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Landon Slone

Seems as though there were quite a few Kentucky fans that were really upset over the whole Landon Slone "situation" - specifically that Slone apparently wanted to meet with Cal and wasnt able to and Cal's "apology" tweet sent out in reference to that.  I was just curious as to what people here thought about the whole deal. 

I, personally, was not really bothered much by the whole situation and was kind of suprised at the number of people that were really upset and the level of the complaining over this.  I wish Landon much luck and success in the future wherever he goes.

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Sloan is going to visit Morehead

And apparently, Arkansas has interest. Best of luck Landon.

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on May 27, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sloan deserves a place he can play

That place isn’t UK in the DDMO.

As a walk-on, you live at the whim of the coach. Just ask the kid Billy G kicked off the team last year. I like Landon and wish him the best, but I won’t get worked up over anything.

Cal is a busy man and can’t honestly be expected to juggle the 8 walk-ons from last year’s team.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on May 27, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I see the whole KY kid thing,

I really do. But we are talking about KY. Does everyone realize how many kids dream their whole lives of one day becoming a KY Wildcat? It would be the largest number, probably in history. Thousands from every KY county. I am glad that he was able to experience the dream he has always had. I sure he knows that dream is rarely fulfilled here in KY. I wish him the best and I know he loves to play basketball. He proved that to us…
:-)

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

largest number in history?

The mathematician in me shudders at that, but it does remind me of one of my favorite jokes: 3 > 2 except for very large values of 2.

/nerd

There is no gravity - the earth just sucks.

by JLeverenz on May 27, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any state

where dreams are higher for the most kids wanting to play at the best of the best? I can’t imagine that. :-)

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 27, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

the part that I found the most ridiculous about the whole thing was how upset people were over Cal’s misspelling of Slone’s name. (Apparently he had originally spelled it “Sloan” and then it was corrected in a later tweet.) I heard people suggest that he did that to “rub salt in the wounds” which I dont see at all. (I honestly dont think that he misspelled Forde’s name intentionally either though.)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on May 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh crap, I misspelled it too

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on May 27, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slone Hater!! ;)

LOL!

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on May 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be Careful

Coach Cal needs to be very careful of purging his team of servicable, homegrown players……………Just ask Tubby.

by russell c on May 27, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can You Name One (KY-ian) That Tubby Purged?

Surely you don’t infer that Rondo, Crawford, or Bradley should have been purged to make room for Lofton???

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would guess

that russell is referring to the smattering of talk radio callers who thought Tubby didn’t have enough KY players on the team.

There is no gravity - the earth just sucks.

by JLeverenz on May 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Never Understood That

Pitino signed Ford, Harrison, Epps, Anderson, Mills, Padgett from KY – that’s 5 in 8 years.

Tubby signed Blevins, Tackett, Estill, Carrier, Chiles, Stockton, Moss, Carter from KY – or 8 in 10 years.

Tubby had > KY players than Pitino did.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought Tubby had TOO MANY home grown players

Blevins, Tackett, Carrier, Chiles, Moss, and Carter had no business playing for the cats.

The fact that Fishback went on to play well at Auburn and Lofton at UT made it seem like he didn’t have enough.

I think people in this state are delusional (shocking I know); we want to compete nationally but recruit locally. It doesn’t work that way anymore. To compete nationally, you have to recruit nationally.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on May 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Makes More Sense

Only Estill and perhaps Moss (among KY players) were “successful” at UK.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More Important Aspect

Considering all the obligatory items on Calipari’s agenda, that he couldn’t/didn’t find a place for meeting with a walk-on is not unexpected. Another aspect of the situation is one to which I alluded earlier: the days of players whose major attribute is their Kentucky indigenousness — Stockton, Carter, Blevins, Tackett, Carrier, et al — on the scholarship roster is gratefully and hopefully over. The most important aspect of the story however is the possibility of a scholarship for Slone had Gillispie remained. Substantiating commentary on Gillispie’s misunderstanding of the program and the astonishing change in UK BB environment.

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson

by Wild Weasel on May 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong words.

O.K., purge was the wrong word to use. But if you think Tubby would not have traded five of Crawford or Bradley for Lofton, your lost.

by russell c on May 27, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In 2004, He Would NOT Have Traded Them

Both were higher rated than Lofton by a country mile.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would’t say a couontry mile between bradley and lofton.

by russell c on May 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right... it was more like a country marathon

Lofton was not highly regarded coming out of high school.

To be honest, I had seen him play and I was terrified that we would have another Josh Carrier on the team. i.e. The local kid who is supposed to be able to shoot the lights out, but never quite gets it.

I’m also convinced that playing for Pearl in his “shoot early, shoot often” offense was much better for Lofton than playing for Tubby’s much more structured system. I guarantee that he wouldn’t be the SEC leader in three point shots had he played in Blue instead of Orange.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on May 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree with you chirop

he would not have lead Sec while in blue.

and agree with forty – out of HS, i would have taken crawford and bradley by a country mile over lofton…

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember that you have

a clean cut, white, KY kid who plays guard and shoots. And yes I know it will not sit well with fans to hear that race enters into it, however, it is the truth. That type of kid will always be worshipped here.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

best thig Coach can do for ALL

of these kids is try to help them get scholarships elsewhere. That would be a nice gesture on his part, although I dont know if he would be able to do that without violating some stupid NCAA rule.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on now allblucat

Sad you had to play the race card.

by russell c on May 27, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But it's not true

Any clean cut KY kid that can shoot a basketball well enough will be worshiped regardless of race. If he has a couple bad games the fans will rip him apart regardless of race as well. You will always have a small number of fans who try to pull the race card into it, but for the majority of fans, they just want to win.

by cthom on May 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

by btcoop71 on May 27, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There may be some of that sentiment.

Thankfully, less and less every year.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on May 28, 2009 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt say that a kid

who was black, red, green or yellow wouldnt ALSO be worshipped, I just said that a white KY kid that plays guard and shoots well will always be worshipped.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 27, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My whole point is that

having some of the better kids from the state on the roster is not a bad thing. It does not they have to play 40 min. a game or play at all. It means folks from different areas get a ton pride from seeing one of their own wearing that jersey, trust me I know. It’s just an opinion. How many future pros do we need to win a title? If memory serves me right, somewhere around 8 or 9 from Rick’s and Tubby’s teams. O yeah, I think there were 5 in state kids on those teams, Derek Anderson and Anthony Epps ring a bell?

by russell c on May 27, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1996 And 1998 Teams

1996 had 9 on the roster who made the NBA (some only briefly).

1998 had 6 such (NBA) players, not 8 or 9. The talent level in 1998 was considerably <<< than 1996.

The 1996 team had 4 from KY. The 1998 team had just 2 from KY.

Your memory was enhanced by Jon Scott’s website.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1996 And 1998 Teams

First of all, FortyYearCatFan, I have no idea who Jon Scott is, and my memory needs to be enhanced, as it is mostly foggy. I can see your mind works only in stats and ESPN type numbers. I’m talking tradition and pride, thats it. I’m sure you can rattle of numbers faster than Obama read read from his tele-promter, but I’m talking Big Blue Pride. By the way you made my point better for me, notice I said TEAMS in the 90’s. Give those year books a rest Big Guy.

by russell c on May 27, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams In The 1990's > KY Players And NBA Players

1990 = 6 from KY – 1 NBA player.

1991 = 7 KY – 2 NBA.

1992 = 5 KY – 1 NBA.

1993 = 2 KY – 4 NBA.

1994 = 3 KY – 5 NBA.

1995 = 4 KY – 7 NBA.

1996 = 3 KY – 9 NBA.

1997 = 4 KY – 6 NBA.

1998 = 2 KY – 6 NBA.

1999 = 3 KY – 5 NBA.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude you win, I give.

by russell c on May 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr Basketball

I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that we are going to have the last two Mr Basketballs in KY on the roster next year in Hood and Miller.

by cthom on May 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Had That In 2003-04-05 Also

Carrier and Stockton were both Mr Basketball in KY.

Those teams were 87-15 (85%) for #1 record in Div I basketball.

Good omen?

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

regardless of the omen I sure hope Hood and Miller turn out better than Stockton and Carrier.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on May 27, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing...

this post wasn’t about Landon Slone being released from UK.Oh wait it was,and since Tubby ,Pitino,Rupp,or B.G. and whoever else coach here isn’t the one looking for a new home this week.And frankly who cares if 98 or 96 was better,we have the banners hanging in our house so it just proves that WE were better than everyone else.Back to the subject I think Landon could’ve played in this system off the bench he can shoot and shoot it well.I hate to see him go and if he does go to Arkansas I do believe you will hear his name again.Slone for 3!!!! Hope it doesn’t hurt when we do hear it,all I’m saying.

by yearofthecat on May 30, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From 1998 Through 2009 (Per RSCI Stats) HS Players From KY

Link www.rscihoops.com here.

From 98 thru 09, KY has produced exactly (11) Top 100 rated HS players in 12 years. But IN has produced (37) Top 100 players.

KY produced (5) Top 50 players. IN produced (16) Top 50 players.

KY produced ZERO Top 10 players. IN produced (6) Top 10 players.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 30, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Demographics Tell The Story

Indiana has 1.5 times the population of Kentucky.
Indiana is considerably ( nearly 70%) more urban than Kentucky and basketball is primarily an urban sport.
Indiana’s ethnic demography is conducive to producing more basketball athletes.

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson

by Wild Weasel on May 31, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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