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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- News for Kentucky Wildcat Fans, May 26th 2009

I want to talk today about this excellent article by John Adams at GoVolsXtra.  Adams writes about the fact that Bruce Pearl has scheduled tough out-of-conference games every single year he has been at Tennessee, and that he is showing leadership in that area.

Now, most of you who read me know that I am not a fan of Bruce Pearl, but I think Adams has this exactly right.  When I think back at the OOC schedule for the last two years, and how they compare to what we used to play most years under Tubby Smith, I feel a tiny pang of shame.  Yes, I supported Gillispie, for the most part, when he weakened the pre-conference schedule the last two years.  But I expected that to get better, and up until the day he was dismissed, I saw no signs that it would.  In my opinion, it was pretty clear that Gillispie was not a proponent of a particularly strong pre-conference schedule, and was never going to be.  That's a way to go, but I never agreed that it was the best way.

But Bruce Pearl has never wavered.  He has always played a tough non-conference slate every year at Tennessee, and for that, he is to be commended.  I am absolutely sure that UK will never have a weak non-conference schedule under Coach Calipari, and I am very glad for that fact.  Yes, we may take a beating or two until Calipari's system takes hold, but I think it will be worth it in the end.  Plus, I know that very soon, UK will be giving out the beatings rather than receiving them.

I think we have seen by Coach Gillispie's scheduling (and that of Billy Donovan at Florida as well) that if you want to hedge your bets to get into the tournament, you have to schedule tough in the pre-conference schedule.  Pearl, despite getting drubbed by Kentucky and others, still got in the Big Dance while UK and Florida got to play in that other tournament.  Lesson learned?  I hope so.

So kudos to Coach Pearl for leading the way on this.  Calipari won't have to learn this lesson, as he has had this philosophy for years, and now perhaps Donovan will finally get it.  That would be good for the SEC, and Bruce Pearl deserves credit for leading the way.

And now, for the news:

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UK Basketball News

  • Carter, Williams and A.J. Stewart will not be back on the Wildcat team next year.  One or two more players will have to transfer, depending on what Meeks does.
  • The Playmakers blog is hearing Jodie Meeks may be staying in the draft.
  • Jody Demling has a long, detailed recruiting update.
  • Jody Demling also has a piece on Calipari's recruiting haul.
  • Wildcats Thunder has an interview with Bill Keightley.
  • Calipari and Donovan are friends, and that friendship could be tested when UK and Florida clash.
  • "Folks, John Calipari runs a system that not only teaches players how to play (rather than what to play), but it is probably the single-best transitional system between high school and the pros that exists in the US." -- Canis Hoopus.
  • Would Calipari's class at Memphis have been as good as the one he wound up with at UK (if he had stayed)?  The Northstar Basketball Blog examines that question.
  • "The one non-hoops meeting Horn said he would love to be in is the football gathering, as commissioner Mike Slive will likely tell the coaches to chill on cutting each other down. The basketball coaches don't have that issue, although getting Kentucky's John Calipari and Tennessee's Bruce Pearl in the same room Tuesday and Wednesday should be good entertainment. They had a testy rivalry when Calipari was at Memphis, and both have strong, extroverted personalities. There may not be time for any of the other 10 coaches to talk." -- Andy Katz

UK Football News

  • Kentucky brings back an experienced group of offensive linemen.  Only Georgia's O-line has more experience.
  • The Capstone Report ranks UK ahead of Tennessee this year in football.

Other UK Sports News

NCAA Sports News

  • Kiffin and Saban on trash talk.
  • If Florida State has to forfeit 14 wins, Bobby Bowden's hopes of catching Joe Paterno would go up in smoke.
  • The SEC spring meeting is coming up, and it will be an interesting clash of egos.  I wonder if Urban Meyer or any of the other coaches Lane Kiffin has offended will take a shot back?  Sounds like a good soap opera to me.
  • Who do you think is the best inside-out duo in college basketball.  Rivals tries to answer that question.

Other News of Interest

  • The sad, sad story of a young man who threw away his rare opportunities, and now regrets it.  The problem is, they may be gone forever.  Via Jody Demling.

 

 

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UUGH

I wanted to throw up after reading this becuase I actually agreed with the orange ugly one Bruce Pearl.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on May 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

It's tough.

I actually threw up a little in my mouth while I was writing it. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on May 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the links, Tru.....

BUT, I absolutely, positively refuse to agree on the orange ugly one, ever…………UUGH !! Is right…
I believe that man is the only thing that would cause me to stop watching UK play… I would just have to listen to all games….(Hopefully, that small bashing won’t get me banned)…..Please don’t??
:-)

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is one thing we won't have to duck away from with other fan bases at least

It was tough to call out Florida’s cream puff schedule when we were just as bad.

That said… can you imagine how bad our record the last two years would be with a tougher schedule?!!!?

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on May 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, I can.

No, I don’t want to, and you can’t make me. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on May 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Pearl still

wore that coat and chains and rapped!!!!……and painted himself…..and took off his shirt on several occasions……cant we punish him for that if we are going to praise him for his scheduling???

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 26, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I think ...

… we did punish him for that, didn’t we? :-)

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by Glenn Logan on May 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Enough!!!

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read through some of the comments on that page......

Once person said “BTW, is Kentucky really going catapult themselves from NIT mediocrity to title contenders just because of 2 players?” uuhhhhhh, try 6 players there Tonto, and yes they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by UKfan79 on May 26, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Fret not; Pearl isn't all right

“We’ve had eight new coaches (since Pearl has been at UT),” [Pearl] said. “We’ve had seven firings, and Tubby (Smith at Kentucky) was encouraged to leave.”

by GoLightning on May 26, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I've...

always believed that he was encouraged to leave. He may have left by his own choice, but I think that it is ignorant to think that he had no encouragement.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.

by the spork on May 26, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

He loves it there. Great AD, great University President, great city, great everything.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll likely agree with the AD portion

but I’d take Todd, Lexington and “everything” at UK over Minnesota

by hoboat33 on May 28, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

or Tubby

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on May 28, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Tubby won NCAA title, 5 SEC titles, 5 SECT championships at UK.

No comparison to Sutton or Gillispie. That’s ABSURD comment.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 30, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's Compare

Sutton won 69% of his UK games, 62% of his NCAA games, 1 SEC title, 2 SECT championships, and left UK on NCAA probation.

Gillispie won 59% of his UK games, 0% of his NCAA games, 0 SEC titles, 0 SECT championships, and was fired by UK (thankfully so).

Tubby’s numbers are below. They don’t with either of these two.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since you're so close to Tubby

it’s very enlightening that he thinks mitch, Dr. Todd, Lexington and everything are inferior to their counterparts in Minnesota.

by hoboat33 on May 28, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I Do

Maturi >>>>>>> Barnhart.

Bruininks >>> Todd.

Twin Cities >>> Lexington.

No comparison on any of the three.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 30, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

We weren't talking about your likes/dislikes

we were discussing Tubby’s and why he left UK. You said he left for better opportunity at Minnesota and listed the AD, President, town and everything as being the reasons. Ergo, he thinks the AD, President, town and “everything” are inferior at UK.

by hoboat33 on May 30, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

All Of Those Reasons

Twin Cities have numerous advantages over a relatively small town such as Lexington.

The President and AD at Minnesota are better also. Tubby has been publicly quoted as saying that on more than once.

UK has a superior basketball tradition to Minnesota but the Gophers have everything else going for their circumstances.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 31, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's such BS

It’s like arguing with a fencepost

by hoboat33 on May 31, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I promise you Tubby Smith never said...

“The president and AD here at Minnesota are much better than those assclowns at Kentucky.”

Or anything remotely resembling that. I will agree that Minnesota is a much better fit for him, but to say that Tubby would say something that blatant is patently absurd.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jun 1, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Never Used Any Words Like Those

And Tubby has been publicly quoting about the AD and President at Minnesota. Google a bit and you’ll find the quotes.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 1, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The President and AD at Minnesota are better also. Tubby has been publicly quoted as saying that on more than once.

I googled “Tubby Smith Minnesota AD” and never once found a quote where he said “The AD here is much better than the last one I worked for.” Please provide a link to your source. My Google-Fu is weak today.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jun 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Have Seen (and) Read Them

The Minnesota AD is a former basketball coach who understands the sport. He and Tubby are neighbors in Twin Cities. They go out to eat together (with their wives) often.

Do you think any of that applies to Mitch or Larry Ivy?

Keep Googling.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 1, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is

A class act like Tubby will never come out and say that “This AD is better than that AD.”

I agree that its a better situation for him all around. His personality fits there much better than it ever did in Lexington.

As we just saw with our most recent coach, the right personality is a very important part of our job. I don’t think we ever really knew how much until the last few months.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jun 1, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, chirop for joining me on this

As you know, forty presents himself to be an expert on “all things Tubby” and has maintained that feelings of the fan, administration, and press had no bearing on his decision. This latest thread when asked “Why did he make that choice (leave UK)?” the replies “Better opportunity” and the list above was given I was stunned that his reasons had to do with the inferior AD, President, town, et al. I always liked Tubby and thought of him as a true southern gentleman, but this revelation that he would denegrate the above is just amazing.

by hoboat33 on Jun 1, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed Minnesota Is A Better Opportunity

Just like Louisville is a better opportunity for Pitino.

Tubby’s own words (quoted many times in articles the past 3 years) confirms that fans, press, or UK administration had nothing to do with his decision to go to Minnesota.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 1, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Praised Both The AD And President At Minnesota

He said the situation (involving them) is better for him.

He did not direcytly criticize Barnhart or Todd.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 1, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Todd

Whoever is Pres at Minny has to be better than Todd.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on May 28, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Baloney

People change jobs all the time.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lo! The Crusade Continues
It is a characteristic of all movements and crusades that the psychopathic element rises to the top

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson

by Wild Weasel on May 27, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some evidence that somewhat contradicts

I agree with playing a tougher schedule.But you are not rewarded for playing it,rather winning games.

2006
UF-Overall SOS-50
       Nonconfernce-196
NCAA- 3 seed

UK- Overall SOS-9
        Nonconference-54
NCAA- 8 seed

2007
UF-Overall SOS- 45
       Nonconference- 145
NCAA – 1 seed

UK- Overall SOS- 1
         Nonconference-9
NCAA- 8 seed

I agree if UK had played a tougher schedule this season it may have helped them get into the NCAAT.But comparing those 2 years above,SOS seemed to play little in the rewarding of seeds.UF nonconference is an absolute joke,yet it did not hurt them getting a high seed.

by -Zoso- on May 26, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN

Tougher schedules do increase coverage. Big games with big teams are a sure fire draw. Remember also that the SEC signed with ESPN to increase coverage in 2009-2010.
http://tinyurl.com/qzxkem

What nice timing for us not in Ky to see more of the team…and have better national coverage. If KY does achieve as expected I would think our share of the media is going to be great….

Even football will be improved. If the ESPN folks carry more SEC games will the focus on SEC teams add to the coverage? Will the Herbstreet etc folks be more kind? Remember 3 of the last five teams to win the BCS have been from the SEC.

Pat Summitt has a history for playing all comers in off season games. She has just stopped the home/home with UConn but that game alone helped the Lady Vols in all pols…that along with their play of course. She took on the biggest named coaches as well .so her teams played Maryland, Rutgers, NCState Texas Duke teams…all champions. Years ago she was quick to schedule LaTech when they were the best. . These games were more than practice and winning against the best certainly added to the confidence of her teams.

I would love to see a few big wins in December to set the stage for storming through the SEC.

by CAWebb on May 26, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Bruce Pearl

His name isn’t allowed to be uttered in my household. He is simply called “the doofus in the ugly orange jacket.” But seriously,sure,give him credit for scheduling (big deal),he is VERY over rated as a coach. Coach Cal will continue to help prove that in the coming years.

by maysvilleblue on May 26, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

ohhhhh Brucie

Im coming for you, you said when you arrive at tenn that you wanted to defeat uk and would only wear that ugly jacket at vandy and uk games, well that jacket has gotten a losing record and now with uk owning the recruits your nitemare just got extended..look forward to more sweeps and please just wear a regular suit because u look like a flintstone pushpop ice cream on the side lines

by Coach cal on May 26, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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