Morning Newspaper for April 18th
There is a bit of interesting news today, some of it involving the man you see to the left. As we know, Patrick Patterson has made himself available for the draft without signing with an agent, the so-called "testing the NBA waters" move that we see so often these days, understandably.
First of all, it's official -- Delk and Padgett are on the Wildcats coaching staff in entry-level positions. Also in this article, Calipari gives Patterson some sage advice:
"I tell Patrick, if you're a lottery pick, you should go, because next year you will be in the lottery, maybe a top-10 (pick)."
Coach also cautioned against late first-round picks: "The UK coach noted that a late-round pick typically belongs to a team with a better record, meaning a less chance of playing significant minutes. So the second contract is not for as much money." I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps this should inform Meeks' decision, as well.
And now, the news.
Kentucky Basketball News
- Calipari says that he doesn't plan to be coaching even ten more years. That's not great news for those that were looking forward to a long and glorious run.
- Former UK early, early commit Michael Avery visits Hoosierland. Wouldn't that be a bit of irony if he winds up with Crean?
- John Clay's Big Blue Links for today.
- Kentucky now ranked #5 on Rivals' list of top recruiting classes. If Henry or Wall come, it is a foregone conclusion UK will be #1. If both come, it would be an unheard-of, historic class.
- Chris Diggs is hearing that Barry Rohrssen, coach of Manhattan College, might wind up as Associate Head Coach at UK. I don't know beans about this guy, but Chris provides some linkage for your further edification.
- Matt Pilgrim talks to Larry Vaught about his future at UK.
- Andy Staples at SI writes about "side deals" where top recruits are now requesting an automatic release upon request from the LOI if the coach leaves as a condition of signing an LOI with a school. Even though Henry's Memphis deal did create some turmoil among the recruiting class, Staples points out (I think correctly) that it would be much worse in football, particularly if there were an early signing period.
These "side deals" right now are confined to top recruits, and will likely remain that way, and if you are in the top five or so, it shouldn't be a problem. But the NCAA's NLI director points out that the "side deals" are not enforceable by the NCAA -- if the school refused to honor their promise to void the LOI, the recruit would be stuck with the consequences of the LOI regardless of that agreement, and would have to seek redress in civil court -- or the court of public opinion. - John Calipari is buying quite a litte cottage in Lexington, according to The Big Lead.
- Pre-draft changes could have major consequences. I like this: "And there's no limit to how good Kentucky could be if Jodie Meeks and Patrick Patterson decide to come back and John Calipari is able to bring Wall into the fold."
- It just might take a while to restore the Kentucky brand, according to Coach Calipari. "Solid but unspectacular" is a good way, I think, to describe Kentucky for most of the last ten years. But here is the encapsulation of Calipari's vision:
Now that is a place we want to get back to.Calipari says there was a time not long ago that whenever he came across a member of the Kentucky staff on the recruiting trail, he would ask the coach if the Wildcats were seriously pursuing a certain player. If the answer came back "yes," then Calipari would wish them well and walk out, figuring he had no shot.
- Should John Wall join the D-league instead of the college ranks? Ridiculous Upside makes the case, and I think it has merit. Unfortunately, most of the benefit, in my mind, would not go to Wall, but to the D-league. I think that might be a problem. But it could happen someday, even if not with Wall.
- [UPDATE 1] Jeremiah Davis is looking for the right fit, and Kentucky could be it. But so could Indiana.
- [UPDATE 1] How weird would it be if Orton went to Memphis and Henry came to Kentucky?
Kentucky Football News
- UK coaches excited about young, athletic secondary. With Lindley back as the anchor, I think the secondary is going to be excellent this year with the return of Randall Burden and Winston Guy. We all knew we were getting a good one in Guy who was a Rivals 4-star. Get this: "UK Coach Rich Brooks called Guy the most talented defensive back he's signed since arriving in Lexington in 2003, and defensive coordinator Steve Brown concurred."
- Alan at Over the Pylon has highlights from Rich Brooks' SEC teleconference.
- [UPDATE 1 ]Kentucky offense shines in scrimmage today. Randall Cobb in particular drew praise from Rich Brooks. KSR has some video here.
- [UPDATE 1] The Johnson brothers are ready for their senior year at UK. Micah and Christian will be spending their last year together as Wildcats. How awesome is that?
- [UPDATE 1] Daniel Orton and Xavier Henry together. Daniel is a well-spoken, bright young man. We are lucky to be getting him.
Other Kentucky Sports News
- Gary Henderson and the Bat Cats beat their old coach. Well, that's the first good news in a while for this year's Kentucky baseball team.
NCAA Sports News
- SEC football teams give fans a peek at scrimmages.
- Paulus no more.
- Point-Counterpoint: Luke Harangody.
- Blake Griffin and the NBA Draft Lottery.
Other News of Interest
- Heh. Very funny.
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Wall, Cousins, Henry, Orton, Hood
That tops the Michigan “Fab 5” group and the UK class of 1979.
The highest rated players in 1 class ever (if it happens).
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
Kentucky Or Memphis Recruiting (Lately)
Calipari generally got his 1st choices at Memphis.
2006, both UK and Memphis recruited Derrick Jasper and Willie Kemp. UK got Jasper, Memphis landed Kemp.
2008, both recruited Liggins and Galloway. UK landed both. But Memphis landed (higher rated) Tyreke Evans.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
We're not getting those 5 guys
My hopes have went down hill about henry and wall the last couple of days. Wall’s body language and tone about Ky does not sound that positive to me. Xavier’s mom saying she wanted him to go to Kansas tells me all I need to know. I would be pleased with Bledsoe! If would got just Eric Would that still give up the #1 class?
Just Eric Bledsoe, Probably Not
Add Henry and Bldesoe, yes #1 class this year.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I have consistently said that Henry would wind up at Kansas ...
… but I’m not real sure now. Yes, his mom and dad both played there, but let’s look at reality — Kansas lost out over Memphis, a far less storied program than UK. Henry has said (and his opt-out agreement over his LOI proves) that he went to Memphis because of Calipari. Calipari is now at a better school with better players and a much bigger stage even than Memphis enjoyed.
So if we stick to logic, it’s hard to see how Kansas’ prospects improve in this scenario, other than their great on-court performance this year (which could be a factor). My thinking is that Xavier is pretty much his own man on this call, because it looks like he was on his previous call. I can’t say that what his mom thinks isn’t important to him, but it’s hard to see how she could be OK with Memphis and not OK with UK. My take is that she isn’t OK with either one, yet it didn’t stop Xavier from going to Memphis.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 18, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Storied Program?
I read an article where Henry says he doesnt know anything about Kentucky’s history.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes ...
… but you can bet he does now, or will on his visit. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 18, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
it just kind of rubbed me the wrong way a little. I mean I know Kenucky hasnt really been “Kentucky” for awhile, but to say that you dont know anything about the program’s history is a little off-putting to me.
I am very excited about the upcoming Calipari era, but I hope that everyone is really ready for all the changes in “Kentucky” that I forsee. Yes, I do believe that we will win a TON, but all the talk of headbands, etc does make me a bit nervous as far as the new Kentucky might go.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Addendum
I know times are changing and I am PUMPED that UK is changing with them, I just really dont want to see a Tennessee-esque roster – that’s all.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well ...
… all I can say is that even if Henry were no more talented than Perry Stevenson, he is an incredibly high-quality young man, extremely well-spoken and carries a high GPA. I would love to have 13 players just like him.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 18, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Henry
I dont know anything at all about Henry outside of his playing ability and was not attempting to pass judgement on him. Just voicing a concern.
Some of Cal’s former players werent exactly stand-up guys, but happened to be VERY skilled at the game of basketball. I personally dont have a problem with that at all, but thinking that the big wigs might.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Storied Program
I would say that Xavier Henry not being familiar with Kentucky’s storied past — emphasis on past — is the rule rather than the exception as far as today’s recruits are concerned, and for three reasons: One, the years-long abasement of the UK brand as so pointedly noted by Calipari; two, the technology-shortened attention span of today’s youth; three, propensity of current prospects to favor coach and/or style over institution.
As for headbands, wristbands, sleeves, tattoos and other items of ornamentation I fail to see their significance.
UK Had #1 Record In Div I Basketball (2003 Thru 2005)
Two #1 seeds and one #2 seed. Top 5 ranked teams each year.
The last 2 years (2008 and 2009) did SERIOUS damage to the UK brand but thankfully, that’s been changed.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Last 4 Years, OK
2006 and 2007 both yielded at least 22 W and 1 W in NCAA tourney.
2008 and 2009 were worse.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
but I think ’06 and ’07 were bad years that just led us into worse years.
The Spork, I'm two things in one.
2009 Should Have Been Better
2008 was riddled with injuries but 2009 team was 16-4 in mid January.
No reason for its demise.
No good reason anyway.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Forty can quote all the statistics you want...
and while i generally agree with forty, the fact is perception is reality and FF mean more than seeds….NCs mean more than seeds…and that is what these kids see…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 18, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If That's The Case
How did UK sign the #1 class in 2004, three Top 50 recruits in 2006, Top 10 class in 2007, Top 15 class in 2008, and Top 5-10 class in 2009?
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
sheesh ...
you just don’t quit do you? Tubby defender to the rescue!
go back to the board where you made fun of UK fans for being racists and answer my question.
On a positive note
I received my Calipari’s Cats nike tshirt in the mail today; It is awesome.
I like bledsoe
People can say all they want about his interview at the derby festival, but I thought the kid was brave and said what he needed to say. Jon Hood admitted he couldn’t guard him and he’s rated as the best defender for a guard for the 09 class.
Well ...
… of course Jon Hood couldn’t guard him — good grief, who would have thought he could?
I’m pretty sure Bledsoe couldn’t guard Jon Hood either — they play different positions, hood is 6’6" and Bledsoe about 6’1"
Bledsoe does not want to come to UK, but may if he has no better prospects and a spot is available. I agree that he would be fine, but he is no John Wall.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 18, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree that Bledsoe doesn't want to come to UK.
I think he really wants to come to UK and will if two things happen:
1. He qualifies academically.
2. John Wall goes elsewhere
He knows he’s the second choice behind Wall and doesn’t like it, but I think he would still prefer to play for Kentucky if he had his choice.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, but ...
… he has consistently said that he really wants to be at Duke, but that seems like a low probability. Clearly, his academics are an issue there, so he doesn’t get his dream.
I get nothing from any of his utterances that indicate he really wants to come to UK. That doesn’t mean that he won’t, clearly UK is a great option for him from a purely “business” perspective, but my feeling from his comments are that he would prefer to play elsewhere if he had his druthers. That’s what I get from his public comments, anyway.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Well, he may prefer to play at Duke...
…but that’s just one school. Out of the realistic choices, I think he’d prefer to play for Kentucky, but I’m going off of more than his public comments.
The longer his recruitment goes on, the more schools will get involved. I guess that’s kind of an obvious thing to say, though…
If it was possible I’d prefer to have both Wall and Bledsoe (again, obvious, haha). We have no point guard on the roster right now and I’d like to go more than 1 deep at the position. If Xavier signs and CJ is cleared to play, that would give us two (provided Wall commits), so that’s another option. Either way, I’d like to have 2 point guards on the roster rather than 1. Though I’m not sure if that’s possible give our scholarship situation.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
we have liggins and galloway
as servicable backups at PGs and may be better than that in the DDO – no way we get both bledsoe and wall -
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 18, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I've thought about that.
I’m just skeptical.
I hope I’m wrong, but even Gillispie said in his last call-in show that he didn’t think they should be playing PG. I suppose for small stretches they could do a good job holding down the fort.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I really liked Bledsoe’s interview. The kid is good and knows it. Who wants to be nothing more than a back-up plan. He is honest and I like that.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Tink!!
I’ve been wondering about you! good to see you back on
Thanks!
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree Tru
If wall and henry were gonna play for Cal at Memphis why in the world would they not want to play for him at Ky? Wall is super hard to figure out. I get nothing from his interviews. The kid is as confusing as a rubic’s cube to me.
Just a thought - dont crucify me.
But what if these kids dont want to play for Cal at Kentucky because they arent crazy about living in the fishbowl that IS Kentucky. People can say what they will about the last season but our “fans” did sit out in those stands at Rupp and boo OUR OWN PLAYERS and coach. People all over the place talk about Kentucky fans in a negative light. You just never know.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Wall is just one of those players who seems to enjoy the spotlight.
There is little to nothing to gain from his interviews. He and the people around him are content to make things as hazy as possible, and that’s okay. They have nothing to lose by dragging it out and being coy about the decision. This is a guy who is good enough to become a brand name straight out of college, so anything to raise his public profile is good for him. It just drives fans (our fans, especially) nuts. I think Henry, on the other hand, is just weighing a few different concerns in his decision. Most signs point to him deciding within the next week or two, at the latest.
I am fairly confident we’re going to land Wall, regardless of whether he mentions us at the beginning of, or at all, in his list of schools when he is interviewed.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
personally...i think Wall has already made his mind up
if we notice that no other coach has been mentioned as far as contacting/flying out to visit Wall in over a week (except for Cal)…and no visits planned “except for the fly to Miami for free” visit…could be waiting for the scholarship to open up…could be waiting for Xavier/CJ so it makes a huge splash…but my guess (and gut) is telling me that he is coming to UK, if only to play for coach Cal…
Cousins is the only one
I want to see wearing a headband! I don’t see us winning a championship next year. All this “if we get wall we could win it all” talk is a lil unreasonable. I know there’s a bit of reality too it, but it just adds fuel to the “Ky fans having too big of expecations” arguement. I like to stay sorta grounded.
Things have to get worse before they can get better
Let’s hope that is over with Tink. Those were horrible times and things got pretty bad.
Henry, Wall and Cousins are comin......
Henry, Wall and Cousins are comin……
We’re UK and we’re not slummin…..
Orton and Hood will also bring the wood.
Betcha wish your team could
Your picture is so exciting to me!
What a heavenly man!
by mrmondaynite on Apr 18, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ain't he a hoot!!!
He’s a bad man no matter what his pic may show but we got a laugh in the newsroom when the popo sent us his pic.
some dude who was discovered to have child porn
on his computer or something after a runaway girl was found at his house. not sure how the girl got there, etc. i’m not sure if this is his DL pic or arresting photo.
What about the fact
that a player does not have to sign a LOI? Just show up to play where He wants to. They could drag this out all summer!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
i really think june 15
is as far as it drags out. that is when players have to take their names out of the draft if they are coming back.
does wall no good to wait much longer than then…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 18, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Off Topic....
But Rondo and Rose are having a great battle in the Bulls/Celtics playoff game.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Rose is incredible.
He’s making some outrageous shots out there.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he's the epitamy of...
what Calipari wants from his players. He’s awesome. Imagine how good Wall could be in Cal’s system. You can see from Rose’s play how aggressiveness is ingrained in Cal’s players. I’m giddy…
Rondo isn't too shabby either...
They’re putting on a show.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed....
All Calipari should do is pop in some video of Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans to show Wall just what he could do in a UK uniform.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Rose...
gets to the basket at will. What a great game!
The playoffs are great.
If you can’t enjoy the NBA playoffs, I don’t really think you’re much of a basketball fan (-:
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
The regular season on the other hand, is pretty lame. The playoffs are incredibly entertaining however.
I can't stand the Celtics....
I am a lifelong Laker fan. As much as I like Rondo it is mandatory that I dislike the Celtics.
Let’s play 5 more!
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Yeah...
I’m pulling for Chicago in this series. They could have had this one already if it wasn’t for dumb-a$$ Noah fouling Pierce.
Not a bad way to kick off the Playoff season....
if this game is any indication, the playoffs could be fantastic
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
On another note: Ray Allen is terrible in the playoffs
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They could've called a foul as well
He was bumped.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Rose is...
a class act as well. He had nothing but positive things to say about Rondo and doesn’t seem like he is a me-first kind of guy. I really hope Cal can keep recruiting guys like him to UK!
I'd love to be able to fly.
The chances of either happening are roughly equal, haha.
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I just knew he was going to hit that shot at the end of the half.
I just didn’t expect it to be a bank shot!
by BBallSophist on Apr 18, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask Lakers About Allen
Ray Allen’s wicked, ankle-snapping crossover and left-handed layup is my favorite memory of the Green championship.
what's with all the...
negativity??? I’m excited to know that we can just trust Cal to put a bad-ass team together! All of our speculation is simply that, speculation. Let’s trust the guy to put the right guys out there. Honestly, I feel like our chances at getting Wall are as good or better than any body else’s. I think if Patterson and Meeks come back and we get Wall along with our other incoming freshmen, I can’t blame anybody for picking us for the final 4. I don’t think I’m being a homer about this either; I can’t think of any other teams except for maybe Kansas that will be as loaded as we will be.
Something is going down at UofL
Point shaving and extortion mentioned by Pitino.This is going to get interesting.
is it point shaving?
good call on the son’s transfer Zoso. You just might have a point. I hadn’t put those two events together …
WLEX 18 reported...
…That the FBI has been contacted by Traitor Rick… Extortion was mentioned… Something is amiss…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

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