Open Thread Continuation: Coach Watch Continues. Calipari Reported to be Near Deal With UK.
by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 6:09 PM EDT
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Curious
Any word or speculation on why no announcement yet? It makes me nervous that Calipari wanted to speak with Memphis boosters this afternoon.
My parents are BIG boosters and
they said the same thing that one of these posters said. Calipari is trying to get the Memphis boosters to support the assistant coach and pay him what he’s worth.
Alan - I'm out of Shape - Cutler just reported..
Alan Cutler called Cousins and got a different answer, this was just on TV – someone said here is your scoop, 99.0% and repeated it a few times then the guy who answered Cousin’s phone said, “See you in Lexington.”
This was on the 6pm news lead-in. Apparently he has a new coach to chase down hallways.
What?
…interesting news … but I’m confused. Who said “99%”, Cutler?
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
The voice who answered Cousin’s phone and in typical Cutler fashion he didn’t confirm if it was Cousins. His phone friend just said, “99% see you in Lexington”.
funny - guy in memphis is saying
rivals is reporting that cousins said john not going anywhere……
this is crazy
by memphis wildcat on Mar 30, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope some one youtubes that.
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 30, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Fascinating all around
Time for me to head out for the night. Maybe we’ll have a coach in the morning.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
ok
just watched the news……….Cal is all but gone to UK. Final details being worked out. Also wanted to say that on the radio they said that the stipulation in the contract are being worked out.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Todd
wants to keep Ky commits……that apparently an issue
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
I can see the issue...
but I’m gonna have to agree with Todd no matter the cost.
A man (or business) is only as good as their word.
GO BIG BLUE!!
by bluebloodtoo on Mar 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Todd
won’t let go of these recruits……he said no matter what. I agree with him on this
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Seems that is being debated.
"Would Calipari be willing to take the job knowing he had to give scholarships to those players? And it’s not such a small number: Dakotah Euton, Vinny Zollo, KC Ross-Miller, Dominique Ferguson and Avery.
Todd backed off earlier comments about honoring those commitments.
"I’ve got to go through that," Todd said on Monday. "That’s something I have thought about and have some concern with."
well
thanks for that! I think though that we need to keep them
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
I mean, do you draw the line somewhere though?
Like Avery, who is still 4 years away from arriving on campus?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Avery is currently...
the #1 ranked player in his class and is averaging double digits in scoring and assists and he is only a freshman. I vote we stay in touch.
as for Avery...
I think that is a non-issue. He is so far out that he could easily reassess the situation. Also, he only verballed which isn’t technically a binding contract to either party.
GO BIG BLUE!!
by bluebloodtoo on Mar 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
recruits
keep Euton, Ross-Miller and Ferguson
Zollo is ANOTHER PG and we won’t need him
Avery is a baby – let him grow up and then see where he is – glad he’s scoring 20+ pts but what if he blows out a knee?
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 30, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Zolo is a forward.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Then he is a piece of garbage.
If they start running off guys, I may start checking out the Hilltopper board.
LOI vs. Verbals
Of course it’s a matter of opinion, but until the letter is signed I believe that all parties have the right to change their mind especially if there is a coaching change. If a letter of intent has been signed, then we honor it.
wondering
wondering how long this will go on
by briangwildcatfan on Mar 30, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
did he just say that
Mashburn just said He was the key to pitino’s success
Well documented..
Pitino has said it a number of times, Mashburn was the key to our rise from the ashes!
not disagreeing
just surprised by the bluntness
I think Calimari is in.....because.....
Mitch Barnhardt is swingin’ for the fence, in a last ditch effort to save his J.o.b……And….he won’t hire a good-up-and-comer. Mitch isn’t from KY, or at least I don’t think he is? Anyway, he is afraid, and therefore will act quickly and stupidly as before, and may fail as before…….I think that Calipari is also looking to get out of CUSA, now that LVille and Marquette are no longer in that conf. He doesn’t feel respected because of the conf., and the morons on ESPN and sports media in general, saying that CUSA sucks all the time. Just my 2 cents.
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
I'm allergic to calamari.
My eyes get itchy, my head swells, and I get Mickey Mouse hands.
by mrmondaynite on Mar 30, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's all say it together...
It is pronounced, “Cal-ih-PEAR-ee”, not “Cal-ih-PAR-ee”
It took me 1.5 seasons to say Gillispie correctly, so lets get going on the right foot on this one.
Mmmm…calimari.
Likely gonna be a while.
I wouldn’t expect anything for a while. Even if they get things done, it will take some time to put the specifics together.
If anybody is looking for a laugh....
please continue watching the Memphis TV feed. The people don’t always seem to realize they are on a live feed
So...
who stays ….who goes…..who will be left standing wearing KY blue when this is done??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
have heard Porter may grad
and Liggins is contemplating transferring….any of that true?
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Really?
Come on now. How many of those kids are “Gillispie Kids”? Most of them won’t be on campus for many years. He will be coaching somewhere by then……you really think he’s going to turn his back on relationships he has already built?
Should we stick with the LOI’s? Absolutely!
Should we stick with those in the class after that? We should try
Should we stick with kids who are 4 years out? Wait and see….in my mind those aren’t solid commitments. have you heard of one of those working out yet? I haven’t.
Porter did Grad...
and I wouldn’t expect LIggins to xfer if Cal is coming to coach.
GO BIG BLUE!!
by bluebloodtoo on Mar 30, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhh... so you graduated too?
ooops… that’s what I get for repeating what i read on here earlier….
GO BIG BLUE!!
by bluebloodtoo on Mar 30, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
he is supposed to be graduating....I assume that means at the end of this semester
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
that's how I understood it...
just didn’t make that very clear I guess.
GO BIG BLUE!!
by bluebloodtoo on Mar 30, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Porter...
Porter’s problem with BCG might have been that he doesn’t live in Wildcat Lodge – he’s married and doesn’t he have a kid on the way
Liggins was going to leave due to BCG’s abuse
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 30, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be loathe to watch
PTI. Wilbon is going to have a field day with this
Thats called
the Boss saying “apologize or lose your job”
wishing
he would sorry excuse for reporter
by briangwildcatfan on Mar 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing definitive...
other than Wall has not committed to anyone yet.
GO BIG BLUE!!
by bluebloodtoo on Mar 30, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
wonder if the NCAA
would consider increasing our scholarships by 3 or 4 for 4 years???…lol
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Andy Katz article
I like his lede: “John Calipari and Kentucky inched ever closer to a deal”
It really feels like we’ve been living this out inch by inch by inch. Time take the final step.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 30, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions
If Andy Katz...
is the one that breaks this story, I will have a lot more to say about his relationship with the AD’s office later. He has been one of Coach Gillispie’s biggest detractors since he arrived here.
Vaught's Views
Sources have confirmed that the University of Kentucky has reached a deal with John Calipari to be the Wildcats’ new basketball coach.
No official announcement is scheduled today according to UK, but sources indicated Calipari will sign a $4 million per year contract anywhere in length from seven to 10 years.
"It looks like eight years is going to be the magic number," said the source.
Kentucky recruit Daniel Orton of Oklahoma has not heard from anyone at UK today about who will replace Billy Gillispie, who was fired Friday. However, his father, Larry, understands that Calipari is the likely choice.
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Makes Sense
Wouldn’t they wait for the formal announcement until Coach Cal (I like the sound of that) could get on a plane up here and be physically present.
More from Vaught
"Right now Daniel is still going to Kentucky until we get a chance to talk to Calipari," Larry Orton said based on the assumption that Calipari will be UK’s next coach.
Another source in Memphis indicated that Calipari had resigned and The Commercial Appeal, a Memphis newspaper, said Memphis guard C.J. Henry referred to Kentucky as the Notre Dame of basketball when he met with the team this morning.
Kentucky acknowledged this afternoon that it had been given permission to talk to Calipari, who took Memphis to the Final Four last year and lost to Kansas in the title game.
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Would he be willing...
to play behind Jodie Meeks? I think he was expecting to walk in and start from day 1.
I cant believe that after all Meeks has been through
that he wouldnt be willing to do whatever it took to play for a National Championship next year….hes too much of a team player
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Caliapari, per Parrish, promised to help keep Memphis' recruits together
if they hired his ex-assistant, Barbee
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 30, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It happened.
But the coaching situation was apparently not discussed. Heard that on the radio, don’t have a link.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Memphis Live Feed
I had the Live Feed in a background window, muted (the feed that was the camera on the door all day long). When I looked over at it 3 minutes ago, there was a newsman in the newsroom in front of the camera, not talking.
A voice on the feed was saying something like “he was saying that a booster said that there is no done deal.” A second voice said “should I quote ____ on it?” First voice says “no.”
This all tells me one thing....
ANYONE that ever said we were no longer a top tier program was a joke….no 2nd tier program generates this much excitement and activity over a hiring thats not done yet
Remember, were having fun now!!!
The only people ...
… that believe UK is not a top-tier program are some miserable UK fans. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Anyone think that Donovan regrets listening to Pitino now about coming??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Nah.
I think he likes where he lives. He has young kids and doesn’t want to uproot them. He makes plenty of money.
When the kids grow up, that’s when Donovan will entertain offers
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I get a strange vibe from Donovan anyway...I can't put my finger on it tho
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
As a father I can understand that....
I did the same thing….of course I was only talking about 10-15k a year….lol
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Anyone know
How many scholarships UK has available for next year?
-3 at this moment.
We won’t renew Williams, who was on a one-year deal. That means -2 Two other players have to leave for us to bring the players we have already signed and verballed. If we renege on Konner Tucker, then -1.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
VInce Per Vaughts Views
"Right now Daniel is still going to Kentucky until we get a chance to talk to Calipari," Larry Orton said based on the assumption that Calipari will be UK’s next coach.
"Imagine the bigs you could have with Patrick Patterson, Daniel, Matt Pilgrim and Perry Stevenson along with Cousins coming in. What an offense that would be," Larry Orton said. "Then you would have Jodie Meeks and maybe throw in John Wall and Nolan Dennis, who is as good as Wall. You are talking about automatic Final Four."
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
gee, maybe we could have Orton and Cousins at the same time
if only we were allowed a bunch more schollys
I Know It's Fun to Contemplate
But there’s that all important component called CHEMISTRY. Remember, we didn’t have any this year.
Larry orton sounded pretty happy when speaking to Vaught
"Imagine the bigs you could have with Patrick Patterson, Daniel, Matt Pilgrim and Perry Stevenson along with Cousins coming in. What an offense that would be," Larry Orton said. "Then you would have Jodie Meeks and maybe throw in John Wall and Nolan Dennis, who is as good as Wall. You are talking about automatic Final Four."
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 30, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If Cal comes ...
… and Orton doesn’t, I feel good we will get Cousins. I consider that an even swap.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
And if Patterson goes pro ...
… we’ll be at 13.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Tru, you really think that Patterson is gonna go?
I get the feeling he could end up looking like another KY bigman that made the same mistake
Remember, were having fun now!!!
I have no clue.
None. He seems to be saying not, but I have no clue.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Should Porter decide not to return and support his new baby it would open up another
I expect him to return tho
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Not sure why Porter would stay
He’ll be finished with school and now he has a family to support. I can’t see him playing much under Cal if that deal happens.
he could stay...
he could let his scholarship go and do “hardship” since he is married…
I think there will be someone else that will go off scholarship… look at some of the non-players
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 30, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but........
if MP thinks the team could go far into the NCAA he may want to stay just to be a part…
Not play, but be apart of a great KY year or leave and miss out.
How close is this?
is cal as close to coming as we are all hoping?or should we dial it down a notch to avoid feeling devastated?
GO BIG BLUE!! WE WILL BE BACK!!!
Patrick in a win-win situation
He’ll either be playing with Cousins, Orton or both … and will have finally have a point guard (all though untested at this level) to distribute the ball …. lots of offense for sure – but we will need defenders and good team chemistry to win a title – whoever has defense to stop Carolina’s potent offense can take the title this year … defense wins championships
How can PP go
He has never played in the NCAA tournament. I think he still wants to big on the big stage
You know if Cal comes...
he will have his guns loaded..
Radio callers are saying...
…that the players came out of the meeting with big smiles..?? Anyone else see that…?
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Does it bother people than Calipari plays no zone defense?
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 30, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
This is like Christmas!
Does anyone else agree?
It’s soo much sweeter considering all the shittyness surrounding UK basketball as of late.
I’m so happy!
the wife wants to know
where you can get those WWJCD bracelets at???
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Just wait...
…They’ll we EVERYWHERE soon…!
What
Would
John
Calipari
Do
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Yeah
This flippin rocks . Its hard to be patient and see how all this shakes out but if C foes come I cant freakin wait for next season to start.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Liggins
I hope he stays….he didn’t show much this year,many speculated reasons,but,i see a lot of potential in him and hope he gets a chance to show it.
GO BIG BLUE!! WE WILL BE BACK!!!
Class break...
main man not in meeting with Cal so nothing will be announced from that meeting until he arrives… Cal has negotiated this way with Memphis before (ie threatening to leave). This is all just the word from the campus. Class starting back in a few.
This is killing me.
I need to stay away from the ’net for the night.
You know you have an unhealthy UK obsession when this happens: Last night I had a dream (I guess this is more of a nightmare) that Doug Gottlieb was the new coach of UK.
relax deadhead....we have all lost it....lol...
btw….vince uk is selling WWJCD bracelets….better get your order in now
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Trying my best.
I just want an official confirmation. I am getting increasingly nervous that we are getting way ahead of ourselves. Lets wait until its confirmed before we start talking about the future.
cant....I have fought this all day long
It has taken over my body like a virus….lol…..but I understand your trepidation….felt the same way on my wedding day…..thought the perfect woman might call and take me away at the last second….lol
Remember, were having fun now!!!
OT: Nick Calathes will enter NBA draft
Florida’s Calathes to enter draft but won’t hire agent
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2009-03-30-florida-calathes-draft_N.htm
GBB!!!
One of the greatest lines in modern westerns..!
“Smells like someone die”
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Best Role EVER...
….by ANYONE.
It's outta my head but stuck in my mind, in time I find my spine is crooked in design.
Andy Katz says the offer to Cal is for $35 million over 8 years
That’s 4.375 mil per. Someone else linked to the ESPN report upthread, but I didn’t see anyone having posted the specific number.
Matt Jones tweeted about “around $6 million per year” earlier today, so that’s probably the max with all incentives included.
OK that's it
I’m out. My blood pressure and heart rate going way to the extremes with the waiting and talk. You guys close the deal and have your people call my people about our next steps… :P
awww.go ahead jbt36....let yourself go for a minute
it feeeeeeeeels soooo good
Remember, were having fun now!!!
update
commercial appeal is reporting Cal has been at a memphis boster’s house for over 2 hours – he was one of Cal’s biggest supporters.
not sure what it means as they were friends as well – could be a long good bye – could be a heart to heart – “do you really want to do this?”
by memphis wildcat on Mar 30, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
Being reported at other sites.....
…….that Cal is meeting with them to convince Memphis that former assistant (Tony Barbee) is the right guy to hire.
GBB!!!
Gulp, Gulp, Gulp!!!
Sorry guys, I was just drinking some of that John Calipari Kool-Aid. Everyone get a drink, there is plenty!!
B. Mc
Rick Bozich: All Systems Go on Calipari
Update from Bozich
http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/bozich/2009/03/all-systems-go-on-calipari.html
GBB!!!
Could be Wednesday or Thursday?
Aw, hell to the no!
with Cal -
not only does the fat lady have to sing, but she has to have showered, eaten dinner and gone to bed……….
by memphis wildcat on Mar 30, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
I'm as nervous as a cat up a tree, and trying very hard not to get over the edge excited
about this coaching hire until they drive the moving van to Lexington.
Rent?
He can BUY IT with $ from the ATM machine.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he can buy it...
burn it down
and build a retreat for the kids
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 30, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Gawd
I have missed class and my gf is mad cuz i wont look at her while shes talking cuz im too busy reading this stuff. I hope it really is a done deal. There would be a substantial amount of people look stupid if it wasn’t.
Cal himself would look all kinds of bad if he backed out now
I guess there is the precedent of Donovan actually SIGNING with Orlando and having the press conference before changing his mind, and then getting off virtually scott-free in the media; Bilas is the only one I can remember ripping into him for it. But this seems like a different situation.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
calipari
UK does not need calipari, we will be on probation in 2 yrs. Get real and get a coach with a love for Kentucky Basketball.
Show me the proof???
UL Football Fan/UK Basketball Fan ~ Shreveport Louisiana
by The White Mandingo on Mar 30, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, Mr. Pitino, Go On Back Over To Louisville
And let Cat fans celebrate and/or salivate.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd bet anything that will be the answer, but just wondered if ukjoe would actually admit it.
If I hear “love Kentucky basketball” one more time. Let’s settle this – if Pel or Ford either one comes to UK, while I know they have ties to the school, you can bet your last $ its about the money. They want to make their living same as anyone else. Bring either one of them in here now, and when they bomb (and they would at this stage imho), the split in the BBN would make the Civil War look like a disagreement in a Sunday School Class.
by bluegrassgal on Mar 30, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG
Meeks…Patterson…Orton…Cousins…Miller…Stephenson….and all the rest.
Please Cal Come to the pormised land!!
This is the only man I want for the job
UL Football Fan/UK Basketball Fan ~ Shreveport Louisiana
by The White Mandingo on Mar 30, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
theres no way this many people are wrong
Cal is the next coach. Uk AD wouldn’t let this story get this far out of hand! right?
Nazr To Calipari: Hire Padgett
As further indication of how quickly both sides are moving to an agreement, a source told SI.com on Monday that former Kentucky center Nazr Mohammed called Calipari to recommend that he hire Scott Padgett, another UK alum, as an assistant.
maybe they can hire Roderick Rhodes to coach free throw shooting....
oh snap
;-)
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
That would
be a great move on Cal’s part to help win fans over even more!
"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."
MITCH
he needs this home run to save h is ass!!!
Thank God UK Put Some Professional ADULTS On The Committee
Whoever recommended Gillispie should never be allowed to pick a coach again.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Love technology.
I just followed all this on my laptop all day long between ASOB, KSR (when I could get on there), and ESPN.COM. I watched the “door” with everyone else using my laptop. I kept up when I had to leave the office with Twitter on my Blackberry and then on the drive home I tuned in 84 WHAS to hear call ins about the situation on my Blackberry! I couldn’t have done this even just a few years ago! Man, I love technology.
Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi
I know - I'm going to get fired if I don't stay off this site at work!
by bluegrassgal on Mar 30, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why let that worry you?
Quit your job. You could start a movement and become a “Calhead”. Just follow him everywhere he goes, holding up a cigarette lighter. At least until the restraining order was filed.
I'm a little late
Can someone give me the back story on the door?
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 30, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
Thanks. UK fans #1, no doubting that.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 30, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I have gotten a headache from all these staggering numbers for a coach.
Been reading most of the day but I had to take a break and get my taxes finished. So glad it is done.
I was hoping for an announcement when I returned.
Not even seen the CPA yet
I usually have all this stuff done before Feb. Oh, woe is me anymore…big time procrastinator. Is that another symptom of old age?
Better see your CPA early...
Cause he is busy reading ASOB and doesn’t have time to mess with this stupid “tax crap”….doesn’t the IRS know it’s always basketball season in Kentucky!!! LOL
Enter a number on Schedule A, check ASOB, enter property tax paid, check ASOB…is there a support group for us?
Quote from Larry Orton !!!!!!
"Imagine the bigs you could have with Patrick Patterson, Daniel, Matt Pilgrim and Perry Stevenson along with Cousins coming in. What an offense that would be," Larry Orton said. "Then you would have Jodie Meeks and maybe throw in John Wall and Nolan Dennis, who is as good as Wall. You are talking about automatic Final Four."
http://vaughtsviews.com/?p=111
GBB!!!
I just realized
that the car everyone has been watching all day was actually provided to Calipari by the Univ…..he left the keys in the Bldg and walked out the other door….lol
Remember, were having fun now!!!
transfers
Seriously, how many UK guys may leave if Coach Cal brings a bunch of All-Americans with him?
To my knowledge
Memphis didn’t have any All Americans this year. UK did though. :-)
sorry
sorry, I meant high school all-americans. Guys like Stewart and Harrellson have to know that guys like Cousins are going to play if they good as advertised.
YIPEE
THE DEAL IS DONE!!!!
I CAN SEE THE RAINBOW ALREADY
oh I thought something was breaking ..........sheesh
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Nothing new in the last, oh, 60 seconds or so
If an official announcement is coming, it’ll probably have to wait until they can get things in place to bring Cal in and arrange a pep rally.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Official Announcement will be tomorrow
UK will wait until tomorrow to make the Official Announcement
HEY!!!!
someone email cal the words to “My Old Kentucky Home”
Hear is what I've heard today, Please stay with me here...
KRS is reporting that, WLEX is reporting that, ESPN is reporting that, A Memphis radio station is reporting that, A source told them that, KRS is reporting that, WLEX is reporting that, ESPN is reporting that, A Memphis radio station is reporting that, A source told them that, KRS is reporting that, WLEX is reporting that, ESPN is reporting that, A Memphis radio station is reporting that, A source told them that, KRS is reporting that, WLEX is reporting that, ESPN is reporting that, A Memphis radio station is reporting that, A source told them that, KRS is reporting that, WLEX is reporting that, ESPN is reporting that, A Memphis radio station is reporting that, A source told them that, …..
And if JC does not come to UK, they will all stand in a circle, point to the right and say, “That’s what he said”….
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Maybe everyone's trying to stay a step ahead of WHAS...
…after getting “scooped” on the BCG dismissal?
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
JMHO
but I disagree anyone was scooped by WHAS. I think WHAS just decided to run with the story before they really should have. I think there were lots of sighs of relief at WHAS Friday afternoon when it became clear they were right.
Personally, I think other news people probably had the same sources and the same info but wanted to wait for more official confirmation so as not to risk the “Nu-uh” statement UK issued that night. That made WHAS look bad.
But that’s just my opinion.
Yeah, they went out on a limb a bit
It seemed to me that WHAS decided they had solid enough info to report that BCG would be presented with a choice of resigning or being fired, hence their report that he “will not be the coach next year” followed by UK’s statement that “he has not been fired.” Both could be correct under that scenario.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Barnhart told John Clay
— on deep background — about three or four weeks ago what the deal was. He also told some other reporters. Go back and read the stories. It was all telegraphed.
calipari
What I am afraid of is what he will bring with the all-americans. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it!!!!!!!!!!
Joe, I am getting the sense
that you are not happy at all with this….I have had my own reservations, but are you really convinced this is a nightmare for UK?
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Transfer rules
Who else agrees that the NCAA should adjust its transfer rules so that players who are already on scholarship (like UK’s current players) can go somewhere else without sitting out a year if the coach leaves or gets fired?
I agree
It is not the players fault if a coach gets fired and the players should not be penalized
NCAA states
NCAA states players commit and sign with a school not a coach hence the enforcement of the rule
the rule
This transfer rule prevents college basketball from being like the NBA. Some players would jump ship to ship. I think there needs to be clarification for extraordinary circumstances like coaching change, probation, etc
yup...it would be chaos if every player could just leave when a coach does
theoretically every player could leave a team when a coach does
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
But is it fair that Cal could come to UK and bring some recruits to play right away...
…but none of the guys who have already been there playing for him?
Or at UK…if one of the incoming recruits wants to go somewhere else and the school agrees to let him go, he can play somewhere else this coming season. But no one currently on the roster can.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
so you would say that matriculating to an educational institution
moving in, taking courses, working toward your degree…has nothing to do with it?
Not really
People can switch schools whenever they want, if the new school will let them in.
I’m not in favor of anyone being able to transfer and play immediately anytime they want. But if the coach leaves or gets canned, I think that should be an exception.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Never has been and never will be.
The closest that they come to that is most schools will let a player out of an LOI. But the transfer rule always applies unless there is something like a family illness or other such justification.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Probability we find out something tonight...............
Less than 20 %
It's already more-or-less that way for recruits who have signed LOIs
The school has the option to hold them to it, but aside from wanting to meet the new coach first, they pretty much always let the players go if they want to. No reason to treat players already on scholarship any differently.
ESPN News has Pat Forde on the phone and he says an announcement tomorrow
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Pat Forde
Forde is saying Cal has offer in hand
this is not directed at you champcat24
but…duh. Is there anyone who doubted he already had the offer? Give us something new forde.
hey...
…In tis day and age of all the (Dana Altmans), you just never know… lol
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
no prob
One report says Cal is lobbying for his replacement. If this is true, then that is pretty honorable.
So....will JC
come in here and just bulldoze everything from the last 2 years to get the taste out of everyone’s mouthNew unis and new traditions etc
Remember, were having fun now!!!
or does he try to bring back everything we have all come to know and love??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Hopefully
Coach Cal will get the “tradition talk” from some UK brass. The same talk that Billy G did not get or just ignored.
So....we go back to winning senior days.....
we dont lose to any 2nd tier programs….and we can make SEC tournament championship game reservations annually again??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Also
Also add a sprinkling of 30 win seasons and SEC Players of the year.
I'm sure BCG got "the talk" when he was hired
I think it’s pretty safe to say that Lee Todd and Mitch Barnhart didn’t spend their interview time with him breaking down the relative merits of the 2-3 zone vs. the box-and-1.
Arizona Job
Has anyone else heard Billy G’s name mentioned with the Arizona job?
NC State has come up as possibly being interested in BCG
As I imagine some people around here have seen in various places as well.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
BCG
I heard Billy Clyde wants to go back out west.
My guess is that on the application where they ask....
may we inquire with your former employer…he will check NO
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ACC
the acc would eat Billy G alive. He needs to go to the Big West or something
He did just fine in the Big 12
Obviously the ACC is more of a basketball conference than that, but N.C. State itself isn’t the type of fishbowl that Duke or UNC are.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
did UK beat an ACC school under Billy G?
let me get my yearbook
Did we play any of them?
Aside from getting trounced twice by North Carolina?
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami Fl
Thats it but Miami was a winnable game
Ah, right
Forgot they’re in the ACC. Well, maybe it was winnable, but they sure didn’t win it…LOL.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Mizzou
sounds like Mike Anderson might go to Memphis – then BCG can go to the perennial underdog in Big 12
the only expectation there would be to beat Kansas every other year
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 30, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no ill will
I don’t wish Billy G any ill will. But I FULLY SUPPORT the decision that he was not right for UK. He needs to coach in the Big 12 or WAC or something.
Going from Missouri to Memphis seems a little odd to me
Especially considering that Anderson and Missouri just administered a pretty decisive beatdown in the Sweet 16 to a Memphis team that had more talent than them.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried to float a rumor
about Bruce Pearl taking the job….no one would buy it….lol
Remember, were having fun now!!!
All joking aside...
This instantly would bring UK basketball relevance back. Simply with the fact that our rivalry with Tennessee and Louisville would just be that much more intensified. Bruce Pearl and Calipari have a genuine distaste for each other and Calipari would love to make Pitino the small man in the state. I mean you can just see Andy Katz’s mouth watering when he was talking about the UK/UL rivalry if this goes down and in his own words how it’d be “the best rivalry in sports, not just college basketball”. lol
B. Mc
a UK/UL matchup
the dream matchup with Cal vs Pitino. That may actually get Dicky V out of the state of North Carolina
True
But Dicky V really got down on UK for “railroading Tubby out of Lexington” WHATEVER
Remember
There were days under Pitino when the big blue faithful were ready for Pitino to leave
He is still not as bad as Michael Wilbon
who said he hopes we never win another game lol
B. Mc
Wilbon
He is a zero. He couldn’t carry Jared Carter’s jock strap
These guys are all about worshipping the coaches
That’s why Dickie V got pissed off about Tubby, since he thought UK had treated him unfairly. But he’ll sing the praises of whoever comes in next, which he did with BCG and certainly will with Calipari.
Wilbon also got on his high horse because of Tubby and now because of BCG (whom he and Tony both like a lot and had on PTI several times). But even just today on PTI, Wilbon said that Calipari would likely be able to get UK back to the Final Four within two years. He’ll go on sweating Cal no matter what happens from here on out.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't
You can’t Dick, Tony, or Zerobon to understand. They don’t have blue blood running through their veins
Tony has been more fair this time around
When Tubby left, he argued it was unfair because Tubby was still “making the tournament”…as if that’s enough at UK…but this time, he pointed out to Wilbon that since 4 different coaches have won it all at UK, the fans have every right to expect success no matter who the coach is.
by WildcatFanInDC on Mar 30, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Tubby
left us he wanted a smoother job plus i heard his sons couldnt coach here nepotism or something?
Tubby
If tubby keeps minnesota in the tournament every year, he will be a hero. Thats all he needs to do
They Were Still Awesome
UK’s record wasn’t so awesome those 2 years.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Lotsa False In There
Both GG and Saul worked for Tubby at UK (1 year each).
Tubby found a better job FOR HIM.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true
Forty, UK does have a nepotism rule that would hinder saul from working under his father as an assistant coach. I know for sure. Saul did work for Tubby but only as a Graduate Assistant (which is a student not an employee). Im not sure if or when GG ever worked for him at UK. Maybe you can enlighten me.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
He Already Did (In 2003-04)
Saul was grad assistant (coach) in 2003-04.
GG was “Team Manager” in 2000-01 at UK. That title was used so GG could scrimmage with the players often.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 1, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Georgia would hire him
I think he deserves another shot to get it right somewhere that he could do things his way to see if they actually work out….see if he learned from all of this
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Knight Time
I thought Bobby Knight was interested in Georgia
Sigh..
K, I can’t convince myself that we’ll hear anything official this late today. So I’m going to try to pry my eyes from the computer screen to see if they still work for viewing things more than 18 inches away.
Be back bright and early tomorrow to enjoy more of the sparkling commentary on here. (seriously, y’all are really entertaining)
Night!
Not yet. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHA check out the pic/graphic at the top of this page....
http://www.truebluekentucky.com/
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Anyone feeling more thankful to be a KY fan again?
now that we have had our dose of humility that everyone thought we needed??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Until tomorrow,,,
Good Night BIG BLUE NATION! Tomorrow will bring a brighter day and hopefully a coach that will restore order to the basketball universe and put Kentucky back in our rightful place among basketball royalty
Is the one not asked...
knowing what they know about Calipari, will UK keeps tabs on him to see that he doesn’t make any mistakes? Its interesting that everything mentioned has been hashed and rehashed but it is reported as if it is a new revelation.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/147576-reports-out-of-memphis-calipari-has-accepted-job-as-kentuckys-new-head-coach
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
I heard WLEX say the same thing during a commercial about an hour ago....
i surely hope its true
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I would be okay with having him for 1 year
Look at what Derrick Rose did for Memphis. John Wall is giong to have that same type of imapct whererever he ends up at.
It would be pretty neat to see Wall, Meeks, Miller, Patterson and Orton together on the court. Talent wise, that would be a top 5 team.
GBB!!!
Yep - seems like by the time Wall is (would be) gone, Vilarino will be a sophmore, ready to step and be a very solid PG.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Dont forget about Pilgrim
…And DeMarcus Cousins, who has not signed a Letter of Intent yet, only verbaled..
by stephensmith on Mar 30, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Demarcus Cousins
Now here is a study in recruiting …. Cousins orignally committed to UAB but, would not sign the LOI because he wanted a clause allowing him to transfer if Mike Davis was not the UAB coach … so then he winds up at Memphis … all happy and smiles at new found joy – only to find out now that the Memphis coach is going to Kentucky … so he’s back in the mix … This kid could be the poster child for recruiting – he’s likely to be an agent for other kids one day …
I can say this – I’ve seen his game … this dude can bring it – hope he brings it to Kentucky!!
OMG. can it GET ANY BETTER???
There are reports that at least two members of Calipari’s top-rated recruiting class for next season, who have verbally committed to Memphis but have not signed letters of intent, may also follow him to Kentucky. They are 6-10 forward DeMarcus Cousins, and point guard John Wall, who has not verbally committed to Memphis but is considered likely to sign with Calipari.
No....it is impossible to get any better.
March 30, 2009. You will remember this day for years and years.
Want to see John Wall take care of business
This guy is the real deal … if not for the NBA rule, he wouldn’t be considering any colleges. .. He’s speed, and sees the floor well … he has that unique ability to make thos around him much better …. This guy is a plus on any roster at any level …
http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonlive/2008/08/serbia_shocks_the_usa_on_day_o.html
We wont have room for 2 players
Moreless 4. Don’t get your expectations too high!
It's not very nice...but:
The new coach will be yanking a few scholarships from current players….
It’s what Pitino did at Providence.
If that happens ...
… I will instantly become this university’s biggest critic.
That is unacceptable and unethical.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No Yanking
Porter may get on with his life and fatherhood.
Williams and Stewart may transfer. Harrellson, too.
i doubt Tucker’s verbal sticks.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully
That’s not how Cal wants to start his job here. This is something everyone needs to approach as long term. So what if we miss out on a few all-americans this year to do the honorable thing and honor the school’s commitment to incoming players. I’m planning on seeing Cal bring in plenty of talent in the next few years, long after the incoming freshman this year have flopped or did there one year and entered the draft.
Mine are high ... corrections maybe just hopes are high
I hope we can land some of this talent along with CAL … There are penty of options to explore to make room for three or four new guys … It would be sad to let talent like these guys have go to another school … to me I’d rather step on a few toes than have to play against these guys – I’m not saying we shouldn’t honor commitments – I just mean explore every option available to get these guys on board. Its happened before it can happenhere……
Room can be made if the situation is handled correctly......
the new coaches need to evaluate the players. Do they have video of practices? Talk to each player about his realistic expectations of seeing playing time. Offer help in finding a school where he can contribute. I think some would rather move on than sit on the bench with the perception that he was taking the space of a better player. Poerter could possibly become a graduate assistant if he has aspirations of coaching someday. He would surely have a wealth of first-hand knowledge of what works and doesn’t work. I think accomodations will be reached.
I hope everyone is going into this with their eyes wide open
I know everyone is very excited. I have gotten caught up in it too. There are still some questions and concerns that need to be answered. I think expectations are a little out of control now. Hopefully everything will work out.
expectations are a LOT higher than they've EVER been!
and I feel they’re completely justified.
This is what happens when the Basketball Gods Smile upon us.
I dont see us winning a national championship the first year
I’m overjoyed at the “possibilities” and I do think theres a real chance that things could turn around. Best feelings i’ve had ab0out KY basketball since 1996. It will take time. Lets not run this guy off because he needs time.
I am tempering my expectations until we know he is here
and what recruits stay with UK or come from Memphis. I still think the SEC is going to be down again next year and if certain things fall into place, UK should have a good regular season. I don’t even want to think about national championships just yet.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
If the recruits follow suit and we keep our big threats (PP and Meeks). There is no reason that we shouldn’t compete for the title next year. Especially if the recruits follow and some current players. Memphis is the most athletic team year in, year out! We will be dominate!
by GoBigBlue1978 on Mar 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think chances are lot better with CAL than with BG
It will not be easy … I think BG didn’t really consider how hard it would be to win on the road in the SEC. For example at Vanderbilt, with the coaches placed on the end lines (how stupid -BTW) … BG thought oh what the heck .. I think CAL will pay more attention to detail .. but still it will take time to win on the road in the SEC. For me just say I like chance with CAL much better than with BCG>
Great news!
My wife’s best friend’s co-worker’s minister has a rich donor friend from Lexington (who knows Rick Pitino by the way) who has a neighbor who just saw a private plane flying over Kentucky that appeared to be ready to land at the Bluegrass International Airport arriving from from the southwest direction of Memphis.
This is it people – next year, Final Four.
Finally!
The news we have all been waiting for! Thanks BR7!
by stephensmith on Mar 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
Can’t you tell when your leg is being pulled? Look at his avatar.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Knew he was joking
But didnt notice the Pic… GRRRR!
by stephensmith on Mar 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
lol what?
That happens at least what once a day or more right?
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 30, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
OK.
Very funny.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a joke
Coach Cal would be great – best of luck. (It is pretty exciting when a new coach is coming in.)
Thanks.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a
serious chain of hearsay you have there. I haven’t heard anything like it this side of “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.” Have you ever played telephone?
Fooz.
Observe his avatar. Click on his name.
Be wise — be informed. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You know
Even though the subject matter of that issue sucked for us, that is still one of the most powerful images I can remember seeing as a kid.
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 30, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Football
My expectations are set high enough with our football team. I can see Morgan Newton passing to Chris Matthews for a 50 yard TD against the Gators while im typing this. We have a ridiculous schedule though.
It is official
John Calipari is our head coach and he is bringing two current players with him. This is confirmed by LEX18. Here is the link!: http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=10096463. Article also says two recruits will likely follow. Those are Demarcus Cousins and John Wall!
Nah ...
… he just has a period in the link. Cut and paste all but the period at the end in your browser, it’s there.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm.
This makes no sense. There is no room for transfers, unless they are going to pay their own way or some of our commitments are decomitting.
I’m not buying it.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
16 Now
Tucker verbal won’t be honored. Williams goes off scholarship as planned. That’s 14.
Stewart, Harrellson transfer. That’s 12. Porter becomes Dad and gets on with his life. Now 11.
2 spots. Patterson +/- Meeks to NBA. Maybe 3 or 4 spots.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Patterson and Meeks will be right here
This will be a great opportunity to “show what they’ve got” to the NBA scouts.
the giveaway
My wife’s best friend’s co-worker’s minister has a rich donor friend from Lexington (who knows Rick Pitino by the way) who has a neighbor
That was pretty good BR7 and im watching google earth right now looking at the Memphis AD office doors Cal just walked out those doors and if i can read lips he said “look out Ky here me and my all americans come”
That's actually a really good point
His recruiting class that he could bring with him to the Big Blue is just incredible on paper.
Where are we going to get the scholarships?
If we had maybe one or two schollies available, I could see it. But we are two over the limit right now.
How are we going to find room for 19 players with 13 schollies?
Color me skeptical.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I Did The Speculative Math Above
Tucker verbal won’t be honored. Williams goes off scholarship as planned. That’s 14.
Stewart, Harrellson transfer. That’s 12. Porter becomes Dad and gets on with his life. Now 11.
2 spots. Patterson +/- Meeks to NBA. Maybe 3 or 4 spots
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't think so.
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Facebook Page
Devoted to the Wildcats and a new coach. Guess how many people have posted this week. over 14,000 and every player on our team posted that they want Calipari.
incredible “just on paper” or “just incredible” on paper?
I’m saying yes to both. Not getting to hyped about a kid who hasn’t touched the NCAA court yet. I’m glad it looks like we are getting a big name coach and a proven recruiter, kinda worried about the trouble that seems to creep up everywhere he goes but as a Cat fan I’m excited.
April Fools
This could be the most highly advanced april fools joke ever layed down on abuncha suckafools
danial
Cal a official done deal? Out in oregon land. ESPNEWS still reporting talks have ’intensified"?
by blue oregon on Mar 30, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Barnhart's House Party
My uncle lives next door to Mitch Barnhart (in Heartland Estates) and he just said there are about 12 cars outside of Barnhart’s house. While he stoped short of saying Calipari is there, he was sure he saw Lee Todd and CM Newton. Could this be the ultimate UK boosters pep rally?
lemme google earth that
yep house party confirmed over barnharts. Cal is there . They have a Billy D pinuetta and strippers
www.googleearth.com/barnhartshouseparty
confirmed source
And I was dumb enough to look that up!
by GoBigBlue1978 on Mar 30, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Good question.
I have no idea. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Mar 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
here is the latest i am hearing down hear
in his meeting with the supporter – apparently Fred Smith (fedex founder) was there.
Cal may have gone to campaign for Barbee, but they put the hard course press on him – made it more than about money – made it about civic pride and the positive impact he has had on memphis.
it apparently has given him pause but he is still leaning Uk – personally, i think so much water has gone under the bridge, he has to come.
just sounds like some of the memphis boosters have not given up….
by memphis wildcat on Mar 30, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
OH NO
A suv with texas tags just rode into the house party with some dude chasing it on foot! omg its billy g demanding 6 million dollars! he just shoved barnhart in a bathroom stall and told Todd that he was walking back to the hotel if he didnt get his money
now I do not believe you.
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by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If...
…Cal signs with us, I don’t think it matters if he brings in his recruits this year or not. The Cats will still be good in 2 or 3 years regardless. I still believe we have a good team if we just add a pt. guard and another low post threat. Villarino and Orton appear to fill this need.
Interesting question....
when they fly him into Lexington, will be be able to track the flight? Found a web site that allows people to track flights online.
I'm ex-USAF SPACE COMMAND
I guess I could round a few folks at NORAD to track him for me…If he is as hot as we all seem to think he is, maybe we can get a heat signature on the DSP satellite’s I used to fly.
New open thread above for all you sleepless sorts.
I’m too old for this sh*t. I’m outta here. :-)
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