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Coach Calipari Meets the Big Blue Nation

"Heck, yeah I love this place!  Who wouldn't??"

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"Heck, yeah I love this place! Who wouldn't??"

I hope all of you got to listen to the coach's call-in show last night at 6:00, because if you didn't you really missed a treat.  Unfortunately, UK Athletics does not have the program up on its website yet, so those of you who did not hear it live will have to wait for it to be posted, and as soon as I find one, I'll make it available.

I can't help but be struck by the contrast between Coach Gillispie and Coach Calipari.  Gillispie often seemed like he wanted to be anywhere but the call-in show, even the first few months after he arrived at UK.  Calipari, on the other hand, acts like there is no place on Earth he would rather be than with Tom Leach talking to Wildcat fans.  Even when things were going well for Tubby Smith, he was never even close to as talkative and personable over the radio as Calipari is.  That's just a gift, folks, not a knock on the other two guys -- Coach Cal has what we older folks call, "the gift of gab."  He's never met a stranger and he will talk at great lenght about any subject that interests him.

Of course, Calipari has other built-in advantages, including a degree in business marketing.  A person commented on here about the fact that Coach had talked to the students the other day in a classroom setting, and Calipari referred to that event in his show, claiming that he would love to lecture or teach a class, quickly noting that it would have to be maybe only one hour per week or so.

Star-divide

But what Calipari said he really wanted to get across was to explain to young people how to make it in a tough economy, or through difficult times (I'm paraphrasing here from memory).  He reminded everyone that he was fired from the New Jersey Nets job, and he said that was a revelation for him and suggested that was the impetus behind his new book, Bounce Back: Overcoming Setbacks to Succeed in Business and in Life, which you can find at the link above.  It is scheduled for publishing later this year.

Calipari also talked about recruiting, and how important it was to have players in his DDMO offense.  But he did assuage the concerns of one Kentucky fan who feared it was all about just throwing talented guys on the court and letting them play by explaining that he runs plays in the DDMO, it's just not one play after another.  He also explained to another caller who was wondering how he would get a shot for a, "go to" scorer in his offense, and Coach said that if you charted his teams at Memphis, you would find that the best player got the most shots, the second best got the second most, and so on.

Coach Cal talked about Kentucky as the "Commonwealth's team" and said that he was going to try to get games in Cincinnati and go back to the Louisville-Indianapolis rotation with with Tom Crean's Hoosiers, splitting the gate at both sites, rather than the home and home we have now.  He said that while at UMass, he played in Boston and in Springfield as well as home, and that's the kind of thing he wants to do here.  He also noted that NCAA seeding is all about who you play out of conference, and says he knows that UK needs to get back to taking on all comers.

Calipari engages Kentucky fans on their level, which is something the previous coaches have often failed to do.  He talks basketball like a basketball geek would, but without too much jargon.  That's exactly what specifics-hungry UK fans crave out of their coach, and something that has not really been present to any great degree for -- well, as long as I can remember.  Rick Pitino was always great on the show, but his explanations of basketball often included cryptic references that made you scratch your head rather than a straightforward and easily understandable explanation.  Apparently, the gift of gab + a marketing degree = communication.  Communication with the fan base is important not only in general, but it's a real bonus when you can talk basketball in great detail in a way that Kentucky fans around the Commonwealth can understand.

It's hard not to be excited about Coach Calipari, and it's easy to understand why recruits are lining up to play for him.  He said that his goal is to get to the point that when UK coaches walk into an AAU game or high school game, all the other coaches will just hang their head and leave.  That kind of talk is like cool, spring water in the desert of our recent discontent, and speaks directly to the soul of Kentucky's tradition of excellence.  It resonates on a visceral, almost emphatic level and leaves you feeling empowered and secure in the knowledge that, once again, all is right with the world.

In a time of economic upheaval, it is welcome comfort for the troubled soul of the Wildcat fan.

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well Tru,

another great read. I am so excited to see KY basketball hoisted back up to where it wanted to be. A high pinnacle, shining bright for all to see. Because KY basketball is not just about another year, another team, it is about a great tradition. I t should not change from year to year.. KY basketball grows from year to year. We embrace the sport like no other fans I know. Each player that puts on that KY jersey, and wears it with pride, instantly becomes one of the family, for life. That is our greatness. That is why others envy our program. Some don’t believe it, some fear it, because they know it is real. And the unbelievers have not seen the entire picture. I think that day is coming again. They too will begin to see why KY basketball is a tradition unlike any other. A tradition that started years and years ago, and has only grown with each passing year.
Coach Cal has “sold” me….I know that KY will shine, the way it has always wanted to do.

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 17, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to check it out

I usually avoid coaches shows because, like all caller-based sports radio, they’re painful to listen too much of the time. But your summary intrigues me enough to catch it when I have a chance.

I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra

by JLeverenz on Apr 17, 2009 8:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The callers were actually really good last night

Apparently they’re stepping their game up as well, haha.

by BBallSophist on Apr 17, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screened?

There was a noticeable improvement in the tenor of questions and comments from callers and I wondered at the time if perhaps the screeners were being extra officious.

by Wild Weasel on Apr 17, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coach

I just wanted to know when you were gonna put ritchie in and I’ll just hang up and listen to you fellers talk.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Apr 17, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hi Coach Cal

I was wondering how you think Richie will fit into the dribble drive offense and whether or not it fits his style of play?

by camara40 on Apr 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow Tru...

…there at the end of your commentary, it almost sounds like you have a man crush on coach… (just kidding’ of course) ;-)

If you find the replay today, please link it, for some reason NONE of my radios will pick up WLAP am…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Apr 17, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not so much a man crush ...

… as amazed by the stark contrasts. You know, Gillispie turned out to be more similar than different to Smith on the call-in show. Pitino was usually great, but sometimes he was … I don’t know, condescending or something … off-putting, in a way. Perhaps Calipari will be the same way, eventually. But last night was such a marked contrast to the last 11 years that it was almost surreal.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing

Just a few short weeks ago when so many,including myself,were having a fit about BG and how he didn’t fit and how the players didn’t seem to want to be here and how poorly he handled himself with the media,you always seemed to think it was all being taken too far and that BG deserved another year. My how opinions have changed. Which by the way is fine but I think many had it right about the former coach all along. And going from BG to coach Cal is like going from a Fort Pinto to a Mercedes.

by maysvilleblue on Apr 18, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't changed my opinion on that.

But reality is reality. I still think it’s wrong to fire a coach after two seasons, and I still believe Gillispie could have succeeded at UK, but …

If you had asked me (and nobody did) if I thought Gillispie could have succeeded at UK as fast or as well as Calipari could, my answer would have been “No.” Calipari is, has been, and very likely will be a more successful coach than Gillispie, and there is no doubt in my mind, now or before, that Calipari’s style, both personal and basketball-wise, is a far better “fit” at UK, all other considerations aside.

I did not expect UK to be able to get him, and thought we would have had to settle for a much lesser coach (perhaps even lesser than Gillispie). I don’t think I can recall a single time in my life that I have been so overjoyed to be wrong. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 18, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Gillispie is good coach but bad fit at UK.

Calipari is great coach and terrific fit at UK.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

This is pretty much exactly how I feel/felt, word for word.

by BBallSophist on Apr 19, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except...

…that I thought we could get Calipari if we wanted him (-:

by BBallSophist on Apr 19, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I am going

to cry…..have waited and waited for this day to come…..do you suppose Tru that we as a fanbase are really going to appreciate what we have this time?? I never felt like Tubby got the love that he deserved while he was here….he got respect from some….but not as much love as he should have..of course if he was as good as Coach Cal is at selling what he was doing, he might still be here…..I swear, it’s almost impossible not to like this guy…I sell Insurance for a living, and I am good at it too….but I have never been as good as this guy is at making people feel comfortable…you’re right about the gift…I just hate I missed the show…

Remember, were having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 17, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For the moment ...

… I think we will appreciate it.

Ask me again when we have a couple of bad losses in a row, or in a four game stretch. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is almost

like we can hear music playing in the background as we read it. I think when a post like that comes along, you know that the writer truly felt the inspiration. Thanks again Tru…..

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 17, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No pun intended

there Tru, I just now noticed it. Sorry , but it does fit . : )

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 17, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Puns are always welcome. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok Folks....we're drifting here.....

I do disagree with one thing Coach said though….I understand his willingness to play anyone anywhere, but I would really like to see the return of the home and home series against various teams. We need to use Rupp to our advantage again….make it somewhere people fear once more…I really want to see the fear in people’s eyes again

Remember, were having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 17, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

While it’s nice to have the occasional game in Louisville for the fans there, I think we would be best served by making Rupp an intimidating place again. It has not been such for many years, and there are many reasons for that- less than stellar teams, rising costs, and the refusal of UK/Rupp admin to boot the blue hairs who don’t cheer, don’t stand and don’t care, and complain about those who do.

We need to make Rupp the most feared arena in college basketball. We need to dare big names to come there, and when they do, we need to run them out of the building.

by wildcatfaninexile on Apr 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's archive

This for reference material 4-5 years from now.

by Dini-D-Alum on Apr 17, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly.....

got to love the honeymoon period……

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Apr 17, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I thought the same thing....

I remember how giddy everyone was over BCG. I feel Cal will work it out and be our coach for a long time. I just hope I’m not wrong. I don’t want to look back at this post and sigh…

Sorry, usually I’m a lot more positive, just the vibe I got reading this. (Its great BTW.)

by scfcats on Apr 17, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure ...

… we’ll all find plenty to criticize when things go badly. And they will go badly from time to time.

But hey, why not enjoy the moment? We can always revert to being “the Miserables” when the time comes. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Missed it yesterday

I will anxiously await a link.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 17, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Caller

There was lady who called in that was really funny. She was 75 and celebrated her 50th wedding anniversary on weds. Cal asked how long she had been watching the cats and she told him she started by watching the radio. She thanked Cal for “being in our lives”. It was great.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Apr 17, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aww...

that is so sweet…..And only in KY

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 17, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Up on UKATHLETICS.COM

The show is there. Terrific stuff. Go to Ukathletics.com, Media, Free Audio, and choose the Live Events tab….it’s down near the bottom on an item called “Men’s Basketball.”

by bewilliams21 on Apr 17, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I knew he was the coach but it hadn't sunk in

Hearing him talk with Tom Leach made my neanderthal brain realize this new reality is really real.

by from_left_to_right_on_your_radio_dial on Apr 17, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

So. Awesome.

The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Apr 17, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems Like This Hire

is very much akin to the Saban hire at Alabama. A match made in heaven. Both the coach and the fan base have a high level of expectations and passion.

Like Saban did, I think high expectations may not be reached in year 1, but year 2 should definitely see some big gains by Calipari. Better chance of year 1 success though because you can turn around a bball program faster than fball program.

by accsecblog on Apr 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think ...

… that is pretty much right. Saban is a markedly contrasting personality to Calipari, but the reactions of the two fan bases seems very similar.

I have said, and continue to say that Alabama football fans are the only true kindred spirits to Kentucky fans in all of the SEC.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coach Cal

sure knows how to market. He sold me, though that wasn’t hard. Already liked the guy. He handled things they way he was expected to, seeing this is KY, we all know how that is….lol… And a marketer the whole way through. Gotta love this coach..
Just Curious… How many have pre-ordered his book? …..I would start a poll, but I’m headed towards Thunder. See ya there!!!

I know I will have a lot of reading to go through when I return….But have to enjoy time with the grandboys…..Someone has to make sure they are always Wildcat fans….Have fun all…

Blue, there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 17, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ...

… it’s easy to sell somebody who can’t wait to buy what you’re selling. :-)

But there will come a time, trust me, when we will be much harder for Coach Cal to sell. It is inevitable.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Secretary

the UT fan is dying right now because I am listening to the broadcast on my laptop….lol
Poor child has been having nightmares about rappers in orange and white plaid coats….lol

Remember, were having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 17, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Link not working right

I got frame only on first try, comments from Rich Brooks on second try. BTW, please check the “open in new window” box.

by hoboat33 on Apr 17, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops!

Sorry wrong link — although interesting piece on Brooks and preparation for NFL. Try this.

by Wild Weasel on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's up at Florida?

While Cal is feeling our love, things seem to be unraveling a bit for Billy D

Tyus transfering

by jeffy on Apr 17, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

they’re going to be hurting next year, especially if Calathes stays in the draft. Florida has gradually gone down hill ever since their championships and now the hill seems to be getting a little steeper.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.

by the spork on Apr 17, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw that earlier...

Checked out a Florida blog to see what they were saying about it. They just had the link to Goodman’s blog story and “This is bad.”

by ben-p on Apr 17, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good question

You figure that Donovan will try to snatch up a point guard, so he’ll be hustling the same guys that we are interested in…

by jeffy on Apr 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

They just don’t give a damn about basketball. At least someone was bright enough to judge it as “this is bad”.

by hoboat33 on Apr 17, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

It appears more and more that Florida is not going to be able to capitalize on those back to back national titles. Billy’s salary appears larger and larger by the day.

by accsecblog on Apr 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lost quite a few guys in the last year

Tyus,Lucas,Chaney,Speights,possibly Calathes just off the top of my head.

They only have 10 scholarships filled next season if Calathes leave now so they have 3 open to spend.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes.

Thats a lot of rides, for good or ill. Donovan could get involved with some of Cal’s recruits. That would be an interesting test of power.

You know that it’s going to happen, and those of you inclined to write off Donovan (if there are any of you out there :-)) should reconsider. He is a formidable recruiter.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At Least

they will still have that little Parsons girl.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 18, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Apr 18, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better Players, More Patience And ...

… shorter practices, infusion of energy but it’ll take a while. Good piece in The Sporting News.

by Wild Weasel on Apr 17, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm ...
While he knows his hiring after a wildly successful run at Memphis has generated the kind of buzz around the Wildcats not seen since Pitino bolted for the NBA 12 years ago, Calipari realizes he can’t undo a decade of decline overnight.

I’m inclined to disagree with this part. I don’t think UK has undergone a decade of decline so much as a decade of under-achievement. Smith failed to reach the Final Four after his championship year despite having two teams ranked in the top two in the final AP poll and one team get beat in overtime in the Great Eight.

At least one of those teams should have reached the Final Four, but they didn’t. Now the last four years, I think it is hard to argue that we have not been in decline.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chart It

As a day trader of sorts I live and die by analyzing charts and if you chart the performance of UK BB over the last decade+ there is a quite discernible and defined line of decline with a couple of peaks but a moving average always top left to bottom right.

by Wild Weasel on Apr 17, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Math Disputes Your Bias

1998 = 35-4. #1 team.
1999 = 28-9. Top 5 team.
2000 = 23-10. Top 20 team.
2001 = 24-10. Top 10 team.
2002 = 22-10. Top 20 team.
2003 = 32-4. #1 (AP) team.
2004 = 27-5. Top 5 team.
2005 = 28-6. Top 5 team.
2006 = 22-13. NR team.
2007 = 22-12. NR team.
2008 = 18-13. NR team.
2009 = 22-14. NR team.

Undeniably UK was in serious decline under Gillispie. No doubt about it. Pathetic results.

But UK was NOT in a defined line of decline under his predecessor. Simple, grade school math:

35 W. 28 W. 23 W. 24 W. 22 W. 32 W. 27 W. 28 W. 22 W. 22 W. Do the math.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irrelevant to me.

I wrote about my perception, and moving averages are nothing more than another way to make statistics tell the tale someone wants them to tell. You can take any particular slice of time and show a “decline” or an advance. I could take ten-year stretches out of Rupp’s tenure and show declines. Meaningless.

The last four years represent an actual decline. Before that, it was just peaks and valleys, as you would expect from any team. That’s my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 17, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not A Random Selection

You’re correct regarding choosing a pre-determined “particular slice of time” just to make a point but that misses the context in this instance. The writer chose the time period because it was fundamental to the comparison of time span between Pitino’s departure and Calipari’s arrival, and then made a judgment on the trend of the program. I defy anyone to chart — even using season total wins which is only one of several metrics — UK BB in the relevant time period without showing downward trend.

by Wild Weasel on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since you are the one making/supporting the claim of a decline

I would argue that the burden of proof is on you to show that is indeed the case, and not on someone who disagrees with the statement. If you really care so much about this issue (and it appears you do as you never miss a chance to poke at it) I suggest you write a fanpost and lay out all of your evidence for all to see and stop making vague illusions to an ambiguous decline without providing even the slightest bit of evidence for support.

I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra

by JLeverenz on Apr 18, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2003 Through 2005 = Upward Trend

87-15 = 85.3% those years. #1 W-L record in Div I basketball.

How can that fit into steady decline?

Ups and downs. Very much like Pitino has experienced at Louisville. Or Joe Hall experienced at UK. Even Adolph Rupp in the last 15 to 20 years of his UK career. Ups and downs for all.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 18, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UK WAS Declining From 2006 Thru 2009 (No Doubt)

UK was NOT declining from 1998 through 2005. No doubt.

Was UK declining from 1975 through 1984 under Joe Hall? Nope. Same % as 1998 – 2005.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UK declined this decade

UK has lost more games this decade than any other.And we have declined in the post season,comparing the previous decade.

90’s
90-91 probation
92 Elite 8
93 Final Four
94 Second Round
95 Elite 8
96 National Champs
97 Final Four
98 National Champs
99 Elite 8

Now for 2000

00 Second round
01 Sweet 16
02 Sweet 16
03 Elite 8
04 Second round
05 Elite 8
06 Second round
07 Second round
08 First round
09 NIT

How is this not a decline from the previous decade?

by -Zoso- on Apr 18, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ups And Downs

Perhaps you missed the 1960’s – 70’s – 80’s decades?

Except for 0 FF appearances, the 2000’s are closer to those 3 decades than you might think.

And YES there was considerable decline at UK in the Gillispie era, even from the last 2 years of the prior coach.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

60's,70's and 80's

The “except for 0 FF’s” is a HUGE difference between those decades. If memory serves,there were 4 FF’s and a National Championship during those three decades. At least one FF per decade should be the the standard. Didn’t have that in the 2000’s.

by maysvilleblue on Apr 18, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Why I Said "Except For 0 FF"

SEC titles, SECT championships, etc. Each of those 4 decades had them.

Games W per season, NCAA games W, etc. More similar than U might think.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Making the comparison is mute

Without FF’s or NC’s,there is no comaprison. SEC and SECT titles are fine but FF’s should always be the goal and a decade without it makes the 2000’s a lost decade in my opinion.

by maysvilleblue on Apr 18, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed FF Are Important

UK made 1 FF each in 60’s and 80’s. Not great decades by any stretch of imagination.

2000’s were comparable but not quite as good. The 2008 and 2009 results (40-27) were quite a drop-off from 2000 thru 2007 (200-70) though.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...how many times

…do we have to have this argument?

by markanderin on Apr 18, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've heard it enough myself... lol

let’s move on and enjoy the bright, bright future….

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Apr 18, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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