Pitino running out the back door?
by bluebloodtoo on May 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT
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Word on the street, according to KSR, is that rumours are pouring in from everywhere that Pitino might be considering retirement. The expectation seems to be that this is going to be announced very soon. Matt doesn't give many details and I don't want to speculate on the reasons, but I'm sure everyone can jump to the same conclusion that I see based on the recent allegations of blackmail...
Here is the KSR article link -
http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=18930
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If he retires, doesn't that lady ultimately win (kind of) ?
She didn’t get her money, but she would have managed to influence Pitino negatively.
This is 100% rumor, though.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Though, I heard the rumors first flowing around the office, and then checked the internet. On a personal level, it lends more weight in my head to the potential truth of this, based on my colleagues.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Yeah... I have no idea
what amount of actual truth there is to this, but it wouldn’t not surprise me in the least. It’s not like Pitino hasn’t been fanning this type of smoke before. I guess it’s about time that an actual “fire” broke out.
GO BIG BLUE!!
It never was a link.
You have to highlight the URL, hit CTRL+C, then go to your browser, and hit CTRL+V. I know it’s a lot of work! Hahahahah.
The rumor just broke in today's post
Just rumors, It may not be Karen that is involved….just rumors
But Richard P, little Ricky and
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Still a Kentucky boy ...
I still consider Pitino a part of Kentucky so I hope any “retirement” or move to another school isn’t the result of something negative forcing it upon him.
So, is this the other shoe
dropping?…..IF it turns out that this Sypher woman was somewhat legit, and I say somewhat because she does not sound like she is one bit legit, does she turn out to be justified?….The rumors are getting out of hand….they are talking everything from resigning to going back to the NBA, to a gay affair between Pitino and that Equipment manager….and people call us redneck at Kentucky…..Louisville is going to end up making us look like a metropolitan utopia!
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The gay affair sure puts another twist on the
nickname: Spitino.
I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.
Oh, somebody made a stupid
You Tube video of clay people suppose to be Pitino and Calipari talking, weeks ago. That video was trying to touch on what went on in men’s locker rooms. I thought it was sort of stupid.
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Gillispie to Louisville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 8, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions
Tink, that is possible :-)
He was at Churchill Downs on Wednesday before the Derby, for no apparent reason….
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
You mean that it is a fact that
he was there “for no apparent reason”???
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So if Gillispie went to Louisville...
Who would you cheer for?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
So I am going to coach at UL?
“You sound like you know more about it than I do.”
Gillispie ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 8, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. Just. . .wow.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
I Highly Doubt That
Louisville would want a Top Tier coach to replace Pitino.
Gillispie is nowhere close to that. He’s not even Top 50 among active coaches.
His best fit will be a lower profile school in Texas. He’s not cut out for Top Shelf programs.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 8, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Pitino's ego that big 40
that he just can’t leave the NBA alone, or is it like Larry Brown who has to move on every few years??
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No Idea
Most great (fill in the blank) have a large ego.
I’m amazed Pitino stayed 8 years at Louisville already.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 8, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
G to Louisville????
I would almost sacrifice a year of Tru’s pay to see Jurich hire Gillispie.
Talk about aways having plenty to write about. It would be great!
But, alas the odds of that happening are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1
by Ken Howlett on May 10, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're saying it's possible. . .
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
I warned you earlier ...
… and I will warn you again, just to make sure you see this. Stop crusading against Gillispie, and stop bashing him.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Sactown
I dont see Ricky P leaving UofL for Sactown. The Kings SUCK big time. The reason college coaches fail in the NBA is becuase the only teams looking to hire them are poorly managed organizations with bad or young players. He has to know he will fail in Sacramento as he did in Boston. The top shelf NBA programs always go for NBA guys when making a hire.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
"Poorly managed organizations"
that’s rather funny. And in this case I think that’s right.
Aren’t the Kings owned by the Maloof brothers? It would seem that they have better heads for running and managing night clubs/hotels/casinos (as in the Palms in Las Vegas) than they do for running a sports franchise.
I don't know
Back in the day when they had Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webber, and Vlade, they had a pretty good thing going. No, they never got the illusive ring, but neither did Stockton and Malone. Eventually, they had to blow it up because all the players were getting too old, and they haven’t rebuilt well, but at least at one time, it seemed like the Maloofs knew what they were doing.
The days of the "Sacramento Queens" as Shaq called them are long gone.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Winning NBA Teams Have The Best PLAYERS
The coaches don’t matter all that much.
Best Players
Goes back to the organization. The most important piece of an NBA program is the GM. It is the GM that is responsible for putting together the players.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Jerry Krause Said That (In Late 1990's)
Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson begged to differ.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 9, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he proved it right
He was a terrible GM and it showed.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Geoff Petrie
He has a better than average performance as GM/President of BBO: NBA EOY twice, 9 playoffs and 2 division titles in 14 seasons. He and Kings were unfortunate to have to beat Shaq and Lakers — not to mention, the officials — on road to championship.
That's not a bad record
But they havent made any significant moves in the last couple of season except to trade away players that can help them. They need to add some significant pieces to get back to being respectable.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Just wondering
What happened to the UL fan that was always posting on here?? Since all of the great news at UK with the hiring of JC and the recruits coming plus all of the bad Cards news with maybe more to come,he has gone AWOL.
HozeKing showed up Thursday and yesterday
to blather on about how he couldn’t believe UK would sink to such depths as to recruit John Wall. He made a few other statements to get a rise, and left again. I’m sure he’s still lurking, waiting to strike.
I’m surpised he hasn’t commented that he thinks Patterson is stupid for returning—he went on and on about how Patterson should stay in the draft and that only an idiot (paraphrasing) would return.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
You guys got a little ahead of yourself regarding Pitino, huh?
The yada-yada going back and forth on these rumors exceeds what my in-laws do back in Henderson. Too funny.
Yea, I was wrong about Patterson. There is no accounting for ‘stupidity’. It will be interesting to see how he is going to prove himself as a face-to-the-basket player, a 14’ shooter, a passer, and a ball handler in Gillispie’s system since he has never proven that he has those skills. If he does well, it will be a good move for him…..but that is a huge if.
Geeez, Blbskue, I haven’t had someone so interested in that activity since that little red headed girl in 8th grade….kind of creepy really.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Hoze, you don't think that
Patterson can benefit at all by returning?
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He absolutely CAN benefit.
But I think the risks out weight the rewards. I think it can be fairly argued that one of the reasons he was so highly ranked was due to his potential. By choosing to come back, he has to turn that potential into proof. If he can learn and prove the skill sets I stated above, great for him.
If he doesn’t, it won’t be a good move. Scouts tend to pick apart your game if you stay too long. I offer Hansborough as proof.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
But didnt the scouts already have that opinion of Hansborough BEFORE
he decided to stay? I remember reading things on him having some work to do to get into the pros and STAY there as far back as his sophomore season
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He was the player of the year last year.
This year he got his game picked over and picked over. Nothing he did this year improved his standings…arguably all his hard work and winning the NC just hurt it. Even Ole Roy referenced this in his post game conference.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Hoze, I am actually glad that RP is sticking around
But do you think this thing with him is all over?
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What thing? The extortion?
Who knows. But all the rumor mongering and the back & forth on this board serves as evidence why this crime is considered so serious.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
He does not deserve any undue criticism as far as I am concerned
in this extortion case, but I have NEVER seen one of these sports related he said-she said situations come out completely clean for either side, guilty or not. I would have loved to see the guy wind up in the Hall of Fame without a blemish anywhere, but you have to admit that this thing will be like an albatross around his neck for a while….win or lose.
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That's my point....there was nothing in this case that is 'sports related'.
The woman’s lawyer from the get-go stated that it wasn’t about the university or recruiting. But regardless, the drum beats on….and that is the reason extortion is so serious.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I guess I should have
said “sports-related persons”???….All I am saying is that he won’t walk away completely clean of this thing….or do you think he will?
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It's ADD
Adulation Deficit Disorder. When Ricky’s not getting adulation, he goes nuts. He manufactures some situation to generate it.
That's the way I see it
Contacting the Kings was his way of getting the spotlight back on him
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
I Say Good-Bye, Good Riddance To Pitino When/If He Leaves
He had a remarkable 2 years at UK in 1996 and 97.
His other 20 years never matched those 2 seasons.
Not me
I will always be a RP fan. Regardless of how people feel about him now,he did a lot for the program returning it to dominance in the 90’s. He had more than two remarkable years at UK in my opinion. Every year he had the team in the hunt for a FF with the exception of his first two because of probation. The 90’s were nothing but fun for me when he was at UK. And I think he has done a great job at UL.
I hope he stays at UL because I think the rivalry will be even more intense with Coach Cal here. I think it could become a even better rivalry than UNC-Duke if RP stays.
69-7 (91%) Those 2 Years
150-43 (78%) the other 6 years.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 9, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What is your point, Forty?
As far as I can tell, all you’ve really shown here is “96 and 97 were Pitino’s two best years” though you seem to be implying that a 78% win percentage is unremarkable or worse. (?)
Pitino's Fame Is Built On 1996 And 1997
Those are the only 2 years (out of 22) where he ever won FF game(s).
by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
40 you really give NO credit to Pitino for
bringing the program back from purgatory? How can you say that….He coached the greatest comeback I have ever witnessed in a game, took a group of kids who were not much more than a lot of heart and guts to within a hair’s breath of winning what I consider the greatest tournament game of all time…brought a new style of basketball to UK, and made us once again a national power, and you give him credit only for having 2 good seasons….How can you justify that
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Oh, Sure
But his fame and glory comes from 1996 and 1997 seasons.
Other UK coaches recovered from “purgatory” too.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Hall
His UK team was placed on “purgatory” in 1976 by NCAA yet recovered to win NC just 2 years later.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not sure if I
would give that the same regard since Joe was the coach when the probation happened, but the fact remains.Most coaches would not have survived their program being put on probation, I am glad UK let him stay.
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no, this makes no sense
If you want to say “Pitino was excellent but not the second coming of the messiah you crazy people” then fine. But you said “goodbye and good riddance” and threw out some stats as if he was an unremarkable coach.
150-43
14 of those losses came in his first year with a very lackluster roster.
by maysvilleblue on May 10, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Same Roster (More Or Less) As 1991 Or 1992
The key players on the 1990 team returned in 1991 to go 22-6 and went 29-7 in 1992.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions
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