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Morning Newspaper for May 8th, 2009

[UPDATE 2]

Mark Story has a piece today in which he takes on the job of Czar of all sports (just what we need, another czar of anything).  His intent is to fix a couple of things that are broken with high school and college sports.

The first point he makes is that he claims players are being "waived" because they haven't panned out as expected athletically.  I myself have bemoaned this point when it actually occurs, but when players are given the opportunity to stay with the caveat that they will likely ride the bench and then decide to transfer, this claim fails.  That's what Calipari is supposedly doing, and according to all reports, that's been the plan from the get-go.

Now, suppose for just a moment that all the players currently on UK's roster decide that they would rather stay at UK as a bench-warmer than play good minutes elsewhere.  It could happen, you know -- a young man could believe that he could find a way to get minutes despite the coach's honest assessment, or maybe would rather be part of a team that is a national championship contender than play at one who isn't.  We haven't seen that situation arise yet, but it could happen.  Then, Story's theory would be tested, and I would be very interested to see what happens.  Calipari could be putting himself in a very bad place if he isn't careful, but then again, we have seen this before and it worked itself out.  Let's hope it works itself out again this time as well.  As far as Story's suggestion for four-year scholarships, I am fine with that, by all means.

I kind of like his suggestion that football coaches not be allowed to negotiate a contract for a vacancy while the team has games remaining.  I also would like to see the alternating possession rule consigned to the dustbin of history and the jump ball brought back.  Finally, I think moving the high school sports calendar is not going to happen, nor should it.  Playing football in the heat is no problem as long as there is plenty of water and salt available.  Sorry Czar, that one's just too radical.

Now, for the rest of the news.

Star-divide

UK Basketball News

  • Kentucky's recruiting class is considered the nation's best.  More here.
  • Ridiculous Upside has Patrick Patterson going #26 to the Chicago Bulls, where he would compete with Joakim Noah for time.  Funny if that happened.
  • Bluegrass State Basketball says the CBS story that got everyone excited was an epic fail.  More from the Sixth Man and State of the Program.  Weird stuff usually happens around this time of the year.
  • Mike Miller at Beyond the Arc thinks Coach Cal has, "exceeded any reasonable expectations in his first few weeks as Kentucky coach" when it comes to recruiting.  I think he's right.
  • Luke Winn doesn't think UK's recruiting class means all that much.  He doesn't even have UK in his top 16, but he does have The Sweaty One and the Volunteers at #13. [via Mr. SEC]
  • DIME magazine says that John Calipari is making UK an instant national championship contender.  I'll keep my own counsel on that judgment, but I do think we can be very good next year, to say the least.
  • Dick "Hoops" Weiss points out that Lance Stephenson outplayed John Wall at the Nike Steve Nash guard camp last June.
  • [UPDATE 1]   One Wall away from history.  I really agree with the author, I think if Wall comes, this is the greatest recruiting class in NCAA history, at least since I have been following it.  Maybe there were better "back in the day," but in my memory, this would be the best with the Fab Five a close second.  More on UK's class being #1 at Straitpinkie.
  • [UPDATE 1]  Who is going to stay at Kentucky?
  • [UPDATE 1]  You have all heard about this by now.  Is UK the next, "Point Guard U?"

UK Football News

  • Tight end T.C. Drake has had successful surgery for a sports hernia, and should be back for the start of practice in August.
  • Track em Tigers doesn't think Rich Brooks will still be roaming the sidelines five years from now.  I think he's right.
  • Curtis Pulley trying to rehabilitate himself.

Other UK Sports News

  • UK softball pulls off a big upset in the SEC tournament.

NCAA Sports News

  • Pitino to the Sacramento Kings?  Well, I just don't see it, but I like this part:

    Pitino is no Larry Brown or Phil Jackson, but he would make a splash and the Kings could definitely use one. I'm not sure why he would want the Kings job, especially since he seems to have a good thing going at the collegiate level at Louisville. (As one media member half-jokingly suggested, maybe he's afraid of new Kentucky coach John Calipari.)
  • Coping in Memphis.
  • The Rick Pitino buzz is everywhere.  Right now, nobody seems to know what's up.  Here's the Yahoo! article that started it all, it was linked earlier by someone else in here.  There would be something incredibly droll about Traitor Rick leaving Louisville for the pros, but I really want to see Calipari vs. Pitino next December (or January) -- really bad.
  • [UPDATE 1]  Heh.
  • [UPDATE 1]  I would like to cast my vote for the later.  More on this here, and the Gary Parrish story blog post is here.
  • [UPDATE 2]  Eric Crawford has more on the Pitino kerfuffle.  Does this all sound familiar to 'Cat fans?  Just sayin ...

Other News of Interest

  • I've been getting tons of these telephone calls warning me about expiring warranty.  This is deceptive advertising designed to panic people, and qualfies as nothing more than a scam in my book.  If a recorded voice mentions the word, "Warranty" within the first few seconds of a phone call, I always hang up.  I recommend you do as well.

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Warranty Calls

I have been getting them for months now and they are really annoying. My practice is not to answer any call if I dont know who it is. If it’s legit they’ll leave a message. These warranty calls are all automated so they dont leave a message.

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by davw83 on May 8, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

This isn't right?

TransWorldNews had this in the link…

At this time, John Wall, the nation’s top player according to Rivals.com, stated that UK was his top choice.

I haven’t read anything about Wall making a short list. I read it might be by the end of the week….Even that is not certain…

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 8, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I think

Wall is “expected” (note the quotes there please) to narrow his list to UK, Miami, and Duke today.

Many still say UK is his top choice, and where he would go if left up to him and his mother. Clifton, apparently, is pushing Duke.

Do you have the link to the TransWorld article?

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on May 8, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is Tru's link

more HERE. On the first line..

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 8, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha-thanks. Missed that one.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on May 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wynn

Cant say i have much respect for Wynn’s opinion. I understand his hesitance regarding Pat, Jodie, and Wall but UT at 16 is a piece of crap. He calls them a good team last year. It made me laugh. Yes they made the tourney but they werent anything special and arent losing or adding much this season. Also becuase Pearl is an “olympic” coach it’s supposed to make him a better coach. All it makes him is one of numerous coaches picked to coach every summer that litter college basketball.

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by davw83 on May 8, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Warranty calls

Answer the call and press 1 for an operator, tell them you want to be removed from the list. I did, they quit calling. However it also says press 2 to be removed from the list. Option 2 doesn’t work.

by Rockett6 on May 8, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Jump ball

PLEASE bring back the jump ball. This is one (maybe the only) issue where I find myself in vociferous agreement with Dick Vitale.

by Acdixon on May 8, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed.....no more alternating posession

it kills the effort by the defense to go after the ball

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 8, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree......

Haven’t liked that rule from day one and still dislike it to this day…..
Don’t they still call it a “jump ball”? So let’s do as they say…Sometimes they may say HELD ball, but both thumbs up still signals jump to me :-)

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by a2d2 on May 8, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jump balls are tough to execute fairly

I refereed high school scrimmages years ago, and the toughest part of the job was the jump ball. The trick was to push the ball straight up and get it to the apex of the two contestants’ vertical jump. The game tip off wasn’t too bad because both players were about the same height. The problem came when a 5-8 guard tied up a 6-4 center. How high do you toss the ball? Is there any way to give these two players an equal chance to tip the ball to a teammate? What do you do when one player is 6-10 with a vertical of 12 inches and the other player is 6-2 with a 40 inch vertical?

Jump balls might work if the players doing the jumping were designated by the two coaches on each held ball call, and were not always between the two players involved in the held ball. In this scenario, I would prohibit coaches from sending a player from the bench into the game to execute the jump.

by Fortunatus on May 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

NBA Handles It

I agree that the held ball rule needs to revert to its previous status and the NBA officials seem to execute the task quite well. If there’s a problem a do-over is perfectly acceptable.

by Wild Weasel on May 8, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am in the jump ball camp

that’s the reward for a big man hustling for a loose ball. he gets to outjump a shrimp. just like players, if you are a ref in the pros, college even with the number of games that occur in an NCAA season, then your skills need to be on par as well.

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not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.

by bluecrip on May 9, 2009 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know if

any other schools are in this boat that we are in concerning scholarships? It seems that the media is targeting us in a lot of their articles lately….if it isnt salary, its scholarships. Are we back to being the dreaded three-headed monster in college basketball again?

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 8, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Scholarships

The simple solution is this: If a player does not “pan out,” the coach should be able to remove them for the team. BUT, the player should be able to keep his scholarship, and it should not count against the NCAA limit. So if Josh Harrelson (to use an example) isn’t going to fit Cali’s system, he (Calipari) shouldn’t be required to compromise his team by keeping him on and a more deserving player off. But at the same time, Harrelson should be allowed to get his education. This way, no one is disadvantaged.

Of course, a player could transfer just as before if PT is more important than completing his college degree at his original institution. But I think for a lot of players, if they aren’t going to play at a major college, they know they are probably not destined for the NBA and it may be time to focus on what academic institution makes sense for them, not where they can play ball. Not to use an example that would rile up the fan base, but if a player got a scholarship to Duke (or Stanford, if you prefer), but then couldn’t cut it as a player, it seems unfair that they should have to lose the opportunity to get a high quality (and likely unaffordable) education. The university (or athletic association) would then have to make the decision as to how important it is to free up the scholarship spot (since they will be footing the bill for the former player’s scholarship). All subject, of course, to minimum academic progress, conduct, etc.

N.B. – this is different to the Ravi Moss situation where he switched to an academic scholarship and remained on the team. I am talking about the player leaving the team in either case.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Ravi Moss

He was on academic scholarship all 4 years. Never switched to it. Came that way, stayed that way.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 8, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. Point still holds.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily...

If the player doesn’t fit into the new system and is holding up a scholarship opportunity for another player, then that player loses his scholarship. Scholarships are granted on a year-to-year basis. If the player can’t be picked up on scholarship at a different school, or prefers to stay at the school where they lost their scholarship, then they should be just like any other student who has to find a way to pay for their education.

All of these players are told upfront when they sign LOI that the scholarships awards are year-to-year and they are renewed on that basis. If a student who is on academic scholarship has a bad semester or two, do you think the university or the sponsor of the scholarship is going to allow that student to continue with failing grades? No, they lose the scholarship! That’s just the way it is.

by catfaninbham on May 8, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's the same thing

Right now, there are basically two choices in how to deal with a player that is doing the work (no disciplinary problems, showing up, trying, making grades, etc.), but is not quite good enough, neither of them pleasant:

1) A coach can yank the scholarship, which is within his rights but is a PR nightmare.

2) A player can transfer after being granted the option of sitting on the bench and taking a scolarship that could be used for someone else. That doesn’t really work. For example, let’s say Calipari is a stand-up guy and tells Harrelson, “you’re never going to play, but I don’t want the PR headache, so we will honor your scholarship, even though we don’t technically have to. And by the way, you’re the reason we can’t fit Wall onto this team, because we don’t have the scholarship available.” How is that a “choice” for Harrelson? His life would be made miserable by the fans / students, etc. So really, he has to move on, even if he was not technically pushed out.

This proposal lets everyone get what they want. And to your comparison with academic scholarships, the vast majority have a minimum requirement for continuation, but that bar is usually not that high (given the supposed academic ability of the incoming student) – usually something like a 3.0 or so. I would analogize that to being a good practice player, so to say that a scholarship should be yanked because a player can’t start in the DDMO is like saying an academic scholarship should be yanked because a kid isn’t first (or top five) in his organic chemistry class. Equally unfair.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

However...

Staying with the Harrelson comparison — “… we will honor your scholarship…” Who will honor it? The basketball program or the University? The basketball program can’t because of NCAA rules. If the University gave him a scholarship, then how is that fair to the kid down the street who applied for that same scholarship, had higher grades, ACT/SAT scores, and is more deserving of it. You’re not honoring a basketball scholarship anymore… it would purely be an academic scholarship. My two points… 1) He didn’t earn an academic scholarship, 2) There is no athletic scholarship available anymore. He would simply need to either hope for a transfer and that another school would award him an athletic scholarship, or he would have to come up with the money just like I had to and millions of other people. If he’s lucky enough to qualify above other candidates for an academic scholarship, then more power to him… but if he’s not, it’s really just tough luck.

As far as a PR nightmare… I really don’t think Coach Cal, the athletic department, or the University is worried about that. That situation doesn’t even compare to the PR they had to deal with (and are still dealing with) in regard to Calipari’s salary. This type of situation happens every year to many kids — it’s really just something we don’t hear that much about.

by catfaninbham on May 8, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems harsh

Seems like a relatively callous way to treat a young man whom everybody (ie., the player and coach) thought would be a contributing member of the team and would get a degree once they signed. Yes, I know the scholarships are technically renewable, but I don’t think any player (with the exception of Donald Williams) really believes they are only here on a year-by-year basis.

And I don’t think that the PR issue can be completely discounted – wait until the wrath of Tru gets unleashed! ;-)

Finally, I grant that under current NCAA rules this does not work – what I am arguing for is a CHANGE to the rules such that this is permissible in the future. Once permissible, the broader university (or UKAA, in UK’s unique circumstance) would be the ones footing the bill. If they can’t afford it, then the coach can’t over-recruit.

Again, if the player is a complete moron/knucklehead, then they should be dismissed with prejudice. But this is not the case here – Josh Harrelson should not have to suffer (in the sense that he has to find a new school) because BCG did not shake enough boosters’ hands.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What it comes down to...

I appreciate your point of view, but I don’t agree that the NCAA should change this rule. I think there are way too many other deserving people who would die for a scholarship to attend the University of Kentucky. If the NCAA did change the rule and allowed this to happen, they would ultimately be taking the money from somewhere else. Even if it came out of the UK Athletic Dept. budget, which has more than enough $$ to cover it, then every school would have to follow the same rule — and the problem with that is most of them couldn’t afford it unless they raise ticket prices and charge outrageous fees for other booster activities. It’s all about money! It has to come from somewhere. It’s not that I want to see this happen to a kid like Harrelson, but until every kid in the country has equal opportunity and resources to attend a university like UK, then I don’t think a scholarship should be handed over to him just because he’s not good enough to play in the “new” program. Imagine for a moment that we’re not talking about Josh Harrelson… instead it was Michael Porter. I don’t think too many people argue that he wasn’t good enough to be a UK basketball player — let alone a starter. So if Coach Cal took his scholarship away, we’re supposed to pat him on the back and say, “Here ya go! Here’s an education on us!”

by catfaninbham on May 8, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

We happen to disagree, but I take your point.

I just feel there is a difference in creating an upheaval in someone’s life (ie., forcing a transfer) and not doing more to help others (ie., giving a scholarship to some other person who has yet to set foot on campus).

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it would be the financial burden you describe

Consider that these kinds of scholarship crunches are very rare and the issue of a coach telling a player he isn’t going to play is only going to occur after a coaching change. At most I bet we’re only talking about 1 or 2 such extra scholarships per decade and even then they are only for 3 years at most since the player has already been at the school for at least 1 season.

I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra

by JLeverenz on May 8, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy way to fix this....

make ALL scholarships on a year to year basis, just like academics are on a semester to semester basis. Change the way recruiting is done….let these kids re-aquire their scholarship each year….its not pretty, but it would be even across the board

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the way it already is already.

If your solution is that more scholarships should not be renewed so that everyone will now believe they are on a constant tryout. . . then, no thanks, I’ll pass.

And again, academic scholarships are NOT done that way – you have to meet a minimum threshold, but you don’t have to re-apply every semester (obviously some exceptions, but generally that is the case).

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it better with two

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on May 8, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here in Kentucky....MOST public

Universities offer academic scholarships can be voided after each semester if you do not meet the mimimum requirements….I am helping fund one such student….came in last semester at .10 under the guideline. Got a nice long letter explaining it to me. As far as the constant tryout goes, do the same thing….set a minimum standard that the player has to meet to maintain the scholarship….and don’t ask me how to set it up, I dont get paid enough to come up with that complicated a formula….lol….already…

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 8, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that what I said?

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easier way...

Have try-outs every year before the season starts and only give scholarships to the players that make the team. That way, if only 10 scholarships are available and ten players better than Harrelson try out, nobody will be accused of “yanking” a scholarship away from a “good kid.”

I know…this is never going to happen. But I thought I would just weigh in anyway.

by tooblue on May 8, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one?

wow, I’m a little surprised by that.

by Ontherocks on May 8, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Given some of the decisions they made on the court last year. . . ;-)

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by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

A 3.3 is pretty stout

You have to get more A’s than B’s to get that.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on May 8, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's an interesting idea, but I disagree with one aspect
if they aren’t going to play at a major college, they know they are probably not destined for the NBA and it may be time to focus on what academic institution makes sense for them

Many players can also play professionally overseas, but even if you lump them in with potential NBAers, I expect that most players’ desire to play college basketball has little to do with playing professionally afterwords. That doesn’t mean they should give up on it. It’s like taking an elective outside your major because you enjoy the subject, not because you think it’s going to help you after graduation.

I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra

by JLeverenz on May 8, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but. . .

Would you pick a school because it had a good ceramics department and you wanted to take a pottery elective? Or would you decide based on your overall fit (academically, socially, and otherwise) at the school, even if maybe you couldn’t take pottery?

I just feel that once a student is not “good enough” to play at their desired university, they may want to consider other factors (like all the honeys at Two Keys) before being “forced” to transfer to play ball (or to find a cheaper school).

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point is, most players know they aren't going to play professionally

They play because they want to, not because they think it’s going to make them a living. I’m sure most, if not all, of them hope they can make it their living, but the kinds of player’s we’re talking about – the Harrellson’s and the Porter’s of the world – probably know long before they sit down with a new coach that they aren’t going to earn their bread playing basketball.

I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra

by JLeverenz on May 8, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then they can transfer and no one would complain

I’m talking about the situation where the player realizes that bball is no longer foremost in his life, but he is otherwise quite happy and successful (off the court) at his chosen university. Seems like we should be looking for ways to help that person (and, let’s face it, also provide the Coach a way to upgrade the roster as he sees fit without being crucified in the media).

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by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's fine

My original nit was the implicit assumption that the only reason someone plays basketball is to go to the NBA, which is separate (to my mind) from the optional scholarship idea you proposed (which I think has some merit).

I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra

by JLeverenz on May 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about the flip side...

the player is allowed to leave after one, two or three years – should he be required to honor the commitment for four years.

i feel for the harrelson’s of the world therefore i do believe giving them a scholarship if they, in good faith, worked hard and maintained grades but did not fit into a new coaches system. however, my gut is a player like him will not want to ride the pine just for a shot at a ring….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 8, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they should be free to go

This is not indentured servitude – they are already punished by having to sit out as a transfer.

As JLeverenz points out, this is something that is unlikely to come up that often. Nor should it be used as a way for a university with excess funds to recruit 10 players for 4 spots every year.

The details would obviously need to be finessed, but there has to be a better solution than a shove out the door (explicit or implicit), which is where the current policy stands.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect example...

Marvin Stone! I say if he wants to go, let him go. If another school wants to give him a scholarship, that’s up to them. I wouldn’t want him on the team if he’s not happy. He’d only bring the rest of the team down.

Think of it this way… the scholarship is the kid’s payday while he’s in college. He’s not unionized like a professional athlete, so, therefore he’s not “owed” anything. If you work at a job that recognizes “at-will” employment, they can let you go for any reason whatsoever — and, vice versa — you can leave them for any reason whatsoever. But, no matter who terminates the employment, the employer is not going to continue paying you after you’re gone.

Now, if/when the kid makes it as a professional athlete, then they can be protected by this sort of thing. They have binding contracts and all that stuff… but I would have to say if they’re good enough to make it professionally, then the college they’re attending probably isn’t going to strip them of their scholarship.

Overall, it’s just a tough break for some of these kids. What would be worse? Harrelson being forced out, transfers somewhere else that gives him a scholarship and he sees quite a bit of playing time — OR, a player like Perry Stevenson or Ramon Harris, who were starters last year, get to keep their scholarships but the ride the pine and average 5 minutes per game?

I guess my point is since Kentucky is back to the elite status with Coach Cal and this recruiting class (and hopefully Meeks/Patterson), there had to be sacrifices. It started with BCG, and now it trickles down to the sub-par players he and Tubby left the program with. It really does suck! But I wouldn’t want to give up what we have to change it.

by catfaninbham on May 8, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lance Stephenson

Does anyone think Calipari is willing to give Lance Stephenson a so called “second chance”?

by lccat on May 8, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope...

If Stephenson were a ‘10 recruit, then possibly. But since he’s a ’09 recruit, not a chance.

by catfaninbham on May 8, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calipari has inffered that Stephenson begged him to let him come to UK

Cal said ’ We want givers at UK not takers".

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by davw83 on May 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends

If both Patterson and Meeks left thus altering the scholarship configuration and if Calipari thought it would make the team better then he might consider an offer to Stephenson. Although from past comments it seems Calipari has already made a judgment on Stephenson’s fit within team concepts.

by Wild Weasel on May 8, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teague Appears On Calipari Radar

Indianapolis 2011 PG Marcus Teague now has interest from UK along with several others.

by Wild Weasel on May 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

younger brother I believe

by schizm42 on May 8, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, he's his younger brother.

He’d be perfect for the dribble-drive…and he knows it.

Right now a lot of recruiting analysts think he’s the top PG in 2011 class.

He’s supposed to make his decision in June. Don’t be surprised if it’s UK.

by BBallSophist on May 8, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. That's early for a player of his caliber to make a decision.

I’m not sure what would raise my blood pressure more:

1. A great player waiting until Wall/Patterson to commit, thus leaving me keeping my fingers crossed for 1 or 2 years that they choose UK;

OR

2. A great player committing very early, thus leaving me keeping my fingers crossed for 1 or 2 years that they don’t change their mind.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on May 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Cousin Vinny...

Anybody know if Zollo is on Coach Cal’s good list?

by catfaninbham on May 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently, they are eyeing each other warily

and Zollo remains “cautiously optimistic” that he will be a wildcat. Think I read that a month or so ago, but I can’t remember the link (think it was in the LHL).

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I...

read that Cal would evaluate him this summer in AAU play. Sorry, no link.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.

by the spork on May 8, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach Cal's tweets

He had this to say yesterday about KY fans….

UKCoachCalipariLove it! 18k followers! In 3 wks!! How many people live in KY? 4 mil? Lets live in the moment BUT dream big dreams. Are you having fun yet?about 20 hours ago from txt

Today he posted a link to a very nice article on Rondo. It is here.

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 8, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone have a link to any clips of Darnell Dodson?

I couldn’t find any.

flat-tops and mid-range jumpers.

by the monster mash on May 8, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

They...

had a short video of him over at KSR. It was a while back so you would have to sift through the earlier entries.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.

by the spork on May 8, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a pretty old one, too.

It was back when he first went JUCO. It wasn’t a good video.

I could never find any current video.

by BBallSophist on May 8, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Video

Try this.

Don’t ban me, Tru!. . .

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lousy thing to do NYC

its been tried here before…..may not get you banned, but it should get you temporarily suspended…..lol

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 8, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it is

I’m feeling punchy today.

I figured the fact that you can seee the link name when you hover over it (plus the request not to get banned) would save me from the worst punishment. . .

The King is dead! Long live the King!

by NYCCats on May 8, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Well, there you go. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 8, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just found this letter to PPat

on Spam’s Wildcat page. It is an open letter that Ryan Lemond wrote to PPat. It is dated yesterday. I really liked the letter. I wanted to share it with you here…
Here is the link . Hope you enjoy it too…
:-)

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 8, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

OK ...

… check yours. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 8, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK.

I went ahead and put it up. Didn’t know if you were watching. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 8, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind ...

… I already put it up.

Hey, all, check the front page.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 8, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

YIPEEEEEEE :-)

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 8, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Renew scholarships

It all comes out to be the same…If you get a C in chemistry and other classes you lose your scholarship. If you get a C in the DDO you lose your scholarship. That’s the way it is, right? Fans shouldn’t hate.

by Rockett6 on May 8, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

What's a player's obligation?

Some kids sign with a college out of high school and stay loyal to the school. But others jump ship when it’s advantageous for them to the detriment of the school.

Harrellson & Pilgrim signed on for an ostensible four years with other schools before they came to Kentucky. UK is Galloway’s 4th college since he graduated high school.

If you’re gonna require schools to keep kids four years, then kids shouldn’t be allowed to transfer. The year-to-year requirement seems fair to all. I’m not even sure a kid should have to sit a year after transferring.

by Fortunatus on May 8, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

that was my point above in my post "what about the flipside"

but you stated it better than I.

this is a two way street – kids can leave before 4 years are up.. sometimes they are “asked” to leave before 4 years are up. not saying i like it, but live is not fair…..

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 8, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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