The Big Blue Daily Mail -- News for Kentucky Wildcat fans, May 24th 2009
Sometimes, NCAA rules can look incredibly cruel and arbitrary. This is one of those times. Jeremy Jarmon being ruled ineligible for unknowingly taking a substance banned by the NCAA comes as a shock to the Big Blue Nation, and is a serious blow to Kentucky's football team for the 2009 season.
By now, you have all heard the story, but if you haven't here it is again. Jarmon began taking a new nutritional supplement in February in an effort to drop some weight, and didn't clear it with the UK Athletics office. Jarmon says he just forgot to tell the staff about the new supplement until it was too late. Just four days after they advised him to stop taking it, he was selected for a random drug test and the test came back positive.
Kentucky went through the appeals process with the NCAA, but the appeal was denied. In the final analysis, the NCAA's stance on this issue is that Jarmon had ample education about the dangers of taking products without first clearing them with the school's nutritional staff, and Jeremy disregarded or forgot the training he had repeatedly received from the school on the problems with taking unapproved, over-the-counter substances. The appeals process is anonymous, which means that the NCAA body passing judgment does not know who the student athlete in question is in an attempt to remove any possibility of subjectivity.
My opinion on this affair is as follows:
I really feel for Jeremy Jarmon, and I know all of us have done similar things before -- we started doing something that we should have known better than to do, but for some reason, we forgot about the rules. It happens to all of us, so it is impossible for anyone to rationally condemn Jarmon for what he did. Yes, he should have known better, but somehow he didn't, at least not in time to forestall the consequences. Kudos to Jeremy for standing up and taking the blame, because the blame clearly belongs with him, even if the error seems like one we make every day.
Many will think that getting banned from NCAA participation for a year is unduly harsh punishment, and I agree. In an effort to remove the subjectivity from the process, the NCAA has essentially decided that college sports has no room for the fallibility of human memory when it comes to amateur athletics, and will brook no excuses or mitigating circumstances. Eric Crawford has a very good editorial on just that subject this morning.
Mitch Barnhart points out that this decision was based on NCAA precedent, and he does not disagree with the decision when constrained in that way. The question is not if the punishment was fairly and objectively decided -- it clearly was. The question is why, in an area of reality where the imperfection of youthful decisions are acknowledged and often the basis for leniency, have we removed instances like this to an impersonal, anonymous process?
Can you imagine if our judicial system were that way, and every person had to testify via a transcript in an anonymous proceeding? We may as well let a computer, or even a monkey, make these kind of decisions. The only problem is that they affect, often dramatically, the lives of young men and women who have been guilty only of a careless error. Careless errors are very serious when people's lives are at stake, but I think nobody would argue that the fairness of college football would have been compromised if Jarmon's punishment would have been less harsh. But the NCAA has taken the position, when it comes to drugs, to "ban 'em all and let God sort them out."
Neither Jarmon nor Barnhart nor anyone in the UK Athletics Department has gone on record as saying this is all unfair. From an objective standpoint, it isn't unfair at all. Nobody would dispute that performance-enhancing drugs are a problem when it comes to intercollegiate athletics, or that the NCAA should take the laissez faire approach that professional athletics has taken up until recently. Nobody is arguing that there shouldn't be punishment, especially for repeat offenders.
But from a subjective standpoint, it seems like a major dehumanization of NCAA sports, of converting people to a number or letter. Sorry, player X, you are banned, buddy. We don't care about your pathetic sob story. Don't waste our time explaining your mistake, you are guilty, guilty, guilty because precedent says so, and nothing else is going to be considered. You deserve to be lumped into the same category as Manny Ramirez and Barry Bonds. Enjoy your new fame as a performance-enhancing drug abuser. And for the rest of you, let this be a lesson.
Oh, yeah -- don't drink the water.
And now, for the news:
UK Basketball News
- Morehead will be the first game for the Wildcats next year. This team was a lot of fun to watch in the NCAA's, and Coach Tyndall's daughter reminded me so much of Coach Bill Yoast's daughter in Remember the Titans. I can't wait.
- John Wall may be the insurance policy UK needed to keep North Carolina at bay on the way to 2000 wins. The irony that he comes from the Carolina Triangle is not lost on me.
- Great, short video. Recommended.
- Has John Calipari actually made himself bigger than the UK coaching job? As much press as he has received, I think you could argue that he has, at least for the moment. It took Rick Pitino years to achieve this level of attention.
- Jay Bilias thinks the Kansas Jayhawks' advantage in experience give them the edge over UK next year. I think he is exactly right.
- Bluegrass State Basketball evaluates the likely roster next year, and how they will fit in.
- Storming the Floor interviews Dana O'Neil of ESPN. She is not completely on the UK bandwagon, either, for primarily the same reason as Jay Bilas.
- Ge'Lawn Guyn has not heard from UK. My bet is that he won't.
- Coach Cal to speak at the Pike County Chamber of Commerce. I'm betting Billy Gillispie wasn't interested.
- WKYT reports that A.J. Stewart is headed elsewhere. This story is unconfirmed by UK.
- The New York Daily News says that Calipari is trying to manage expectations, but "this has all the makings of a runaway train."
- It's unusual for the North Carolina schools to lose one to Kentucky. But not unprecedented.
UK Football News
- Craig Yeast and Tim Couch will be giving back to Kentucky by holding football camps in the Bluegrass. That's great news for two of Kentucky's most memorable players ever.
Other UK Sports News
- Bruno Agostinelli bows out of the NCAA Singles Tennis Tournament in the quarterfinals to an Ohio State player.
NCAA Sports News
- Some pros and cons of early commitments to colleges. I find it very interesting that Michael Avery's dad argues it as a benefit, and gives some compelling reasons why.
- The Memphis Commercial-Appeal says that Memphis basketball is still selling tickets in spite of Calipari leaving town.
- Zagsblog is reporting that even though Nick Calathes has left Florida for Greece, the Gators are now in hot pursuit of Lance Stephenson. I wonder if the media will begin cruicfying Donovan for recruiting an athlete with a shady reputation. I'm betting no, Billy D. is still the "do no wrong" fair-haired boy, but he's now the second best coach in the SEC. That has to sting a little.
Other News of Interest
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Donovan "second best coach in the SEC."
I’d put him behind Cal, Stansbury, Stallings, Trent Johnson, and tied with Pearl.
But hey, that’s just me:)
by Ken Howlett on May 24, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
You and maybe nobody else. :-)
Remind me – how many NCAA championships have those other guys you mentioned got? How many final fours? None? Hmm. :-)
Oh, and NIT final fours don’t count. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on May 24, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Yeah, I'm probably flying solo on this one ...
… I think Donovan is a fine coach, but other than the two great years he’s had, his teams have been undisciplined and pretty poor defenders. I really do think he caught lightening in a bottle.
By far his biggest attribute is his recruiting, which is a big part of coaching, but I’m not overly impressed with the other aspects of his job performance.
Actually, after watching Darrin Horn’s WKU teams over the last several years, I would say he and Horn are very similar. They have the same strengths and weaknesses.
One of my favorite Al McGuire sayings — “You don’t have to be a great coach to win the NCAA Tournament, but all the great ones have won it.”
To me Donovan is in the Gary Williams, Jim Harrick, Bill Frieder/Steve Fisher, Jud Heathcoate group: Good coaches, but not great.
But he does have two rings. Something no one can ever take away from him.
by Ken Howlett on May 25, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lighting in a bottle ...
… maybe. Still, he has been arguably more successful than most anyone else in spite of having, as you say, undisciplined teams that are pretty poor defenders. Bruce Pearl may be the only other coach who can make a strong claim, despite his own problems with discipline and defense.
But I’d have to agree that Donovan’s star has taken on a bit of tarnish the last couple of seasons.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 25, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donovan And Calipari Are 2 Best
Billy D has 3 FF and 2 NC in 14 years.
Cal has 2 FF but 0 NC in 17 years.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 25, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction, 15 Years For Donovan
2 years at Marshall, 13 years at Florida.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Hood
For those concerned with Hood’s athleticism — He won the state high jump championship this weekend.
by Ken Howlett on May 24, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hood's game ...
… reminds me of Darius Miller. He is not an unathletic, three-point shooter. He is more of a slasher with a decent jump shot.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 24, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%
I hadn’t really thought of the Miller/Hood comparison, but it’s right on.
by Ken Howlett on May 25, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Quod Ut
Re: Jeremy Jarmon, I’m a bit — quite, actually — conflicted. On the one hand I’m tempted to quote the advice given frequently by defense attorneys: If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Mr. Jarmon — I find the term, kid, even with the appellation good, inappropriate and inaccurate as a description for a 22-year old — certainly had been made aware of what substances were banned and what the penalty was using them. That he was careless is hardly an excuse, plus I find the statement that he had intended to tell the staff but forgot just a tad too convenient. Eric Crawford’s accurate reference to Jarmon as “a thoughtful, intelligent, articulate person” seems to somehow excuse his indiscretion when, in fact, it only adds to Jarmon’s incaution. Having said all that I must admit that my own throat constricted while watching Jarmon’s obvious heartfelt contrition and I certainly admire his standup forthrightness. His past achievements would indicate that he’ll learn, persevere and progress, I certainly hope so.
The fact that Ge’Lawn Guyn hasn’t heard from UK isn’t surprising — I agree that he isn’t likely to — raises an interesting question: With Calipari’s ability to recruit the best of the best how likely is it that there will be Kentucky products on future scholarship rosters (think Dakota Euton, Vinnie Zollo, etc.)?
In the trade of Jeff Mullins and Vince Taylor for Jason Parker and Bobby Perry the Tar Heel state certainly came out the winner.
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson
by Wild Weasel on May 24, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can only respond ...
… that my considered opinion is that he legitimately forgot. Why would he later tell them, unsolicited? A cheater would never do that.
There is no excuse, of course, and he wasn’t treated unfairly — what’s fair for one is fair for all. My complaint is that the NCAA’s process on this is too harsh to begin with. When people who are not trying to cheat wind up lumped in with cheaters, I think there is a problem, particularly with a process that doesn’t take circumstances into account. But Jarmon has no real complaint coming. He did what he did, and that, as they say, is that.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 24, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd Say Mullins Came Out A Winner
He mad it to FF at Duke.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 25, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JJ showed the NCAA
and others, he is a great person, no matter what you feel is fair. You cannot take that from him. He is a KY Wildcat. I was so sad, but so proud. The guy has CLASS and it shows. UKAA did not make him do this, he wanted to. He asked to speak.
I think the NCAA does the blanketing “fairness” to make it plain and simple for them. Period. That way it does not make room for them to be called unfair, in their view.. But it does need to be changed, reworded, or something. There actually are cases of “nothing really” and/or misinformation. Really, Vitaminwater??
The NCAA is trying to justify in their own terms, anything to keep them away any blame or fault, solely for that purpose alone. IMO… But in the end, they will still be blamed. So their theory is not working so well. Maybe that will cause them to change their policies. Surely they see that.
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by a2d2 on May 24, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Flight plan from
Nicholasvile to Houston. I had not heard the story of the air-traffic controller as the plane approached a landing in Memphis.
To avoid media detection, Corman set a flight plan for a trip from Nicholasville to Houston. As the plane began a descent into Memphis, an FAA controller radioed the pilot: “Please don’t take our coach.”
I think he must have seen “The Door, Live.”…lol…He realized, Kentucky may have just won that one.
:-)
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by a2d2 on May 24, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JJ
I was absolutely sick and in tears when I heard the presser yesterday. Yes I know the NCAA has their rules on these over the counter supplements, but why haven’t these companies that produce them been made to put a warning on the bottle re possible NCAA infractions? I was shocked when I heard a dietary supplement that can be bought anywhere.
Jeremy will always be loved by the BBN and his mentors at UK. He was just that type of student/athlete who gave his all to the program. He will always be a Wildcat and I know we all love him for his years at UK.
As Mitch B. and Jeremy both said….He will be back to UK and continue to do the things he did for the program. Brooks and staff love this guy. He will not disappear.
by kykat51 on May 24, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gingko Bilboa Warning
This is another over the counter supplement that I started taking in 2000 for memory retention and I have to admit it helped me in my turning 50’s forward. There was no warning about stomach bleeding at the time, but since then it is on the Internet. I did not know until Jan 2004 the effects of this supplement and heard it from my doctor when I had the same. It can be very dangerous especially to people who love their Ky bourbons.
by kykat51 on May 24, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Supplements
Nutritional supplements and vitamins are not regulated by the FDA. You have to be careful taking the word of a “knowledgeable” sales person. The supplements don’t have to go through the same testing procedures that FDA approved drugs do so there may be side effects that they are not aware of. Same thing goes for athletes. They all go through the educational programs about these things. It really sucks for JJ, but he was taking something containing a banned substance. For a Pro Cyclist the same thing would be an automatic two year suspension for a first time offense. For Baseball they get maybe a two week suspension if that much.
by cthom on May 24, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"banned substances"
Personally I think think this whole " performance enhancing drug" mess has gotten way out of hand. That your college career can end because you went down to “for example only” GNC and bought a dietary supplement over the counter. With the way the NCAA handled this the kid probably would have gotten the same penalty if he was injecting anabolic steroids or hgh into his ass. And I would be willing to make a bet that the nat’l media portrays it that way. The era of “PED’S” in all sports has turned into one big ass witch hunt.
by rlucas1356 on May 24, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the idea of all PED policies is player accountability.
I’m upset about Jarmon too, but players have every opportunity to familiarize themselves with what is legal and what is not.
by mrmondaynite on May 24, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what do you mean by witch hunt?
It’s not as if it’s difficult to pass one of these drug tests.
Perhaps some of the procedures involved seem unfair or arbitrary in specific situations (i.e. Jarmon); but for every Jarmon, there is a clear black/white suspension that is warranted.
by mrmondaynite on May 24, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jarmon
Heartbroken. Not that you’d want to see any such thing happen to anybody else, but to see this happen to Jarmon hurt. But I hurt most FOR him. Bad things happen to good people. It rains on the just and the unjust alike. What matters most is overcoming trials and hardships. When we come through on the other side of our tests. I told our congregation just last week, that every single person with no exception experiences hard times. If we look hard enough, we’ll discover that we wouldn’t want to trade places with too many people. Found out today that one of the Navy’s newest battleships, the U.S.S. New York, was made with about 24 tons of melted down scrap metal from the twin towers!!!!! The ships official motto is “never forget”. They melted it down and started pouring it on Sept. 9th, 2001. Been building on it ever since. To which I say “amen”. Jarmon can and will rebuild. He has the "metal.
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....
by blubloodcatfan on May 24, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not A Battleship
Correct the USS New York is built partially with steel from Trade Towers but it isn’t a battleship rather it’s a San Antonio-class LPD amphibious transport dock that will transport 700 Marines and all their equipment. Commissioning date 11/9/2009. Part of DOD’s move toward fast-response conventional warfare. I do like your analogy of turning tragedy to opportunity.
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson
by Wild Weasel on May 25, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
We quit making battleships a long time ago. But we still make warships. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on May 25, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction request accepted
Thanks WW, I knew that, don’t know why I said that. Pastor shared that yesterday about it being an amphibious transport dock. Pastor is active duty military, and he had all the stats on it. The number of the crew and all as well. I didn’t have my notes in front of me then or now. My wife took off with them. It’s all the woman’s fault!!!! She went to some parade while I have to mow??? 24 tons of metel wouldn’t make a ship this size from what John said. It was just a bittersweet touch to it all that they took the remains of the World Trade Center towers and made a warship with it. God bless our boys in uniform and Jeremy Jarmon.
Food for thought: The virgin birth has much more to do with the absense of a natural earthly father then the use of a virgin mother. Now, chew.....
by blubloodcatfan on May 25, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jarmon
I too am sort of torn on this situation. The one question on my mind is that would so many UK fans be so forgiving if the exact situation happened to a Tennesse or Florida player. My first thought is Hell NO!
Let me start out by saying that I truly could care less if athletes use steroids. I know that is an unpopular opinion but that’s how I feel. When I watch sports I hope my team wins, the game is entertaining and dramatic, the athletes play to their best abilities and they lay it all on the line. If someone in that game is using steroids, then so be it. However I do understand it is against the rules and in some cases the law. Not to mention that the abuse of PED’s can be detrimental to their health. But hey its their bodies.
With that being said Jarmon seemed very contrite and was man enough to face the cameras and apologize. For that I applaud him. One thing that struck me as odd though is that he refused to mention what he took. It seems to me that if this was an honest mistake, he would just say what he took to clear up any confusion. Also by mentioning what he took, it would let other players and kids know that that specific supplement is banned and they should avoid taking it at all costs. We live in cynical society when it comes to our athletes and whether or not to believe they are telling truth. I can only go on what Jarmon says happened. Whether or not he is being completely honest is unknown but he seems to have the type of character that we tend to believe his story. I just wonder if UK fans would be so forgiving if this happened to a player at another school? Especially one that we hate?
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on May 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he had planned on naming the substance...
maybe. I thought Mitch said that UKAA advised against it. Maybe it was “branded” and they were foreseeing any possible litigation’s? I don’t know. Just guessing. I am sure the UK trainers are aware of it. From what was said, it probably is on “the list”…..lol
But I am not really sure if I would feel any different if it were another player at a rival school, or any school for that matter. I think it is one of those, could have, should have, maybe’s. The NCAA may have drawn a line at any reconsideration, of any kind. So they can’t be faulted if the appeal is not accepted. MB said the appeal had total animosity. They may see that as total fairness, if they always deny all appeals. IMO :-)
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by a2d2 on May 25, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surely Not
Are you suggesting fans are hypocritical? Surely not (they are, almost by definition). Next thing you know, Seven Rings, you’ll be contending that college sports is all about the money.
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." --Thomas Jefferson
by Wild Weasel on May 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Yes, there could be a partisan or two among us.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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