UK Basketball: Pondering the Possibilities of Calipari
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 12:49 AM EDT
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The Difference
No, nothing is "officially official," but my, how the mood of the Bluegrass can change: From sullen and downtrodden at the thought of a protracted search for a new head coach for Kentucky, to cautious elation at the mere mention of Memphis coach John Calipari's name as a potential candidate for the job.
And with the possible forthcoming announcement that Calipari will be the new head coach at UK, many fans, and media members alike are hailing the potential hire as not a home run, but rather a grand slam.
I would have to agree, but of course the determining factor in whether a Calipari hire is a grand slam selection won't be known for at least another year: If one recalls, Billy Gillispie coming to UK two years ago was greeted with praise and happy days are here again... not so fast my friend ...
But in Calipari's case, his body of work is much more substantial than Gillispie's, and his media savvy and fan friendly nature (i.e. he's not allergic to speaking to various organizations and boosters) are much more apparent than the previous UK coach -- Calipari has been a head coach either at the NCAA Division I level, or the NBA, since 1988 (he assisted his mentor, Larry Brown, with the Philadelphia 76ers in 2000). Contrast that bountiful experience with the fact that Gillispie had a total of five years experience as a head coach before taking the UK job, and one surely recognizes the difference between potential, and ...
... achievement: Calipari has won at the highest level of collegiate competition -- The NCAA Tournament: Calipari sports an impressive 25-11 record (.694) when it matters most, two Final Fours ('96, '08), and three Elite Eight appearances ('95, '06, '07). For those keeping count at home, that's a minimum of an Elite Eight run in '95, '96, '06, '07, and '08. In between his '96 Final Four with UMass and his Elite Eight with Memphis in '06, Calipari was occupied with coaching the New Jersey Nets, and rebuilding a moribund Memphis program.
Overall, his lifetime winning percentage of .761 (445-140) falls in line with what one would expect from a potential Big Blue head coach.
Dribble-Drive Motion Offense
Some may, or may not know that Calipari employs the Dribble-Drive Motion Offense. This offense can best be described thusly:
"The Dribble-Drive Motion is first and foremost a motion offense, complete with its own discipline, rules, and philosophy. The basic philosophy is the ball-handler tries to push the ball for a layup. If there is no help, he continues for a layup. If there is help, he finds the open man for either a shot, if on the perimeter, or a dump-off to the post. Driving lanes are created by great spacing and constant hunting of open areas for kick-outs."
Very similar to the Spread Offense in football.
Although Calipari did not invent this style of offense, the credit for that goes to former Pepperdine head coach Vance Walberg, but he has perfected its execution. So much so that many people now refer to the Dribble-Drive as the "Memphis Attack."
*This type of offense is not completely foreign to UK fans. Former UK head coach Rick Pitino used a variation of the Dribble-Drive Motion in his eight years in Lexington. He enjoyed a fair amount of success, if I remember correctly.
If Calipari matriculates to UK, it should be an exciting, fun style of basketball to watch. The combination of UK's tradition and facilities, along with this player-friendly offense, should ensure that Calipari has his pick of top-flight high school talent. Nearly as important; UK fans will once again have a fast-paced, high octane offense running the hardwood of Rupp Arena.
Potential Tag-a-Longs
There has been much speculation and conjecture around who Calipari may bring with him if he comes to UK. No one has any solid answers at this point, but let's take a look at the possibilities:
- Current Memphis Tiger players, and former UK targets, sophomore Roburt Sallie and freshman Wes Witherspoon, have reportedly expressed interest in following Calipari to UK, if he decides to take the job. Of course, Memphis would have to release them to come to UK, and even then, they would not be eligible until the 2010-'11 season (I'm not crazy about current or signed players leaving one school, to follow a coach to his new job -- Ethically ambiguous is the best way to describe how I feel about this practice).
- ESPN overall #1 player in the country Xavier Henry, a 6'6," 210 lb shooting guard reportedly has an "out" clause in the Letter of Intent he signed with the Tigers in the fall. This clause would force Memphis to release Henry if Calipari decides to leave the school. One can only speculate that Henry would then come to UK with Calipari, if that is how this high-drama ends. Henry's older brother C. J. Henry, a former #17 draft pick of the New York Yankees, is currently on the Memphis roster.
- DeMarcus Cousins, a one time UAB commitment, verballed to Memphis on March 8 of this year. The 6'9" 250 lb power forward is listed as the #2 overall Rivals.com high school prospect. Obviously, he may choose to reconsider his verbal commitment if Calipari comes to UK.
- Rivals.com overall #1, John Wall, a 6'4" 184 lb point guard, who earlier committed to Baylor, but later backed-off that verbal, has reportedly been the apple of Calipari's eye for some time now. The "love" has been requited according to most sources, but Duke, Kansas, and Baylor are still players for the probable one-and-done performer.
- 2009 prospect Eric Bledsoe, another guard (6'0" 160 lbs), also lists Memphis as one of his potential destinations. Bledsoe is rated as the #12 point guard in his class, and the #67 player overall by Rivals.
Who knows how all of this will play out if Calipari comes to Kentucky, but one thing is for certain, the UK roster will most likely receive a considerable upgrade for the '09-'10 basketball season. Of course, retaining current UK signees Daniel Orton, Jon Hood, and G. J. Vilarino should be a priority for any new coach.
It Ain't About the Benjamin's
I'm sure Calipari will take every bit of UK's reported eight-year, 35-million dollar offer, but the money, or more accurately, the mountain of money awaiting him in Lexington, will not be the primary reason he takes the job, if he indeed accepts.
No. Calipari will take the job because he knows that winning at Kentucky is unlike winning anywhere else in the country. The "Roman Empire" of college basketball has a habit of deifying it's college basketball successes, and he knows that he can succeed wildly at UK.
He's thinking like us: "If I can bring in great talent to Memphis, what can I do at UK?: I'll have the best facilities in the Craft Center and Rupp Arena, the most passionate fans, and endless opportunities to be adored."
As it stands now, Calipari is a big fish in a small pond, competing with the Memphis Grizzlies for the public's attention and adoration. Conversely, Kentucky gives him the best opportunity to showcase his coaching acumen on the biggest stage in college basketball. What more can one ask for? Simply put ...
... it's a priceless opportunity.
Thanks for reading, and Go Mitch, get your MAN!
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Good Read
Two years ago this was the man I wanted for the job.
UL Football Fan/UK Basketball Fan ~ Shreveport Louisiana
by The White Mandingo on Mar 31, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice Ken
For me, the difference in excitement this time is that Calipari will come to UK with much more legitimacy than BCG. His track record is much more impressive. I wanted Cal last time around so suffice it say my excitment level is sky high.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on Mar 31, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As they say you hit the nail on the HEAD!
by lccat on Mar 31, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks WM and Seven
We must think alike — Two years ago my 1a was Cal, and my 1b was Gillispie.
I can’t help but think that he would set the college BB world on fire if he came to UK.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the proverbial
mushroom cloud over all college basketball
by uk1982 on Mar 31, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Vandy fan
I get the feeling wins over you guys are about to be a lot harder to come by if this is true.
By the way, pretty much everybody I know in Memphis thinks Calipari is already gone.
by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 31, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, don't sell Stallings short.
You have who is probably the most underrated coach in the SEC (well, along with Stansbury).
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not selling Stallings short
Just saying that the rest of us are scared that Kentucky is about to be, you know, Kentucky again.
by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About damn time!
Lets not completely F it up this time....
by floundringaround on Mar 31, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Granted
Some of us were scared that would happen when Gillispie was hired, so what the hell do we know?
by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not many of us...
I thought Gillispie was unlikely to be successful at Kentucky when he was hired. Frankly, for my team’s own benefit, I was hoping he’d be back a third year, at least. Cal’s not good news.
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by Gatorpilot on Mar 31, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ken well written as usual
Great explanation of the dribble drive motion offense. I also agree that Cal is driven to meet the many new challenges that UK will bring him. I also believe that Cal is up to the challenges.
However, I have to disagree with your comments about the money. In my opinion, it is always about the money for all but the rarest of situations. 35 million reasons, the highest paid college coach in the country, is a heck of a motivator.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You may be right
But for the reasons I stated above, I feel that he would come to UK regardless of the money, but that’s just my opinion.
Money is certainly the root and motivating factor in most decisions of this nature, on that we can agree.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy G Interview from today coming up on ESPN SportsCenter in a moment 10:23 p.m. PST
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just watched it
He can come off so likeable if he wants.
It’s a shame it didn’t work out.
As someone in the mainstream media said — “He blew the chance of a lifetime.” — That may or may not be true, but I do wish him well.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know he has to be in shock right now (at least a little)
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on Mar 31, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you read my response to your post on the last thread, Seven?
Just curious.
I think he looked like a goon.
by thefakebillyG on Mar 31, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read it...maybe a little harsh
it was Billy being Billy
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on Mar 31, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just said...
during the ESPN interview, “the worst advice is bad advice” thanks for that revelation, haha
by KentuckyKate on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe what heard was "the worst vice is bad advice". I could of misunderstood.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He mant to say "the worst vice is ADvice." He used that line in his post-termination press conference.
In true Gillispie style, he bungled the line in front of the national media. Ha.
I wish the best for him.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Mar 31, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should add that I think then he attributed the quote to Bill Self
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Mar 31, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome, Ken.
Love all the links. You obviously spent more than a half hour on this one. : )
I haven’t really said all that much about Calipari up to this point as I’m a bit nervous to say anything because I thought the last guy was the right guy for the UK job, but alas, I was sorely mistaken and although I, along with what appears to be the rest of the BBN am quite excited about what Calipari might potentially bring to the table, I will hold my loud and boisterous applause until the final announcement.
But, even though I haven’t been really vocal about Calipari, I do see our potential for next season as phenomenal with him and because of that possible fact — I went ahead and already purchased tickets to the first round of the 2010 NCAA tourney being held in Houston (we have family there) — YAY! Yes, I know I’m getting a little bit ahead of myself here, but hey, it’s something to look forward to and its part of the fun of being a fan. I will, of course, attend regardless, I just really hope our boys (our team and our new coach) make the field of 65 and draw Houston. : )
by BigSkyCat on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks BSC and oldcat
You have a right to be nervous about any potential new BB coach. The job carries with it huge responsibilities … and worrying if the guy in charge is capable of doing the job the right way is to be expected, especially when there are a few question marks surrounding the target’s past.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Job
as all ways Ken. I don’t know if I will sleep again tonight!
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Having been lucky enough
in my lifetime to Hear,see or listen to all of the Cats coaches. I’m now ready to turn another page in our glotious history. GO BIG BLUE!
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't
think the spell checker is coming. Don’t worry about it. It happens to all of us.
Also, yes, I am ready to look forward and turn the page, living in the past just isn’t healthy — good things are just around the corner, right? : )
by BigSkyCat on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I didn't
respond. I’ve been meaning to congratulate you on your new job. Nice to read your posts.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you use Google Chrome
as a browser it has a spell checker built into it. I think Mozilla does as well.
Lets not completely F it up this time....
by floundringaround on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the ESPN.com article
that says he is “sleeping on the offer” tonight….does this make anyone else nervous also? I hope that he is sleeping with thoughts of BBN in his head, Patterson, Meeks, Orton, Wall, Cousins, etc……anyone else dreaming of that too?? :)
by Doctor Mike on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me = nervous
I just keep thinking about past letdowns with Tubby, Billy, and for some reason Billy Donoavan’s Orlando deal and keep thinking…OHNONOTAGAIN…man I hope I am wrong, but the longer this goes on, the more pessimistic I become
by Thestache on Mar 31, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I barely can (but I'm also working tonight) :)
But I agree, I couldn’t sleep if I were him either.
by Doctor Mike on Mar 31, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the feeling
I spent 36 years working swing shift. They won’t kill you,but some days you feel like it.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy G Interview with Dykes
Continued high road, same as his presser on Saturday-to his credit. I do wish him well.
I am going to preface my next comment that I am a native Kentuckian. Both of parents
still live in Kentucky are from tobacco farmer stock. Their parents (my grandparents) are from very humble origins in eastern Kentucky. I also have 3 brother who still live in Kentucky as well.
I understand his strategy to be at his best with the media right now. I am not attacking the fine people of Kentucky when I write that I have a difficult time with Billy G’s Gomer Pyle ACT. That goofy grin is difficult to swallow.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I commented on this in the last thread...
I basically said that BCG is an idiot and his career is ruined if he doesn’t have a job lined up in the next 72 hours.
I thought it was a good post. ;-)
by thefakebillyG on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure he is an idiot. He does come off as goofy in this situation. Glad I did not offend you.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way is anyone
offended. Everyone has any opinion.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't offend.
He got PWNED.
simple as that.
by thefakebillyG on Mar 31, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone has been ignoring him!
I think He is 2 sheets to the wind!!
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pwned = owned
It’s a viral online misspelling made famous by the game Warcraft.
sorry.
by thefakebillyG on Mar 31, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
=P pwn (and pwned) have been around a lot longer than that =P
by schizm42 on Mar 31, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a new job opening
looks like Wazzu’s Bennett is headed to Virginia – I think Wazzu is a great fit for BCG – about as far away from the Bluegrass as possible. Shove him WEST to the Pac NW and let him play around up there…
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 31, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy G
Billy G’s style may work in the PAC-10 but he will have to contend with UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St. Looks like he would be a cellar dweller in the PAC 10
by champcat24 on Mar 31, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blue Oregon, I completely agree with your observations.
Our commonwealth does not need a goober as its highest profile and highest paid employee. Billy even mucked up his recent TV interview by bungling his little “vice/advice” colloquialism. That kind of stuff bothered me a lot worse than his slow rebuilding and mishandling of the media.
by Ken Pomeroy on Mar 31, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
I agree with you. If He was smarter than that He would have signed the contract and played the game.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't have to
explain your Kin. Moat of us came up poor. Theres no better people in this state than dirt farmers both east and western Ky.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wrote a similar description after his presser on Saturday and offended
at least one person. They thought I was just an out of state urban person who does not understand
Kentucky folk. I love Kentucky and Kentuckians.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I grew up at the end of a dirt road in Butler County, with no phone and no indoor toilet.
My poverty credentials are second to none! While I certainly agree that the good folks who were my neighbors then are better folks than I have found anywhere else, I also think strongly that our coach should not look and sound like he grew up with me at the end of that dirt road.
We are already the brunt of enough jokes. As I have said before, there is a big difference between country lawyer and country bumpkin. Think Senator Sam Ervin and not Gomer Pyle.
by Ken Pomeroy on Mar 31, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of Funny
The Louisville women are going to the FInal Four and not the mens team. They beat Maryland earlier tonight.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
by SevenRings on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maryland
but that Maryland Women’s coached EARNED her money!
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 31, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great read but here's my question...
I get that the Craft Center would certainly be considered state of the art, but can we honestly say that Rupp would be so?
by TXCat on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sports Center will be reshowing the BCG interview shortly....
Just letting everyone know.
by thefakebillyG on Mar 31, 2009 2:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I'm the only one who feels sorry for the guy.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still feel sorry for the guy getting harassed down the hallways by the media . . .that wasnt cool
I
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
by Kuhnnie on Mar 31, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the only one.
But life goes on. He will be fine, and so will UK.
I still think UK handled the situation extremely poorly. But then again, Gillispie can give them six million degrees of misery if he feels inclined to do so. I hope not, though. I would like for this messy divorce to end as amicably as possible from this point on.
And to everyone else — Keep your comments about Gillispie respectful. I don’t allow Tubby bashing here, and I’m not going to allow Gillispie bashing.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horrible situation
Anytime someone is fired, it is a horrible situation. As well, I feel sorry for Coach G and wish him the best in the future. I honestly belief that he was completely overwhelmed by the scope of the Big Blue Nation. I honestly belief he handled it the best way that he knew. As for the media, they were simply doing their jobs. My question is: Where was the security at? I could not chase Coach G down the hall of the Craft Center so why was the media allowed to do this?
by champcat24 on Mar 31, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for that Tru.
I know I was getting a little tired of the “Billy sure is an idiot” or “he’ll be a cellar dwellar in the PAC10” comments.
The man gave his heart and soul to the BBN for two years. Give him respect.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Mar 31, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also feel sorry ....
for him in that he was not cut out for the job. It wasn’t his fault he was a mule hired to be Secretariat. I hope that the AD learned from this and makes sure Calipari is advised and guided. Keep the positives and make sure the past concerns stay in the past.
by jpbluekat on Mar 31, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
your not. I certainly do. I think alot of us do actually. I really wanted him to work out. This guy eats and lives basketball alot like us. It just didn’t work out but I think alot of us feel badly that it didn’t. Maybe he was too much like us I don’t know. I really do like the guys passion for basketball. I hope he finds a great job somewhere and does really well.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Ken,
you are certainly not the only one. I was actually going to write something in detail, but then thought better of it, due to the fact that dwelling on his unfortunate departure is really not all that productive, for him or for us.
But, I too felt sorry for Gilispie — for about 5 minutes, and then I realized that is probably 4 1/2 minutes longer than he felt sorry for himself. I am sad that he didn’t work out for us as I really thought he had the whole package, and even though he didn’t end up being the right guy for UK, I still think he is a good person. I still believe he will do good things, they will just be elsewhere. I will probably even check in on him (virtually, of course) from time to time and I hope nothing but the best for the man.
Go ’Cats! : )
by BigSkyCat on Mar 31, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Blue Oregon
My family dates back to the mid 18th century for Kentucky…I am generational and bleed Blue…and I too live in Oregon (Silverton to be exact)…dad wanted to be a forest ranger…where are you located???
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 funny
I know there are some UK alums floating around Portland…but it’s good to see a fellow Oregonian/Kentuckian who bleeds the right shade of blue
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same to you! Right on ! I fly my kentucky flags and I painted my house Kentucky Blue
only one on the block :) My wife (from Chicago) was mortified at first, then got used to it.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we fly
the commonwealth flag right below ol glory…confuses a ton of people because my mom is Greek…so we have that one on the front porch flag holder…
my ex-wife never understood the “Kentucky” room…her first time meeting my parents was the Duke/UK game in 92…she couldn’t understand why a grown man would openly cry over a basketball game…had to explain to her it wasn’t about the game, but those 4 seniors
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh my!!
I still cannot talk about those guys and that game without crying. My husband will get me talking about it in front of our friends just to show people how passionate I am about Kentucky.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Catching Calipari has made me remember how I felt for the Unforgettables.
Same kind of emotion — WE ARE BACK!
by Ken Pomeroy on Mar 31, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My truck is
Kentucky blue with UK license plat and basketball on radio ant.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do trucks come in any other color ? :)
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not many
true wildcat blue in western Ky.
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am laughing at the flag confusion. I have a UK american flag that most folks
just don’t “get”. As you know everything is green and yellow around the U of O
neighboor hood.
92 game was very painful memory. We had a Kentucky visitor out in Eugene during that game. We all went out for many drinks after that game. I have to admit that I hate those
reminders on SportsCenter from that game. However, I do also very fondly remember how Jeff Sheppard lead the charge in 1996. He will always be in my top 5 players forever because of that game against Duke.
by blue oregon on Mar 31, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not as much
going on to night. Everyone is worn out. Think I’ll cave in> night all
by oldcat70 on Mar 31, 2009 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one last shot before i sign off
went to a bar near my alma mater (Willamette University) during an Oregon Duck game… Kentucky was playing Arkansas (it was 93 spring…with the wacky claw uni’s)… the bar (The Ram Pub) didn’t have ESPN 2 (it was fairly new) so I asked the manager to buy the satellite add-on package so I could watch the game…he agreed and I gave him my credit card…the game is on in 10 minutes…the place is packed with yellow and green and I have my one little TV with UK/Arkansas…these big football bruiser duck fans come in and ask the waitress to change my TV to the duck game…she goes up to get the remote, but the manager says no…he comes down to their table and tells them that the fella behind them has bought that TV for the night…telling them that I paid for the bar to buy the ESPN 2 feed…wearing my Kentucky Basketball t-shirt they chuckled…one could be heard saying that he had “heard Kentucky fans were rabid”….the manager comes up to me, gives me my credit card and tells me it’s on the house…anyone willing to buy a cable channel for a night to watch his team play shouldn’t have to pay…even got a couple of free drinks out of the deal…flew to vegas the next day…
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 2:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what it's all about. . .
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
by Kuhnnie on Mar 31, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And That My Friends
is why the UK job is the best in the world. No fan like a UK fan, anywhere or everywhere!
by Bluegilla on Mar 31, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
been thinking of writing my fave personal UK stories (seeing as how I grew up in Oregon, it certainly gives me a different perspective on things)…like how I convinced my dad to buy one of those monstrous satellite dishes (you know, the NASA versions) when UK went scandal in the late 80’s…so we could pick up the local feeds…used to call the station in Kentucky and get their satellite info so we could program it into ours and pickup the games…
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 3:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice Piece
I hope that we dont get so good we get bored with 20 point wins. But I am ready to dominate again. I cant wait to beat NC at Chapel Hill
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
by Kuhnnie on Mar 31, 2009 3:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait
to not lose a home game to a team with more initials than coaches
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that period quickly becomes an old memory
Im ready to dominate with Cal and his talented recruits
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
by Kuhnnie on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or the 98 ex-wife jinx
during that stretch…my wife begun watching each game with me (starting with the Duke game) and by half-time I kicked her out of the house (“go shopping…spend money but just leave”)…then she wanted to watch the Stanford game…same thing…“get out”…and then Utah…each time she was watching the game till half-time…I kicked her out of the house to go shopping…UK comes back to win…that was the year my father had his stroke and by the end of the Utah game, my dad lying in a hospital bed at our home, the last time we watched a game together…so yes…UK basketball is more than just basketball to plenty of us…it’s family…and we always want our family to do good
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 3:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UK fans are officially crazy.
Up at 4 AM just to see if anything new has occurred, even though I know it hasn’t….
Lets not completely F it up this time....
by floundringaround on Mar 31, 2009 3:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was really only refering to myself...
yeah, I’m crazy. But aren’t we all?
Lets not completely F it up this time....
by floundringaround on Mar 31, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...tongue in cheek response really
during signing periods I tend to not sleep either..
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
only 1 a.m. here…and I have insomnia…as well as two cracked ribs (so sleeping is really out of the question)
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 4:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one of my 20 month twin girls
likes to head butt daddy on the chest…thankfully the other likes to watch UK game with daddy and actually claps when the Cats score…
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch with the ribs....
gotta love the kids getting involved though
Lets not completely F it up this time....
by floundringaround on Mar 31, 2009 4:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
New news maybe?
Mentions a booster saying that he think Calipari is gone.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/2009/03/31/20090331bkcnb0331.html
Lets not completely F it up this time....
by floundringaround on Mar 31, 2009 4:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
funny how
arizona is saying how they had calipari all but “wrapped” up before UK came calling…
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 4:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice piece Ken
Think some of our current players will be asked to give up a year of scholarship to make room for incoming players? Like stevenson or harris>?
Off to work ….. No more bloggin
by ukcris on Mar 31, 2009 4:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought about including some thoughts on the schollie situation ..
… but since I have absolutely no idea who’s coming and who’s going, I thought the idea futile.
One thing I’ve learned over the years is that scholarship questions always seem to get worked out. I trust, if Calipari takes the gig, that the same will happen here.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
pretty loaded roster as it stands now (keeping Meeks and Patterson of course) with the addition of Orton and Hood (as I assume they may enjoy playing for Calipari as much as they would have enjoyed playing for BCG)
whomever decides to come…just wish they stay longer than one year…
by fincity on Mar 31, 2009 5:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Happening Anytime Soon
Mitch is not going to say a thing until Cal has actually signed the contract. Many things can happen simultaneously but with two sides involved it wont be done in a day. That day doesn’t start until Cal says yes.
Kick back and enjoy being the biggest fish in the ocean.
by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 31, 2009 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably A Must Do
After the BCG M of Understanding I suspect one of the first things to be done would be to have a signed contract in hand.
by Bluegilla on Mar 31, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excitement
The past 24 hours have been exciting to say the least. Consider the possibilities with JC. Style of play, new lineup, media/PR compatibility. All this excitement reminds us how much that was missing last year. There was tension, disappointment, bland interaction with the press by BG. If the deal goes through, remember, ‘The Waitng is the Hardest Part" (thanks TP & the HB). I can’t wait to be excited about UK basketball again. I think JC will bring that excitement back to Lexington. And that will be a beautiful thing!
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...Hunter S. Thompson
by UK72CatFan on Mar 31, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Day being unproductive
apologies to my boss…
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Apologies to the taxpayers….
Umm Nevermind
by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 31, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have an incredibly stupid question.
Where does the money come from to pay the coach?
All I’ve heard for the past 12-18 hours are people saying “Well…..How much is tuition going to go up this year?” I’d love to fire back with something.
by uk1982 on Mar 31, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Money
I suspect ticket prices may go up but there’s a lot of horse money around Lexington and donations to the University may increase substantially. JMO.
Wonder what Coach Brooks is thinking these days?
by Bluegilla on Mar 31, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankful
For Pops it is all about his staff and accomplishment. He already has one field named after him, eventually he might have another. What more could a coach want?
by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 31, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of this money is going
to come from the new ESPN contract. SEC going to ESPN for week night and weekend broadcasts is a much sweeter deal for the schools.
Remember, were having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 31, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
money to pay for the coach
it TOTALLY separate then regualr UK funds. Believe me I am a UK empoyee! UK basketball money is even totally didfferent then the UK Athletics. 1. Rupp Arena ticket sales and season ticket holders. I have season tickets upper level, but the lower level season ticket holder pay extra. Not sure how much extra but they make a nice little donation. 2. Also there is the K-Fund that people donate money too. Don’t know how much it costs to be a K-Fund member. 3. You have all kinds of promotions and companys in Lex and across the state that use ky basketball and coach with advterising. They brings in money. 4. Private donations form private donors.
by bigbluebigfan on Mar 31, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
money for UK BBall
I don’t expect it to be long before UK is building a new stadium if they get Cal
Rupp doesn’t give UK priority over anyone else… if Ice Capades wants the date, they get the date
When I was @ UK getting my MBA, the HOCKEY team made more money for each game than UK… they drew 2500-3500/game!
They paid $50K/game for the arena….got 1/2 concessions, all of the programs, all of the merchandising
UK paid $150K/game, 22K+ per game, NO concessions, no programs and only royalties on merchandising!!!
Lexington will have to think HARD … but UK could build an arena for 30K and be the biggest around and still set fan records even for VMI/Gardiner-Webb games
UK BBall and UK Football get earmarked funds. The boosters’ monies cannot go to the school for general purposes…. the SEC monies go to the team first, and then Title IX second – meaning they pay for the female, non-revenue producing sports before general scholarship. The Chevy player of the game stuff is EARMARKED for the General Scholarship fund, not the Athletic funds.
BCS monies go to the school for Athletics First…then can be disbursed. The more SEC teams that get BCS bids, the more money each SEC school makes.
But the whole school benefits from any athletic program that is self-sufficient like UK…
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 31, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks bigbluebigfan!
I just get tired of hearing everyone say “wonder how much tuition will go up” blah blah blah. I knew it was probably something to the effect of what you said, but didn’t exactly know how it all worked. Thanks for the explanation!
I just don’t like it when people run off at the mouth, and talk about things they know NOTHING about….pet peeve of mine!
by uk1982 on Mar 31, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know for sure
about UK but my husband attended UL (not a UL fan, just a graduate) and while technically the athletic department’s budget is seperate from the “school” part there was still an “athletics fee” that we had to pay. Suddenly showed up when they hired Pitino…hmm…
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
the athletics department makes it’s money from tickets/concessions/leasing out their buildings for events. But, just like any other university department they appeal to their alumni for donations. UK just happens to have some really really generous alumni who donate to the athletics program.
Perhaps we should call Ashley Judd and ask her to chip in a little more?
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember having to pay that fee
in 1999. Here I am in music school thinking, why do I have to pay this, I’m a fat tuba player, it’s pretty clear that I am never going to be athletic in my life :/
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 31, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is new
“headline: Calipari is Kentucky’s New Coach
University of Memphis men’s basketball coach John Calipari will accept the head coaching job at the University of Kentucky, according to Memphis television report.”
dateline: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:38am EDT
by StillCatwoman on Mar 31, 2009 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hope it is new, but
based on what i am hearing, seems early still…..
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, and I can't find anyone else saying this.
by StillCatwoman on Mar 31, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The report came from Memphis news
on one of their 11pm broadcasts last night. Have family in Dyersburg, TN who watched it and then called me about 11:30. The reporter said his “sources” told him that UM wants to have their new guy in place within the week so they can try to hang on to some of these recruits.
Remember, were having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 31, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More media confirmations
“WHAS-TV 11 and WAVE-TV 3 are both reporting that John Calipari has accepted an offer to be the next head coach of the University of Kentucky basketball program.”
by from_left_to_right_on_your_radio_dial on Mar 31, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was posted yesterday at 4pm… not saying it isn’t true, but nothing new
by JRod1229 on Mar 31, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pessimistic AGAIN
:) :) :) Thanks JRod1229, now I am nervous, my last 4 hairs fell out, I ate 2 dozen Krispy Kreams and drank 4 pots of coffee, I am now smoking and drinking as I type ;)
AND
I am at work…this is teh suck
by Thestache on Mar 31, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops (nice catch)
if google can be wrong about its “most recent articles” I just don’t know what to believe anymore.
by from_left_to_right_on_your_radio_dial on Mar 31, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Georgia Southern position open
BCG?
Okay, no, he won’t have to go down that much.
Hey, maybe Nazr has a suggestion!
by olddoc on Mar 31, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lapides
I just listened to an interview with him on Bill King’s radio show. There were a few points that I found interesting and I had not heard yet. He said that yesterday it was a forgone conclusion that Calipari was leaving. Today that is not the case. There were two major reasons for this.
1) Members of the Kentucky media had already begun to scrutinize him and break him down. He was not a fan of this at all. Close contacts of his within the media began to warn him that the microscope will be so intense that he began to back off a little. Leave it up to our own to run a good one out of town…
2) Several of the biggest Memphis boosters were still trying to persuade him to stay in Memphis (including the founder of FedEx and the largest cotton trader in the world). That’s old news, but the interesting part was that this apparently has never been about the money. Calipari told those close to him that he would not accept a raise after this season if Memphis were to offer one (due to the economic state). When Kentucky came calling, this became a moot point and the negotiations began.
Just a little more insight for us to ponder over this morning why we all sit and wait, anxiously.
Sorry if anyone else already posted this information. It is hard to keep up with all that is going on.
by ukcat2169 on Mar 31, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised
That Calipari would be put off by the “scrutiny” he has received so far. It really doesn’t seem that harsh/negative (if anything, he’s being slurped by the media right now), and surely he expects it – the intense focus is, after all, part of the lure of Kentucky basketball.
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you read they Mark Story article?
It was pretty negative, IMHO.
(I’m not going to link it for that reason)
by EEWildcat on Mar 31, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not negative.
He asks some good questions that should be asked.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not yet! not yet!
let us keep to the plan of hire first, question later!
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree.
Rick Bozich has some opinions on the matter too, but it’s just a rehash of what we already know.
http://anythingbutgatorade.blogspot.com - yet another SEC sports blog
by Anything but Gatorade on Mar 31, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this has been brought up....
and there was nothing new and there was nothing considered wrong by the NCAA. If anything, I would think that the fact this has been brought up, including concerns by the Administration itself, is likely to make oversight of the program very stringent. The bottom line is that he has no evidence that the questions were not asked. Previous stories seem to indicate they were and that the UK officials seem confident that they can keep anything similar from happening. Again, was there anything new that was aked? If the answer is “no”, then maybe a better question would be to the motives of the author.
by jpbluekat on Mar 31, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Story wrote...
a piece examining all of the questions surrounding Calipari (WWWes, Camby, player run-ins with the law), etc. It didn’t paint a flattering picture. And he kept asking basically if, given our history, we could afford to hire someone with these questions in his past. It was a fairly brutal piece. If this turns the tide and Calipari doesn’t come, I would hate to be Mark Story and the LHL. Of course I would hate to be associated with the Herald-Leader anyway.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LHL
Has never worried about being nice to UK. They won a Pulitzer for their coverage of the Sutton fiasco (and did uncover much of the dirt). They have been negative towards to school (IMO) since, I suppose hoping that being so will someday get them another Pulitzer.
by olddoc on Mar 31, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my first reaction was to be mad at LHL
but if Mitch Lee will not police themselves, the unfortunately that job falls to tipton/clay/story/etal
as my wife says “if you aren’t not doing something wrong, why do you care?”
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
But a lot of people are going to be hurt if this thing falls apart. Barnhart and Todd for starters. Our prestige suffers another huge blow nationwide. The Herald-Leader closes its doors due to lost of revenue (or somebody blows up the building). Man, this could get really bloody.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes -
it might have been better if the LHL at least let the ink dry on the contract first -
i am sure mitch lee would love for LHL to have to go get someone.
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and I thought it was very poor taste on Mark’s part. I really like Mark. He is a good writer. I just thought yesterday was in poor taste and honestly a shot a Cal before he inked the deal possibly putting some doubt in Cals mind. I think that is what he was going for. Yes there are questions to be addressed but we have to trust Sandy Bell on this. I do. We have been clean over twenty years and she is NOT going let that change. Mark is a Kentucky boy and fan I am sure and has some concerns. Many of us who lived through that cringe at the thought of going through that again but Mark picked the wrong time to bring it up.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm naive
but I just don’t imagine that Cal had time to be reading articles from the press about it.
Meeting with players, meeting with boosters, probably phone calls for advice to trusted advisors, talking with assistants…when would he be sitting at his computer clicking through stories?
Maybe one of his assistants watched that stuff but I just don’t think he would take that into consideration.
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
what your saying…….but I guarentee you that boosters were looking FOR EVERY reason to get him to say and it got to him somehow….those Boosters in Memphis were all over it I am sure
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you think...
that the way Coach Gillispie was treated by the media and the way Tubby was treated by many fans, it would have to at least put a question in the back of Calipari’s mind. Hell, people talk like Pitino was universally loved here, but questions were raised about him as well. It all depends on how big of a microscope you are willing to live under.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
And if you don’t want a microscope, you stay in Memphis. With great power comes great responsibility. . .
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Uncle Ben.
Another question that needs to be answered it “Who is driving this bus?” When I heard Mike Pratt was involved, I knew this would be a decision that was best for IMG first and the university second. I love Mike and respect his history here but he was placed on the search committ to represent the unofficial powers that be.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And don't forget ESPN...
They have been all in with this since it was first mentioned. They start showing the gamesnext season. Ever wonder why Vitale has so changed his tune on the Kentucky job in the past two years? Calipari to Kentucky means HUGE dividends for the Wold Wide Leader.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should read "World".
Spelling is off this morning. Trying to make sure my inmates don’t run the asylum here while I keep up with what is going on. One eye on the door and on eye on the screen. Maybe I should sent everybody home for the day, turn out the lights and hunker down in front of the screen.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure didn't like Pitino unitl 96
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I am sure the Tubby/Gillispie thing mattered
But I don’t think one article about Cal would really add any weight to that argument.
I definitely think the media/scrutiny aspect is a factor in his decision. I just don’t think this one article would have any weight.
Everyone already knows UK dissects every piece of a coach. So I can’t imagine any articles yesterday would make a difference in the decision for Calipari.
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tubby Was Treated FINE By M-O-S-T Fans
And KY media treat the Uk coach the same regardless. G no different.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 31, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Tenken
but I disagree. I would rather he bring this up BEFORE Calipari comes to UK. I am sure that the administration is checking some of these things out but the less knowledgeable fanbase have a right to know what they are possibly getting.
If Calipari can’t handle the heat then he don’t need to come in the kitchen.
by bluecrip on Mar 31, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
again…….I am not worried about UK checking on this. Mark isn’t either. We all know they will deal with al this, but Mark gave the boosters in Memphis more evidence………“see here Cal THEY ARE ALREADY picking you apart”. UK doesn’t need Mark tothe job for them.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heat
Yes, but eventually someone has to be able to come into the kitchen.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 31, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but do you want a scaredy cat? :)
by bluecrip on Mar 31, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We didnt have one before. :)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 31, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
you are so right on this. Cal is not my first, second or even third choice. But I got excited about him yesterday and if we lose him, it will be a blow to UK.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry this was for JB's post not my own :).
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
it is NOT the LHL’s job to be a cheerleader for UK. These are fair questions, and things an objective, competent journalist is required to ask.
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that they shouldn't be cheerleaders.
But if Marc Maggard ever did one thing right in his entire life, it was exposing the tactics employed by the LHL in interviewing recruits and potential recruits. There is a large difference between honest journalism and the crap they peddle. That being said, Story did ask a lot of the questions I have been asking over the last few days.
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
the dude coached the Nets…lived w/ the NY media…can it seriously be any worse. UK is passionate, but it’s not NY. He can handle it…this is his ONE shot at taking over a top 5 Collegiate program…if it’s not for him, then we will move on…can’t imagine he will blink…this is the shot these guys always want…Roy/K/Dean/Bobby K/…you only get ONE shot at this type of program and he is too smart to not recognize that…seriously…he can handle it…
by bradylteague on Mar 31, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Nets
No one in New York cares about the Nets.
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think it has ever been about the money......
Money is nice, but as my wife says, if you’re happy with what you do for living, the money doesn’t matter. I think Cal knows that he has done all he can at Memphis and wants to seek a new challenge. C-USA is NOT the SEC in any circumstance.
by CATFAN85 on Mar 31, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Lapides at Memphis station WHBQ ...
… is still sure that Calipari is gone to UK.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
24 more hours of this and I'm going to have to be committed
by btcoop71 on Mar 31, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tru...
I’m not saying it’s gonna happen, but wouldn’t it be ironic if the people who gave Coach Gillispie such a difficult time (recruiting youngsters, gameday practices, boot camp), ended up cost UK a chance at Calipari? How do you think that would impact their bottom line?
by jbt36 on Mar 31, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be surprised ...
… if that were an issue, actually, at this point.
Calipari is probably not thinking along these terms. His ego is such that he will not worry about perceived press negativism — he knows (or rather, thinks he knows) that he can handle them.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jimmy sexton is on george's show right now
he talks every tues. he is agent for fulmer, saban, tuberville,parcells, etc. interestingly he is also mike anderson’s agent.
you should hear some of the stories he has about dealing with some of his clients that are players….
pretty level headed guy
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave Baker
was interviewed by Nashville sports radio this morning and said that if it doesn’t happen today, it probably will not. Don’t know where he is getting his info.
by wklawdog on Mar 31, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think ...
… that’s informed speculation. But I also think that the longer this drags out, the more likely it is to fall apart. That’s just the nature of the beast.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scholarships
Assuming Cal comes and assuming no current Memphis players attempt to transfer…..
and assuming he Cal tries to bring his top 3 recruits (Wall, Cousins, & Henry) how could we have enough scholarships?
PG: Wall, Liggins, Vilarino / [Porter]
SG: Meeks, Henry, Galloway / [D.Williams, K.Tucker]
SF: Miller, Hood, Harris, / [Stewart]
PF: Patterson, Cousins, Pilgrim
C: Orton, Harrellson, Stevenson
That’s 19 players — with only 13 scholarships. If Porter, D.Williams, K.Tucker, & AJ Stewart leave UK (as playing time would be limited since they are fourth or fifth string), that would leave us with 15:
Then if we could get the two Kentucky boys (Miller & Hood) to walk-on (they get in-state tuition) for just one year, we would have enough scholarships. Of course, it is still possible that between Patterson/Cousins/Orton we only get 2. That would mean we would only need one walk-on.
Following the 2009-2010 season, we will lose four seniors (Meeks, Stevenson, Galloway, & Harris). We might also likely lose 2 to the NBA (possibilities include Patterson/Wall/Cousins). That frees up 6 scholarships. The walk-ons would get their scholarships back and Cal could still recruit some freshmen for 2010.
by CalipariCat on Mar 31, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't.
I think, at this point, we should just wait and see. The scholarship situation will not really allow Calipari to bring in new players unless we have large number of defections. That is just reality.
But for now, I don’t think we can speculate. There are a ton of possibilities, and I feel confident that the administration will not let Calipari come in and throw away a bunch of current players to make room for his recruits, no matter how attractive that prospect would be from a basketball standpoint.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't think you can go back on scholarship after giving it up
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Mar 31, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scholarships ...
… are year-to-year, in actual fact. It can be non-renewed.
But it never happens except for extraordinary circumstances. These don’t qualify.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know
they sure feel like extraordinary circumstances….. :)
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well............
I went to bed early last night. Real early! I was emotionally exhausted last night. Plus staying up and blogging till almost three didn’t help either. I woke up at 5:30 reached over grabbed my phone and got on ESPN without even getting up. Yes I am obsessed but now rested :). But I hated to hear that he was sleeping on it. I am very nervous. My Memphis friends said that he played with NC state but honestly I don’t even remember this. So i am not as sure as I was yesterday.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he did NOT play with NC State
nearly this much….no comparison
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pulled
the same exact move with my phone this morning. Didn’t even have the contacts in yet. Just rolled over and went straight to the worldwide leader.
by ukcat2169 on Mar 31, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its sad huh :)
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitt and St Johns were closer to NC State
than UK situation
by memphis wildcat on Mar 31, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we bring back DoorCam to keep everyone calm?
Or will that just make everything worse? :)
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol.....that will go down in UK folklore for sure!
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want this to happen...
I can’t take it anymore!
by JRod1229 on Mar 31, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Relax.
It will be OK, no matter what.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep you are so right on that! Kentucky will be fine!
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appears the back door cam was there because his car was parked in that parking lot.
He was too savvy to walk to his car. There were a dozen news vans.
I supposed the back door cam has lost it’s luster.
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this supense is going to cost me my job!
and in this economy, who can afford that???
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Family first.
Wildcats second. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The person who replaces you?
Gotta admit you walked right into that one. ;)
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
Gotta work. I’ll look in from time to time.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wanted
to let you guys know on ESPN 2 they are about to talk about what the Memphis Boosters are willing to do to keep Cal
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1530 Homer in Cincinnati Reporting Mike Anderson to Georgia
$2.2 Million per year.
by btcoop71 on Mar 31, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh
my……..blow to Memphis and possibly to us…….Tipton said UK still waiting
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good hire, if true
Lotta money for a program that doesn’t really care about bball, though. . .
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard John Pelphery/Travis Ford are the second choices if Cal doens't come
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
per Tipton
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Cal was sleeping on the offer
Can someone give him a wake-up call and end this already???
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can you imagine the blow our reputation will take if we are turned down AGAIN?
The UK Boosters do NOT want that to happen.
Maybe we are not praying to the Basketball Gods hard enough?
All together now!
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh beneficient Hoopsgod,
master of the round, bouncing leather ball . . .
by olddoc on Mar 31, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just sacrificed a chicken to Jobu
The floor is a mess, and my colleagues are staring at me. . .
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody drink Jobu's rum....
it’s very bad
by CATFAN85 on Mar 31, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a lot to be said for bloodletting.
GOOD PLAN!
I will find a source, ASAP!
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calipari has his own rep to think about as well
I have a hard time believing he wouldn’t take a pretty big PR hit if he backed away now.
Then again, Donovan got off mostly scot-free with the media after actually SIGNING with Orlando and then backtracking.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Radio
Currently discussing “How could he NOT take the Kentucky job?” and basically questioning his manhood if he doesn’t take it. LOL
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stranger things have happened
Stranger things have happened. The longer it takes the worse feeling I get about Coach Cal coming
by champcat24 on Mar 31, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kentucky had some funny math even before the flirtation with John Calipari. The Wildcats had one scholarship open but signed three players under Billy Gillispie, meaning there had to be attrition either through the NBA draft, transfers or scholarships not being renewed. Whoever is the new coach is likely going to have roster upheaval privileges. Remember, technically scholarships are renewable every season.
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the troll has this to add
"Talks between Kentucky and Memphis coach John Calipari have intensified and the two sides are moving closer to an agreement that could make him the highest-paid coach in the country.
According to sources close to the Tigers coach, Calipari is close to a deal that will pay him in excess of $5 million per season.
Barring any unforeseen circumstances, all signs point to the deal being completed in the next 24 hours.
“It’s a slow process,” said a source familiar with the negotiations. The same source cautioned that the process could drag out until Tuesday.
According to Scout.com, the two sides have already reached an agreement."
i've been waiting for this moment all my life...but it's not quite right.
by small balls on Mar 31, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the link, sorry.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-cbk/20090331/Goodman.033109/
i've been waiting for this moment all my life...but it's not quite right.
by small balls on Mar 31, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New live feed.
Some rainy side street on campus.
Front grill of Nissan.
Will insert toothpicks in eyelids and not miss anything!
Will keep everyone posted!
by eeluk on Mar 31, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MEMPHIS FANS ARE CRAZY!!!!
MAKING THREATS @ THE COMMERCIAL APPEAL AND ON FACEBOOK AND MYSPACE ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE CRYING OVER THE ECONOMY AND SAYING HES STUPID TO MAKE IT ABOUT $$$$ BUT LETS BE HONEST HERE,,,,,,,MEMPHIS IS NOT LEXINGTON AND HE ALSO WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING ROBBED IN LEXINGTON OR OFFERED CRACK @ EVERY CORNER
by jaxukfan on Mar 31, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ALSO........
THE ECONOMY ISNT THAT BAD………..THEY JUST WANT TO TAKE ALL OF OUR $$$$ AND KEEP US LIVING DAY TO DAY THATS EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA WANTS ERRRR I MEAN PRESIDENT PELOSI HOWEVER,,,,WHO CARES HOW BAD SHIT IS IF WE GET CALIPARI BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OBAMA CAN BLOW MW
by jaxukfan on Mar 31, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
You should lay off the coffee?
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Settle down, Beavis
The King is dead! Who is the King?
by NYCCats on Mar 31, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need TP for my bunghole!!!
My bunghole goes ra-ca-ca-ca-ca!!!!!
PS my avatar is a mug shot of a real life Beavis
by bluecrip on Mar 31, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
Stop this irrational stuff. Stop with the caps lock.
Please.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coffee red bull and cigarettes
I may not have enough for a whole day of this!May need to get some painkillers from my Doc to get through the backpain of sitting in this chair!
GO BIG BLUE!! WE WILL BE BACK!!!
by KYCATS77 on Mar 31, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any news
Does anyone have any news out of Memphis or Lexington about a press conference???
by champcat24 on Mar 31, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If UK swings
and misses then what? do they immediately go to ford?or do they try another “big” name?
GO BIG BLUE!! WE WILL BE BACK!!!
by KYCATS77 on Mar 31, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Izzo
Izzo would get us to final fours but I don’t think he would leave Mich St
by champcat24 on Mar 31, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither
But if they don’t try then we’ll never know and if their next plan is Ford then I say try HARD for Izzo. They just can’t justify getting another Big 12 coach w/ even less experience than the last one we got. It’s a gamble at best.
by ben-p on Mar 31, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
Barnhart evidently doesn’t take rejection well and his last coaching search ended up in what appeared to be a rash decision. I didn’t even know BCG was in the running until Billy D said no.
by DTharp on Mar 31, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barnhart
Barnhart said Friday that UK wanted a BIG name. However, I think Ford would be the logical backup plan
by champcat24 on Mar 31, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That may be
but I’d definitely wait to hear a “no” from Izzo first.
http://anythingbutgatorade.blogspot.com - yet another SEC sports blog
by Anything but Gatorade on Mar 31, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't do this all day
I may have to rebel. Get some fast food and eat it slow.
by olddoc on Mar 31, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's be cautious
We don’t need another wham-bam, thank-you-ma’am one-night stand, I’ll respect you in the morning, but I won’t remember your name, let’s say we’re engaged (MOU) but marriage (contract) is out of the question. We don’t need another relationship that starts like that. At least, let’s spend a long weekend together and then take take the vows before God & Everybody (aka the BBN).
All parties should take scholarships and LOIs seriously. All parties includes UK, Memphis, Calipari and the signees/players. Everybody needs to take time to assess the pros and cons of going, staying, etc. Memphis players and signees need to talk to the new Memphis coach; UK players and signees and the new coach need to talk before any decisions are made.
Calipari & Todd need to come to a clear understanding involving the verbals. I don’t think UK or Calipari should be held to Gillispie’s verbals, but I understand why others might feel differently.
In the end, let’s hope all concerned make good decisions. We need to approach these decisions like we break down a defense: be quick, but don’t hurry.
by Fortunatus on Mar 31, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
correct me if I'm wrong
But the NCAA see’s recruits as commited to the institution, not the coach. I can defintily see that point as they try to maintain the mirage of the student-athlete. I would like to see UK and the new coach honor any standing commits.
by DTharp on Mar 31, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The
way I feel about it and maybe because I have seen schools get burned on this……..you commit to a school not a coach. I don’t think any of his recruits that verballed should be allowed to come to UK without penalty. I know I am alone on this but I feel its good ethics.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe
at least one of them has a clause in their LOI that they can follow Calipari. Don’t see how they could be punished for something already in writing.
by AthKat on Mar 31, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I think in Memphis’ case it will cause them tremedous problems if these players leave. IMO, that LOI should not have even had that clause……..you commit to a school not a coach. If these players leave Memphis, it will put them in a world of trouble. I am not a TIgers fan but its not fair for Cal to take everything away from them
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I notate that in the piece -- Xavier Henry reportely has a clause in his LOI
that requires Memphis to release him without stipulations if Cal leaves Memphis.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 31, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see that argument with players who have already signed a letter of intent
But surely a verbal can’t be seen as binding enough to warrant any sort of penalty.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Verbals are non-binding on either the institution or the recruit. There is no penalty at all for not honoring one.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no penalty
but I believe there should be…..
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe ...
… although it would be difficult due to their lack of formality. It isn’t really anything more than a recruit saying “I will come if there is a scholarship” and the coach saying “we intend to hold one open for you.”
It’s hard to make something that informal punishable.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe in legal terms
BCG was acting as an agent for the school if/when he offered scholorships. Since the coach doesn’t own the team or program or school it is actually the school offering the scholorship so the offer should stand.
As far as uncommited players or verbals it would be acceptable for the new coach to not offer them a scholarship or to discuss with them the change in the program and how it affects their playing time etc.
The program needs to act as though they are on thin ice here, do what is right and give the new coach time to build a program, not worth hurting an already damaged rep by booting kids off or not giving commits scholarships.
by DTharp on Mar 31, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOI's ...
… are binding on the school and the player. The school cannot renege on a recruit who has signed an LOI.
Verbals are non-binding on either party, but for UK to renege on long-time verbals would be an ethical faux pas that would absolutely harm the program’s reputation and anger a great many fans, including this one.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But....
Was it ethical for Billy to offer schollys that weren’t “technically” available? I understand your point, but are we prepared to make the next coach (whoever it is) wait 7 years to play with a team he put together? That’s madness.
by sylvar on Mar 31, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was unethical ...
… it was unethical for Gillispie. He was still acting as an agent of the University of Kentucky, and his signature is binding upon the University.
The end.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know Tru
thats the only real problem with all of these “early” offers….it binds the program to something and someone that may have a really negative impact on the Univ in the long run
Remember, were having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Mar 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verbals Tru
Not signed players. You can’t make the new coach wait 7 or 8 years to have a team completely comprised of players he selected. Not when he is going to be expected to produce in 2 years or hit the bricks.
by sylvar on Mar 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am
I thinking about verbals then. Do you remember the Ky kid that UofL pulled his scholly then went to UK. There was a write up about it and its said it happends more then we know.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
That’s bad behavior, and that’s what should not happen at Kentucky. We don’t need to go down that road.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was that verbal commitment....not a letter of intent
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
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by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently according to the new post over at Matt’s site:
“- Along that note, the same person said that almost all of the details were finalized late Monday night. One of the major sticking points was the status of the outstanding scholarship offers for the players in the 2010 class and beyond. According to this source, Calipari said that "only one is anywhere close to a UK-level player".”
Source:
http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=16488#comments
Apparently a bit of a to do about our roster and I’ve heard it mentioned on several radio shows already this morning.
by trich on Mar 31, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know who else it happened to, once upon a time?
Tubby Smith.
If I remember the details right, he had a scholarship offer from Maryland, but then Lefty Driesell came in as the new coach and yanked it.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Legal Terms
Pitino said in LEGAL TERMS to Sosa to get the F out…find a new team
I think that 1/2 the “roster” from this year will be gone…. the bench riders will not get a framed jersey
just think about some of the people like Perry and Scherbenske… I feel bad for S but not P… they were going to ride that framed Jersey to a career with boosters…
Jarvis Walker surely had that on his mind as well…
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 31, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walk-ons really do stay on the team at the coach's pleasure, don't they?
Aren’t those guys you mention walk-ons?
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The walk-ons ...
… are not relevant.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
they are not binding…………they can be “kicked off” the team. Our Qb from my kids school went to Ole Miss and when the coach was fired we were all stressed that he would no longer be on the team. But Nutt kept him
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The walk-ons ...
… serve purely at the pleasure of the coach.
Or not.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Mar 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And more to the point...
…they don’t affect the scholarship limit.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 31, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do yall remember
that my Feldhouse(sp) gave up his scholly so it would free up one because of probabtion :) Yet another reason I love my unforgettables.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
by tenken on Mar 31, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs