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Breaking News: The NCAA Alleges Major Violations at Memphis for the 2007-2008 Season

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"You gotta be kidding me!"

Via this FanPost, the Memphis Commercial-Appeal is reporting alleged major NCAA violations against the Memphis men's basketball program while John Calipari was coach.  The allegations include  “knowing fraudulence or misconduct” on an SAT exam by a player on the 2007-2008 Memphis team that went to the NCAA finals.

The part that will concern Kentucky fans is this:

Calipari, who left Memphis for Kentucky on March 31, is not named in the report, but the NCAA has requested his presence at the hearing.

It is good news for Calipari and UK that he is not named in the report, but this is the preliminary inquiry only and you can absolutely expect that any possible involvement by the UK nee Memphis coach will be fully explored by both Memphis and the NCAA Committee on Infractions.

This place is going to go nuts over the next few days, as these allegations, on top of all the hype the Calipari move to UK has produced is bound to create a major mediagasm, as well as a bloggasm of seismic proportions.  We will have much more on this story in the morning.

Sleepless update:  UK has issued a statement, which has been reported here.  Please note the relevant part:

It is normal procedure for the NCAA to ask a former coach to participate in a hearing. Therefore, Coach Calipari will participate as requested.

Coach John Calipari has received a letter from the NCAA stating that he is not at risk of being charged with any NCAA violations in this case.

I think that should just about put this to bed.  Me as well.  Tomorrow, we can enjoy the tut-tutting from our rivals, and we can make remarks like "Yeah, we got the second coming of the Teflon Don."  I dearly love Mafia references.  I think I'll watch The Godfather before I nod off. 

Tomorrow, we may see a few heads explode here in the River City.  I can hardly wait.

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that final four gets vacated, there will be a lot of “I told ya so’s” flying around. UK has issued a statement that said they knew about this during the hiring process and we all know that the NCAA gave Cal the all clear during that time. This is just going to give the Card fans some extra ammunition.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.

by the spork on May 27, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NCAA

I read in the LexH story that Memphis was notified January 16. Remember all the comments on hiring that Calapri had been totally vetted with NCAA and Memphis. Interesting. Wow…we had three headlines tonight…BCG, Wall and this. I think all of us will benefit from more reading and not too much judging at this time. Those “agin” us will not change their minds in any way. Those of us who support our school and our team will keep our focus. .

by CAWebb on May 28, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blame Stern

The wording of the report basically makes it clear that the player in question was Derrick Rose. It’s hard to imagine who else it would be.

That makes this the first academic scandal to come to light in the era of the NBA age limit, but I doubt it will be the last. I certainly have no love for Kentucky basketball as a Gator fan, and I don’t much care for Calipari, but this one goes on David Stern as much as it does anyone else.

Basketball should have a system like baseball does where if a player is ready after high school he can go pro, but if he goes to college he must stay for a couple of years. The age limit really doesn’t solve anything from the NBA’s standpoint (okay, so now instead of 18-year-olds who may or may not be ready, they’re getting 19-year-olds who may or may not be ready), and it creates all kinds of headaches for colleges like this.

It still happened on Calipari’s watch, but the test in question was the SAT which always happens in high school. This is not an FSU-like situation with cheating on college courses. The overall lesson is that Calipari (and every coach, really) needs to be even more super extra careful around obvious one-and-done guys.

by Year2 on May 28, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well ...

… you can be as careful as a steelworker on a 6" beam dangling from a crane at 75 stories, and still not get it right 100% of the time.

Just sayin’. :-) But your point is taken.

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by Truzenzuzex on May 28, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off to Indiana To Work In the Morning

And I’ll be getting my share from the UofL and IU fans but so be it

….Better get my rest

by LyricSmith on May 28, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just smile and say ...

… “Teflon.” :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on May 28, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just ask them..

“Please tell me EXACTLY what Cal has done?”. (crickets)

UK already knows the facts, SATs are given by high schools, Camby?-forget it

by hoboat33 on May 28, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Teflon"..."Crickets"

Man, you gotta love this place. A must-visit site for the well-armed Big Blue fan. As has been said here many times before, “Embrace the Hate!”

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...Hunter S. Thompson

by UK72CatFan on May 28, 2009 6:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best line so far(KSR)

Can’t have the Empire without Darth Vader.

by -Zoso- on May 28, 2009 6:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not hanging my hat on this one, either.

Coach Cal is a great recruiter and a pipeline to the NBA. Other great coaches (Roy Williams, Bill Self, etc) are great recruiters with the same NBA pipeline, but they don’t have the stink around them that Coach Cal does. Coach Cal’s recruiting success is surrounded by a cloud of handlers, runners and questionable characters. It isn’t long before someone blows the cover on this guy. There’s a bunch of smoke and the fire’s not far behind.

But, not in this case.

You can question whether he should have been more in touch with his 15-member squad to know if something like this was going on. Goodness knows, if he gets to know his recruits as intimately as he does by talking to them daily as he sells them on the program, he ought to suspect when a kid is dirty (e.g. surprisingly good test score when the kid can’t …). But that’s about all we can say in this case “maybe he shoulda known”.

I’ll save my powder for when the real violations are exposed that directly relate to dirty recruiting.

by memphispete on May 28, 2009 7:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where Were U The Past 9 Years?

IF such “dirt” existed, why not complain then?

by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

In all likelihood for the past 9 years you never voiced any concern over Coach Cal, now that he has gone on to “BLUER” pastures, it’s time to jump on the bash Cal bandwagon.

by Thestache on May 28, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are both wrong

Been there for a long time.

It’s just that the criticism has been directed toward Memphis Tiger fans for several years. It has only become relevant to UK fans because he’s now your ‘problem’ to defend.

The wonderfully amusing aspect of this is that the same Tiger fans who defended Coach Cal while things were going well for them (in the last half of those 9 years) are now re-using my arguments. So, that’s what they mean by recycling… Sweet!

by memphispete on May 28, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dana Kirk

Dirt at Memphis goes back a LONG time.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the attempted distraction, but we are talking about Coach Cal

Dana Kirk was a piece of work, but that’s not really relevant to Coach Cal.

Appreciate the
Non sequitur (humor), a comment that has no relation to the preceding comment or to an ongoing discussion or topic

KY has a deeper, richer tradition … of cheating.

And, it looks like you have hired the perfect guy to keep things going. As HozeKing says in his classic Godfather reference below, it’s all about BUFFERS, baby.

I’d add the concept of PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. Coach Cal gets those great NBA talents into school BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. But, with Camby and Rose, he has plausible deniability and buffers, baby. It’s just a dirty little coincidence. Riiiight.

by memphispete on May 30, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Don't Recall Anything But That Sort Of Thing At Memphis

The program has good fans but has always been on the edge of the envelope, often over the edge.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 30, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Memphis Was Dirty LONG BEFORE John Calipari Became Div I Coach

1985 comes to mind. Dana Crook, oops, I mean Kirk (et al).

by FortyYearCatFan on May 31, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please read my reply more carefully

I have already acknowledged “Dana Kirk was a piece of work”. Shall we go through the litany of Kentucky infractions? The deep, rich tradition of cheating in hoops? Nope, not here.

The focus is on Coach Cal, which is why your comments remain unrelated to the topic. Nice try at a distraction, sir.

by memphispete on May 31, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Doubt = UK Cheated In 50's - 70's - 80's (Twice)

My note above was posted about the same time as the other discussion.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 1, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone knew this was a possibility when

Coach Cal was brought in….time to circle the wagons and keep support levels where they have been the last few weeks. This is not the time to go jumping ship. Embrace the Hate…….

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 28, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Godfather II
Senator Pat Geary: Mr. Cici, was there always a buffer involved?
Willi Cici: A what?
Senator Pat Geary: A buffer. Someone in between you and your possible superiors who passed on to you the actual order to kill someone.
Willi Cici: Oh yeah, a buffer. The family had a lot of buffers!

You asked for it. :)

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 28, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

Very droll, indeed. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on May 28, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After reading the report

the allegations consist of a player who’s SAT is being questioned, and a person who improperly received the benefits of travel and lodging from the university. The SAT was completed by the player (or not) before

being admitted to the University….sounds to me like their compliance officer didnt do their job….?….am I right on this one The travel supposedly can be explained as an “oversight” since the person who received the travel and lodging either was reimbursing the University, or something to that effect??

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 28, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well ...

… The compliance office can’t really check for cheating on the SAT. My recollection is that those are proctored by the school, and if something was wrong with the testing process, Memphis compliance would not likely be able to find out.

How these things are usually questioned is an unusual change in the score of an SAT, where a guy went from doing very poorly on a section of the test to doing well. The tests are designed, supposedly, to test actual understanding rather than rote memory, so if a player’s fundamental understanding undergoes a quantum leap, it would be a red flag. If that didn’t happen, Memphis compliance would be hard pressed to justify suspicions, particularly if they were predisposed not to do so.

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by Truzenzuzex on May 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's Nothing They Can Do

If the player cheats on the exam the first time that they take it. There is no baseline to compare it against.

My guess is that Rose took some practice tests and knew he was in trouble, so he had someone who had already passed it with a decent score take it for him. Someone who knew they would pass, but not so well that it would be suspicious looking.

I have to agree with the above poster, this is all a result of the one-and-done rule. I don’t mind taking one-and-done players since they have to go somewhere, but I will be glad when they change that rule, so that kids who are good enough just go, and the others make a long term commitment.

by Wunderkind on May 28, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So much for the media fawning on Cal now

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on May 28, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You surely ...

… did not think it would last. Did you?

Welcome to reality. Houses here are cheap, but amenities few. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on May 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Barnhart mess continues

 As a diehard Kentucky fan who has followed the program since 1973, I am disgusted by the allegations against Memphis. Under Calipari, UMass went to the Final Four and that had to be vacated after UMass went on probation and Calipari left. Cal was not “named” in the UMass mess. Now Memphis likely go on probation, if found guilty, and will have to vacate its Final Four and 38 victories, after Calipari left. Cal was not "named in the Memphis mess. Can anyone say PATTERN? I mean one time I can understand and maybe see. But the second time, I do not accept. This is a Pattern that will continue. I do not want to read someday that Kentucky is on probation, but Cal is not “named” in the Kentucky mess and Cal is gone somewhere else. Coaches are rarely named in probation cases and they hardly ever punished like the schools are.
 I do not know about other Kentucky fans, but my love and dedication is to the school, not the coach. The school is the only thing that does not change.
 I remember the Mark Story open letter to the UK administration regarding Calipari “past” BEFORE he was hired. He was blasted by many fans and even had calls for the Herald to fire him. Why cant Calipari be questioned? It reminds me of a recent presidential campaign where one candidate could never be questioned.
 I know that Calipari has not been “named” by the NCAA. Hell, he was not at UMass either. But the facts show that the last two programs Cal has coached, one has gone on probation and the other has 4 major violations under review- after he LEFT.
 If this came out on January 16, 2009, why did this not come to the public until May 27, 2009? Why did Barnhart not mention it before now? The Mitch Barnhart mess continues.
 Sure I want to win and win bad. But for those UK fans who do not remember the 1980s when Sports Illustrated cover page had a basketball player and “Kentucky Shame”, I want to win with class. Whatever you think, noone ever questioned the integrity of Pitino or Tubby Smith when they were the coaches at Kentucky. That is not only what I want from the coach at Kentucky, it is what I EXPECT from the coach at Kentucky.
 Coach Cal, if you want to cheat, please do us a favor and quit and go somewhere else. I do not want a repeat of that 1989 Sports Illustrated. Winning a basketball game merely is not that important.

by marion c on May 28, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

If it was just UMass, you could brush it off. However, 2 in a row…concerned. Sounds like UK knew about this, but I am also pretty sure the NCAA would have let them know they cannot release any info on it until the NCAA releases the info; that is why UK was able to respond so quickly, they probably had the letters already written.

by Thestache on May 28, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 players having a violation

over the span of time the we are talking about here……1996-2008 is not critical folks….especially if it is something that the Coach has no control over….if this indeed happened BEFORE the player went to Memphis then where does the blame lie? and the Camby situation is TOTALLY different….Camby took from what at that time was basically an agent…..2 different situations. Should a Coach know when a player takes from sources money and other things?? I honestly cannot figure out how to place blame here…..Reminds me of “Blue Chips”….the player that was point shaving worked completely outside the Coach’s knowledge….but the payments and gifts to players were “implied”…now this isnt hollywood, but…………

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 28, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double Standards

Let’s face it. If a Kentucky coach drops a quarter because he has a hole in his pocket and a recruit finds it, it’s the most horrible thing a coach could ever do. But if an ACC school or Notre Dame holds a press conferences to announce that they are giving a player an new Range Rover, the NCAA turns a blind eye. Obviously, this is an exaggeration, but you get the point.

by UKCat on May 28, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To HozeKing

Hoze, you may recall that your beloved Cardinals avoided the death penalty because the NCAA forgot to read them their rights. (Or did the check clear? I’ve forgotten which.)

by UKCat on May 28, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No I don't recall.

Regardless, I suggest that everyone relax. Just like with the Pitino situation it’s not helpful to speculate.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 28, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

De-Syphering Again?

Pitino starts with P (pee) for a reason.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really need to sharpen your wit. Seriously.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 28, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Louisville Sucks

And its “fans” are the worst in sports.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice effort....for you.

How old are you again?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forty, please stop with the bashing.

Your de-Syphering was funny. This comment is not in accordance with the rules, especially directed at another member.

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by Truzenzuzex on May 29, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Memphis AD: No Knowledge
Memphis athletic director R.C. Johnson said the Tigers have no reason to believe a former player — identified by sources as Derrick Rose — took a fraudulent standardized test prior to enrolling at the university.

Rose’s HS coach says he doesn’t believe Rose cheated and was smart enough to pass test.

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson

by Wild Weasel on May 29, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good find.

Interesting reading. I know we will never find out, but it might be instructive to know who is claiming to the NCAA that the test is fraudulent? Also, what happens if the forensic analysis is inconclusive?

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by Truzenzuzex on May 29, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, well if the Memphis AD denies it, it must be OK. Sorry, we'll drop it now...(signed NCAA)

Puh-lease. Memphis (and other schools) routinely have players that are borderline for academics. Coaches who are recruiting those players are very focused on evaluating the kid to see whether he will qualify on GPA and pass the standardized tests. If it is too shaky, many will walk away. Others will, apparently, find a way to get the kid into school by any means necessary.

Rose’s HS allegedly altered a grade temporarily (D to a C) so that Rose could qualify. (Source: Memphis Morning Rush, Peter Edmiston, reading excerpts/highlights from the NCAA paperwork, May 29th show – sorry no audio link available). So, i wouldn’t put too much faith in that HS coach.

Please tell me you honestly believe that Memphis, and especially Coach Cal as the one who was intimately involved in the recruiting of Rose, had no idea Rose’s test score was “unusual”.

by memphispete on May 30, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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