Gillispie Era Over at UK
by JL Blue on Mar 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT
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PrintESPN, multiple local sources reporting Billy Gillispie will not be back as the coach at Kentucky.
The Herald-Leader reporting an 18-minute meeting took place between Gillispie, UK President Lee Todd and others at the President's mansion on campus, after which Gillispie was seen getting into a vehicle with Texas A&M tags and leaving.
More as it comes...
Orestes Meeks, Jodie's father, shares some surprising and interesting comments that make it seem like this was coming for some time, or at least has more behind it than we maybe realized.
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Yay first?
ugh
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by Anything but Gatorade on Mar 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
SRSLY though
what do we do now? There has got to be an ace in the hole or we’re in for some serious trouble.
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by Anything but Gatorade on Mar 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
Lookin' good
I didn’t mind Gillispie to be honest, but man, if we can for sure land Donovan, we’ve gotta do it. Of course the media is already making fun of us saying we’re Notre Dame and that we should have kept Tubby. I’m going to slam this a-hole: http://www.sportsjournalismtoday.com/archive/archiveswhole/2009bymonth/09march/09march27.html
by hadoomystery on Mar 27, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Still Not Official But ...
if true, it’s gotta be really hard on the players having to go through 2 coaching changes in 3 years. I feel bad for Coach G too.
HERE'S THE LINK
to the article @ ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4021232
I hope
the person driving the truck that dropped off and picked up Billy was a lovely and sweet woman, who cares even more about him than Tinkerbell does, and who treats him with tender loving care for the next few days. I would hate for him to be alone. I think Coach Billy Clyde give it a hell of a try under very difficult circumstances and for that he deserves our respect.
Yeah, wow Orestes. Sheesh.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
For crying out loud,
Jodie is an adult, now. Maybe his coach doesn’t need to call daddy anymore.
Telling...
… this story has a lot more to be written.
Maybe there is a lot more to the “off court” stuff than we ever wanted to believe.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
Doubt it.
I’m guessing it’s just referred to as “on- and off-the-court issues,” and no further detail is given.
One way to avoid getting into the whole buyout mess is just for UK to offer him something less than the $6 million ($2 or $3 maybe), and everyone sign confidentiality clauses, no one talks about it again.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
If I'm Gillespie
I go to court for every penny and make UK look like idiots for years. Let this resurface every six months or so.
Yeah, that's...that's something right there...
by BBallSophist on Mar 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If Meeks felt that way,
how did the rest of the team feel?
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for BCG
but he had the opportunity and did not take care of it properly. Let’s hope we can get the ship going in the right direction quickly.
That's what she said.
billy gone
tv wkyt will be announced at 430 estime. uk will annonce firing at 430 eastern time on wkyt
I have given up
trying to work today.
I’m ready for all this to be behind us. Go Big Blue!
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
As a Louisville fan
I hope it ends up being Donovan, for the rivalry’s sake. Good luck boys.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....
As a UK fan
I couldn’t agree more. Nothing like sluggin’ it out with the Cards.
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, gotta make it home in time for the conference. Heh.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Don't shed any tears for Billy G...
I too, wanted him to stay. But six million dollars can cure any heartache he might be having….
I'm sure not
I work for KCTCS and was just told in a meeting that we won’t have so much as a cost of living increase for the 3rd straight year. The idea that they’re going to pay him 6 million after the royal mess he made of things makes me sick.
True, but ...
… do you bring in triple your salary a year in donations, concessions and such?
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
KY basketball
brings in the money, not the coach. UK basketball would bring in the money if Homer Simpson was the coach. Do you think people go to Rupp Arena because of Billy Clyde?
I don't think the state is paying $6M - you're comparing apples/oranges.
by bluegrassgal on Mar 27, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Private funds
athletic booster funds have nothing to do with the rest of the university. I know it’s sickening but the sport is a money maker for the school.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
It's not sickening in my opinion. UK didn't vet the guy properly and now they can pay up.
As a great believer in the free market, I say if you can get $6M from an employer, good for you.
by bluegrassgal on Mar 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope their servers are better than Mat Jones' and the LHL
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
bg
coach was just to introverted for this job. His stubborness and personality was just too much for UK. He did this to himself. I think he is a decent coach but UK was way out of his league. Go big blue and good luck to G and god willing we will get D.
wow crazy day
Dont know quite how I feel BUT it’s a lot less bitter than the Tubby departure. From the sounds of things it looks like we have a better shot at keeping Meeks for another season providing he likes the new coach.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
I don't know...
I didn’t feel as upset cause Tubby left on his own. I’m sick to my stomach cause we pretty much fired the guy after to years. Wow… just wow.
Upset
I was upset Tubby was gone becuase I like him a lot but not necessarilly upset at the school. THe Billy G departure leaves me a lot less sad. I do hope he succeeds wherever he goes though.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Don't Be Upset For Tubby
He’s happier than I’ve seen him in the 9 years since I met him.
I don’t have much doubt G will be successful and happy somewhere else, too.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
40--there you are
Who will jump at the chance to hire Billy Clyde? Do you think he has something in the wings lined up?
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
NC State is reportedly very interested.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
that might be a good match
I could see him fitting in there.
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
and save the awkwardness
of him being in the SEC
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I would
say that Billy would not be unemployed long
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
UVA is an elite public university.
They only accept around 30% of all applicants.
I would LOVE to watch the Texan handle living in THAT town. Picture that press conference!
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
PP likes Donavon
Donavon and Patersons parents are friends atleast that is what Donavon said last year
i think i remember
UK and UF being his final two. UK happens to be much closer to home.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on Mar 27, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Read the second article I posted ...
… There is much more to this story.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
I
will, and I’m sure there is. I was just making a comment based more on outside perception.
Is it August yet?
No doubt.
Most of the national articles I’ve read have already painted the fans as the primary scapegoates. It’s pretty irritating.
by BBallSophist on Mar 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We dont know all of the facts yet
BG could have done something off the court that UK is afraid it is going to go public. There is more to this lets just control our temptaions
WKYT
Billy G has announced his own news conference for tommorow morning at 11am
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
that's seems odd
very irregular, unless he is just going to take the high road and say the BBN has great fans…????
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously not
if he’s getting his own presser, my bet is he lays into UK fans and admin
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If we have a good coach lined up
This is accually a relief to me andI honestly think this was the right decision. G was never going to change and why should he. MB should have looked closer at BG before hiring him. He can still be a good coach that did not mesh with uk
barnhart
just read that he already wrapped with the players – and orestes is likely happy now
PPat would have played for him anyway
by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Bromley
Im at home on paternity leave and watching Bromley’s report live. Watching this man is painful. According to them live on air Billy called the newstation and has requested his own new conference tommorow at 11am.
Mitch B just left the lodge having rapped up his address to the players.
Watching this coverage is crazy. I really find it amazing that this is such a spectacle. You would think that their was some major disaster due to all the attention.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Rotary Club Snub
in 07 probably set the tone. I don’t think this split has anything to do with coaching or x’s and o’s I see a coach that was unwilling to do what was expected as the head coach of the greatest basketball programs of all time. His job was much more than coaching. Media skills just added fuel to the fire. " I am who I am" only goes so far. Also blame goes to the search committee unless he just lied to them about who he was and what he was willing to do off-court.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...Hunter S. Thompson
ok
I go to the grocery store and all hell breaks loose! WOW! Especially Meeks dad!!! WOW!!! To me that is more suprising then him being let go. Maybe Meeks will stay on.
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
keep filling us in, please
for all of us who can’t see Lexington TV
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Mitch has some explaining to do
I don’t need gory details, but a mea culpa would be a nice start. Some honesty would be a nice change given two weeks of stone silence.
ATL radio
is claiming this is totally false..just heard a UF official say this is not happening..
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
was reported on WKYT
that BIlly D is not interested.
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 27, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
KSR
has also mentioned Billy D as the new coach.
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Billy G
Oh wow…now why is Billy G holding a presser @ 11am tomorrow morning??
can you imagine what someone as gruff as he is wouldhave to say the morning after getting canned?
and if he’s on a bender?!?!?
someone just send him a keg of Pabst and hopefully he’ll sleep through the PC and we can have Billy D enter clean w/no skidmarks from BG
WOW
OH MY GOSH! Whats his name that is on the golf course……….he was right on!
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
http://www.wkyt.com/home/misc/3927621.html
watch live news here
Sheesh
Well, it’s over and at this point whether it’s a “good” decision or not, it’s probably the only possible way this could have ended given the last couple months.
I’m an optimist and I hoped everything would work out, but if in fact Billy Donovan is the new head coach that is going to be hard for me to adjust to – too much time spent rooting against the Gators, too much time laughing at the year-after-year underachieving with supposedly top players.
>sigh<
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
National Title Appearances since 2000
Donovan—3
UK—————0
I wouldn’t laugh for long…
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
There's no denying that he did a good job in 2000 and caught lightning in the bottle in 06-08
But you also can’t just ignore the chronic underachieving in the other 7 years in the decade.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
We didn't exactly
overachieve ourselves this decade.
by TheManInTheBrownSuit on Mar 27, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Billy D or Not
Given the negative PR raining down on UK. Billy D= players staying, more recruits staying and some stability in this fire storm
Yeah, there really cannot be a "Plan B" at this point.
Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)
Hard to believe UK would fire Gillispie without a solid idea who the next coach is.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not the point
Billy Donovan’s track record is of someone who brings in highly regarded players and 7 times out of 10 either fails to get past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament or fails to make the tournament all together. He’s not likely to get better players at UK than he was getting at Florida and there’s no reason to think he’s going to become a better coach either.
Could he get the right combination and make a run at a FF? Sure. But all the other times we can look forward to first/second round exits or NIT appearances.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Yes, Billy D may or may not be the uber coach we are looking for
He’s had amazing success—in the years he had success. But how many seasons did the gators get knocked out of the first round of the NCAA?
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now...
I think the important thing to remember is that the media loves him. We need a shot of good PR right now more than we need an immediate return to the Final Four.
Besides… we now need a coach. Who else you gonna go after?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
agreed.
the coaches at Duke, UNC, and KU aren’t going anywhere, and who else could you confidently say is prepared to take the reins at Kentucky (oh, yeah, that guy in L’ville) but besides him, being Kentucky’s coach is like being President of the US. No one is ever truly qualified for the job (unless he held it before) because there is no other job like it.
by StillCatwoman on Mar 27, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's an interesting question
Would you have taken Florida’s run since 2000 (3 final game appearances, 2 NCs, but also a lot of NIT) over ours?
I probably would, but I could see how others would disagree. . .
Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)
Yes yes I would take it....2 NC's would alleviate 2 NIT's
I think the NIT should never happen at UK but if they were after 2 NC’s, I would less angry
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
This is something I've often pondered
I think I would prefer the lower variance of what UK did during 00’s over the high variance of Florida.
It’s not like UK was just plodding along this decade – we had one of the all-time great teams that came a sprain away from a NC. The 2003-04 team was good as was the 04-05 team. The 2001-2002 squad wasn’t that bad either. I’ll take that consistency over the “who knows?” of Florida.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
I did like Tubby
And “lower variance” is not the same as “mediocre” in fact they are completely different, unrelated ideas.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
sorry, that came out a bit different than I intended
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Exactly true
There’s no right answer – to each his own taste.
Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)
A lot of this, for me, is based on experiences with teams in other sports
I’m particularly sensitive to the role that randomness/luck plays in the outcome of a sporting event. Contrary to popular belief, the best team doesn’t always win and players are not in complete control of the outcome of a game.
The ball bounces one way and team A wins, it bounces the other way and team B wins. The best you can do is to mitigate that effect as much as possible.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
D...
hearing that Billy D is already in Lex and ready to chat at 4:30
"Great Hire"
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2007/4/6/95352/85553
Near unanimous praise for the hire two years ago, the revisionist history by some is regrettable.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Guilty as charged ...
… Hey, did you think the guy you saw this year was the same guy?
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
God Put Eyes On The Front Of Our Head For a Reason
Look forward, not back.
Anybody can predict the past.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 27, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't
None of us knew enough about him to know about his penchant for being surly in interviews and generally disagreeable all around.
His stubbornness in game was also something I did not expect.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Wasn't trying to impugn you at all.
Some said now say it was a bad hire and blame UK, while I heard very few concerns at the time of the hire.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Impugn away ...
… Hey, he had me going.
I actually would have been fine had he returned, honestly. Assuming he was above board.
I’m curious now these Meeks’ dad comments, though. Seems maybe we saw only a lot of the outside stuff.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
Yeah.
I am really anxious to see what so infuriated Todd. Hard to imagine it would just be W and L or media relations.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If enough players and parents voiced
complaints or concerns over what was happening behind the scenes, this could have been a considerable factor when combined with everything else that was going on.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
I just hope
that Todd had concrete reasons for firing BCG and not because he bruised a bunch of egos (Lexington rotary club, some media, etc.)
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that is really the fear
If he was fired just because he wouldn’t play ball with the good ol’ boys then it will be another blackeye for the program.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
Yeah, but it's bound to happen
Good point, Thomas, but what can you say, it happens. I, even now, don’t think Gillispie is a bad coach. But, like any job, if you’re a jerk to your bosses — to the people who pay you — you’re not going to stick around all that long. Billy buried himself.
by hadoomystery on Mar 27, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in Alabama and hearing
that the reason it took so long was to confirm with Billy Donovan that he will resign and come to UK. This is big down here because of Alabama offering Anthony Grant the HC position and now they are saying that Florida has also confirmed that Anthony Grant will replace Donovan. IF this is true, we should be excited. LETS GO CATS!
hadn't read through all the posts on here yet,
but I heard it’s a done deal with Donovan coming to UK and Grant is going to Florida. Is that what everyone else is hearing and the only saving grace in this whole thing is if it is Donovan or another BIG NAME coach coming to UK.
sorry to repost if this has already been said
GO CATS!!!!!
If UK brings in a name coach (say Billy D for example)
I really believe UK wouldn’t lose a beat with 90% of our current and future recruits. UK may even to be able to get more involved with other better recruits. It sounds like Meeks wasn’t happy with BCG so he would be more likely to stay and Patterson would have no problem playing for said coach.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Speechless
I think he deserved at least one more year to set up his system. I just hope we as a UK fanbase don’t throw a huge celebration like we did for BCG when he came in. Now it make us look like a bunch of asses.
UL Football Fan/UK Basketball Fan ~ Shreveport Louisiana
by The White Mandingo on Mar 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
It is done
too late on the appearance of asses. Must move forward
Yep.
I’ll certainly cheer for him where ever he lands. I genuinely wish him the best.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
talking about
the change…………….said it was the players……..He is also saying that Donovan is NOT coming to UK
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
No Donovan?
Uh oh – get ready for the riots. . .
Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)
Check this out.....
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=73147211018&h=sC4YU&u=yZao3&ref=nf
Florida station reporting Donovan resigns
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Per the link.....take it for what you will
A source close to the University of Kentucky athletic program tells Fox 35 Sports that Billy Donovan will resign as Florida Gators’ head basketball coach to take the same position at Kentucky.
The University of Kentucky has called a 4:30PM press conference in which the school is expected to announce the firing of head basketball coach Billy Gillispie. Kentucky has reportedly waited until a replacement coach is in place before letting go of Gillispie, who spent two seasons in Lexington.
Donovan led the Gators to back-to-back NCAA men’s basketball championships in 2006 and 2007. After the ’07 championship, Donovan agreed to become the head coach of the Orlando Magic, but changed his mind a few days later and returned to Gainesville.
The Gators have not made the NCAA tournament in either of the past two seasons.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
That's what was said in the report linked above
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Andy Katz on ESPN News.
“Not just about wins and loses”
“A number of issues.”
“Not being able to handle being the Kentucky basketball coach.”
“Mitch Barnhart should really be responsible as well”
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds like he and I agree
Its nice to hear that the mainstream media may actually be getting the story right and not just pinning it on the fans.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
apologies if this is already up here somewhere
“a twin-jet Cessna took off from St. Augustine this morning (near Donovan’s beach home in Crescent Beach), landed in Lexington around 1:20 and is already headed back to Naples.”
Fits with his dad saying
“He’s at the beach, as far as I know.”
Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)
God... I feel like I'm in a bad sci-fi movie
I hit my head and when I woke up it was 2007…
Are we seriously engaged in airplane watching again?!!?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Are you aware that there is a basketball game on tonight?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
There Is?
I thought Kentucky’s season was over after we lost to Notre Dame?
I could be wrong, but I think it will be hard to play with no coaches, unless donovan’s already scheduled an exhibition.
Ohhhh…. THAT basketball game.
by aidanpryde18 on Mar 27, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still bitter about 1997
I’ll root for UofL tonight and then for the winner of KU/MSU on Sunday!!!
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Ditto that here!
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
HozeKing
10 years ago I would rather have a pinkie chopped off than root for UofL but I have softened. In fact, I drew UofL in a blind draw and it pays well. Money talks you know.
Plus as I told you yesterday I picked them in preseason to win it all.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
It's never too late to grow as an individual :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
that plane only stayed in LEX for 46 mins....arrived from st. augustine
…on the ground at 1318 out of the gate at 1404……very interesting…back to naples
I checked
out Orlando Sentinel and Gainesville Sun…….nothing………..also I take back what Katz said about Donovan…..he is just saying he doesn’t think he will come not ……….He is NOT coming
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Sucks
- Really thought Gillispie would succeed at Kentucky. I actually would love to see him in Houston and get Penders outta there. He has the Texas connections to succeed, and his grating personality would be fine at a place where they don’t care about basketball…at least, not until Phi Slamma Jamma comes back into town.
- Not sure why people are hating on Donovan. Show me another coach who’s got two national championships (or even one) that would remotely sniff Kentucky right now, and I’ll give you a dollar. Donovan would be a great hire.
- Keep your hands off Rick Barnes, please! You know I love Kentucky, but Barnes has a great thing going at Texas. We’re talking championship potential.
Texas Tech?
Hell, they put up with Bob Knight. Pat Knight ain’t gettin’ er’ done.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
Talked To B12 Coaching Friend About That
He says Pat Knight is OK (set) at Texas Tech.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Conflicting Reports
The Orlando station says Donovan is going to UK, but I spent 22.5 years growing up in Orlando and I can tell you it’s not the best source.
The St. Pete Times says Donovan’s father told them that Billy D is at his vacation home in Crescent Beach and not in Kentucky.
Pick which one you want to believe, but as a Floridian (and not the part that’s a Gator fan) I would put more faith in the St. Pete Times than Fox 35 Orlando.
I never trust the local Fox affiliate for news
But that may just be because WDRB out of Louisville always seems like the generic bastard child of the Louisville news teams.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
What
I really want to know is this..do they think we really believe that a decision was made in eighteen minutes?
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Remember last time we were looking for a coach?
we talked about Donovan, Rick Barnes, Mike Bray… and I forgot who else, but Billy Gillispie was a surprise to me, and to a few other fans, too, I think. Maybe the plan is a name none of us are even considering….
surely they won't......
make the same mistake? again……i definitely think the hire will be someone that has been mentioned, just not sure who.
Billy D Vs Ricky P
As if the confrontation didn’t already have enough to boost it. Could be UL vs UK rises to match UNC vs Duke. Wish Donovan could bring Kenny Boynton with him…that would cure many ills.
That's what I had hoped for when UofL hired Pitino
We were ranked #1 at the time and I thought it was just a matter of time before a historic match-up between the two…
And I was right! Just a year or two later, the teams met up for the first time ever when neither team was ranked! :-(
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
We are already
noted for being the biggest OOC rivalry in the nation. Unless we play in the same conference, I doubt we will ever get the press that UNC-Duke gets.
You know... if we go after Calipari...
John Wall is still uncommitted but was considering Kentucky before leaning towards Memphis…
Sounds like the best of both worlds to me!
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
maybe billy d can get him
unfortunately, evans had a good game in memphis’s loss last night so he will be gone and clear the way for Wall
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm salivating thinking about it....Coach Cal would mean a bright future.
Recruiting and all
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
A free flowing Memphis style offense with Jodie Meeks as the featured option...
With John Hood and Darius Miller on the wings would be a thing of beauty.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Can someone update highlights from the presser for those of us not able to see it?
Thanks.
The King is dead! Long live the King!
If Not Live
If you can’t see it live, ukathletics.com is posting excerpts after.
I was watching it online and it just went dead at 15:29
did this happen to anyone else?
Mitch
What I really want to know at this point is Mitch’s job status. When is his 18-minute meeting scheduled? I mean, regardless of what you think of him as a person, he can’t keep his job after this disaster, right?
by The Lexpatriate on Mar 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
Good question.
I think that’s a pressing question that deserves to be answered. Hard to know if Barnhart was just doing Todd’s bidding.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless
He has to take be held responsible for the one-man search committee and hire though, right?
by The Lexpatriate on Mar 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
If Todd was forceful enough to force his AD to fire Gillispie, he (Todd) must be mad as hell at his AD.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He has not handled the basketball situations well....
but like it or not….he has handled all the other sports well, in fact I would sayy better than any other AD
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
I agree on that
But unfortunately, the basketball (and football) programs are the bread and butter for the others.
by The Lexpatriate on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Evans Stays, Wall Someplace Else
John Wall has stated that if Tyreke Evans returns to Memphis then he (Wall) will look elsewhere. KU presumed favorite although Jayhawks feel they have Lance Stephenson locked.
I had a dream last night
where orton and hood stayed with kentucky despite gillispie leaving, and billy d brought boynton.
BTW, im memphis gets jon wall they will have the #1, #2, and #3 recruits in the country. according to rivals.com. That is beyond disgusting
Ode to Billy Donovan....
Oh you can’t get to heaven in an orange canoe
God’s favorite color is UK blue
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Will Donovan tip his hand to Grant?
If so, we should all expect Grant to turn the Alabama job in anticipation of an open UF job. Could be an early indication of Donovan’s intention.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Did not realize that.
Good find.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Fox (WDRB) in Louiville reporting
that Gillispie is out (duh) and “another coach” is resigning. . .
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
I've done about 15 minutes of actual real work today
I might as well pack it up. I’m too busy for this crap…but…can’t…stop…watching. The worse thing is that I work for myself so I don’t get paid for sitting at my computer doing nothing all day.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
Recruits fathere
Hood’s is dissapointed but understands is waiting to see what happens.
Orton wants to sit down and see what happens.
CJ is a Wildcat at heart and will probably not change
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
CJ?
You mean GJ? The guy Gillispie was recruiting at A&M and then signed at Kentucky?
I would think he’d be the least “attached” to UK. Although, he’s also the least likely to get another major college invite.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
If the meeting was only 18 minutes
there must have been predetermined negotiations with attorneys.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
Reading a formal statement looks juvenile.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
"Long and deliberate dissucions"
Fans “deserve a coach that understand that is not just another coaching job” (cheap and uncalled for)
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
thats what i thought..
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
No way will they answer questions,,,I don't think.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
he didn't represent UK the way they wanted him too
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
he didn't represent UK the way they wanted him too
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Mitch
says fans deserve coach who understands “this is not just another coaching job.”
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
"Philisophical disparity that cannot be repaired"
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
Is someone behind him turning a crank to get out the words?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Nope.
They’re pulling a string.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/032709source_donovan_leaving_UCF
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
repeating that the chemistry is not there.....
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
says not a place we expected to be at this time
doing this is in the best interest of the program and the student athletes. We obviously did not achieve the results we desired this year, and while we understand that that can happen there was a philosophical disparity that cannot be repaired.
Thank coach G and his staff, and best wishes.
Move forward. Will share details of search process as we move forward.
Again mentions the best interest of student athletes.
Takes questions.
"Converations over the past months"
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Wow...they are taking questions. That's courageous of them.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
that could be good.......
or that could make things worse…..i don’t know if i trust them to answer questions properly right now.
good, i like that they have the guts to do it
they have to try something, after letting the storm brew
"Do not regret hiring him"
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
I was glad to hear this
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 27, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
dramatic differences
… in where we wanted to be.
MB: I do not regret hiring Billy, but it was my responsibility.
The buyout —mentions the fact that the contract was never settled and will be in contact with Billy’s legal.
It will be less than the 6 million.
Not paying
complete buyout. B/c contract was never finalized. We’ll see how that goes.
Q. what's the buyout
MoU year to year agreement. Will work with counsel to determine buyout. “suffice it to say” less than $6 million.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
They are not agreeing to the $6M. Says the MOU is a year to year contract.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I think we're overlooking something big here
Seth Davis was right about something.
I like important stuff just as much as the next guy, but please, for a little while, deliver us from meaning, baseball. That's your greatest glory, and we thank you for it very, very much. -- Craig Calcaterra
Lee Todd....this job is more than coaching and recruiting
philosophical differences
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
AppA
Sorry for the title but its slow right now……apparently when he said “not in my job descrpition” that was the straw
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Not one specific example mentioned thus far.
Job requires more than “coaching and recruiting”
If Billy had won 30 games this year, they wouldn’t be here.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
I think
that they are being very honest right now
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
Praising coach Brooks showed no lack of patience....
right chemistry right fit
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Mitch and then Todd
MB mentions relevance of comments about “things not in his job description,”
thoughts about winning and losing not in line with the bigger vision of the program.
Again goes back to the student athlete experience.
Question about about philo differences:
Pres Todd answers : Says this job is a complete job, requires more than just coaching and recruiting.
We need someone that has the philosophy this is a unique job.
MB: Mentions the outcry during Brooks first 2 years and that the University’s patience there shows we can work with coaches and our track record needs no explanations.
It is just me or Todd and Barnhart having a tough time selling this?
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
Not just you. They are coming across as petty, IMHO.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Black eye it is then
Harping on the “philosophical differences” explanation for the firing. I call BS on this BS excuse. The truth is BG didn’t kiss enough ass to the boosters, fans, MB or LT. Waiting for the other shoe to drop.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
Sure sounds like it.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
no new coach has been announced. Apparently they are still searching. This could be disasterous.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
I think it would look bad if they announced a new coach today
I expect a new coach early/middle next week.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
COULD be
that is if they cannot find anyone (of quality) who wants to take the job
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
Todd's body language is bad.
Why does he keep on looking down and fiddlin’ with that pen?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Pres Todd says
Says it is pretty clear that there are a lot of expectations for the Ky coach.
Says there were no specific incidences, that this is a broader thing.
MB says: It just wasn’t where we wanted it to be. When you can’t have any movement over a 2 year time on a contract that is part of fitting in. Every other coach -15 others— have signed similar.
My reaction is still wait and see on the good call bad call
I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!
No successor in place....process is just starting.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
One cogent reasoning for this firing, please?
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
Win perctenage of less than 60% &
less than 20% vs. ranked opponets.
by wldcatsfreak on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on...
I didn’t want him fired either… but surely you know why this is happening? There are plenty of “cogent reasons” to end this relationship.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Not that Todd and Barnhart are elucidating. No.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Referenced sticking with Brooks
as an example of how UK doesn’t run coaches off. Bad, because both failed to distinguish Brooks from Gillispie.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
good point.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
well donovan is obviously NOT backstage
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Unless he comes out, Wrestlemania-style
And breaks a chair over someone’s noggin.
The King is dead! Long live the King!
Now THAT would be legendary
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Heh. You mean he's not just going to burst though the curtain waving jazz hands?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
It sounds like they haven't even begun the coaching search
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
MB kind of looks like George W. Bush in the face.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
Says no conversations with parents
about anything going on.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
He is suggesting that the players did not have a 'positive experience' under Billy.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Gillispie was "disapointed and a little upset, I'm sure."
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
I bet Gillispie gave them absolute HELL this afternoon
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
His press conference tomorrow could be interesting
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
i'm almost as nervous/excited
for that one as i was for this one…..i have absolutely NO clue what billy g will say.
Todd again: A year to year contract.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Matt Jones: Where does it say it was a one year contract?
Todd: “Well that’s an interpretation.”
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Questions about parents
MB says parents clearly want good experience for children but did not have conversations w/ parents that influenced decision.
Says other pieces to the experience besides winning.
Says Billy is disappointed and a little upset. (re: the meeting)
President Todd says the Memo of Understanding is year to year. A one year contract.
Oh boy.,....will this ever get U G L Y
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
DAMN - my feed fied.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
died
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
MB says willing to do a fair settlement.
He visited with players for 15 minutes. He says they are tired from the season. And he did not look for feedback from them.
yes, gross
but he is happy mitch never got a signed contract…..
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. The commerical I have to watch before the video feed starts talks about Gillispie. Ackward.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Todd just gave Barnhart HUGE verbal support.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Todd is taking a...
firm stand for Mitch Barnhart keeping his job. He’s not going anywhere
Respect...integrity...in very good hands
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
sounds like they HAVE had negotiations
but that the “high profile coaches” that “obviously don’t want you to talk about” the fact that they’ve had discussions…
that means they’ve been talking to other coaches for a WHILE…
I thought Lee Todd
said they had been talking to people for a “couple” of years. Was I just hearing things?
by Pygmy Sasquatch on Mar 27, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Donovan Statement: Committed to UF will not look at any other jobs.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
And that's all folks....
no new coach as yet….not the right fit and chemistry
the job is more than wins and losses
the philosophical bridge could not be repaired
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Wow.
Well, pretty much what I expected, overall. They just painted a broad, general picture.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
ESPN NEWS reports
Billy D “debunks” taking Kentucky job
which...
is totally different than saying he’s NOT taking the job.
said he would not be a candidate for any job avaliability
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
remember......other coaches have said similar things in the past
thad matta going from xu to ohio state
me too....
guess i wanted to believe it too bad – not necessarily that billy d is not coming, but that they do not have someone in the wings
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
okay, that's my best effort
at playing court reporter. But I know how it feels to not be able to get the news on UK
I think it has to be Ford at this point. I'll be the first to write it.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Which is terrible.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
i concur...
think it’d be a lateral move, at best, except for the KY connection. He’s unproven and I think it’d be a pretty spineless move to leave your current team after only 1 year.
it wouldn't be spineless to leave after a year for your dream....
BUT, that said, i’m still not sure if ford is the guy, but they could do far worse
I agree it wouldnt be spineless
and i think Ford will be a hell of a coach as he gets more time under his belt. His relative lack of experience is a little worrisome to say the least.
by wldcatsfreak on Mar 27, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That'd be a mistake at this point
But other than Calipari… I don’t know who out there would be a legit candidate.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Not The First
Several others are on record saying that Ford is likely choice.
Dave Baker: Billy Donovan not interested in UK job
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
I'll second that
Calipari would be a GREAT fit for UK…too bad he’s out of the equation-
why do you think he would be a great fit?
i have watched him up close for 8 years here and do not see it, but am open to hearing an opinion from afar
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not sure why some of you don't think
that UK will take a hard look at Grant?? He’s a hell of coach….
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
That's one unproven to another. Same with Ford.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
If we wanted a young, up and coming coach with something to prove...
We’d have kept Gillispie.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Let's hope Todd and Barnhart have someone in mind.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i think...
he sounds like EB Farnum from Deadwood :D
Showed Billy G running away from reporters into his office.
AIG treated with more respsect
This.
Pissed me off to no end.
I have absolutely no respect for the guy at WHAS11 and Alan Cutler now.,
JXClaytor on the 360
by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 27, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Let the circus begin
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Heh.
As sure as sun sets in the evening.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yes -
that is why i really wanted to believe the donovan angle – so we could short circuit the crud.
looks like not…..
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If we don't get Calipari or Donovan... yes, that's exactly what we need to prepare for
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Just looked at Alligator Army
Only one fan post on Donovan to Lex rumors, nothing else. The rest is all football talk. Sheesh. They really don’t care there.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
Its funny how that works....stating the obvious it is a football job 1st, 2nd and 3rd
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
or they are
confident he’s not leaving…
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
and this is why
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Donovan not a candidate at UK
By Kevin Brockway
Sun sports writer
Published: Friday, March 27, 2009 at 4:48 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, March 27, 2009 at 4:48 p.m.
Florida coach Billy Donovan will not be a candidate for the Kentucky job or any jobs that come open.
"In response to the rumors circulating about my interest in other jobs, I wanted to address this as quickly as possible," Donovan said in a statement. “I am committed to the University of Florida and look forward to continuing to build our program here.”
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
well it does not say that BD ruled himself out as a candidate
the headline interprets it that way
But BD said “I am committed to UF” etc.
that’s what they always say.
Not that everything is out
I can confidently affirm that this whole thing has been handled horribly. MB must spend two hours a day under LT’s desk for him to think MB is doing a good job.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
I don't understand had Barnhart can say he doesn't regret hiring Gillispie.
that just makes no sense
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
I fear...
the rivers will run blue. This is going to be ugly. I hoped if they fired him they would at least confirm that he has been eating babies in the craft center. Unfortunately, they pulled the philosophical differences card.
Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi
He turned us down once
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
this is a nightmare.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The way Todd talked...
we got turned down by many more than we even know last time.
I don’t want anyone who turned us down before. Mike Pratt better brush up.
Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi
lol
Kyle Macy, with Kenny Walker as assistant
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
We don't have a "Roy" equivalent
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Digger Phelps is giving UK (Barnhart) the WHAT FOR. Damn.
Of course, I agree WHOLE-heartedly with him.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
I'll go ahead and write it.
The biggest issue for ciriticism at this point is Todd’s firm opinion (noticed he took the lead here and not Barnhart) and position that the MOU is a year-to-year agreement. I am no lawyer, but this is simply unfair and they will look bad taking this position. Arguments will get down in the dirt and it won’t be pretty. They are basically telling Billy to leave and shove it. Bad.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Grow up, boy. Do you see anything good out of this?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
They're taking that position because I bet the settlement will be lower than $6 Million
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Mar 27, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that. But why come out and state it in public? It wasn't the response to a question.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
It was a response to Matt Jones' question.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Okay, if it was, why the need to answer?
Just defer and say it is being negotiated privately.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
You have not said one thing positive about this whole presser....
you have nitpicked everything from body language to the actual words…..did they do anything right
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Yea. A couple of things:
1. It was necessary and good that both made the presser side by side.
2. It was good that Todd verbally and strongly supported Barnhart
3. They made it clear where the coaching recruiting stood.
4. I liked their position of considering the students first and foremost.
…to name more than a couple. Feel better now?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
...I still say Todd's body language sucked.
I thought Barnhart looked much stronger (after he got done reading the formal letter) and better than Todd.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
...and they kept on saying it and saying it.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Well,
I am a lawyer, and he really has no choice BUT to take that position right now. Saying otherwise would be an admission that it IS binding, and would kill their chances to fight it later if it comes to that. He had to say what he said, and I’m SURE UK’s lawyers told him to say exactly that.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
They made the STATMENT. It wasn't a response to a question.
I don’t see any value of making this public. You can take that position in private.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
It was in response to a question. The question was asked twice.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
agree
as i was posting at the same time – bcg must have really pissed off the boosters for the school to not pay and move on…….
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
To me the MOU is the least of my concern....I am more concerned with the coaching search
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Agreed
Its like my divorce. It wasn’t my choice of how my marriage would go… but once it was over, its time to look forward.
I need to look forward right now and I’m praying that they don’t mess this coaching search up too terribly.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Guarantee they have already spoken with counsel
I can tell you that the law is not as clear-cut as you think on this issue. Anyway, UK has a lot more money that BG. Makes a big difference when contemplating litigation. Even Todd’s position is ultimately undefendable, they could still fight it out for years in court. Especially in KY. Gillispie’s lawyer will likely tell him to make a deal for quite a bit less than 6m IMO.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
Hoze King
You must be a psychic. MB did reference a wedding in his presser :) Billy G must be the drunk neighbor
with his hair on fire.
This situation blows but
don’t get cranky now.
HAHA. I Just checked the "Is Gillispie's departure a good thing for UK?" poll at ESPN.com.
After voting, you can click to view a map from where people voted (I assume by IP addesses).
8 people from Alaska and 9 from Hawaii weighed in.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
busch league
going out of way to say he was not fired last night and then not paying buyout.
man, bcg must have really pissed off some booster….
by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Not the boosters
Sounds more like he pissed off Mitch and Dr. Todd so much that they’re willing to fight for it.
And Mitch did say that a settlement will be given.
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Mar 27, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but does anyone know why?
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They all but came out and said it today
- treatment of players
- treatment of media
- treatment of UKAA staff
The biggest thing IMO is definitely the “ambassador of the university” quip Billy made.
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Mar 27, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Barthart/Todd didn't say any of those reasons you post.
There was no mention of mistreatment at all.
"Yeah, the guy wearing the $4,000 suit is holding the elevator for the guy who doesn't make that in four months. COME ON! "--GOB
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Mar 27, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
ESPN and ESPN 2 have nothing. I so wish I had ESPN NEWS. UGGHHHH>….
"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."
That's not true...
… here’s the statement:
“In response to the rumors circulating about my interest in other jobs, I wanted to address this as quickly as possible,” he said in a statement. “I am committed to the University of Florida and look forward to continuing to build our program here.”
He’s committed. So was Nick Saban.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
stop reaching....
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
That's a joke son, a flag-waver!
You’re built too low. The fast ones go over your head. Ya got a hole in your glove. I keep pitchin’ ‘em and you keep missin’ ’em! Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball! Eye. Ball. Eyeball! I almost had a gag, son—a joke, that is!"
</foghornleghorn’d>
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Mar 27, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
oooo
kkkkkkk
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
I don't think it's a reach.
I’ve yet to see that BD said anything other than what’s in quotes right there. And that is not as strong as it easily could be.
Players
Anyone heard anything on the players response?
"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."
I just hope they
are ok. I have a feeling that they are relieved but it is the Student Athletes that I’m worried about.
"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."
I just caught
the last 1 minute on the live feed via internet. Just in time to hear Todd butter up MB
"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."
Gee, its nice to have a web site today that runs
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Mar 27, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
Yep but I wish they would start a new thread....once they get over 300 posts is lags
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I don't think the site is lagging
just your old broken a&% computer
j/k ;)
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
Yeah me either
Quit being cheap and using NetZero as your ISP!
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Haha....no my puter is very fast and even Tru says it lags over 300 posts
evidently not for everyone
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I have heard that too....I tried Firefox a few years ago and preferred IE
but I didn’t use it on ASOB as far as I know….but thanks for the tip
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it is way better...
been using it for 3 years and will never go back….
‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban
My Two Cents Worth
I am much saddened by the events as they transpired this year with the culmination today. I didn’t always agree with Gillispie’s coaching or his stubborness bordering on arrogance but I was still sad and worried about the direction of our program under his guidance.
Donovan is out. That is official from WKYT. I would like to throw a name out there that not many people are talking about and that is Sean Miller of Xavier. Look what he’s done with that program. He was a point guard at Pitt, a major basketball school. He’s young and energetic and the UK job would definitely be a step up for him. What do the rest of you think?
UK could do worse....
I like Miller but he wouldn’t be one of my first choices. However if they are unable to land those mentioned many times before Miller isn’t a bad choice.
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That's a name I think should be included in the discussion.
I like the way his teams play. I just wonder if he is ready to handle the pressure cooker that is UK basketball.
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Agreed
But if we wanted a young, up and coming coach… we could have just kept Gillispie.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Agreed as well.
I’m afraid it may take years for our program to recover from this one.
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can't do another young coach, dude...
this cauldron is simply not for the inexperienced, nor the faint of heart…there are less than 5 coaches in America that can handle this place…sad, but true…IMO, it’s Barnes, other than him, an NBA coach can handle it….can’t believe the Administration handled it this poorly…cost me a lunch…
Wilbon
Just said we were arrogant and he likes to see us squirm a little bit. What a jerk!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Calipari
When asked about Kentucky: “I want to be [at Memphis], this is where I want to coach.”
http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/sports/032709_Coach_Cal_Im_Not_Going_to_Kentucky
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Mar 27, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
Well it looks like most everyone's first 2 choices are not interested....
I certainly hope he is considered and will listen
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Just because..
someone is saying their not interested doesn’t mean their not…
Says every date rapist known to man
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
ESPN
is scrolling the fact that Billy D said no. What the hell are we doing? How do you fire a coach after 2 years and not have somone locked up? This is making me sick. I am so tired of dealing with this crap. Billy D said no, Cal said no, who’s next?? If we hire Horn or Ford I am done. I will not put up with this anymore. I was at the Notre Dame game and those kids played their butts off. They deserve better than this.
Just look at a possibility of what could happen…
PPat gone
Meeks gone
Pilgrim gone
Liggins gone
Orton gone
GJ gone
Ferguson from LN is a stud I have seen that team play and they would give UK a run for it
Thats SEVEN…how long would we set back this program if this happens?
Sadly we are the laughing stock of the country today.
Overreacting ...
… based on Meeks’s father’s comments, I would argue the opposite is true. I think Meeks was more likely to turn pro WITH Gillispie back.
Pilgrim ain’t going anywhere. Dude sat out a year from HAMPTON to come to UK. He’s staying. Liggins hated coach Gillispie.
Orton is a big one, and whomever the coach is will need to try and save that one. GJ could follow Gillispie, but he’s hardly a 5-star can’t miss, even if underrated.
Ferguson is a tougher call. We gotta keep him away from his buddies at Louisville. The assistants leaving could be troublesome there.
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GJ's father was quoted (by audio)....
that he has been a Wildcat at heart for the last 2 years and it would be hard to imagine him going anywhere else.
So I think he probably honors his commitment….of course the new coach could always change that expectation.
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He posts over at TBK and expressed the same thing yesterday.
Said GJ loves Kentucky.
by BBallSophist on Mar 27, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My source says
UK and Donovan are in negotiations right now and he will let me know what happens. Remeber I do not care if you believe me. Feel lucky I have some access to the to what is going on with BD. I do have UF access but I don’t have UK access though.
So your info is coming from a source from the Florida side of things?
‘Cause if that’s true, it certainly holds more weight.
by BBallSophist on Mar 27, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude.
This is the job for the MSM. Please, no more rumors. I don’t care if your source is Donovan himself.
I hope you understand. I’m not mad at you, I totally respect that you have a great source. But I have a policy here and rumormongering runs contrary to it. I can’t confirm what you are saying. If you are a member of the media, just email me and we can negotiate, but I really do not like rumors.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
And what did your "source" have to say about the public statement from Donovan that he's not leaving
I have to believe that if negotiations were going on, Donovan would have the intelligence not to put a quote out there that will be thrown in his face like a Saban or a Petrino.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
If you are having an affair..
when first confronted you are going to say your not…
Trust me on this,
I respect this site and plan on staying on this site. I would not blow smoke up peoples butt on this.
His comments ...
… I am committed. That is not “I am staying.”
You can be committed and change your mind, or de-commit.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
commitment
They better be sure and give the next one time to adjust and get his players in whoever it is
by briangwildcatfan on Mar 27, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
What transpired with
me since last night. I will not spread rumors. Last night I was out at a function with let us say a very well connected person with the college sports programs in the state of Florida. I told him this, in my opinion it makes perfect since for Billy Donovan to go to UK and I believe he is going. We sat and watched the NCAA games and the conversation covered my thoughts. Let me explain something about Florida basketball, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP DOWN HERE. Billy Donovan can win five National Championships and they still won’t care and the person I was talking to knows it, I know it, millions of Gator fans know it and Billy Donovan knows it. The Gators don’t want to admit it though. That’s why it was always hard to build basketball programs down here. The support is all football. I know tons of Gator fans but the only one I saw at the SEC Championship Tournament was the one I invited. I had never been to a SEC Tournament and was amazed at how important it was for UK to be successful for the tournament to be successful. Thursday at the tournament it was a Sea Of Blue. I was so happy to be around all of these UK fans. I stayed on a boat that was docked dead center behind the Marriot, which for anybody knows that was there it was the center activity. I am a people person and talked to many fans. All disappointed fans and fans that seemed on edge. (I stopped writing this at this point because I decided to contact a direct source and he just called me back and this is when I made my first post today. Now it is 6:00.)
At this point .. .
… I am so bewildered, I am ready to believe anything, especially good things. I refuse to spend the weekend in a depression.
The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...
I'm sure comments by Meeks dad and the ones about Jasper still
rehabing his knee are typical and other payers will have similar stories…then piss off some boosters and tell your boss what your job is and that he can shove it … yeah he’s hardcore alright … whereever he winds up at they’ll probably win the NC with him.
Don’t want to see Travis yet – I think he needs more seasoning – didnt expect BD to come, I like Calipari – hope he doesn’t turn us down
Rece Davis
Supporting us – (paraphrasing here): “Kentucky deserves to have unrealistic expectations, no one has won more than them.” You go, Rece!
And Dick Vitale looks like hell. . .
The King is dead! Long live the King!
Dick Vitale was pretty fair with UK on Sportscenter....
basically saying BCG may not have been a good fit and hurt himself by not embracing the entire job beyond coaching. He also said the the AD or search committee should be held accountable for the hiring. He mentioned that outside of Pitino the only coaches he feels can handle the enormity of the job are Calipiari and Barnes. Just to summarize. Digger pretty much talked winning and losing only….figures.
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Vitale...
also said Knight, with Travis Ford as an assistant who would be groomed as successor in 4 to 5 years (Sportscenter).
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Digger was pretty hard on the AD and search committee...
for not doing their job two years ago. They should have known what they wanted versus what they were getting basically.
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So this man
told me he would make a call to somebody that talks to Billy everyday in the morning and let me know if he new anything. I know the man he said. At 9:30 I had not heard anything so I called the guy he mentioned to me. I know the guy well because I support his causes. He opened up totally about everything on BD not taking the UK job before and what happened in Orlando with the Magic. And he told me what I revealed earlier today.
no way.....mainly because of his age
he would not be a long term solution and has been largely irrelevant as a coach for years. Silly to think he would even be considered.
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Dick Vitale knows
everything I am saying. He loves BD and the tune towards UK will shift immediately if BD takes job. I don’t care what has been denied by anybody. I
If somebody was real good they could see my profile
and figure out or get a short list on who in our town would know BD this well.
Maybe
we can get Rich Brooks to do both lol
by briangwildcatfan on Mar 27, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder
how heated the conversation was in the meeting.
by briangwildcatfan on Mar 27, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
I openingly told
my Gator freinds today what I know. I told them my source and they were shocked that I knew this guy that well. They didn’t say much. We came in from the golf course to collect my money and I got the voicemail from my source that at 5:03 PM today that there were negotiations going on between UK and BD. I played the voicemail and there hearts dropped. But here is the deal, most of these Gator fans don’t care. Some said, so what. Others asked why.
With what I do know,
I don’t believe BD would even negotiate with UK or vice versus if Mrs. Donovan had not signed off on this.
I might be smoking
but I am not pulling chains here. There is no other place for BD in college basketball other than UK and he is way above Florida basketball. He cannot go to the NBA because of the release with the Magic. That was for 5 years and Dick Gabriel might be wrong about having the notion that Billy wanted the LEAGUE.
BD to my knowledge
has not turned down the job. As of 5:00 they were in negotiations. I would trust my guy way before I trust what ESPN reports.
He might stay at UF,
but I doubt it. UK is the only job I know that BD would go too. I have not heard officially that he has turned UK down. This was never a win or X & O’s issue with BG by the way.
just an idea… what about mike anderson from mizzou? and although it probably would never happen and i dont know if it would work…Pat Riley? haha thats a little funny but hey hes pat riley
If we get into 3rd tier coaches in our search...
I agree that Anderson would be an interesting hire. He plays a style of basketball that the fans would embrace.
I do not know how he would handle the pressure cooker. He did come from Arkansas, but seeing it as an assistant to a virtual legend and actually experiencing it are two totally different things.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
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