Georgia 90, Kentucky 85: Postmortem
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 10:48 PM EST
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This is the ghost of Truzenzuex. The corporeal Truzenzuzex has spread himself on the wind, and passed into memory.
Congratulations to the Georgia Bulldogs on a magnificent victory. They had absolutely nothing to play for but pride, and that was apparently all they needed to beat a completely feckless Kentucky team tonight. It wasn't that UK played bad -- statistics will probably say we played OK. But Georgia was terrific, and they earned a great victory tonight. Sadly, I doubt anyone in Georgia will notice, so it falls on me to sing their praises. Great job, Dawgs. Well done.
And now comes the hard part.
I could sit here and type all night and not get everything dealt with, so I'm not even going to try. I am just going to write a lament -- a lament for a team that could have been, a lament for one of the worst seasons I can remember no matter what happens next, and a lament for the state of the Big Blue Nation. It is in shambles, there is nothing left but wreckage. The recriminations will terrible, the reaction, swift.
I consider myself a mature person, and even though I shout and curse during games, I try to show restraint and class no matter what the outcome. It would be helpful if everyone else in the BBN would eschew their righteous anger and join me, but I fully expect that will not happen. For those who cannot control themselves, I pray you go elsewhere. For those who can, please join me in a moment of silence for a season which once looked promising, but now cannot be rescued, even by a miracle run in the SEC tournament.
I don't know who to feel worse for -- Patrick Patterson or Jared Carter. Carter gets the unfortunate distinction of being the senior who was honored on one of Kentucky's most ignominious nights. I don't mean my comments to demean or minimize the impressive and praiseworthy efforts of the Bulldogs. But hopefully, Georgia fans reading this will understand what was on the line, what the Georgia team had done, and what needed to happen for Kentucky to rescue the season.
I said a few days back that I retained no hopes for this season, and that is so. This loss finds me completely numb and impervious to pain. If someone brought in a knife and cut off one of my limbs, I would scarcely notice. This season has been something I hope to never be able to remember in my dotage. Not Alzheimer's, mind you, but a little dementia might be a good thing.
I don't know how Billy Gillispie recovers from this. I know Kentucky cannot fire him after two years without doing more damage to the program, and frankly, I don't think he deserves to be fired. But those who desire to get rid of him now have a strong case. I don't agree, but my arguments have sadly been reduced to, "It just ain't right to fire somebody after two years." That's it.
I'm not going to review what the team did, or the things that happened. They are pretty much irrelevant. There comes a time when the only thing that matters is the outcome, and this is one of those times. For all the players, the ones who played hard and the ones who did not, it is sackcloth and ashes. For the Big Blue Nation, it is self-flagellation for the foreseeable future. The players get off lucky. My back is already bloody.
It's difficult to explain what it's like being a blogger in this time. I can honestly say that if I could ethically do it, I would abandon this blog for at least two months, maybe more. But I can't, and it wouldn't be right, not only to SB Nation, but to all those who have come to stand and defend a fan's right not to be continuously subjected to hateful invective, and to rationally discuss the Wildcats, however deep and bottomless the pit may seem. Right now, it looks like we'll all be falling forever through the dark ...
Tomorrow, I'm sure my perspective will be better. I am confident of it. Perhaps this is a karmic burden that UK somehow accumulated in the 1990's that we have not yet properly worked off. Perhaps it is Tubby Smith praying to JoBu that UK fans suffer the misery many of them inflicted on him at times. Perhaps it is Rick Pitino asking the Pope to pray for a little Big Blue misery. Perhaps I'm just making stuff up, but that's what I do.
Anyway, discuss to your heart's content, but do remember my rules of civility. I will not relax them just because all of you are as miserable as I. I'll leave you with this -- I think we have fairly earned what we have coming from the press and media. Steel yourselves for the worst, because if you suppose this is it, you are engaging in wishful thinking.
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1979 And 2009
30 years apart, maybe history improves itself.
UK came from nowhere to almost W the SECT 30 years ago.
Somehow, maybe a repeat performance is possible.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 4, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
(BTW, I meant this in response to Tru’s comment in the game thread. I do not mean this as a gloat-y UT fan at all. Honestly, I’d rather see UK in the tournament. Sorry if it reads otherwise.)
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No problem, man.
I know you for the class act that you are.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
But I also know that this is not the time to risk any confusion over something like that.
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
Gotcha.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also didn't have any problem with it
I wasn’t sure what you were referring to, exactly, but I knew you’re heart was in the right place ;-)
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
by JLeverenz on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sad
I am so disappointed. At the beginning of this season, for the first time in a few years, I had hope that we could be a player on the national stage. With luck, a few good bounces, make a tourney run. Now, it is another lost March and watching teams that I do not like (UL, Duke, UNC) playing for the gold. This has to end sometime, doesn’t it.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I suppose ...
… we’ll now have to suffer through a North Carolina NC.
or worse … a Traitor Rick schadenfreudefest.
Woe is me.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't think UNC will win
they don’t play defense and that’s not going to suddenly change in the last 6 games.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
by JLeverenz on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But it’s Hansbrough! (sp?) How can ESPN UNC not win?
;-)
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just upped in my mouth.
Need bourbon for cleansing. Be back.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
Thanks for making me smile. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Never give up...
… a lot of people really enjoy what you do here, Tru. Things will get better eventually, either with Billy G or without him. (Personally, I think it’ll have to be the latter.)
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by Gatorpilot on Mar 4, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… I guess I can’t take anything out on you guys.
It’ll be the battle of the “who cares?” on Saturday, I guess. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
I just want it to be over. Maybe we can get Tim Tebow on the hoops team next year.
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by Gatorpilot on Mar 4, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know Tim Tebow counsels Billy Donovan....
right after he is done counting to infinity…..J/K
:))
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by SevenRings on Mar 4, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You put Tebow out there; we'll put Eric Berry out there!
And basketball will never be the same. ;-)
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Id pay good mney
to watch that
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Mar 4, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hooper
don’t you just love Eric Berry. I love that kid! His demeanor actually reminds me of Patrick Patterson. Just a cool kid. He was the only bright spot in a horrible UT season.
by tenken on Mar 5, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
The great thing is that he’s so well-composed off the field. Setting his performances aside, he’s the kind of kid you love to have representing the university.
by Hooper on Mar 5, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh
and I do believe he might be in running next year for the Heisman.
by tenken on Mar 5, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Both on the Heisman running and on the possibility of leaving. He’s probably a top-10 guy, barring any disasters, and that’s really hard to turn down. I think the new staff would fully support that as well; he would then be a selling pitch on the recruiting trail (early to the NFL! come here! woo!).
And I’ll truncate here as well to avoid further threadjacking.
by Hooper on Mar 5, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. You'd ...
… probably win another national championship if you just made him the guy that towels off the deck after players fall down. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been a trying season
Actually, it’s been a trying two-thirds-conference season. I’m with you Tru, I don’t have any emotion left for this team. I didn’t have any for the LSU game and I don’t have any tonight. I’m disappointed and sad they lost, but it’s an “intellectual” disappointment without any emotion if that makes any sense.
I wasn’t crazy about the BCG hire two years ago, but last season showed me enough to believe he could be a good coach. He still might, but the utter lack of progress and accompanying collapse of this team has thrown that into serious doubt.
I mentioned this at the end of the game thread, but I still think UK can get a bid without winning the tournament. I’m not sure I would take any joy in that, but it would extend the streak and that’s really the only thing left worth shooting for.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
by JLeverenz on Mar 4, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coach said to Tom
after the game that he would not throw his people under the bus, but the next question he throws several of them under the bus by name. What’s that about?
by catmax on Mar 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I give up.
What’s that about? :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was
BCG getting pelted by bottles after the game was over? I saw that on KSR and wanted to come to level headed site to get an answer
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No idea.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't even get KSR to download.
They must be in meltdown over there.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have ...
… a much more robust infrastructure here.
I almost regret that …
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robust. HA.
Our members are much older and can’t type fast enough to melt the place down. Myself included.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that as well
“I won’t blame my players Tom, I won’t do it.”
“Well, Perry wasn’t rebounding… Josh got in there and got lost… Mike got beat…”
I was confused.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am gonna hop off here and watch a movie I just got from NetFlix....
Ironically it is called Traitor
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on Mar 4, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Karma?
:-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to add too much at this time, but I do have a question for you basketball experts.
If the loser of the Florida/Kentucky game were to win the SEC tourney, would that guarantee that the winner of the Florida/Kentucky game would miss the NCAA tourney? (I.e. if Kentucky won on Sunday but Florida won the SEC tourney, would that guarantee UK’s absence, even if they went all the way to the final round in the tournament?)
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I suppose that I can answer that
as soon as I figure out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kentucky
and Florida’s only chance to go dancing is to make the finals. If they both made it to the finals then I would say that they are both in. No matter who lost but honestly I think UK has a chance to not make it all if we don’t win the tourney.. We have lost 7 out 10 and that is awful.
by tenken on Mar 5, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Painful
Season but my goodness…tonight was horrendous. I am with Tru on this one though…you just don’t fire a man after two years. The damage done to UK this season would only be magnified by the firing of Billy G. Who do you get to replace him anyway?
Give him one more year…same old crap next year…get him gone.
by ukfan4sure on Mar 4, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll stand my ground with him till we get somewhat a complete team(i.e. dedicated, solid PG)
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, to be clear here.
You are saying four years. Even if no NCAA this year or next year?
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Four years is a fair number, unless,
there is gross mismanagement. A repeat year of this year’s fiasco would qualify.
by hoboat33 on Mar 5, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would have been very different with Jasper on the team.. Can't put that blame on Coach.
However, we are justified in our expectation that coach should have done better with this team.
by khlim2 on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It should have
been different. I don’t think any one of us can fully know the internal actions that caused the collapse of this team. I am confident of internal damages. Whether or not it was Billy G. , I don’t know. I am willing to ride with him for at least one more season before hanging him in effigy.
by ukfan4sure on Mar 4, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just keep wondering......what caused the collapse????
….We were 5-0 in SEC play and confidence was riding high!…..just….stunned
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Well, I have no idea what to say. Can we play UT 16 times? We might win then.
I can’t explain it, I’m afraid. UT is a good team, we beat them like they made a pass at our collective mothers.
But we can’t beat the worst team in the SEC at home.
I think this is the Twilight Zone.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we can play UT
16 times in bball in exchange for letting them play us 12 games in football……
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
We’re just starting to get into this basketball thing, now…
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
But you look like SEC East winners to me, if you can handle USC.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damnedest thing I've ever seen ...
… in 35+ years as a Wildcat fan.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TRU
if you can stick it out, i will stand with you.
just hope the ugliness will not get too bad – and i know it will not with you in charge.
if anything, i do believe this loss just might pull us together as we circle the wagons against the national media. afterall, this is a family issue, a bbn issue and they can just stay OUT….
I do agree with you that unfortunately all us BCG “supporters” are left with is that you just cannot fire a coach after 2 years without “cause”
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Aw, man ...
… I’ll be here. I can’t abandon my peeps. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please
dont leave me, Tru. I am realisticc. Two more years and I will relent….
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not ...
… going anywhere. Just a little hyperbole. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
had no doubt you would be here
was just letting you know i was kidding on the game thread about abandoning the blogs….
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally admire the passion of the people on this board.
Many fanbases would put their heads down and sulk after a bad loss. And while there’s some obvious frustration here, moreso it shows your passion.
UK will be back. And maybe still this year. They are an SEC Tournament run away from getting hot and being a troublesome first round foe.
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by PJS on Mar 4, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, PJS.
Nice of you to say.
I must admit, I don’t feel anything right now. I’m not mad, I’m not anything really. Just numb.
Whatever happens, happens. If we win the tourney, I’m not convinced right now that I will care.
But I might. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure you will. And there'll be like 25,000 comments on your post mortem.
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by PJS on Mar 4, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Well, we do have a lot of fans unhappy fans. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
Tonight I didn’t curse, didn’t yell, didn’t bang my hands on the side of my chair…..just sat there……disbelief
by btcoop71 on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Picked a bad day to start a Curse Cup
Several at my office are trying to curb their cursing, so I started a cup at the office..5 cents per offending occurance…we are donating the proceeds to a local children’s home..
Attened the game last night…need to just get the checkbook out after that one!!
by cpacat on Mar 5, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue
Sorry, reminded me of Airplane
by btcoop71 on Mar 5, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see people throw stuff at Coach last night?
by bluecrip on Mar 5, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They would have had to throw something the size of a VW...
for me to see it from where I was sitting:)
by cpacat on Mar 6, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious!
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So at least we've confirmed the fans were not throwing automobiles...that's good.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 7, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would have been a good week to go to Wed night church
Then you wouldnt have had to see that train wreck in person.
by TrueBlue92 on Mar 5, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll vouch for that
Glad I was at church last night!
by Acdixon on Mar 5, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I was numb...
…unfortunately I don’t have the proper chemistry (either natural or artificial).
I’m extremely frustrated (like most) at how this season has turned. At this point, at least in my mind, all signs point to the Coach. People who are still trying pin this on Tubby’s recruiting aren’t being fair-minded. Our talent level is on par with the rest of the conference, if not a little higher yet we basically have split all of our games.
For me, this season is over and I’m looking towards next year.
Certainly, Gillispie deserves another year to see what he can do and then the jury.
by Clandestine on Mar 5, 2009 7:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Only Way I See Now...
Is to win the SEC tournament. We need to beat Florida for the sake of our pride, but that will no longer get us in. We cannot fire Billy after 2 seasons, and I know there will be calls for it.
To do that at this juncture would guarantee the demise of the program even further. We do know that Orton and Hood come next year, and Ferguson the next. He was complaining about the lack of another post presence. IF Patterson stays to finish what he started, we will have that. Hood will give us another good wing player. I have seen him play several times, and I do think he is the real deal. Point will again be the question, not to mention when will we actually guard someone on the perimeter.
We will get by this at some point, because we have no choice. Florida next and then play the tournament at maximum effort. There is no longer anything to lose, and we have to win it to be in it….
by JKW19742004 on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good comment.
Welcome to the blog.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tru
I love ya bud………in a Kentucky brother-sister way. I have throughly enjoyed being on this website. I have felt at home here and I appreciate you so much because you are classy. I love your post. I feel your pain. I think many of us just don’t know where to turn right now. We want to support Coach because well he is part of Kentucky. I still love him and think he is a good coach but I just don’t know what to thnk at this point. I am not that upset right now. I am sick at my stomach but I am not in tears. My tears came after LSU. What does that say? Its like a bad relationship in where you sad its over but you know it was over a long time ago. I love BG. I think he could make a tourney run and make it to the elite eight or even the sweet sixteen and salvage the season but that isnt’ likely. This team has lost its will to win. I truly feel for Coach right now and the team. We must all realize that Coach probably feels worse then anyone. We need to realize he is human. They are too. I have had a winless season in my girls league and let me tell you that no one is more upset then I am right now. All the preperation it takes and the emotions take a toll on you and I only have 3rd and 4th grade girls. My personal is not good. I have taught them all that I can, but it doesn’t take away my feeling like a big fat failure mulitply that times 1000 for BG. Its a hard time. None of us have invested what he has or those guys have. I am just sad so very very sad right now for my childhood idols. Love to all my Kentucky brethern.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reciprocated. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love ya bud………in a Kentucky brother-sister way.
So uh… are we talking in a “Mountains of eastern Kentucky” kind of way… or more of a traditional metro Louisville kind of way?!!?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, goodnight all.
Get some good rest and enjoy the imminent spring weather.
by Hooper on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Later. Thanks for the commiseration.
Good luck.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will Billy G survive this?
Even at the height of the Tubby bashing, it was never as bad as what Billy G will face tonight and tomorrow.
by btcoop71 on Mar 4, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he
will this year…next year he will not if it doesn’t get turned around.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to call the Saul Smith era "The Dark Ages"
What the #*@& do we call this?
by btcoop71 on Mar 4, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Saul Smith Era (1998-2001)
110-33, NCAA title, 3 SEC titles, 3 SECT championships.
Not So Dark Ages.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 5, 2009 6:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wrote a letter to Tubby
the summer before Saul took over at point. I urged him to start Saul over JP. I did this because of the hustle and effort he displayed when coming in off the bench. I will say that he did a good job as Forty’s stats back up.
I don’t think Tubby said, Hey this guy from Arkansas says I should start my son, I better do as he wishes. Hopefully he saw that there was support for his son to start.
In that vein I suggest we as supportive fans write a letter to BCG and let him know that we still support him and would like to see Galloway start at the point next year.
Right now I’m just waiting for this season to end so I can stop talking/thinking about it. :)
Of course, if the boys somehow caught fire I’ll still tune in to watch.
Oh, and the girls are here in my town playing in the SEC Women’s Tourney. Going to go over to Alltel to check em out. They play Georgia…..I won’t even say it.
GO BIG BLUE!!!
by bluecrip on Mar 5, 2009 7:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a big boy.
He can handle it, I expect.
Although, I bet he isn’t looking forward to it. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I
would not want to be in his situation. I feel for him. These are the times I wish he was married. It helps to have that support.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
These are times I wish I knew how to contact him.
I could TOTALLY help in that support area.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But how does your husband feel about that...
ROFL
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And you know... they do have that "Ladies Clinic" or whatever it was...
It was a special clinic on basketball for women. It cost some money to attend, but Billy G taught it himself…
You should definitely look into it!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You must really be mad about the game
Not only does Billy G get yelled at and booed by the fans for not making the NCAA tourney… But then has to go home and get yelled at for leaving dirty clothes on the floor the toilet seat down, too. That’s harsh.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He
could TOTALLY leave the toilet seat up here. ;)
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont care
I LOVE BCG!
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 5, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love UK
but not enough to profess my love for BCG. I am however going to email him tonight.
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 5, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What address are you going to use?
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 5, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure it is gonna work, but I figure it goes to the AD anyway so someone can send it to him. It worked when I mailed Tubby :)
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 5, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Address
I work at a Kentucky university and that is how our email addresses go. May work. I will try as well. Thanks.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 5, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got it
from uky.edus people search. Kinda easy to use :)
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 5, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to thank him
for being a class act for the years he was here.
And something much more selfish ;/
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 5, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Still Do
He (and Gillispie, I’m sure) have E-Mail addresses that go directly to them.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 5, 2009 6:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leave the toilet seat up
Tink I got so tickled at comment! I felt the same way until I went to the bathroom in the early morning hours in the dark and practically fell into the bowl when I sat. I was so po’d!
by kykat51 on Mar 5, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Does anyone have a real explanation for why we play so badly at Rupp? I am glad our games from here on out are on the road. We may be better off there than at home.
by JKW19742004 on Mar 4, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was a combination ...
… of just lack of effort, and a really ridiculous game by Georgia.
We have no idea, right now, how to win. You go out and put a team on its heels early, and they stay down. You let them hang in there, and they get up off the deck and kick the crap out of you.
This is basketball (or, hell, sports) 101.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i keep going back to one question
how do teams come into rupp and shoot the lights out (USC, MSU, UGA)? and at ole miss it was the same thing.
i know some of them were open, but they were not all open.
and i do believe we play some tough defense. maybe i am in denial?
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Karma.
Has to be. All those great seasons, we are just laboring under a Karmic burden. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a combination ...
Well said – short and to the point!
by BewilderedBill on Mar 5, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Impressed....and not
Let me start by saying that I’m an avid reader of KSR and have checked this blog occasionally. Tonight I switch. I am beyond impressed at the relative rationality of both the post (Tru) and the comments I’ve read. Good stuff.
The only thing I can think after this game is this question:
“Are we that much more talented than Georgia that we should expect to beat them 10 times out of 10?” Also, “how good do you think UNC would be if they started Hansbrough, Ellington, Porter, Harris, and Stevenson?”
I don’t mean to knock our players , but realism demands it. I think our great expectations being kentucky fans cause us to drastically overestimate the talent level on this team.
by lexvegas on Mar 4, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… You would think that with 2 potential All-Americans, we could handle the #211 team in the nation.
Just sayin’.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"how good do you think UNC would be if they started Hansbrough, Ellington, Porter, Harris, and Stevenson?"
hmmmmm….I just don’t know.
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not much better,
if any than UK right now. Problem is, they have not allowed their program to get to that level. We have.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
level
UNC “allowed” their program to go lower than this, if I recall correctly
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a good comparison if you are a BCG fan.
They fired that coach after two years.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3 Years
Doherty was 53-43 in 2001-02-03.
8-20 in 2002.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 5, 2009 6:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And National Coach of the Year his first season
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just Sayin
I know that my tag line is “I believe in Billy G” and I know that in many of your minds that makes me an “idiot” but as DEVESTATED as I am bu this loss to a “bottom feeding team” that had yet to win a road game, Georgia won the SEC tourney last year and who the hell would have expected that??? Kentucky could totally come out and acomplish that. I dont care. No matter what your opinions of me. It has been TWO years and this team has totally looked weak in areas that I feel that our Coach cant control. Argue if you will I DO NOT CARE. I am just saying that a SEC tourney win is not out of our realm. I still believe in this team and I still believe in our COACH. Please, do not call me names. It is my opinion that we have been let down this year, but I do NOT feel that that liability lies solely on our Coach.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I deleted that comment ...
… and warned the user.
We could win the SEC tourney. But that would be cold comfort after the way this team has played, I’m afraid.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry Tru
I wish that I could just jump on the bandwaggon, but I just cant. I’m sorry. Thanks for defending me though. Not sure at this point if I am worth it or not….
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
your
feeling are no less valid then everyone else’s feelings.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not
but I do feel so totally alone in STILL supporting BCG. Thanks though – you are kind.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I support him
It’s not fair to jump off the BCG bandwagon after two building years. Let him get more of his own recruits in, and then jump off if it does not get better. He is a fine coach, and I hope that whatever it is to make that translate to success at UK happens for him
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God bless you.
I hope that you realize that you are in the minority. That is a tough place to be – believe me.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also supported
Tubby, but that was for far more selfish reasons.
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 4, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, honey, for goodness sake.
You are not alone in supporting Coach Gillispie. Just because some of us don’t come on this site and spill our guts about how we feel doesn’t mean you are the only one who is in support of BCG. Just take a deep breath and listen to Tru when he says that Billy is a big boy and he can handle the criticism and as admirable as it is, he really doesn’t need you to defend him at every turn. Honestly, he will either make or break himself and all this BCG defending isn’t going to make a difference to those who have already made up their mind – as a fan, you either have the confidence in him that he will succeed or you don’t, and as I have mentioned before, I personally don’t feel the need to comment on every negative anti-Billy comment because, really, I think that if you have the confidence in him that you say you do, you don’t need to fight every battle because in the end, his results WILL speak for themselves and you, and I, as well as countless others will be validated.
by BigSkyCat on Mar 5, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
but I DO feel that need. Dont know why, but I do.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 5, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Put me in the minority!
I like a fight! I got two peg legs, a scabbard and a bandana!!!! Let’s go pillage Aaaarrrrrbyyyy’s!!!!
I don’t have an eyepatch but I’m not expecting a night fight.
by bluecrip on Mar 5, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I have said
if things are still the same after four years, I will recant. Beware – its a VERY lonely position.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still support him
I just find it hard to believe in him…
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure you are.
We’ll all get through this. Bloody, but unbowed. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not bloody,
feel pretty bowed though. Mother in law is staying the night. She is a Cardinal fan. Ughhh. Nothing colder than a mother in law’s love.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You
and I have had our arguements but I agree with you. Perhaps you should lay out for those others out there why you think he is our Coach.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I have. I feel that Coach really loves and cares about Kentucky. The team is just not delivering for whatever reason. I feel that the coach can shoulder some of the blame for sure, but at somepoint you have to look at your players as well. It is a collaborative effort. The TEAM is not showing up and that reflects on both Coach AND players. That is how I feel. You can have all the talent in the world, but if you – as a TEAM – can not deliver it doesnt make much difference. That is where I stand. Coach is not alone in this responsibility.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
to you, but NOT to those who are already ready to fire OUR COACH. I appreciate the opportunity to make my “stance,” but feel that it does little good. People have already made up their minds. I do, reiterate, that I wish that I could contact Billy. I have already written a letter to UK athletics in support of our coach, but I feel that I should do more – so much more.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I
did that for Tubby and got a response back from Mitch himself. BG has a chance to rectify himself. He can turn it around. If he does it, he will gain the respect back. Kentucky fans love winning no matter who is coach.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got a response as well.
If only I had included a phone number with that……. lol.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want to mention this but.....
look to F-F-Fl-Flo-Florida and Donovan. For many years he had phenomenal talent but couldn’t get them to produce. Then all of a sudden he gets a group of young men who DEDICATED themselves to winning TOGETHER. They listened to their coach, played his style of play and caught lightning in a bottle.
Coach isn’t going anywhere and for all those who scream OFF WITH HIS HEAD I hope your voice goes hoarse and strep throat sets in. :)
by bluecrip on Mar 5, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also
regret our differences, for the record. Thank you for asking for my opinion.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
me
too…..we just love our Cats too much :) and it makes us passionate!
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry, Tenken
For whatever its worth.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG.
I think I am going to barf if this continues.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was not talking to you lawdog
i was talking to ten and kygirl
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about the rest of you guys...
But I’m kind of turned on right now!
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Admiration
I really admire you for sticking behind our coach, Tink.
It’s got to be an overwhelming job. I know he is trying his hardest and doing his best. Basketball is his whole life and then we have this season, and tonight. My heart goes out to him.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My heart
goes out to him too. That is part of what makes me so passionate about him. I truely believe that he believes/ You know? Its hard being the minority. I’m a big girl, though, as he is a big boy. Damn its hard though….
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is hard
The hard way’s usually the right way though.
Stick in there, don’t give up on yourself. ;)
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I believe.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Kentucky Blue Heart is Breaking
I have tried to stand by Gillispie, but no more. Please don’t blame this mess on these young men who are playing their hearts out for a coach, that hasn’t got a clue. I am no coach, but it too easy to see that everybody knows he is going to play man to man and they are ready. I think Florida will kill us unless he changes his ways. I feel so bad for the team. He is getting paid very well and deserves the criticism. He has got to go!
by JRcraig on Mar 4, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Team failure.
The coach is part of the team. Nobody performed particularly well tonight, except Georgia.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Credit has to go to GA tonight. I know we left a lot shooters open, but most teams don’t shoot as well as GA did tonight. UK didn’t play all that badly, they just got beat. It happens
by lexvegas on Mar 4, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
the problem is we have said that alot this season – maybe legit, may not be.
i think when we got to 5-0 and beat TN with meeks 54, we all got ahead of ourselves…
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I think as UK fans we let our expectations run rampant and lose touch with the ground. This team isn’t as good as we think it is, plain and simple. To paraphrase Bill Parcels, “You’re no better than your record. People say that things "oh they’re better than that 19-11 record.” No you’re not"
by lexvegas on Mar 4, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummm
ummm, I’m having trouble believing we are as good as that 19-11 record
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Most teams don't shoot as well as they have done
against UK this season. UGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
by bluecrip on Mar 5, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I`ve been looking for a positive part(s)
of the season and the only things I can think of are we still have a chance in the SEC tourney,I mean, it hasn`t even started yet and I still feel like UK is a better road team than home. And we still have a chance to sweep Tenn and Florida.
by String Music on Mar 4, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I ...
… just don’t know what to say. You are right, but … it’s like you spoke to me in Urdu. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing.
Who would have thought you could build a team that would sweep Florida and Tennessee (just assuming, go with me here) and still finish third in the east.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… we haven’t swept Florida yet …
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But if we do ...
… you do have to wonder.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
5-0, we were, 5-0 with nothin but the road in front of us...
…and some UGLY home games……BLAH
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it as simple as ...
… counting our chickens before…?
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by JandPsDad on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bless you
From your lips….
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome back, real String Music. Your nasty evil-twin caused a stir a few days ago.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Mar 5, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
I still can’t believe we lost that. I don’t know what else to say about it.
Whatever coach we have is going to need time to fill out the roster. Specifically, with a point guard. We are a few years away from being good with only freshmen point guards coming in next year and the year after.
My point is… It’s going to take a while before we’re better, folks. Let’s just strap ourselves in and manage our expectations. There is no miracle coach that can come in and make us better immediately (unless it’s John Walls’s Dad). We need to stick with coach G for 3 more years.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Remember when ...
… 20 wins in the SEC was a guaranteed ticket to the NCAAs (of course no guarantee for that…) My how times have changed in the SEC and BBN!
I wonder what people are thinking now that thought all our troubles will fade with a new coach?
Is a point guard our real issue?
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by JandPsDad on Mar 4, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Didn't get to see game
I live in NW INdiana – couldn’t see the game – did Perry show any heart tonight?
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by JandPsDad on Mar 4, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually ...
… Perry played reasonably well. Much better than lately.
He still tends to vanish for long stretches.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
He really doesn’t need to be on the floor. I think the best team we put on the floor is 3 guards and 3 forwards, but the matchups don’t allow coach to do that.
by lexvegas on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
u made me LOL, Lex...
a rarity tonite
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think that would've helped?
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by JandPsDad on Mar 4, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Showed a lot
He showed a lot of heart.
We played OK. It wasn’t dismal like the SC game, Georgia just shot the lights out from 3.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A girl posts here?
I’m so jealous.
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by PJS on Mar 4, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Many females.
We have at least 50 female members, and maybe 8 who post all the time.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont be
I’m an idiot.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I listening, telll me what you like about Billy G
by JRcraig on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have posted that many times
Just read.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I should have put that a different way.
We just lost to one the worst team in the SEC. Georgia hadn’t won on the road all year. He took out all the starters and let Georgia go on a 10-0 run! How is this not his fault?
by JRcraig on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but
the starters played their best ball of the night after coming in. they did not keep it up so whose fault is that.
just sayin….because it was a team failure
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
It was.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just remember... internet GIRL =
Guy In Real Life
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KSR IS in Meltdown Mode ..
Hence, I have decided to use my SB account to join other literate, rational folks here. They are all condemning (alternately) the coach and the players.
My feelings are that I thought this would be a long season before it started, and that has been true. We have no point play, Patterson has no help from any other physical players, and it really takes 3/4 years to rebuild a program. And, make no mistake about it we were in rebuild mode. I do like what we have coming in. We will be better next year ( I am assuming that Patterson and Meeks stay), and I think a lot of the guys who are here now won’t be when practice starts next season. I think at least 3 will transfer as they no realistic chance of recovering from this year, and have pretty much worn out the welcome at the ranch.
Anyway, I do appreciate the chance to be here with people who actually might know basketball and keep their sanity …..
by JKW19742004 on Mar 4, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sanity is overrated.
We are all just dead at the moment. Welcome though.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Frost
“A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the pointy of doubtful sanity.”
by bluecrip on Mar 5, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what we do.
Sometimes, (like tonight) it is a real exercise in self-discipline.
But that’s what we do. We keep our heads, we talk to each other like adults, and we respect each other.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!
I used to be an avid KSR reader, but I’ve come to realize that the place is full of nut-jobs…including Jones. I want sanity.
by lexvegas on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoy Matt and the other posters...its the members that ruin the site
by DeadHeadCat on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys are funny
But the comments section is ghetto.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TOTALLY agree
I NEVER post there – my self-esteem cant handle it. Its getting hard enough here ,and this is an “easy” crowd.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
give TRU credit
i am sure he would love to be deep into his bourbon, but he is ever vigilent……
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
will we make it through the week without
Tru using the term “singularity?”
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 4, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Maybe.
Although the mind fairly boggles at the potential usages …
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I may have to reconsider...
….my position on keeping the coach. As I have stated numerous times, the over riding factor on keeping Gillispie is to prevent the program from imploding. I think we are there now.
It was alarming to watch this team to lose to a team ranked below 200 at Rupp on Senior Night on a game they absolutely had to win. There is no foreseeable reason why this could have or did happen….and I think (conjecture here) there has got to be something happening that is not readily apparent behind the scenes. I think the coach and the staff is in complete disarray…the team certainly is playing that way.
I also listened to the coach’s postgame show and it was very concerning. It appears that he is not handling the pressure well at all. Tomorrow and Friday will be unbelievably difficult…unlike anything we have seen. We are entering uncharted waters here.
To all the posters here….I greatly admire your manners and level headedness….it will be needed these next few days.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hoze
arent’ you glad you didn’t get rid of Rick though?
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the better comparison is UNC a few years ago with Daugherty.
…and that did’t turn out too badly
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We
don’t have a losing season. He did.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
Admitedly, I may be way off….and it is conjecture…but there has to be reasons we can’t see for a team to reverse direction like this team. I can’t readily recall anything like it with a program like UK. I mean they started the conference schedule 5-0 and looked strong doing it.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is
There’s no coach Roy Williams waiting in the wings for the UK job. That’s the difference.
Billy G’s our guy, we need to give him his 4-5 years and then see.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Says who.
Our “Roy Williams” may be someone that is not at one of the top 3 or 4 schools now. Pitino was not even in college ball when we got him Tubby was at Georgia. We don’t have to get a coach that has won a title somewhere else.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the
whole point is that BG may be our Roy Williams. We just don’t know yet.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree.
Good girl! You continue to make me proud!
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BCG is our guy right now.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Providence Friars. Rick Pitino coach............
…final four with Billy Donovan
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh..
“Their” Roy Williams WAS at one of the top 3 or 4 schools. That’s what makes him the Roy Williams.
There may be a better coach, there may not, but it’s incomparable.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
the Roy Williams situation was rather unique
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 4, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great point.
That is why this is so difficult….stating the obvious I guess.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like living ...
… in interesting times.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
In a weird way, I think these tough times could be good for the UK fan base. i remember being in rupp during the first year of probation and the couple years after, when our expectations were lower. We weren’t the best team, but damn we appreciated what we had.
by lexvegas on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point
The UK fanbase is totally out of control. The booing, yelling at the players to shoot, etc., must stop. It doesn’t help. A lot of the fans (not all) really need an attitude adjustment.
It’s hard that it has to come to this, but these things have a way of working themselves out. If the powers that be DO make a mistake and fire Billy G, then UK will be much worse and eventually the bad fans will be forced to adjust (or go root for the filthy cards), and I’ll say good riddance.
by EEWildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"the booing, yelling,...."
Might help explain our home woes. Our fans are making our players nervous – too much pressure at home.
Where’s Dr. Phil? ;-)
by hoboat33 on Mar 5, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Careful Hoze
I would hate to have to “break up”with you.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not saying FIRE the coach right now.
I am saying that I think it should now be considered…..fortuneately there is the conference play. However, past performance in pressure situations hasn’t played well for the team….and the pressure will be unbelievable.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just sayin
CAREFUL. I have been a big advesary for you. Dont make me regret it.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tru
Don’t you feel as if there has to be some internal problems on this team. I can’t come up with no other reason for a lack of development, either individually or collectively.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That has to go without saying I'm afraid.......
…thae question is…What is the cause??
by teambeam on Mar 4, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There could be.
Shoot, I don’t know. If I had to hazard a guess, I would say, “yes.”
You just don’t see teams self-destruct like this very often without some kind of internal problem. Who or what is the problem? Your guess is as good as mine.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
beginning to feel that way
but how about the aj situation. he leaves and the team votes him back. wasn’t the liggins vegas situation the same way – he came back by vote?
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only wild theories
….like BCG is a coaching genius and he simply has bigger fish to fry than “this season.”
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 4, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy
the “next season” argument. Coming into this year, he did not expect to have Pat next season and wanted to get all he could from this group.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying I buying
I’m just reduced to grasping straws
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 4, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a theory all right....
…but if it’s intentional then Coach doesn’t understand how things work here in Kentucky. (Either that or he’s 100% confident that the AD will keep him around.)
by Clandestine on Mar 5, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep your head up, Tru
This too shall pass.
by JCCW Jerry on Mar 4, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
I will. Just my way of getting the frustration out. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good players are coming
like Hood and Orton. I think everyone is nervous that Meeks and Pat will jump at the NBA.
We are almost a good team. We covered our weaknesses with a bandaid and youngsters have taken longer to step up. Miller is coming along. If Meeks and Pat stay, I’m optimistic.
by cthom on Mar 4, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If there is a bright side to this season ...
… it is that if Patterson and Meeks stay, UK should be a really tough team next year.
If not, I’m moving over to the Dark Side. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, no ...
… I mean the FAR BILLY Dark Side. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong ...
… with KSR. Good folks there. Tough for commenters. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I
like KSR. I take the good and the bad. I have learned just to ignore that bad.
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I
Like Matt Jones or whoever it is that runs the site, and the Fake Gimel Martinez is a pretty funny guy. I just try to stay away from the comments.
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 4, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KSR is nice as long as you don't read the comments
Well, that and Matt Jones’ Obama man-love…..
by btcoop71 on Mar 5, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I
will join with you. Oh gosh I hate to think of next year without them
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They will be back.
I am just unsure if we will have anyone that knows how to pass them the ball.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
[.......open arms.....]
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh......darn
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Mar 4, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't believe
you guys in the eastern time zone are still up and typing.
by wklawdog on Mar 4, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm just about ...
… to raise the white flag. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet Tru
Please
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
luckily
I am on central time………does anyone know how Rupp was after the game?? Did they boo him?
by tenken on Mar 4, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did fans
really boo Billy and actually throw things at him??
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea.
Hope not.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if they did
that is the bad karma…..
by memphis wildcat on Mar 4, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If they did
they deserve the losses.
I believe in Billy G.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 4, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's
the rumor going around now. I’m all for booing. That just hurts the pride. I’m not all for getting pelted at work. That’s insane
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 4, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs