Open Thread: Talk about the 'Cats, the NCAA's, whatever.
by Glenn Logan on Mar 29, 2009 5:28 PM EDT
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UNC and Oklahoma are getting it on (Boomer Sooner!), Louisville got sent back to the River City by Sparty, the coaching carousel is about to start spinning like a mad top on crack.
Lots to discuss. Go for it.
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Pitino...
Should Barnhart give make him an offer?
Why not ask?
If I were Barnhart, I would. If he said “No,” (which he will), I would just cross his name off and move on.
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Coaching Carousel......
Marc Maggard is claiming a victory…(of sorts)…KSR is stating that according to the sources they trust most that its already almost done….no one has been even close so far to being right…..have we become the Oakland Raiders of the college basketball world….Pitino is supposedly influencing everyone in coaching about NOT taking the position…what has happened to Paradise…..have we become some second rate program controlled by poor management and a psycho fan base???…..I am beginning to believe the media….
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Maggard....
is claiming today that the Donovan deal is not as lost as is being claimed
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Stop saying that as if he stated it as fact.
He did not. He is claiming nothing. He is just telling people what he is hearing from some of his sources.
by BBallSophist on Mar 29, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
a little dramatic
UCLA , North Carolina, and Indiana have RECENTLY gone through it. We will be fine.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Pitino equals no.
Don’t want him back.
Anyone notice Jaime Dixon in the brown suit with blue shirt and tie during their game last night? Maybe a subliminal message?
Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi
IZZO
had blue tie on as well today..subliminal to Rick P?
Was Pitino
part of the equation 2 years ago?
According to Forty....Pitino would have come to UK back in 2001 (I don't know the full story)
however I believe he is the least likely person to come to UK of all the names people have mentioned. I see no way he would make the move at this point.
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I believe he was just fine then....
you would have to get the full story from Forty….I would only mess it up
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Not At All (Ken Howlett Will Verify This)
UK AD Larry Ivy refused to grant Tubby an extension to his original 5 year contract in 2001 and encouraged him to seek the South Carolina job. USC offered Tubby $2 million (per) but Tubby and Donna decided at the very last minute to say No Thanks.
Ivy had Pitino waiting in the wings to replace him. I won’t go into more detail but there’s more to it.
Tubby wasn’t in a solid situation at UK except in 1998 and 2003. Only those 2 years, no others.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
RP Was Part Of The Effort To Nudge Him Out
Leave it at that. It’s 8 years past.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, Just Business
College basketball is not as pristine as it looks sometimes.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No illusions about the business of basketball
however, surprised RP was/is still involved with decisions surrounding UK basketball.
anyone think that....
Today’s loss might put Pitino in a mind to come back now??
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Hard To Say
Pitino was 200-73 in the last 8 years (2002 thru 09) at Louisville.
UK wasn’t very satisfied with 200-70 (Tubby’s record) in the 8 years from 2000 thru 07.
P was 219-50 in his 8 years at UK.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
For everyone who wants Pitino back...
…just remember how each and every year Pitino toyed with leaving. The fans were all up in arms. Then eventually he did leave.
I’m grateful for what he did for UK and think he still loves his time here but don’t want him back.
That was torture..
I remember when he finally did leave for the Celtics in 97 my dad said, “Well, at least we don’t have to worry about him leaving every year.”
Pitino.....
according to sources has counciled Donovan to never take the job and was doing it 2 years ago as well
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Hell ...
… I don’t want Donovan that much, anyway. Pitino either, for that matter.
But hey, who knows? Not me.
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and then suggest that UK hire Pelphrey or Ford. Good grief.
by bluegrassgal on Mar 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I have
heard this too and I cant believe his ego is that bad , but then again . I wouldnt be surprised
I Have Shared An E-Mail Previously With Tru
From a prominent UK alumnus who said exactly that.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Deep down inside
Pitino would like to come back..
ooooh, this is great
— Hello Kentucky Sports Media —
Now that UL is out of the tourney, please ask Ricky P
“coach, if we cut you open, what’s inside?”
Does Calipari represent
something we want in this program??…..the dissenters claim he brings shame in his bag of tricks
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He has the stature.
But he also lives in gray areas of NCAA compliance.
If we bring him, we had better watch him like a proverbial hawk. But he could win huge at UK, no doubt about it.
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HE
Would win right away God knows he can recruit
This aint C-USA
this is the SEC I don’t think he could bring in the recruits like he is now simply because in the SEC you have schools to compete with for conference wins.In C-USA well do I really need to go there…?Think about your a top 5 recruit and Memphis offers you a scholorship pretty much your in the NCAA tournament if you play a few “good” teams in non-conference play.That won’t happen at UK you have to play UL and UNC about every year,not counting this year, but also have good teams in conference.
by yearofthecat on Mar 29, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
UK is an elite program
With a LONG history of success.
Great players want to come to UK, UNC, UCLA, Duke (i call them Puke) because they are elite programs and they’ll have a chance at winning a NC if they come to any of those schools. UK already has it going for them that they are an elite program. Now we just need a great recruiter to reel them in
This makes no sense.
The fact that Kentucky is in the SEC, plays against better competition and is on television constantly is beneficial to Kentucky recruiting, not detrimental. Cal will recruit just as well, if not better, if he came to UK.
by BBallSophist on Mar 29, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
More national TV exposure
That’s what UK has that only UNC and Duke should match
As long as Sandy Bell in at UK...
…Calipari will be kept under control… At least I think…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Sandy Bell...
would have very little impact on Calipari. He works through influences beyond the university’s control. And he is very dangerous in my opinion. He would likely win huge here, but we would be a continuing target of ridicule. And I can’t hlp but believe this WWWes stuff is going to eventually be his downfall.
He can’t recruit the type of players here as he has at Memphis, his graduation rate is abysmal – the guy just scares the living hell out of me.
according to his bio he has 12 of his 15 Memphis players have degrees
Since he took over in 2000, 12 of 15 Calipari players have earned their degrees, and two others, Anferenee Hardaway and Marcus Moody, came back to graduate during Calipari’s tenure. And, it hasn’t stopped there.
Calipari, with the help of the University, has asked several former players to come back and earn their degrees. Some of the beloved Tigers from the 1980s such as Bobby Parks and Andre Turner are taking Calipari up on his offer. Prior to Calipari arriving at Memphis, the basketball graduation rate was zero.
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When was this published?
That seems an odd way of putting it. “12 of 15”. He’s had a few more than 15 recruits I would think.
not sure but here is the link....it is in the About section
http://www.coachcalipari.com/calipari/main.aspx
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According to NCAA stats on graduation rates...
from 2003-2007, the University of Memphis men’s basketball program was in the 50th percentile among Division 1 programs.
UK was in the 20th percentile during that same time. I am also searching for information on incoming freshmen SAT scores, etc. That is probably going to take some time.
If it turns out that his graduation rate is better than that, I will retract my earlier statement, but according to the NCAA he has been middle of the road at best.
I wonder how early entries and/or transfers might affect those percentages
i never knew the answer to that
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If a player...
goes to another school and graduates, you get credit. But if they drop out or leave early, it counts against you.
It only counts against you if
the player was not in good academic standing. If he was on schedule to graduate, for whatever year he was, it does not count against the school.
Dead head.....
you wouldnt happen to be a veteran of the Pizza business in OHIO would you?….possibly initialed DG…..just wondered….used to know someone that would fit a DeadHeadCat description…
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thanks for letting me know
had a really good friend that was a major DeadHead and Cats fan…..was just wishing….lost touch with him a while back
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It's almost mind-boggling for me to think about
Calipari would be phenomenal here. Just look what what he’s done at UMass, Memphis…. and those schools aren’t even considered “elite”. Can you even imagine what he could do given an opportunity at an elite school such as UK. ohhh snap!
My understanding
is that UK has the best watchdog in college basketball. I hope that is the case.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Yep, Sandy Bell.
She doesn’t mess around.
by BBallSophist on Mar 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Story today at Aaron's UK BLog
says that Calipari has had his people make the call and that he has the desire to “own” this state
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Count me as one that is just fine with Caliparips history....
I always point out to anyone that will ask that he has never had a violation and I truly do not remember him even being investiagated for a recruiting violation. I really believe that sometimes perception becomes reality. I just say prove it.
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I can point you to several areas of concern.
Not the least of which is the controversial situation with DeJuan Wagner. There have been numerous minor violations that he has been a part of, and numerous highly suspicious incidents which did not draw an investigation but could have.
He needs a very tight reign. But he could win huge here.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Fair enough
I believe the Wagner situation had to do with hiring his dad as an assistant to get DeJuan as a recruit. Hasn’t Uk done this? It was Dennis Johnnson I believe. Not arguing just curious.
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They did something similar ...
… with Jamaal Magliore, but there was a lot more going on in the Wagner situation involving the infamous Worldwide Wes. That relationship would need to go away if Calipari comes here.
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WWWES
Ken sent a link about WWW last night. As kbb wrote last night this guy could spell real trouble. He is also linked to Phil Knight (founder & owner of NIKE) who is the godfather
with University of Oregon sports. Knight builds all kinds of staduiums, basketball & baseball facilities, libraries etc… but he controls the hiring and firing at the U of O. Word is that you do not want to cross Knight. Many folks here in Eugene call the U of O-NIKE U.
Other things mentioned and not mentioned in that article is that he is from the same hometown as Stephen A. Smith of ESPN fame and they are supposedly quite friendly these days which made me think twice when I saw him mention the Calipari to UK this morning as they are only 3 years apart. He was Dennis Rodman’s quasi prompter during the 90s if you remember most of those escapades and has befriended lots of up and coming NBA stars as a mover and shaker.
I’m all for Calipari at UK – we want to win and he has yet to actually be convicted of anything serious… Unlike Pitno. We’ve had our own shady history for a very long time but it was a booster package that finally got us busted. I would hope the administration would be the controlling moral authority if the self-righteous face they have been presenting the last week is more than an upper class disdain.
Cal would be better fit
than B D ..he is more hungry..
I actually think ...
… he also happens to be a better basketball coach.
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Well I will be okay
…As long was we dont get Pelphry, Ford, or Izzo.
I 2nd that
UL Football Fan/UK Basketball Fan ~ Shreveport Louisiana
by The White Mandingo on Mar 29, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
all Izzo does is win....
,,,I would take him right now, and never look back..!!!!
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
It doesn't matter
He won’t leave MSU I put money on it
UL Football Fan/UK Basketball Fan ~ Shreveport Louisiana
by The White Mandingo on Mar 29, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're right.
But I would take him in a hot minute.
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Indeed
However he averages nearly 10 L per season in his 14 year career.
But his 23 W average (per year) includes the best NCAA record (W-L %) other than John Wooden EVER.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
brutal schedule
And those 10 losses usually include a brutal non conference schedule. I’d love to have Izzo as a coach, but my inlaws are huge Spartan fans and I would probably become an outcast.
I would take Izzo ...
… in a New York minute.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
5 final fours in 11 years now?
I would definitely take that.
ESPN was reporting
that Izzo has already showing interest…..and today sure didnt hurt his chances….
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Calipari is the best name on the list
I agree with the Hoopville article that we can’t expect a big name coach willing to quit a cemented job to come here. I know that this is KENTUCKY. But let’s be realistic about what Kentucky is these days.
1. We have had 2 coaches in 2 years.
2. Any coach that comes here can expect intense pressure from the administration, fans and boosters.
3. We are no longer the first pick for the best high school players. Kids are looking at where they get the best exposure to make it to the NBA and/or a good education.
4. As I have said before, parity is evening the line in college basketball.
“And then comes PARITY to ruin the party. It’s a really simple formula. The talent out there has risen so that even non-elite colleges are getting chances at great players. How did Stephen Curry get to Davidson past UK, UNC, Duke, Florida, etc.? How does Gonzago become a national name so quickly? PARITY…”
We can posture all we want about we are Kentucky. But the real deal is we are just another school trying to recruit players. And any coach coming here does not have guaranteed players or a guaranteed position.
Whether or not is was justifiable, we have been made an embarrassment in the public across the US. The national media picked up BCG’s situation and ran with it for weeks. So this pick better be right.
So, where does that leave us? I see a lot of people clamoring for Calipari. He’s probably the biggest name on the list that is realistic. Ford? I would love to have Travis here in 4-5 years if is record keeps up. Not now though (as much as that pains me to say it). I don’t want to see a divorce with Travis in 2-3 years later when boosters or fans won’t give him time to build the program and then we part ways with an idol from Ky.
We need someone who comes hitting the ground running. Calipari does that. He has some questions with him but not proven. And he wins and does well with the press. God knows that will buy him a few years to recruit and get it all going.
I agree.
Thats why I think BCG should have got another year. No big name coach is going to want to come knowing they only have 2 years to get to a Final Four or they will be fired.
by stephensmith on Mar 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking back
While I fought against the BCG firing initially, when you start looking back at the history of the last 2 years. BCG did himself no favors with fans or the media. Throw that on top of everything else and the writing was on the wall.
Yeah, but...
You’re paying the man millions of dollars… Just because he didn’t write a book and kiss babies, like Pitino did, doesn’t mean he should be fired.
by stephensmith on Mar 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
When you are the coach at Kentucky
You win games. But you also don’t tell reporters their questions are stupid on national television and you don’t tell the entire nation that being an ambassador is not in your job description on national TV. As a UK coach, you are representing UK and all of Kentucky.
Any big name coaching job in America requires that you be able to both coach and deal with the media and public. Wasn’t BCG’s style I guess. I love the coach but the image was starting to wear.
Maybe the real point is
that it seemed clear the players HATED Gillispie. I was watching Izzo coaching his players this morning and when he scolded them they actually looked like they were listening. Haven’t seen that from a UK player all year. They looked too scared/pissed off to absorb anything BCG was saying.
U K can't
to picky if an established coach will come here..
Yeah
just look what happened the last time we settled…
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by The White Mandingo on Mar 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarcasim
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by The White Mandingo on Mar 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I just got accepted as a Friend by one of Calipari's daughters on Facebook
I am going to ask her what’s up…..;-)
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Don't be starting rumors here.
Leave that to other blogs and message boards. You know how I feel about that.
:-)
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I am not actually going to ask her....she wouldn't answer anyway or so I think
;-)
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i seriously doubt that she is actually his daughter.
It’s pretty easy to create a fake profile on facebook.
Calipari's daughter
Why don’t you hang out outside their house, and when she goes to school in the morning, you can follow her.. and maybe get the inside scoop from her at school. That wouldn’t be weird at all.
just ask her
what the $$$ figure is so we can cut to the chase and move on if necessary…..so I can get some sleep
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Didn't UK have to turn stuff into the NCAA concerning Myspace?
People going on PPat’s account trying to get him to come here.
Maybe don’t do it…..
Tell Me Tru...
how many of these “up and coming” coaches are making their names on one or two recruits over a three or four year period…..Look at Capel…..I know he may be a great coach in time, but isnt he making a name a lot on Griffin’s back?…it just makes me nervous after what happened with BCG
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Yeah ...
… I mean, you have a point. I don’t have Capel on my list, unless its way down there.
I would rather have somebody more established.
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I hate to say it....
but I would really like to see us just go out and recruit a couple of trained killers for the paint….1 or 2 no name sharpshooters…and a group of guys that want to win so badly they will sweat blood, and then it wont matter as much who coaches….I can win with a team like that and Ill do it for free….we need substance in this program again….not just a lot of talk and unfulfilled promises
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Coaches
Forgone conclusion Pitino wont be back, Dont really think Izzo can be lured here – plus his age factor as much as anyone – I think Calipari is the target (even though TRU has said he’ll bring NCAA probation with him – I don’t think so) … after that bring me whoever …
NO WAY
Mitch and Dr Todd are not insane enough to hire someone as shady as John Calipari. He won’t even get a call, bet on it.
Wouldn't want to bet on that ...
I don’t think you can call him shady on this site without some kind of citing – that’s innuendo I think … not saying I’m not familiar with his past … but, I haven’t seen anything in print about shady dealings recently
There ...
… is plenty to cite. “Shady” may not be totally accurate, but he is definitely the kind of coach that can get you in trouble if left to his own devices. He has numerous controversial incidents in his record.
But he has avoided real trouble so far.
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I was joking about that.
We do have to be careful if we try to bring Calipari, though.
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Capel
is not battle tested yet I agree he is to green
We know there will be pressure
—huge pressure—on the next coach to get it all right from media relations, to fan, interactions, codling the boosters, and of course, to win games big time, but don’t you think that for several of these coaches whose names we are throwing about, that their egos are so big, they don’t even consider the possibility of not being able to handle it??
no doubt
I believe it is just not that hard to get the PR side of it right. Almost every coach in every sport gets it right for the most part. What troubles me most about our most recent coach is the things I am hearing about how he treated players. If some of that stuff is true, it is much more unforgivable IMO. I am not going to repeat them but it is out there if you look around.
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Memphis paper poll
This poll was taken from the memphis paper just now.
The last dew days, the Yes’s have been gaining on the No’s, but it seems that the Memphis fans still believe that he’s staying.
Here’s a copy and paste below.
Do you think John Calipari will leave the Memphis Tigers to be the next coach at Kentucky?
Yes, he’s headed to the SEC. 28% 552 votes
No, he’ll stay at Memphis. 71% 1385 votes
1937 total votes
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
no offense...
but the last time I trusted a poll it said that John Mc Cain would blow Obama out of the water in a general election…..lol…just dont believe them anymore when it comes to what people will do
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I am hoping to see a pol there tomorrow that asks.....
Are you surprised coach Calipari took the UK job…..;-)
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There may be hundreds of UK fans voting in that poll
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 29, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Calipari and his 'connections'
http://billyreedsays.com/2008/04/07/memphis-has-worldwide-wes-to-thank/
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=5988
And this is the guy you want running OUR Wildcat program? REALLY??
I honestly believe we should.....
try to talk Pat Riley into taking the job….let him hire the greatest staff ever assembled so they can do the legwork…and make him find someone to replace him in 5-6 years when he is ready to retire. It resolves so many issues
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coaching game is much more like the pro
game in college now….besides, its how Pitino got all of his big time recruits….told them he knew what would get them into the NBA
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Riley ...
… would not be interested. Plus, he is 64 years old and would have to take a pay cut.
Never, ever happen.
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c'mon Tru....we have had everyone else but Ahnuld
rumored for the job….whats one more??
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now there you go
causing me to lose more sleep…..lol…..I just knew I had the answer…..
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Forty...
I keep hearing about Travis Ford burning bridges with UK at some point in the past. I must have missed something because I don’t know specifically what people are talking about. Any idea?
I don’t want the guy as a coach here, but my reasons are more personal than professional. Can you shed some light?
UK Cancelled UMass Game In Boston Last Season
That is the Burning Bridges incident.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
More Than That
Enough said. That prompted the Burned Bridges outcome.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Congrats, U R promoted to 2d Grade reading level.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Pound Salt
Google it if you want to.
What an ass.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
spork
I know you are from Marion County if I remember right.
I am too but have been in Campbellsville for 31 years. Travis was the coach at CU at one time. Many of my friends saw him up close and personal and he can be very arrogant and has a very dirty mouth, even coaching at a Baptist Univ.
He married a gal from here, a Doctor’s daughter. I am sure he would love to get back to KY., but now is not the time IMO.
My Ex Agrees
She went to High School with him. We met at UK while Travis was playing at UK. Anytime anybody said how much they liked T. Ford she would go on a rant about what an absolute ass he was. Arrogant, self centered, and mean was the gist…..but she is my ex…. So take that for what its worth :)
I agree...
I’m not defending Ford or anything. I just wanted to know what the “Burned Bridges Incident” was. I don’t really want Ford as the next coach, but I don’t think it will be an absolute catastrophe if we have to settle for him.
He Was Pissed When UK Cancelled The Game
He made some public comments that Mitch didn’t like.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis was very upset ...
… and let it be known to anyone who would listen behind the scenes. He put a pretty pout on for the media, but he undoubtedly burned some bridges.
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Didn't Riley say
a few years ago he knew nothing coaching the college game ?
Yes.
And he doesn’t know the first thing about it. He has never coached a minute of college ball.
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saw this on ksr
http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/missouri-tigers.php?message=6510654
doesn’t mean anything, but, it won’t surprise me. If Donovan comes to UK I’ll be pretty mad.
This is speculation on my part
but with the Calapari chatter in the last 24 hours one thing is for sure.The Coach at UNC,Kansas,UCLA are going nowhere anytime soon.When the Kentucky job opens,and your name is on the list,it is a once in a lifetime opportunity.When Pitino mentioned Pelphrey and Ford as suitable candiates for the job,I can READ between the lines.
I don't know
why they keep going after Donovan. That guy doesn’t seem to be as good as everyone thinks he is. He has two titles and doesn’t seem to be recruiting. Pitino isn’t as good as he thinks he is. I think they need a young, fresh guy, but after the BCG gamble, they won’t do it. My guess is they’ll push hard for Calipari, he’d thrive comparing himself to Pitino, UK still has bigger guns than the ’ville, but the coaching at UofL has been better than UK since Pitino took the job. No offense to Tubby.
Tubby still had
Ricky’s # when they were going head to head though after Pitino came back to UL
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Still Does
5 W of the last 7 games (T vs. P) this decade.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Not So (The Numbers)
Pitino is 200-73 at U of L.
Tubby was 200-70 this decade at UK.
Gillispie, now that’s another story. 40-27 is worse than either P or T above.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Tubby
is a good coach and had solid teams, but Pitino has definitely turned L’ville into something else. He also has gone deeper in the tourney recently than Tubby.
Some Years, Yes
Not others.
Like most coaches, Pitino has good years and not-so-good years.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He Has 2 (1997 And 2008)
Pitino has a few of his own (1 & Done in NCAA).
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
But think about this
if WE had been in the Big East the last 4 years, would we even have a winning record??
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anyway
who cares, I didn’t mean to re-hash the Tubby debate. Point is, Rick’s done a great job at the ville.
True....and they really LOOOOOOVE hiim
try to find any Card fan who will say anything bad about Pitino…..they would be stoned at the doors of Freedom Hall
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Dude's
easy to love man. That’s why he’s slick Rick. If he were still at UK he’d still be a god here.
heck, he's not
my first choice, but if Pitino came back to UK, which he won’t, I’d take it. We’ve learned that a UK coach has to be a politician, not just a coach. We had the nice guy (Tubby), we had the bulldog (BCG). That’s why Calipari would also be a good fit.
I Agree On Calipari
He’s 1st on my list.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
What about the shady stuff?
He’s first on my list too – TRU says he’ll bring NCAA probation with him others say he’s shady, I’m familiar with his past but, I haven’t heard about anything bad going on at memphis … I feel like talent drops way off after him – offer him the farm … or a farm (horse)
Really?
1 FF and 73% W-L record in 8 years.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Really what??
I think with UK fan base and support he could excel here moreso than at memphis- maybe he could see himself getting to the FF regularly… no need to be shady at UK …. we have to be able to compete for talent with the UNC’s and UCLA’s – I don’t see to many other coaches giving us that competitive edge …
I Was Talking About Pitino
Not Calipari.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitino Has 1 FF In 8 Years
Crum had 2 NC and 6 FF in 30 years.
Pitino has done a VERY GOOD job, not great.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
How much of that 40 do you think
goes back to how the program had slipped while being non-conference?? I think some of The Ville’s struggles have been directly related to joining conference play….especially since the Big East deal
Remember, were having fun now!!!
He Took UK At The Depths Of Probation
UK in 1989 <<<<< Louisville in 2001.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to discount
what Crum did, but it was a lot easier to go the Final Four in the 70s in a 25 or 32-team tournament than it is today. Only once did Crum get to the Final Four in a 64 team tournament.
Actually Not So
It was tougher to get INTO the tournament then.
The teams who did were better than many teams in a 64 team field.
Crum > Pitino in my book.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont want to start a fight here 40...
but …..I dont think that Louisville had to play the demanding kind of schedule that they do now….
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Sure They Did
Crum was famous for tough OOC schedules then.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only tougher...
but without seeding, the East and Mideast were always loaded with most of the top ten teams.
personal opinion
but i feel crum at his peak > pitino
pitino currently > crum in his last few years
Tough depended on conference
If you were in the ACC it was tough. If you were in the MVC it wasn’t so tough. Crum went 46-8 in his first 4 years there. He then went 49-8 in his first few years in the Metro. They were the dominant team of both conferences in the pre-64 team tournament.
Once they got in the tournament it was like having teams seeded 1-4 and then teams seeded 13-16. There were no at-large bids.
As an example, in 1972 Louisville beat Southwest Louisiana and Kansas State to advance to the Final Four. Not exactly a murderer’s row of teams.
me too. Barnhart really looks feeble. I wouldnt want to work for him. He has gotten us into this mess. But I dont wanna be negative.
The dude should just worry about all the other sports on campus including football. We should hire somebody else to take care of the basketball program. . . like Issel.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
Lots of people seemed to write off UNC earlier in the season
they look pretty good to me. I think I am going to root for Nova in the Final Four
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
lets take A poll...
Just for fun, lets say that UK can have either Izzo or Calipari…
Which one would get your vote…
I’ll vote 1st: Izzo
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
I think you know where I stand
Coach Calipari….he was 1st choice in 2007 also
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Calipari First
Izzo loses photo finish.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Izzo....but
its really REALLY close….whats the old saying in NASCAR….if you aint cheating you aint racing?
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Thank God....
In NASCAR being the 83rd best team doesnt even get you into the racetrack….
Remember, were having fun now!!!
I would take either..
but if Cal had U K ’s resources we could relly whup some ass…
I think youre right . . .
but id hate to get in trouble with some of the alleged activity that cal takes part in with regards to certain personalities in the basketball qorld.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
First genuine laugh...
I’ve had for several days. And Robert Montegomery Knight really seems to have developed a sense of humor about himself.
If U K were to hire Cal..
i’m sure their would be a clause in the contract if caught breaking the rules your gone..
unless Barnhart really is the biggest fool in the history of creation
Remember, were having fun now!!!
If, and that's a big IF....
…he has cheated in the past, he doesn’t have too anymore… His name is well know and Many kids out there want to play for him…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
I hadn't thought about him until you just mentioned it....I bet he is crushed
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Hey Tru...
I’m sure you have touched on this somewhere throughout the blog, but how do you feel about Calipari? I know there are some grey areas with him, and I respect your opinions a great deal, so I just wanted to see what you thought.
(If you have discussed this at length, just ignore my question or point me in that direction : )
This might be just a fool's folly...
and completely insane, but what about Stallings?? Vandy has always been a clean and well run program….he gets good kids……would he be able to recruit the very best at UK??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
I havent slept in about three weeks....lol.....
Im not just reaching, Im losing it!!!……this is insane!!!….We are KENTUCKY….we should only have to open the doors and pick who we want!!!!…..its our birthright!!!!…..someone call Coach Rupp back from the grave and let him fix this mess
Remember, were having fun now!!!
That Hasn't Been The Case (Pick Who We Want) In 60 Years
Sounds like you slept longer than you thought (3 weeks).
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
With the exception of Sutton...and now BCG
when did we ever NOT get who we wanted???…Hall was groomed….Pitino was CM’s 1st…and some say only pick….Tubby was the recommended (by Pitino) choice….
Remember, were having fun now!!!
I am pretty sure Lute Olson turned down UK before they got to Pitino....
in fact I think RP was their 3rd choice.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
You are probally right..
wait until you hit 50 40 and you lose a little…lol
Not Accurate
Pitino recommended RALPH WILLARD not Tubby – ask CM Newton.
Players (slightly) preferred Donovan. Newton wanted Tubby.
Olson first, Carlesimo second, Pitino third on the list in 1989.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I stand corrected....
on the Pitino part….but Tubby WAS the school’s choice….and wasnt Carlesimo’s name removed from the list as soon as it went on for “other” reasons?? I understood that he had PRO aspirations from the start.
Remember, were having fun now!!!
No
Carlesimo visited Uk campus and was offered the job. He declined the offer.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Among Other Reasons
UK asked him to shave his beard.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Please understand....I dont claim
to know anyone, or to have “sources” I just go by what I have been told by everyone I have known over the years and friends that attended UK and keep up with things
Remember, were having fun now!!!
CM Newton Was Quoted About 10 Years Ago
Probably can still Google and find it.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I do remember..
CM said if no one took the job he would and bring Macy along and groom him for the position..
read this
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2006/9/20/205213/051
If you’re from Kentucky, it’s sure to piss you off
Kevin was crying..
on 104.5 out of Nash about U K going to the NIT and Vandy not…
he always does that...
I prefer George and the afternoon crew there….
My vote
Calipari. Izzo is wonderful, but I don’t see him leaving MSU…..
Larry Vaught
reporting that a meeting has occured with Calipari.John Clay on his blog today says his source that a A list candidate will be named UK coach by this week.Clay believes it to be Calipari.
Forty....do you believe Mitch (and the selection commitee)
has, in fact, contacted anyone yet?
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
No Idea
Guessing, I think they have contacted at least 2 coaches.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in Florida......
where your vote counts….and counts…….and counts……..Izzo would be good but if Calipari can be controlled in terms of staying within the rules, a team with JM, PP, Orton, Hood and maybe a couple of Calipari recruits could be just what the doctor ordered.
I wonder if Ashley Judd is available....maybe we can send her down to Memphis
it couldn’t hurt
;-)
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Not So Many
But she was at UNC game this season.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
She was also at the Vandy in Nashville game last year.
She might want to stop, lol.
by BBallSophist on Mar 29, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that
Then when I saw her at the UNC game this year and they lost (naturally) I thought “bad mojo”
I think Seth is a #2. If Jodie Meeks stays, UK is set for next year at that position.
What is frustrating right now is that UK cannot possibly be part of any conversation (understandably)
with ANY promising recruit, like Seth, because of the current train wreck at UK basketball.
by blue oregon on Mar 29, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This much is fact....
Not one person on this or any other blog would be willing to take a stand of saying they know they are 100% accurate on a prediction if their career was on the line concerning this coaching move….am I wrong??
Remember, were having fun now!!!
Wrong...
…I predict with 100% certainty that UK will have a new coach next year…!!!
Now take that..! :-)
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
OK....you got me!!!!
meanwhile…..back at the ranch…….lol….if i hear someone call themselves or their information “insider” again…I am going to puke….or kill…..or start playing guitar hero metallica…..!!!!!……
Remember, were having fun now!!!
My Goodness....
…Tiger Woods had made a deal with the Devil and I know it…
This guy is a FREAK….
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Augusta native on board
Live in augusta year round …. azeleas are beginning to bloom and the Tiger show is coming to town. The best part of the year to me … Final Four and Masters so close together – ahh spring time
I think the government did some funky stuff with that mans body..how bout that rumor :)
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Mark...
me down for Cal Vince.
Matt Jones is reporting that he believes the goal is to have the new coach in place by the end of the week. Yeah, I know, he went out on a pretty big limb there.
not really...
Calipari is the sexy pick..
Izzo is the safe pick…
Either would be very sucessful…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
sexy
haha..well…Calipari is nice looking.
If he does come to UK, the next nationally televised game I go to I’m making a sign that says:
C (calipari)
B (bringing)
S (sexy)
Yeah, my guess is the cameras would mysteriously miss it if it was an ESPN game ;-)
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Maybe you should just start a fanpost Vince
Make it easier to track. I know Ken already did a breakdown, but you could go more in depth, like listing NBA players, etc.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
You can do polls in fanposts too
That way you don’t have to count them yourself and keep posting the results.
Yeah, that's what I meant
Thanks btc, I guess I could have explained that better. ;-)
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
I would love to have that skill...
…but writing is not my major… lol
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
It's not hard
Just look it up on statsheet.com and list the names, maybe repost the salient info from Ken’s post (be sure to give due credit!) and anything else you can think of that might be relevant in the comparison.
Come on, you know you want to!
Do it. Do it.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
I did the poll... lol
…What more do you want… ? My blood..? lol
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Come on vince, you're a regular!
Time to get on board with the whole fanpost thing.
You did a fine job with the poll though.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Hey ...
… don’t bad-mouth import-export. That’s what I do!
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Tru
No offense intended. This is the line that movies give gangsters when they can’t openly talk about how they make money.
UNC
Hansbrough NCAAT career:
Freshman: 2nd round loss to George Mason (God bless the Patriots)
Sophomore: Elite 8 loss to Georgetown
Junior: FF loss to Kansas
After their loss last year, I joked with some friends that this rate, UNC would lose in the Championship game this season. I think UConn will likely make that a reality, though I’m not giving up on ’Nova just yet.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Don't forget
The new ESPN contract goes into effect for the SEC next season. How many Memphis games were on national TV? EVERY game Cal coached here would be on national tv.
That makes a huge difference in resources available to him.
NCAAT wins list
CBS has been showing a graphic during UNC games in the tournament with the leaders in all-time wins in tournament play. It has UK listed at 98 with UNC just winning their 100th game today. But in other places I’ve looked (for instance: here) UK already has 100 wins (there are some other differences as well). Does anyone know why there would be a discrepancy?
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
ESPN mentioned something about this tonight...
…(2) wins where taken away for some reason…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
were any tournament wins taken away as part of sanctions?
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Calipari
Here’s some food for thought:
“In spring of 2006 he considered leaving for North Carolina State. He decided to stay, but let’s be honest, N.C. State isn’t Kentucky.”
" Memphis hasn’t lost a conference game in three years and doesn’t appear to be letting up any time soon."
Finally a chance for CAL to prove himself with the big boys … his recruits are coming because of him … it’s his style of play … he can sell UK easier than Memphis
Hope we don’t wind up with some coach who’s trying to get out of a football school
As I said earlier...
why leave a school that has no competition in conference play and go to one that does.The only way he will leave Memphis is if Memphis went to the Big East or ACC but I wouldn’t want a coach to come in that case,shows that he is running away from real competition.Heck if thats all we need is a coach that can win…any votes for Pat Summit?
by yearofthecat on Mar 29, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We all want more.
I think a fundamental part of being human is the desire to leave a legacy that will last well beyond your lifetime. When it comes time to compare legacies, I think I can safely say that a UK legacy in the basketball world would be greater than a Memphis legacy if all else were equal. Say Calipari stayed forever, long enough for them to name a building or court after him and hung 2 or 3 more banners. Say he did the same at Memphis. Which in the realm of basketball legacies would be considered better? I know my answer.
Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi
Agree
These guys have a chance to be mentioned with the greats in their profession … you don’t find that at memphis like you would at UK or UCLA … hope he’ll take our offer
Hey ukcris...
I am in Augusta as well. Good to hear from another Cat fan here.
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ricky p
what the hell is ricky p’s problem? who is he to be talking about who should or shouldnt get the uk job?
I think it's just a courtesy
to former players … he helped Donovan get the Florida job too … and probably put in a good word for Tubby here as well .. I don’t think Rick burned bridges when he left – I wish he had stayed
I have to disagree. Courtesy, in my opinion, would be to
help former players with a private phone call or a letter of reference. To give his “two cents” in the newspaper on the next UK hire is not the University of Louisville Head Basketball Coach’s concern.
After all UK and U of L compete at least once a year, at times we compete for the same recruits and then there was the defection to the NBA and a return to Louisville.
by blue oregon on Mar 29, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the reason RP has 'commented' is his fear
of competition from big bro. he knows if calipari/izzo were to come the pitino years at UK would be past. cal would out recruit and dominate the KY landscape for years to come and the ego couldn’t handle it…he fears another ‘man possessed’ article by SI.
by bigbluewyatt on Mar 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
should we say
“Give it a rest” (vitamin water)
by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 29, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay Wright
What about Jay Wright? Think he would be interested?
Doubtful
There was a story on Jay just a few days ago … he has built Nova back into the national spotlight one brick at a time .. he has a great recruiting base and facilities – he said then he wouldn’t be interested in leaving for another job … that said, I like think he would be a good fit here just don’t think he’ll leave
Calipari and his ‘connections’
http://billyreedsays.com/2008/04/07/memphis-has-worldwide-wes-to-thank/
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=5988
And this is the guy you want running OUR Wildcat program? REALLY??
Marcus Camby
“acknowledges having taken thousands of dollars in cash and gifts from agents, in violation of NCAA rules, while he was an All-America at Massachusetts”
And his coach (the guy you want running OUR program) was oblivious……..
Re: rixter
No offense, but I’d trust OJ Simpson’s word over Billy Reed’s. Reed doesn’t have a lot of credibility around here.
I didn’t read the link, but I don’t have to.
I’m not saying that Calipari is a saint, but Billy Reed’s thoughts mean nothing to me.
by Ken Howlett on Mar 30, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The assumption is that WWWes is a bad guy seems strange to me.
I’m not saying he is or isn’t, but I don’t get the sense that he is a malevolent guy from that article. He’s a guy with a lot of influence and power, no doubt, but he doesn’t seem evil.
by BBallSophist on Mar 30, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Worldwide Wes is not really a bad guy.
But he has a lot of them on speed dial.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
West Coast Time-60 minutes LBJ
WOW! Did Labron ever consider a basketball college?
Calipari (spelling?)
Just a little info. ESPN.com reports mutual interests between Cal and UK. The info said UK is gathering info on Cal this weekend. Nothing big, just a little info.
Lane
Anybody know where to find the MSU-UL post-game press conference
video or audio?
It’s supposed to be here:
http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=ncaa&media=111510
but it’s not working for me
Come on
This whole Cal thing……….are we really going to go with a guy that has a problem with the press yet AGAIN? I don’t think they will go that way. I really really don’t. Calipari is a jerk yall. Memphis Wildcat please back me up on this. I cannot believe that my fellow Cat fans want this guy over Pelphrey. Maybe I am to sentimental but I want someone here who truly cares and truly understands what I feel for my Cats. I felt this way about Pitino and Tubby. I felt like they really didn’t get it. I got so ticked off at Pitino going after yankee boys(sorry NYC Cat) instead of southern boys who understood about Kentucky basketball. Tubby the same thing. I think that is one of the things I did like about BCG. He seemed to understand us better then any coach since Joe B Hall. He has more Kentucky boys then I have seen in awhile(albeit walkons but still). I know I am going to get “fortied” on this but its just the way I feel.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
me too.....
Pitino is great coach, but some of his recruits don’t care for anything but the I in TEAM nowadays. ( cough, cough.* ) That is a lot of why they just got beat today. They don’t shoot that good and never did, but they made up for it w/great D and passing a lot to the post, but they reverted to “playground ball” and “superstar ball” again today and were beaten, when they could have Won the whole shootin’ match. They have been playing the best ball of any team for about the last 3 weeks. What happened? They don’t have guys w/heart, but guys who all try to impress the Pro scouts. (T.Will ).
That is what is Wrong about Pitino and Calipari and Izzo. Too many McDonalds inner city Americans, and not enough “Unforgettables”. That is what Pitino has forgotten. That, more than anything else, is why we loved him to begin with. A state needs to feel its team and know them. When you bring in imports who call us small towners and hillbillys, talking about how much they hate rural KY life, and then they stink, Expect a backlash, where we will still love our Own somewhat> This is the nature of family. I always love the players individually, but they should appreciate an opportunity that rural KY kids would almost DIE for! I would have eaten bread and water for a year to play at KY, but I’m from KY! I suspect I’m not alone………
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
no
your not…….and you know what……..Pel will know how to recruit kids…..he lived the dream. I can just sit here and imagine him pointing to his name and showing some kid what Kentucky did for him. I don’t know how many of you saw the special on foxsports a few years ago but it was about the unforgettables and each one of them spoke about everything. Pel was the best at it and I could just picture him in the livingroom telling this story of some all american.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
BUT.....Pitino was a NObody when he came here..........
So, doesn’t that prove that a good coach is a good coach? I like watching Ford and Pelphrey’s teams compete. They coach very much like Rick does. Pelphrey’s defense is a mirror image.
HOWEVER, …….The BEST choice is another KY boy, and a Lexington native, AND a proven winner…….. (( DARRIN HORN )) . Just LOOK at his coaching and recruiting resume. He is already a proven winner. His old team (W. KY) lost a tough game to Gonzaga, which would have put them in the Sweet 16 2 yrs. in a row, quite a feat for a small conf. school! He was Great at SC this year, and his stock is only going to rise. He just has to be pushed hard for anyone at UK to take notice. Ky may live to regret not going after him, as they have to play him twice every year now at SC.
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
Darrin Horn.........in case I forgot to say it......
Darrin Horn of ( now at SC, Lex. native) . Didn’t anyone even watch one WKU game in the last 3 years. He has the Total package. Defense, Offense, Recruiting. Former players goe to NBA from a MAC conference school. Orlando Magic #2 in East right now w/former WKU draftee. Let’s not let him get away.
Let ’em Hear-It!
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I really
liked what he did at SC and I loved watching him coach last year in the NCAA. He did an outstanding job. I just don’t think he would leave S.C. after one year and I would hope he wouldn’t.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
No He WASN'T
He took Providence to FF in 1987. He took NY Knicks into NBA playoffs in 1989.
Ford or Pelphrey (now) would be HUGE mistakes by UK.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
More of a mistake than West Texas Billy G.? Also, why (now)? What is the problem with now? A guy can either coach or he can’t. He either has integrity or he doesn’t.
Example : Mark Few of Gonzaga.
He won’t be there in Small conference, can’t get a REF call to save him- misery forever……
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
What about MARK FEW ? , for that matter.
i don’t count the loss to UNC, the other day. The referees ended that game before it began. UNC got took 30 free throws to Gonzaga’s 13 free throws! What a joke! I watched that game, and you couldn’t even breath hard on UNC’s players without drawing out the “paid-for” whistle! UNC was up nearly 20 w/5:00 left in first half. JOKE! Refs. ruin basketball….
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
i stand corrected, .....but.....
you have to admit that his past performances, in light of them, couldn’t fortell what he would eventually do in his KY tenure…….a tenure which will put him Consistently in the ranks of the coaching elite, right up there with the Knights and K’s, etc…..This could not be extrapolated from Providence and the Knicks. I’ve been watching UK a long time too. I remember the Sutton years. It hardly made news when Pitino was hired, BECAUSE we didn’t fully realize his capability. Therefore, in my humble opinion, relatively speaking, he was an unknown.
by REFs ruin BBall on Mar 30, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
CALIPARI!!!!!!!
please say it’s so!
waiting on a new banner being raised into the rafters of Rupp..........
Hoze King
Haven’t seen your red bird avatar today. Did the drunk neighbors house burn to the ground while you were at the wedding?
Question?
Did anyone else read the interview at BCG presser,they talked with a lady with a shirt with a G ON IT . sOUNDS LIKE tINK TO ME.
I think the midnight hour
got my keyboard. She was a big BCG fan and wore the shirt she described she wore to Memorial. It gave her real name but it ment nothing to me. Sure sounded like Tink.
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