The Big Blue Daily Mail -- News for Kentucky Wildcat fans, May 11th 2009
by Truzenzuzex on May 11, 2009 9:36 AM EDT
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As you can see, I have renamed the daily news, links and commentary post into something that is both more appropriate and more search-engine friendly. One thing about writing a blog is that it is easy to get lost in the forest, and lose sight of the primary focus, which is obviously to reach out to and bring in new readers. We tend to focus a lot on servicing our existing members, but in that process, we sometimes forget to do the little things like writing headlines that Wildcat fans would recognize as related to their favorite team. Ah, the Internet. So unlike the Jurassic media of newspapers.
Today, I want to talk a bit about a former UK player who has shown himself to be one of the most determined and unrelenting individuals ever to wear the Blue and White. In his four years at UK, he never failed to make a positive impact on the basketball team, and never let excuses like a lack of size at his position, a lack of offensive skill, or any other physical disadvantage he may have had make a difference. He always used his skill to its fullest, and took advantage of the unfailing tendencies of gifted players to underestimate what he could and could not do. For four years, Chuck Hayes led UK to one of its finest stretches of basketball glory in memory.
I never believed Chuck Hayes would see one minute as an NBA player. I was, like so many of his victims, convinced that his physical limitations meant more, at that level, the the outsized "Valentine" (as Bill Raftery so famously puts it) in his chest. I was so incredibly wrong, and I hope Chuck gets as many "nya, nyas" as he wants at the expense of my lack of faith in him.
Yesterday, Chuck once again proved why he is one of the best defensive players in the NBA, and how you can parlay a big heart and a keen basketball brain into victories for your team. There are just a few players in the Association who make such an amazing impact on a game without impacting the stat sheet -- Shane Battier is famously and most prominently among them. But Chuck Hayes deserves a place right beside his teammate, and showed the world last night just exactly why with a sparkling, dominating defensive performance that helped lead the Rockets to a shocking, almost embarrassing 99-87 win over Los Angeles after just having lost their superstar center Yao Ming for the rest of the season with a cracked bone in his foot. Don't let the margin fool you -- this game was a blowout.
I had the distinct honor and privilege of seeing Chuck Hayes' Senior Day live and in person, and the sight of him weeping to My Old Kentucky Home is a memory that will remain near the forefront of my mind until I am called home to my reward. Chuck Hayes is the embodiment of UK basketball -- the team first, never-say-die, the-name-on-the-front-means-most amalgamation of the spirit, pride and determination of a Kentucky Wildcat. He did us proud while he was here, and he continues to do us proud in Houston. Attaboy, Chuck -- this one is for you.
UK Basketball News
- Matt Jones reports that Patrick Patterson and John Calipari will be holding a press conference on Monday to discuss Patterson's return to the Wildcats.
- John Calipari again compared to Alabama's Nick Saban. I have often said that Alabama football fans are the only truly kindred spirits to UK fans in the SEC.
- This blogger thinks UK will be ranked #1 in the pre-season. Hmm, I'm thinking Kansas might have a thing or two to say about that.
- Heh. Well, I suppose this could be considered a fringe benefit.
- Wall impressed by Miami trip. The author thinks that Miami really has a chance at Wall.
UK Football News
- Another article bemoaning the lack of minority head coaches in college football. Joker Phillips gets a mention.
Other UK Sports News
- UK softball earns their first bid to the NCAA tournament. Coach Calipari was in attendance at the team's selection show gathering.
- Bat Cats needed to sweep Auburn, but they dropped the last game despite hitting the ball well. Now, they are faced with needing a sweep over the Gators and some help by Vanderbilt.
NCAA Sports News
- The Lance Stephenson saga continues.
- Is the ACC catching up to the SEC in football? Well, by the author's measure you would think so, but I don't think many SEC fans would agree. The whole, "why does [the ACC] fail to compete for national championships?" would seem to be relevant.
- Should Mike Slive muzzle SEC coaches? Maybe Lane Kiffin ...
- More congressional complaints over the BCS, now from the Senate, on the heels of other semi-wacko Congresspeople. Good grief, guys, is there nothing more important to do on the national agenda?
- Lane Kiffin -- college football's biggest dunce? I know this -- he has made the SEC a very interesting place so far, and he hasn't coached a single game.
Other News of Interest
- Happy Mother's Day -- Not. Yeah, I know this didn't happen on Mother's Day, but it was close enough for me.
- West Virginia high school basketball is missing Patrick Patterson and O.J. Mayo.
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Chuck Hayes
I tried to name my son Charles Hayes. The wife wouldnt go for it.
Chuck and Tay are my all time favorite CATS.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 11, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Hayes
There could never be enough accolades we could heap on that fella!!!…Chuck is prob my all time fave…love him and what he gave/brought to us!!!
KYCatwoman
by KYCatwoman on May 11, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck is definitely in my top 5 UK players in my lifetime as well....
Others being
Tayshaun Prince
Travis Ford
Jamal Mashburn
Heshimu Evans
… but do you remember Mr. Hayes shooting Free Throws like this at kentucky?…
I need a Sea of Blue because I am surrounded by Tennessee orange!
by sleepytimetea on May 11, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL great find,
Funny, even to the players. But twice? I wonder what was up with that?
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He never shot like that!
I missed the game. But glad you posted link!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can tell by your list
that there is a big difference in our ages. My fave list starts with
Cotton Nash
Dan Issel
Pat Riley
and the list goes on and on!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My top 5
Tayshaun Prince
Jeff Shepperd
Wayne Turner
Travis Ford
Jamaal Magloire
Envy our past......Fear our future
by btcoop71 on May 11, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Favorites
(In no particular order)
Chuck Hayes
Keith Bogans
Tayshaun Prince
Rajon Rondo
Patrick Patterson
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i, too, am of a different generation....
macy, robey, givens and lee…..would start the list
to finish it i would go either late 80’s early 90’s - mashburn
or late 1990’s – mercer and delk…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Delk is high on my list too
Maybe him instead of Magloire
Envy our past......Fear our future
by btcoop71 on May 11, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
patrick patterson
how could i forget him – but he is still here so i will figure out who to bump off my list next year – s
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe A Little Older
but how can you not include Dan Issel. Especially if you ever saw him play. But like I said maybe I’m a little older.
by Bluegilla on May 11, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
May as well weigh in here too
1. Mashburn
2. Patterson
3. Sheppard
4. The Unforgettables (yes, I rank them as a group. This is my list, and I’ll do it how I want to! LOL)
5. Mohammed
And since everyone has mentioned their generation, my earliest Cat memories date back to Reggie’s senior year. I was 10.
by Acdixon on May 11, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Unforgettables
have one spot on my list too. So you are not alone.
Plus, my list doesn’t stay with 5 or 10 names. I only add to it. And yes it is getting longer, but that is okay because we can do what we want with our list. We make the rules there.. :-)
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fave Five
Kenny Walker
Winston Bennett
Kyle Macy
Tony Delk
Travis Ford
with honorable mention to — Dirk Minniefield, Mel Turpin, Jack Givens, Keith Bogans, Tayshaun Prince, and Jeff Sheppard.
by Ken Howlett on May 11, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about favorite non-UK college BB players --
Mark Aguirre (DePaul), Milt Wagner (UL), Ted Kitchel (IU), Steve Alford (IU), Wayman Tisdale (Oklahoma), Len Bias (Maryland), Larry Bird (Indiana St.), Tim Duncan (WF).
by Ken Howlett on May 11, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honorable mentions
Of course. That’s how I could also squeeze Jeff Brassow, Cameron Mills, Chuck Hayes, and Todd Svboda onto my list! Great idea, Ken.
by Acdixon on May 12, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hayes
Was an unassuming player on some great unassuming teams. The fact that so many fans remember him fondly as one of their all time favorites despite his lack of self promotion is a testament to his hard work and desire.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 11, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Benefits
I’d have to agree on this particular benefit for Coach Cal. Let us know where they go next spring break.
by phrohg on May 11, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wish I could get that benefit in my plan.....lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on May 11, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was kind of the problem during the earlier part of the decade
The stars weren’t like the stars of the prior decades. It seemed like they were overachieving. Then again, maybe, with no final fours since 98, maybe they were doing just that.
by Dini-D-Alum on May 11, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A former Huggins UC player accused of being a thug?
Next your going to tell me the sun rises in the East. . .
The King is dead! Long live the King!
by NYCCats on May 11, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or, "you're"
The King is dead! Long live the King!
by NYCCats on May 11, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or that he graduated.....
Envy our past......Fear our future
by btcoop71 on May 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually He DOES Have His Degree From UC (Check His NBA Bio)
And he was recruited (hard) by Pitino in 1996 – UK was perhaps his 2nd choice to UC back then.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta comment on something, and if any of you
know “the rest of the story” to quote Paul Harvey, please let me know. Lane Kiffin has given a scholarship to a player that has been CONVICTED of rape of his 14 year old cousin. Now I know the John Wall situation has caused a stir the last week or so, but tell me that the situation in college sports has not come to this…..the kid supposedly duct taped the girl and used a toilet plunger on her?? Someone tell me this is wrong, or incorrect, or something.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on May 11, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he was 13 when it happened
he was tried as a juvenile, ended up at a catholic high school for a second chance and quit sports for three years to do good-works-type things to restore his image. his high school swears up and down that he is not the same person who committed that awful crime. the victim wrote a letter of support to UT for him. his high school said it would stake its reputation on hood being a stand-up, reformed guy.
what he did was awful, but he was 13, and it should at least be acknowledged that most anyone deserves a second chance. kiffin has been blasted since the signing, but it’s not quite as simple as it seems.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on May 11, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks B
I knew there had to be more…not sure that it makes me feel any better, but at least I understand it some. Just amazes me that people were ready to crucify this Wall kid for going into an abandoned house.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on May 11, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ESPN article on this that I linked last week paints a different story than even that
He wasn’t the one who raped her. He was only an accomplice in the crime (if that makes it any better). He helped tie her down, but it was actually a 17 year old kid who raped her. That guy is still serving a 10 year sentence.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 11, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
But standing by while someone does that and to your own blood?
I just dont think I could ever get over that, ever.
by Dini-D-Alum on May 11, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck, I have to agree....
Chuck has been on my list of faves, probably since he picked UK over KU. He is a KY Wildcat, deep down. A player is not allowed to start so many consecutive games, if they don’t give the game their all. Bottom line. I’m no coach, but that says a lot to me. The guy gets it. He knows no other way. Give it your all, Chuck. We are still watching with pride.
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On a Brighter note!
Thanks for the Chuck Hayes story. One of my fondest memories of Chuck at UK was the beautiful bounce passes between him and Eric Daniels. He will always be a favorite of mine. It just goes to show that height does not make a center!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rondo
Last night on TNT they said that Rajon was the best point guard playing in the play offs. I think that will change to the best point guard in the NBA if He continues. WOW what a transformation. In college He didn’t even have a “shot”. Now He controls the game, rebounds, and scores at will.
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes oldcat70,
Rondo seems to have flown in under the radar both in college and the NBA. Some, if not most didn’t think he was good enough. Here is a nice article from ESPN Rise about Rondo.
A great kid who is also very talented, even if they are just realizing that. He is going to show them what dreams are made of, no doubt.
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link!
Sorry about the delay. Had to answer the phone.
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rondo is playing great BB right now,
but I think he has a long way to go in order to be better than Chris Paul, or Steve Nash.
Rondo, though, is having a great career, and will only continue to get better.
by Ken Howlett on May 11, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rondo
best point guard in the playoffs?
He could be but I think Billups gives him a run for his money. At least top two though. I think the effect Chauncey Billups has had on the Nuggets cannot be overstated. IMO he’s more important to the Nuggets than Rondo to the Celtics but it’s certainly up for debate.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 11, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have to agree
The most important trade this year had to be AI for Billups. It made the Nuggets and ruined the Pistons.
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pistons
It certainly ruined the Pistons this season but it also gives them a chance to retool and make another serious run as I have addressed at length in the past.
Unfortunatley it may also lead to Tay being traded. It’s looking more and more like Dumars is going to offer Tay and Rip to someone for a young frontcourt player like Bosh or David West and then use his cap space to go after Ben Gordon.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 11, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard
UK is going to schedule the pistons for a preseason tune up next year. Though I can’t say much, my Suns sure have faded.
by daniel81 on May 11, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suns
Sarver was an idiot for dumping Dantoni for Terry Porter and then not riding it out. If you are going to commit to a half court defensive game you have to let your coach do his job. That said the Suns will reload in a couples seasons once Shaqs contract comes off the books and they dump a few more older players. They need to get Alvin Gentry resigned though. They have been dragging their feet on that.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 11, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suns signed Gentry
for three years yesterday.
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On another note!
I found this to be funny. " It seems that the recruitment of John Wall has-hit the wall.
It was reported that He may not sign a LOI. Momma will have more later!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
by oldcat70 on May 11, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I told you
It’s because he’s a hardened criminal :)
by daniel81 on May 11, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wall?
After listening to Patrick, can anyone see any foresight on this kid, John Wall? He will not make a short list, and now, (I am not surprised) may not sign a LOI at all. He is beyond my logic…..and I have given him the benefit of being young. This is getting worse.
Could he be wanting some schools to withdraw from his list so he has a decision made for him? I would think he would want better control of his future. Because some will fill the scholly. Or, could he be waiting to see if ole’ Roy might change his mind? Just any kind of answer might help me understand him at this point…..
:-)
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you hit on a couple of things
1) he must really want to go to UNC and is waiting for Roy to cave
OR
2) he is hoping something happens to make the decision for him
I, like you, have been trying to give him the benefit of being young, but time is running out. i will give him to the end of the signing period and then, unless something out of the ordinary comes out, will throw in the towel…i see no reason to go past the LOI signing period…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love for Hayes
I have always loved Chuck Hayes. His games in blue…are highlights for me. He is one of those who plays every second of a game. He always did. If one ever had any doubt about his BBN heart remember the shots when he watched Houston beat Kentucky. He was as pained as any fan that night. In case the memory has faded… December 18, 2007 Houston 83, Kentucky 69. I wish for Mr. Hayes he gets to see some action this upcoming season.
by CAWebb on May 11, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Hayes
This is one of the players that I hope CoachCal has back to talk to next year’s roster. He gave every thing he had, every minute that he played. I don’t know how you could find a better example of what KENTUCKY on your chest represents. He was the ultimate team player.
by Bluegilla on May 11, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favorite Players
My 4 favorite players of the past decade are Rondo, Hayes, Prince, and Patterson. I love seeing Rondo do well. I remember yelling at Tubby to let him take over games. No one could guard him in college when he was allowed to push the tempo. Hayes did it all and was a great person. Prince was fun to watch and a good kid. Patterson, nothing needs to be said. Love these guys, plus many others, ha ha.
Lane
by Laird on May 11, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Calipari/Patterson press conference starting any second now. . .
http://www.wkyt.com/sports/misc/30967134.html
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
saying it will be only patrick talking
cal will talk wed, PP’s parents will be available later
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patterson will be the only one speaking.
Calipari will be available for media later today.
Softball team will also be available for media later today.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
btw -
right now just a wall with a bunch of “UK” s on it – but this beats watching the door…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Test test. . .one two. . .test. . ."
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whas site is clearer....
http://www.whas11.com/video/?nvid=57426&live=yes&noad=yes
but a minute or so behind the wkyt site
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kentuckysportsradio's player is pretty good too. I think it's the CJ's cameraman.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone is “baby-talking”. . .
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Said he was guaranteed first round,
was told likely 14-20.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting his degree, the opportunity to play for Cal, and the chance to play on a
national contender team were the 3 factors.
Also listed the new guys he’s excited to play with-interesting, listed “Darnell” (Dodson) first.
Said he hopes Meeks comes back as well.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
amazing
he never even went to a nba workout because he knew in his heart he wanted to come back - what a special kid…………….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very Well Spoken
Most athletes can’t go 2 sentences without several “you knows”. Patrick is very well spoken. I hope Bledsoe gets a copy of this presser. I couldn’t understand most of what the young man was saying, but Patrick is nothing but class, all the way. What a great representative for the University!
by Bluegilla on May 11, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gerald Fitch
Worst UK spokesperson ever, IMO.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wants to focus on improving
ball handling the most, then foot speed, footwork, vertical, strength, and jump shot.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if he works on all the things he is talking about...
he will be a BEAST – even more so than he is.
dribbling to the basket, an even better jump shot, vertical leap…..and we all know he has the work ethic to do it
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't look at this as his "last go-round."
Will look to leave after junior year, but could return for senior.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At first, he really wanted to go to NBA.
A big part of him wanted to be done with college and go to the NBA.
Roster and coaching staff got him re-thinking that.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds like he would have been gone
had BCG been back…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He sounds like he was just frustrated and over the college experience. I’m sure this all looks like a chance to start over in college.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly -
and will i believe he will be gone after next year, he did open the door to possibly coming back for his senior year……
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gillispie
He is the one when asked if he liked Gillispie said, “No – I love him.”
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know...
but BCG was his coach – watching this kid, he would have not said anything different – and will not to this day because he is class…
I was just letting blbskue be the play by play and i was being the color man – stating an opinon based on his tone and body language of PP
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
I just do not believe that Patrick disliked GIllispie and that would be the reason of his departure had Gillispie stayed. I think it would have been more that the “turmoil” existing with Gillispie’s return would have influenced his decision not personal dislike for the coach.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough.....
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think neither of you know how he feels either way
Envy our past......Fear our future
by btcoop71 on May 11, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats why we used "think" and "believe"
and said i was stating an opinion….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't mean to sound like a dick
Re-reading what I wrote, it came across a lot worse than I intended.
Envy our past......Fear our future
by btcoop71 on May 11, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough.....
:)
and actually, in the spirit of Patrick Patterson, it does not really matter what he might have done – he is not looking back so there is no need for me/us to either…..
the fact is, UK will be blessed with his presence one more year and i will relish every minute he plays in a UK uniform…..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, Tink.
I think you and I are amongst the last Gillispie “supporters,” but I don’t think Patterson personally disliked Gillispie. I do thinK Patterson was likely sick and tired of the criticisms, turmoil, and general negativity around the program, as well as losing.
Of course, I could be way off base and he hated Gillispie’s guts, and put on a public face.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you and I are amongst the last Gillispie "supporters,"
There arent many of us – that’s for sure! No worries though – have you read my “tag line?” ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. Very nice.
And true.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't know about Jodie. He wished Jodie best of luck in making his decision.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He seems to really like
Dodson and is excited to play with him. Mentioned him again. Maybe Dodson will be a very good player.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dodson has the JUCO knock against him...
…but I’ve seen multiple scouts describe him as a kid who could be a top 25 player in this year’s class.
by BBallSophist on May 11, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he seems to really like UK
he may have actually come to UK because of the tradition – i know it was close to his home, but he talks of putting on the jersey with KENTUCKY on the front….may have to rethink my answer to the poll a few days ago by bigsky :)
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know but
Patrick is an exception to most guys now, IMO
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Said that if there hadn't been a coaching change,
he doesn’t know if he would have pulled his name out or not.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's being fairly obvious about the effect the coaching change had on him,
but he’s gong out of his way to not say anything bad about the previous coaching staff.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cal in the house
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whas showing Call in the back of the room
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PPat=CLASS
The NBA wasn’t in his “heart”……Classy guy !! So smart too…….
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whas feed down - you think the guys at wkyt pulled the plug :)
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a great example
of why this guy is so very special…..Thanks Patrick…..
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats a young man
that has his head on straight……..
by Bluehound on May 11, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he can only lead.........
Or I should say, his mindset be welcomed by our young recruits….He can LEAD……
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
GOing back and listening to the presser again – it sounded to me that Pat was saying that he more than likely would have returned even with the previous coaching staff.
As much as I generally dislike the comments on KSR, I liked this one:
Also, it sounds like Pat would have come back under Clyde anyway, he said they were having fun during the NIT and he needed to develop his skills. As much as we would like to think Clyde was horrible on all accounts, I think Pat had his back. Much like he will for Cal
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I generally agree.
I do think that Patterson respected and got along with Gillispie better than most. I have nothing to back it up—just gut.
I think that Patterson was tired of the negativity and criticisms around the program, as well as losing. I think that had Gillipsie remained, if he felt confident the negativity would change and UK would win more games, he would have returned. Had Gillispie remained, but Patrick felt like the turmoil would continue, he was gone.
Calipari coming in and the immediate positive cloud that came with him made the decision much easier, I’m sure.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on that situation.
I think had Gillispie returned and all the crap started up again with those that did not have a good relationship with him (“If he comes back, I’m outta here” etc) then Pat would have said screw it and headed off to make his millions.
I’m with you though – got nothing to back it up. I just really dont think Pat had a problem with BCG.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
that us that supported BG felt the same as what you stated above. I had absoultely had it with the negativity. I didn’t care who was coach but I was sick of the dark cloud above UK. SICK OF IT. Whatever needed to be done ……………just do it and get on with it. I feel for BG I really do but it was the best thing for the overall program for the reason you stated above.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on May 11, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get that
however, unfortunate as it may be, the bad taste that all this has left lingers on for me…
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem
with that at all. I understand. UK didn’t treat him well in the end. It was done in poor taste. Maybe this coming season will take that bitterness away for you :)
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on May 11, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so! ;)
At least I got the chance to tell him how I felt though in person. That does help. :)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah?
Where’d you see him, Tink?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeneland
I saw him at the paddock at Keeneland and he took pictures with us and signed my program. We ended up seeing him out afterward and talking some more there. It was AWESOME. He is a GREAT guy.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tink
I am so happy that you had that experience with Coach G. He is IMO a good guy and a good coach. He was just over his head at UK in realizing what the total job entails. He did not like the constant media stuff, he just wanted to do his job of recruiting and coaching his boys, but the job has a lot of other things that did not suit his personality. I wish him the best wherever he goes.
by kykat51 on May 11, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She failed to mention that she's also expecting
Her husband will be very angry when the kid comes out surly and she wants to name him “Billy Jr.”
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 13, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Nah – we’re just gonna call him “Little Clyde.” ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 14, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S.
Billy was far from “surly” when I met him. :)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 14, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hence the pregnancy
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 15, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S
and now I what I am SICK OF is how a lot of people (that I encounter anyways) cant seem to be excited about the future without bashing on Billy at the same time. Those two things dont – and shouldnt – go hand in hand.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and he is gone and its no longer necessary to bash him(well it wasn’t before either). Its time to move on.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on May 11, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more
thing though………..TInk……..it doens’t matter who was head coach…….just like Doherty at NC…..someone had to be the fall guy between great coaches…….and BG was that for UK.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on May 11, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think he could have been one of the great coaches
had he been given the time. I really believe that and that is what makes it hardest for me.
P.S. I SO wish I could show you the picture we took – you would love it! I look totally protective of him – in a “stay off my man” kinda way. LOL! ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more, one more thing (lol)
I TOTALLY do not consider Tubby to have been one of the great coaches in the scenerio you just presented (“someone had to be the fall guy between great coaches”). In my opinion, the last “great” coach we had was Pitino.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 11, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, while I'm sure I'll get another
comment from Forty about using “Tubby” and “Gillispie” in the same sentence, when Gillispie came on many couldn’t be exicted without bashing Tubby. Same situation here, though the “bashing” is based on different reasons, I suppose.
I’ll always respect Gillispie and how hard he worked at UK. It’s a shame things didn’t work out, but people need to let him go without the negativity. The man worked his ass off for UK for more than 2 years, and he deserves better, despite what one may think of coaching abilities, recruiting abilities, or general disposition.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on May 11, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was well said.
Unfortunately, civility, much like in politics, seems to have lost yet again.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on May 11, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Great post. succinctly says what I feel. Like Tink, I thought BCG could have been a great coach. Unfortunately, he got a group of guys that his personality didn’t mesh with, for whatever reason. Not a knock on him or those guys; sometimes it just happens. So he didn’t hobnob with the rich folks? Big freakin’ deal. People who think they are special because of their money aren’t the people I want to spend my time with either. I guess that makes him a bad fit as UK’s coach, but that in itself doesn’t make him a bad person, as some people (no one on here) seem to think it does.
by Acdixon on May 11, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been documented here before
So no sense getting into another BCG conversation… I hate the bashing, but can we all admit that BCG’s problems were more than just he “didn’t hobnob with rich guys.” REGARDLESS of coaching skills, he was uncomfortable with PR and set up an inconsistent environment for players and fans alike.
I think he’s extremely skilled. Yes, if he won more games he would’ve been given another season, which isn’t fair. But in hindsight, we all know he didn’t fit this environment. He was let go prematurely. BUT even if he was given 5 years, I believe BCG would still refuse to bend to anyone, and ultimately that was his undoing.
And at minimum he’ll get a great severance package (how much remains to be seen, but it will be a lot regardless) and find a school that wants his “my way or highway” attitude, letting him work his style in peace. So I really don’t feel bad because it is a relationship that didn’t work.
I also don’t feel bad about Coach Cal being released from the Nets in almost as short of a period. He seemed to recover pretty well. :-)
by Filmcat on May 11, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Main Problem
Gillispie’s #1 problem was visible to him in the mirror shaving or brushing his teeth every morning.
He’ll do well to take a lower profile job at a school in Texas and coach there.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
….and he wasn’t likely the only coach whose “…#1 problem was visble to him in the mirror..”
by hoboat33 on May 11, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the tears
Tru, dadgummit you just keep bringing tears to my eyes! We love our Chuck Hayes. What a great story. Honestly I don’t follow NBA that much but it gives me a team to root for :). Great link about UK softball! Will have to watch for them on TV if they show it. I don’t think UT got in and that is usually who we watch.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on May 11, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck
The great thing about Chuck is that, as Battier says, the things that make him so good are not obvious to a casual observer. That makes rooting for him kind of like being a part of a secret club – walking around looking at other people around you and thinking, “I know something you don’t know.” Or, as Joe Posnanski puts it, having, “that feeling and deep connection you might have about a new band or a hidden restaurant or an edgy comedian that you feel like nobody else knows about or appreciates quite the same way.” (Joe was writing about baseball, but it’s a broader point that applies equally well with Chuck)
Bill James once wrote that Craig Biggio was the perfect answer to the question about “the player with subtle skills, the player who isn’t a recognized star but who is just as valuable as the star because of his combination of skills. Who is the player that best exemplifies that other kind of star?” James wrote that Biggio “was the player who wasn’t a star, but who was just as valuable as the superstars because of his exceptional command of a collection of little skills—getting on base, and avoiding the double play, and stealing a base here and there, and playing defense.”
That’s Chuck Hayes. He’s the guy who doesn’t score, but has that collection of little skills – defense and rebounding, intelligence, mental and physical maturity – that make him just as valuable to a team as a superstar.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
by JLeverenz on May 11, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that's right.
In a way, Ramon Harris is kind of like that. It’s hard to see what he does that helps the team, but the team seems to be better with him on the floor (when he’s 100%, that is).
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on May 11, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the chuck/battier links
it may speak to my nerdiness, but the times article on battier was genuinely exciting
by mthall on May 11, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Battier ...
… and Hayes are cut from the same cloth.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on May 11, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't we leave Battier outta this?
he’s from pUKe for goodness sakes!!!! :) LOL!!!
has the Hayes love allowed y’all to overlook this important fact? good grief!! turncoats!!! all of you’ns!!
I want to die while asleep like my grandfather,
not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.
by bluecrip on May 11, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Battier
is a class act. The only Dukie I like. I hated it when Memphis traded him.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on May 12, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes---
was the beginning of the end to what little success the grizzlies were having -
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 12, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Thought Or Two, Or Three ...
1) Was there ever a more perfect conjoining of player and coach than that of Hayes and Smith?
2) Yes, the ACC is closing FB gap on SEC but only because the gap was a virtual canyon to begin.
3) Rachel Lawson, UK softball, appears to be another excellent hire by Mitch Barnhart.
4) The photo of UK cheerleaders causes an old man to yearn for his youth and spring break.
by Wild Weasel on May 11, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh. On point 4.
That might be the most uncontroversial thing mentioned on this blog. Ever.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on May 11, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you see,
controversy is in the “eyes” of the beholders…LOL I have chosen until now to comment on this. Since I am a female, I didn’t care for the link on thought #4, but I understand why so many like it. I have no problem with that. . . ;-)
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UK Has Male And Female Cheerleaders
Not sure which he was ogling.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Forty,
but the guys are way to young for my eyes……Haha …. No offense meant to anyone on that. My son is older than they are. I am also glad of that too…… :-)
Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on May 11, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Hayes
He was the one player signed by UK in the 2001 recruiting class that was “supposedly” hurt by the UK coach being at the Olympics in August and September 2000.
Josh Carrier and Rashaad Carruth had already committed to UK earlier that summer. The Cats had just 1 open scholarship – either Hayes or Jason Maxiell would get it.
Hayes picked UK over Kansas. Maxiell picked UC over UK.
Hayes http://bearcatnews.com/recruiting/bio/38 recruiting tidbits.
Maxiell http://bearcatnews.com/recruiting/bio/36 likewise.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maxiell
hated him at UC. Love in Detroit. All said and done though Chuck is tops.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 11, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 2005 NCAA game between UK and UC produced one of my favorite basketball quotes of all time
From Jay Bilas “The meek may inherit the earth, but they aren’t getting a rebound in this game.”
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
by JLeverenz on May 11, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too Bad You Don't Know Him
Never met a nicer young man in my life. His Mom is a wonderful lady, too. I work with her cousin here in Chicago.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New game...
…coming soon to the fanposts. Its called the Four Degrees of Forty : )
by atom on May 11, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Just Happen To Know The Maxiell's Thru A Friend From UC
Jason was born and raised (most of his pre-teenage life) here in Chicago before moving to Texas.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maxiell
All I mean by that is I disliked him as an opposing player. His time in Detroit has shown me he is a great guy. I would actually love to meet him.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 11, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chuck's Sr Night
I also attended Senior Night 2005, and bawled like a baby during MOKH, watching Chuck’s tears as he waved one last goodbye. He gave everything he had, every day. A true warrior and one of the best representatives of the university Kentucky has ever had. So proud of him for what he has accomplished in the NBA, and would love to see him back in blue, perhaps on Cal’s bench in a few years. :))
by BluegrassBabe on May 11, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Tru ...
… the gov’t has no business in the business of college athletics.
by Ken Howlett on May 11, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
amen....
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on May 11, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little Wall bored
Sorry…. but I was wondering if the Miami game last year was a home-and-home series or a one year contract? If Wall goes to Miami, I’d like to play them.
by hoboat33 on May 11, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty...
sure it was a home and home.
The Spork, I'm two things in one.
by the spork on May 11, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Wall is
aware Ky and Miami may play next year. If I were him I’d rather play with Bledsoe than against him; if he can’t dominate Bledsoe it could negatively impact his value.
by hoboat33 on May 12, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Chuck Hayes write-up
I was fortunate enough to be at the game, and Hayes was an absolute beast. The storyline going into the game was how the Rockets had no chance after losing Yao Ming, yet post-mortem, the AP recap, the SportsCenter stories, almost none of it focused on how well Hayes played.
He absolutely locked down Pau Gasol on the defensive end; through the first three quarters, Gasol won only one possession in the post against Hayes. Contrast that to when Scola or Brian Cook was guarding Gasol, and Pau had an absolute field day. Further, Hayes was consistently active and tipped the ball quite a few times. A couple of them led to steals and rebounds, but for the most part, these are things that go unnoticed by the box score.
He was ridiculously good, and a major factor in the Rockets victory, despite scoring “only” two points in the game.
He’s my absolute favorite non-star NBA player, and kudos to him for all the hard work he’s put in.
by jc25 on May 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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