "corrupt seed", not a "corrupt egg"!
by blubloodcatfan on Jun 11, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, don't look at the situation with a fair and critical eye. Don't 'say' anything. Don't want to do that, do you?
It’s much easier to be blinded by loyalty. It’s easy to be lazy. Yea, let’s take out those cancers. Do it for the team. Do it for the old White and Blue. God Bless the almighty…God bless Cal.
Good grief.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair and critical ...
… is that how you would characterize your comments?
Well, you’re certainly half-right. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jun 12, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*To The Point*
Tru;I’ll take your rapier over Hoze"s club anyday. Straight to the heart and he didn’t even realize it.
"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.
by kydamcat on Jun 12, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, now, now,
Don’t get your panty hoze in a wad! How dost thou deal with ALL the nonsense that has went along with the UL programs over the years? How are you STILL a UL fan? How could you stand all of the hypocrisy of the Crum and Petrino years? How much did thou overlook? It’s called “dealin with it”. We all have things we have to deal with that we’d rather not if we are going to call ourselves loyal fans to whatever U. we support. So, here’s to you blowin it out your water hoze!!! It may be the only way YOU get clean. Don’t you worry yourself bout us over here, we’ve grown up and can take the good with bad without pointing our finger at everybody else. That’s just the kneejerk reaction, and I know your better then that. Adam started that one, and his first born son followed right after him. (cain) Which tree did your apple fall under?
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....Because, it's called a "corrupt seed", not a "corrupt egg"!
by blubloodcatfan on Jun 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on maybe writing the most disjointed & unintellgeable paragraph I've seen on this board in recent memory.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why thank you
Didn’t know we wuz grading things round here. Is that your version of “oh yeah”? You know, when you can’t think of a good reply. For those intellectually challenged in our midst, no names now, allow me to explain things to you. First, I’d have hoped for some love from you on trying to incorporate variations of that moniker name of yours into my responses! After a while it gets challenging. Personally, I was rather proud of “panty hoze”! Get it? Panty HOZE! But to come up with TWO in the same response! That’s overtime, and that’s time and a half. Water HOZE was a little easier, just to be honest, and I don’t really want you to blow it out of it. That sounds a little harsh. The references to UL’s history is self-explanatory.
I’ve said it before and mean every word of it: you need to thank Mr.Wooden on a daily basis. If it weren’t for him…….? Unintelligible? Is that what you were trying to spell? I laughed out loud over that one! To misspell the very word your using to challenge another persons ability to correspond in written form? Priceless. You outdid yourself there professor Hozeialism. The last reference is found in the Bible. It’s the best selling book of all time. By far!!! Ever heard of it? If not, I’d be glad to share some of it’s wisdom with you. I am after all, a minister. Just preached this morning.
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....Because, it's called a "corrupt seed", not a "corrupt egg"!
by blubloodcatfan on Jun 14, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah!
Just checking, but was that too fast for you? Did I say too much at once? I like you prince Hozearia, I really do. I think God may have put me here just to aggrivate you. You seem to rather enjoy trying to do that to everyone else. And I must admit, I get a kick out of it. Just tell me when you get your feelings hurt and I’ll back off. I can play nice when I want to.
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....Because, it's called a "corrupt seed", not a "corrupt egg"!
by blubloodcatfan on Jun 14, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, oh yeah,
almost forgot. Just wanted you to know that there’s plenty more “disjointed and unintellgeable” paragraphs where that one came from! Ya gotta be famous for something in life!
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....Because, it's called a "corrupt seed", not a "corrupt egg"!
by blubloodcatfan on Jun 14, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's bull
Cal didn’t recruit any of these players, he doesn’t owe them a thing. Players should be looked at after every year if you ask me. As I always come back to, colleges have no qualms about dropping academic scholorships when a player doesn’t perform, why should sports be any different?
by daniel81 on Jun 11, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, just like professors.
Whoops…that’s right we can’t. It’s that tenure thing.
Yea, just like coaches…whoops, that’s right we can’t. It’s that buy-out thing.
Regardless, if those damn kids can’t perform, then let’s boot them the hell out of here!!!! Yeee-haw. Bo Blue!!
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 11, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, we can "boot" the professors and the coaches.
If you allow a professor to obtain tenure, then you must have liked the job that was being done as it takes years to obtain tenure. As for the coach, we see coaches “booted” every day on a regular basis.
Personally, I don’t see what is the issue here. If a player does not pan out academically, we pull his scholarship and send him on his merry way as opposed to extra tutoring and a semester off. If a player does not pan out athletically, why can’t he be treated the same way? Once you get over 18, the real world is hard and if you do not carry your weight, you usually lose your job, position, ranking, privileges, etc.
by wklawdog on Jun 12, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pan out academically.
Yea, there are clear cut measurable qualifications going into accepting the academic scholarship. Each party understands and it can be quantified. That’s hardly the same when a new coach is hired and is free to boot out a player on his whim.
But if you are good with it, I’d look in the mirror and do a little self assessment on your opinion of what is fair.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 14, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair? You sound like a child with that comment.
The world is not fair, never was, never will be. If it was fair, I would have been born rich instead of so devilishly good looking.
by wklawdog on Jun 15, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...
Aren’t you the same guy that was hypercritical of Cal and the perception of even the most minute wrong doing in the Rose case?
This seems a bit out of character for you. Is it sarcasm?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 11, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giving a player a scholarship
That can’t qualify and you should know that is wrong and a complete fumble of responsibility. Telling a player to look elsewhere because they aren’t performing to me isn’t a big deal. They are totally separate issues.
Hoze, you really want to talk loyalty? Your coach can’t even stay faithful to his wife and will go down in the record books not for his wins but for the fact he’s a traitor.
by daniel81 on Jun 12, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Newton's contract....
…..adds to the bluster about academics. I was really disappointed that his bonuses heavily emphasizes wins vs grades. It would be nice if all the talk concerning the scholar side of the players actually led to a contract that gaves bonus money evenly between academics (grades, graduation) and winning on the court…. I guess I’m just dreaming.
by hoboat33 on Jun 12, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… I think we would all like to see that. I’m still a bit perplexed by that hire.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jun 12, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miami (OH) Football
Record over last 3 seasons – 10-27
by mrmondaynite on Jun 12, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Set up?
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
by btcoop71 on Jun 12, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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