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Open Thread Continuation: Coach Watch

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Wow, what a crazy day.  Is Gillispie in, or is he out?  I'm getting dizzy just trying to keep up with all the drama.

I'm sure that Tru or Ken will post some real news as soon as they have it. 

In the meantime, use this thread to discuss our current Coach-watch.

[UPDATE 7:52AM by Truzenzuzex]  There is nothing new to report.  WHAS is standing by their report that Gillispie is gone, but the UK SID is saying that he has not been fired and no meetings have happened.

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I don't even know why I'm going to work tomorrow...

And you know that TCP and ASOB are the only fan sites that are going to be running properly tomorrow. I really hope there is some sort of closure before the weekend.

by scfcats on Mar 27, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can see a lot of people not doing work

I believe that http://www.kentuckyink.com/ will be working just fine also.

http://kentuckyink.com

by cobbycobb on Mar 27, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

11:30 P.M. PST ESPN NEWS REPORTS

Andy Katz is now confirming what the UK athletic department reported. Billy G not fired
No meeting currently scheduled for Friday.

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 2:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On ESPN ticker...

Andy Katz’ sources say Gillispie’s future to be decided Friday.

Maybe they’ll just release a statement.

by the spork on Mar 27, 2009 2:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LHL Article Thursday 11:48 P.M. EST

Interesting LHL Tipton article. Covers Billy G’s talk show. Billy claims he has not heard
from Todd or Barnhart. Billy will keep “working” until he has been told different. Article does indicate that UK will make an announcement on Friday about the Men’s Basketball Coach position.

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 2:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would he stay?

It’s been said a few times in many of the posts that I’ve read over the past week but- Even if offered the position I’m confused as to why he would stay. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a HUGE mistake for UK to get rid of him. No man should get fired (or whatever they’re going to call it) after two years, he needs next year to prove himself. I’m just not sure with all of the speculation that’s going on, not only in the Commonwealth, but nationally also, what kind of situation he would be getting himself into if he stayed. He certainly doesn’t seem to be the kind of man to grovel and apologize to the BBN for the past year and explain himself- though I feel this is exactly what the BBN wants and some may even need of him to accept him. And with all the national media (espn, and yahoo to name two) saying that he’s most likely gone (columns I know, but nonetheless…) I just don’t understand now how the University and Coach could turn around and send out a big “F you” to everyone by keeping him, which is what it would seem it would be right now. This has been one giant administrative fustercluck if I’ve ever seen one, and I’m normally the one infuriated by the coaches who inevitably say “i’m staying, I’m not leaving” and then haul a** out the door the next day. I think this is the exact opposite of that. I’m just not sure I can see BCG staying around regardless whether or not the University actually terminated the contract… And as everyone else has been saying- they better have a HUGE, I’m talking ASTRONOMICAL name (like a certain neighbour down I-64 for example…) locked down, otherwise this is just going to get ugly- not to say it isn’t already. It’s already been hard enough for me to wear all my blue down here in Miami. I’m afraid it’s only going to get harder…

Here’s to a Final Four run in 2010 (downs some 7 year Beam- don’t forget the bottles currently say that the seven years represent each of UKs national titles. I’d sure like for them to have to adjust their aging times…)

Give me a tin roof, front porch and a gravel road. Go Cats and Go 'Canes!

by Kentucky 'Cane on Mar 27, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree, fustercluck, agree again why stay?

Would also like to have seen an additional year for Billy … but after all of this media circus – there’s no trust between the two sides. LHL reporting assistant coach cleaning out his office at the Craft Center, WHAS says Billy OUT then says no news conference … come on this is just media SPIN – we know he’s gone. It’s sad for UK bball … but “this too shall pass” … I’ll always be a fan, even if they get the Pope to coach the team – seems like a lot of folks could use some religion today…

by ukcris on Mar 27, 2009 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat Forde from ESPN wrote an article about the situation and I think....

… he brought up a good point. It has now gotten to the point where even if he isn’t fired at the end of this year, things might have already reached the point of no return. I can’t believe how badly Barnhart dropped the ball on this one.

by Clay Mason on Mar 27, 2009 5:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

it feels very awkward right now. If he isn’t fired it will be extremely awkward, with an entire off season to have to answer questions about it. If you ask me its time for Barnhart to be on the hot seat. The last coaching search wasn’t handled well and this situation has been a nightmare. Whether you are a BG fan or not, Barnhart screwed up either by hiring or by firing, assuming thats what will happen today. He needs to make one hell of a hire for me to continue to support him as our AD.

by the spork on Mar 27, 2009 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll Say it Again

If Gillispie is out, after this bumbling, Barnhart and Todd should follow him. Please, if I wanted staged drama, I’d watch Survivor.

What is this program called? Who wants to be an Unemployed Millionaire? Coach Swap? It’s embarrasing.

If it is a mistake, then some WHAS reporter should be required to interview BCG every halftime for the whole of next year and start the interview with “Coach, you are not fired like I reported you were last March but what do you have to do to get going in the second half?” To which coach could reply “That question is even worse than your journalism skills.”

by LyricSmith on Mar 27, 2009 5:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Mitch should follow him..

but I’m not so sure about arguing to fire the university president because of basketball matters. Now, if Lee Todd drops the ball on the top 20 initiative, he’s as good as gone. No matter how much the state govt cuts UK’s funding.

by ben-p on Mar 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You Are Most Likely Right

Still, I feel this ordeal extends beyond athletics and reflects on the whole university. And Mr Todd has been there the whole time.

However, I realize that basketball is not the complete university. And, there is of course the possibility that Barnhart and Todd know something significant that I do not . Forgive my rantings but wow! Tthe handling of this crisis had been bad by any standard.

by LyricSmith on Mar 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize this is the big story, but did anyone notice that

Villanova spanky spankied Duke last night. Like, embarrassed them?

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing right?

Now hopefully Gonzaga can pull one out tonight and we won’t have to worry about UNC getting any closer in wins this year.

by ben-p on Mar 27, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow - Even Dicky V. is riding Duke on Sportscenter

Duke shot like 29% on the night (worst in NCAA history) and 5/29 for threes, or something like that. Just terrible.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Need more rumors!!!

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The only thing

i want to hear is after “SAID” meeting both sides have agreed to let BCG stick around and have a crack at next years team.If everyone stays and the recruits come in,they could be phenomenal…Hopefully Stevenson and Porter come off the bench.

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Slight Modification

Hopefully Stevenson and Porter STAY on the bench.

by tooblue on Mar 27, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOU

are correct with your slight modification,that would be good

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what if...

this whole thing is really up in the air due to the fans and the media?! The Administration has been consistent that they will sit down after the season and discuss the program, BCG has stated he doesn’t know anything and wants to be here next year. Aren’t both on the same page?! Do adjustments need to be made? Absolutely, but does anyone believe that BCG doesn’t realize that and that he won’t make the changes?

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im not sold as Donovan as the right guy

I have followed UK basketball all my life, my dad is from kentucky and is the biggest big blue fan i know. I know you guys feel donovan could bring UK back to the glory days but im not so sure. Don’t get me wrong hes a good coach and he knows the game but are you sure he’s the answer? Sure he won 2 NC’s at UF but he did that with two extremely heavy veteran teams and what has he done since?? Its easy to win when you have amazing talent….im not saying he isnt the answer but i have my questions….

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 27, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also took another team to the finals

just sayin’. . .

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be cautious

Of Billy D..Good coach,good recruiter,but i would love to have a coach that wants to be a UK for many,many years,and for one reason or another i think (just my opinion) is that Billy D would always have one eye one the NBA>

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure that he does

He dabbled his toes in the NBA waters and got out quick in Orlando. I don’t think he’s looking to the NBA anymore.

I don’t know that Donovan is what I want, but if we bungle this deal with Gillispie as bad as it appears we’re going to… we need a media darling like Donovan. If we don’t have someone bulletproof like him, the media will crucify us in the coming years.

I also don’t know that I want someone here for “many, many years” as you say. I think ten years is about as long as a coach should stay.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends

I agree we need a media darling if BCG is gone(hope he is not) Billy d is still young and just seems like the type that would hang a banner in Rupp and seek a different challenge.be that in the NBA or elsewhere.

If you get the right coach and they are on top of college BBall(like UK should be) and after ten years they are not old and washed up why not have a career coach?

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he hangs a banner

He could move on with my thanks and best wishes.

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

They would be fantastic,but then what? just my opinion but i would not like to change coaches every 10 years if said coach is still successful.

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Donovan still has 3 years before he could coach in the NBA (reportedly). The reported terms of Orlando letting him out of his K there were that he not coach in the NBA for 5 years – it’s been 2 now.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heavy veteran teams?????

The first championship featured four sophomores as the focus…

Although I do agree with your overall premise, I couldn’t let that pass without comment.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thought it would obvious but it shows

i know more about the culture of UK basketball then most outsiders…

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 27, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I got it.

No one on ASoB is an “outsider”…we’re all rabid, knowledgeable (sane) UK fans.

by mrmondaynite on Mar 27, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

couldn't agree more...

before his NC runs with 2 magical teams…Billy D was on the way out at Florida…he has consistently underachieved at UF and simply is not the guy…to go to two NIT’s after winning the title…unacceptable…

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More rumors

Found a fascinating read at another site,and this could posibly happen.More or less, a “mutual separation” has been reached between UK and BG(he was not fired,nor does he resign).This happens today.Anthony Grant will remove his name from the Alabama job.If this happens,Billy Donovan will be named the next UK head coach,Grant will go to UF.One thing that makes this plauisble is that BD and AG have the same agent,Lonnie Cooper.I think this scenario will play out.

by -Zoso- on Mar 27, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Musical chairs..

How about Donovan to UK, Grant to FL and Gillespie to Alabama? Then he’d get at least one shot per year at payback.

by yellowhammer on Mar 27, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Gottfried to VCU?

:-)

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that.

It may be true, but if so it will be an accident. This was not posted from actual knowledge, IMHO, just an extrapolation of known facts and assumptions.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Mar 27, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BCG

is apparently getting alot of support..I hear that UK was flooded with calls and emails and also there is a pic on LHL of a sign that reads “keep Billy G” and that sign was placed outside memorial coliseum.

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They screened the phone calls on his call-in show pretty well last night

Everyone of them supported him.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only

heard one call they showed on my local news and it was an ignorant redneck that told billy it was time for him to go……he sounded like he did not attend middle school for very long..LOL

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not so.

One guy told him that we needed to change coaches. Another guy apparently used foul language, so he never got on the air.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Mar 27, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah. I listened for about 15 minutes and all three were "Keep up the good work" types

So I just assumed the entire show was like that.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same thing

They only played 2 calls on my local news one was in support and the other said something to the effect that it was time for him to move on,the caller was not rude he just sounded very uneducated.

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm, but Florida has had

2 top recruiting classes the past 2 years. Calethes will surely be an AA, and Parsons ain’t too shabby.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

1 second team All American. Don’t spout that stuff off as fact when it isn’t. Could change when AP gives their list.

by Ontherocks on Mar 27, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more important question...

which program has fallen the furthest?! UF is now two years removed from a national championship and still in the NIT…UK is bottomed out after a four year decline and poised for a return next year…I believe UF’s fall is far more inexcusable…

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever Happens

My school has managed to become the true Notre Dame of college basketball.

Dr. Todd isn’t the president of the school for sports so calls for him to step down or be fired are incredibly stupid. Dr. Todd has done a whole lot of good and surprised most with his leadership in many other arenas.

Mitch Barnhardt, on the other hand, has set this up as a debacle. He doesn’t deserve to be dismissed because of it but there is a huge hole to climb out of now.

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Close games count so much at KENTUCKY!

Had we won three more games, that would have made us 25-11 with a quality win against Louisville. I just don’t think the current discussion would be going on.

by Blueobsessed on Mar 27, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

If Bush hand’t pushed Leinert over the goal line, we would have had that win.

Wait…

Wrong school.

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Forty?

Either he is busy or he knows something and does not feel he can post until something breaks publicly…

Forty – are you busy or “busy”?

by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GOOD NEWS

My baby boy is 10 months old today and he is teething,but never cries….trust me i did nothing to deserve an easy to deal with teething baby….LOL

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't friggin work like this!!!

Somebody tell me something. It’s like I’m waiting outside of a hospital room for a doctor to come out and tell me if a close friend will make it through the next 24 hours. TELL ME ALREADY!!!!

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wishing

they would make the gosh darn announcement,hopefully BCG stays!

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm hoping

I wish someone in Lexington would orginize a march outside of Lee Todd’s office. 1000 fans screaming Keep Billy G should do the trick.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we

could get more than that i think……..I really thought before i found this site that a mass majority of the fans were against him,but i feel differently after being on here a couple days.This is a great site,good posts,smart fans to discuss the situation with,just glad to have found a site where is wasn’t “bring us BCG’s head on a platter” got really tired of that crap!

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

It’s why I come here daily. HEre for levelheaded fan conversation. Matt Jones for comedic relief with a splash of occationally the blind squirel finding a nut. And Maggard b/c he seems to know what he’s talking about and he keeps the rif raft out.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but really, its over and we all know it to be true

As dumb and sad as it is, no professional of any occupation would stick around in these circumstances.

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if

they let BCG stay i think he will,he seems like a tough S.O.B with something to prove…….just hope he gets that chance however it is probably a done deal.

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

if he stays through this mess, he will be focused…..

by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I think deep down we all know that this is going to happen. No way he wants to come back in this situation. Just hope it is sooner than later.

by littlekev76 on Mar 27, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I really got the impression during his opening statements at his callin show that he wants to stay.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

simply disagree...

we don’t know anything…the Administration has been consistent…doing what they said they would do…BCG is talking about next year…again…isn’t this all fan and media driven hype? This season sucked, but seriously…3 or 4 games fall the other way and we’re at 25-27 wins…it will take time and I actually think the Administration will not succumb to the pitchforks at the gate.

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to feel that way but lately

I’m having doubt b/c of all the media driven hype. I hope you are right.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree/disagree

agree, no sane person would put up with this
disagree, BCG is the person who might, because he is stubborn and knows he is the man for the job

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I really got the impression in his opening statment during his call in show that he wants to stay.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody

heard when this so called meeting or press conference is taking place? Where’s Forty i bet he’d know>>>LOL

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They keep saying

no offical press conference is scheduled. Who the hell knows at this point.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to say.

They may just think they know.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my guess ...

they know he’s gone, but they don’t know who’s coming in. The rumor mill that wants him gone has already moved on to national speculation on who’s next.

I would bet that they don’t necessarily want to make an expensive move (buyout or litigation over the buyout) without knowing who’s next. Seems like an awful risky move for Mitch/Todd to fire Billy G, get turned downed by a handful of coaches, and end up with a rushed hire. Maybe he’s learned from his mistakes?

if he stays, it’ll be because Billy D, Calipari, Pitino, and Jay Wright said no …

by shavit on Mar 27, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sleep?

How much of it do you all think Barnhardt and Todd got last night? LOL

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

From kentucky.com……………BCG really sums it up with this statement:

But Gillispie also acknowledged his steely side.

“I’m a hard-core guy,” he said. “I’m a very, very honest guy. Sometimes that comes across great. Sometimes it doesn’t.”

by slidemank on Mar 27, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just an opinion ....

But I think the reason for no press conference is that the athelstics dept. is in secret talks with the “home run” coaches and they want to make sure they have one locked up before they fire bg. They want to make sure they get it right so their heads aren’t on the chopping block which explains why bg has no idea what’s going on. Very shady but makes sense to me. I’m at work painting so I have a lot of time to think….too much maybe.

It's outta my head but stuck in my mind, in time I find my spine is crooked in design.

by UrthWyrmJim on Mar 27, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If there is a change to BD

and I hope there isn’t, we’ll know if Kentucky’s prestige is still intact if our announcent is made before Floridas.

by hoboat33 on Mar 27, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What about Gillispies behavior??

I’ve heard all the reasons he should stay or go but no one mentions all the rumors about his behavior off the court. Well on the court too when he was rude to the reporter. But I’ve heard everthing…. to that he is a drunk and has been very lucky to not of gotten another DUI to that he has lots of lady friends. Maybe his character and behavior off the court is why they have to let him go?!!! Maybe they don’t want to put up with his crap anymore!!

by bigbluebigfan on Mar 27, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And I've heard...

that you have two heads and 14 eyes.

That why they are rumors and until you have proof, most people would reserve judgment.

Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi

by hoopchi on Mar 27, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your point?...

Rupp was a racist. Didn’t stop him.

by Fyrebird_86 on Mar 27, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one called him that

Until after he was dead. Come on.

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by Anything but Gatorade on Mar 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im just so tired of this...

…..i heard BCG had 15 dui’s in 10 days…and is blah blah blah trying to date so and so’s niece whom is a direct descendant of Daniel Boone

by teambeam on Mar 27, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reach into your pocket for just a moment there

I’m betting you’ll pull out a cell phone just like the rest of us. That’s right… even in the backwoods of Kentucky, everyone has a cell phone. And I’m also willing to bet that your cell phone has a camera built in like 99% of all phones on the market today.

If Gillispie were pulling half the stunts that rumors like yours would suggest, he’d be all over the internet.

Behold… Larry Eustachy

If Gillispie were out carousing and getting plastered in public, we’d know.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this whole post should be deleted

more RIDICULOUS rumor-mongering

by uk1982 on Mar 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would just make more since to me f that are firing a coach after 2 years even with his losses that there HAS to be stuff going on off the court for them to make such a decision.

by bigbluebigfan on Mar 27, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No problem.

If he has offenses that are considered termination worthy, then he should be gone. Unfortunately, having friends that are ladies does not qualify in my book. I also have heard no official report of DUI.

I just think we need to be careful of rumors and judgments without the facts. I’ve heard a lot but I hope not everything that people hear about me they believe without proof. I think BCG deserves the same treatment.

Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi

by hoopchi on Mar 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree

Its a fact that the man has been surly with the media. Its also a fact that he has blown off commitments with prominent boosters. Its also a fact that he admits to being less than comfortable in his role as an ambassador for the school.

Its also a fact that he has had two sub-par years by Kentucky standards.

If he were winning… we’d ignore all the problems in the first paragraph. If he were everything we wanted in a coach and only having mediocre success… we’d ignore the second point. His problem is that the two are dove-tailing into a perfect storm of sorts.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like today is going to be another crazy day

I’m at work, but I’m glued to the computer….

GBB!!!

by OGETARTS on Mar 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes - i have no time for this

busiest i have been in sometime – barnhard and lee need to check my schedule next time before starting this process……. :)

by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Process

We don’t need no stinkin process

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7:15 a.m. PST ESPN Ticker

writes that Billy G is not fired. but now…NO NEWS CONFERENCE IS SCHEDULED.

Yesterday, it was a scheduled meeting between UK administration and BCG, WHAS report that Billy is out (which I understand is still up), then it was changed to UK will make an announcement today and now…..

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

media hype...

until there is official word, I’m taking BCG at his word…he says he is brutally honest and I believe him…IMO, I simply don’t believe he will be fired…he may not want to be here, that is a different story all together.

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the Orlando Sentinel

College basketball: Donovan/Kentucky rumors continue as Gillispie expected to be fired
posted by Jeremy Fowler on Mar 27, 2009 8:55:05 AM

Click Here

GBB!!!

by OGETARTS on Mar 27, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tipton on ESPN right now

Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi

by hoopchi on Mar 27, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tipton is an idiot

Are they really talking or thinking about firing BCG because of the Rotary club or the “Brush up” with Edwards….i think not,but in his defense the first brush up was a really bad question,he could have handled it differently,but,he was correct.IMO the second brush up was BG’s attempt at a joke,all he said the 2nd time was that edwards knew more about it than he did…Maybe G just doesn’t have a very good sense of humor.It that a fireable offense?

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tipton on ESPN

Gave examples of “dust ups” Edwards, Rotary Club…blah,blah,blah… backing off 100%
firing. Billy D as “popular” choice for fans.

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny...

he attributed backing off from BCG getting fired 100% due to “internet chatter.”

Xbox Live Gamertag: hoopchi

by hoopchi on Mar 27, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree that Billy D is the popular choice

If the fan base is divided on if Billy G should be fired or stay that means a full half of th fan base want Billy G (me included). I doubt such an agreement with the other half on who they prefer. So it seems to me the popular choice is Billy G.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true or false

 
I have a little UK basketball news that you can share with any of your UK buddies at work… Billy Gillispie has been fired. He and the other assistant coaches told the team goodbye in the locker room after the game. The players were then told by Mitch Barnhart and Lee Todd (the athletics director and president of the university) how to answer reporters after the game. (Denying any knowledge of the firing, etc) A formal press conference will be scheduled for Friday to make the official announcement to the public. Gillispie left the game last night on a flight and the team traveled back to Lexington on a bus.
 
As of last night, the only names being mentioned for the replacement are Billy Donovan and Travis Ford. Lee Todd says he will not hire John Calapari under any circumstances. It seems as if President Todd has a little more say than Mitch Barnhart as far as the hiring this time. If I hear anything else, I’ll let you know.
 

by phatcat74 on Mar 27, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that exactly what the other guy's daughter reported yesterday?

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

False

esp. the part about being telling the team goodbye. That was refuted on amnews.com

JXClaytor on the 360

by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 27, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is the same "rumor"

We saw yesterday on this site. No basis at all.

by kykat51 on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Press conference

Where is the announcement about the press conference that WHAS and all the blogs are talking about?

by teech62 on Mar 27, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there hasn't bee one

however, a contact that works inside the craft center told me last night that they are set up for one. they had no knowledge of the time or any decisions, just that they had set up for a presser

by ukcat2169 on Mar 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BCG

must be thumbing his nose at Mitch by now. As he was quoted yesterday…I am very, very honest.

BCG looks like a genius for never signing contract but making sure he has a 6 million
dollar buyout.

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From Florida

This is not rumor. I will be giving you detailed information on what is happening down here soon. My source will be revealed by Monday evening. We are all going to be happy as HELL, the SEC will be happy, the NCAA will be happy and the Universiy of Florida will be happy. There is just one okay to go.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wanna hear this rumor. That’s a lot of happy!

JXClaytor on the 360

by JoshuaClaytor on Mar 27, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monday evening

It damn well better be over well before monday evening.

by hoboat33 on Mar 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

another what if...

how would BBN react if the press conference is, “BCG is our coach, changes need to be made to get us back to where UK Basketball needs to be, but he has our full support and we believe that he is the guy to get us there…”

how would that go over?!

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

brady

just fine after the SEC tournament. Letting your coach publicly twist on both the national & local levels
is bad business.

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't that be the preverbial vote of confidence?!

my only caveat on that is does BCG really want to be here? My thought is the Administration does not want to fire him, but without him signing the contract and they challenges they see him having in the job, he may simply be looking for a parting of ways…it hasn’t been handled well, but if they came out and said that then after the season BCG says this simply isn’t for him…how foolish would they look…

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha.

good point…my brother is in Aloha…you have a little Blue company out there!

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably not too well

but I think it would depend a lot on how they explained it and what coach, players, and journalists said about it.

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tru, I will give you

my source if you need it. But you have to put it in writing that you WILL NOT reveal it.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Post it already

We promise that none of us on here will reveal your source.

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOd man..

you don’;t have to reveal your source….if your information seems on point….no one will care….

‘When you build a house and you make it hurricane-proof by putting certain kinds of windows in it, and use cement instead of stick construction and all that kind of stuff, you’re getting prepared for what? A hurricane that may or may never every come." ’We’re going to have 12 hurricanes next year, we know they’re coming.’
- Coach Nick Saban

by bammer on Mar 27, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It Time to "Grow-Up"

To tell the truth, I feel sorry for Coach G and the players. It’s always been said that not only does the tradition of Kentucky basketball make UK a great school to coach and play at, but “the rabid fans” are the “greatest”. That is until you have a bad season and the “fans” stab you and your team in the back and start booing you on their OWN home court! Yeah, “greatest”, whatever. I’m a lifelong resident of Kentucky (38 years), and quite frankly sometimes it makes me ashamed to be associated with what has become associated with UK basketball fandom. Think about how hard all of this must be on the players. They’re just kids. If many of them come away from this debacle thinking Kentucky Basketball “stinks”, can you really blame them? I think it’s time for much of the UK fan base to “grow-up” and have a little more patients in the program.

by Blueboy on Mar 27, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard a comment from Meeks after the Creighton game that they won to "show the fans"

I got the impression he was less than thrilled with us.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is Not the End, the Cycle will Continue.

Don’t get me wrong, I want to win Bball games as much as the next guy, but at what cost? Do we just throw away coaches and players without any regard for the human being? Do we just step on them and move on to the next set of UK Fan victims? We may “love” new Coach So-and-So if Coach G is replaced, but next year (and the year after that) UK fans will hate his guts if he’s not able to work miracles and wave a magic wand and turn the UK Basketball program around in the amount of time THE FANS want it to be.

by Blueboy on Mar 27, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget

According to Office Space, it’s always better to fire someone on a Friday. . .

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Billy G

3 comments to make……
1st to everyone who wants to fire Mitch Barnhardt: Didn’t you cry for his dismissal when the football program was down? How has his choice of coach turned out for that program?

2nd….If Billy G is let go it will be another 2-3 years of building before we see direct results from this new coach

3rd….When Billy said he only had 1 person that would judge him and all assumed he was talking about Mitch B, guess again. The only person to judge someone is the Lord above. That is who Billy G was talking about

by JeffKYwildcatfan on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

#3

Uh. . .yeah. We all knew who he was talking about. I believe that was pretty obvious. . .

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 person to judge

I think everyone understood Billy G’s reference…but “The Lord Above”… now is the time he picks to be a religious man?
seems that he’s just trying to get some of the bible belters on his side

Billy G is a flawed man and that’s fine – we are ALL gossips or else we wouldn’t be here…but his pride and arrogance have possibly cost him his Golden Ticket

The antics he has been accused of should land him in the bush leagues
but… I don’t buy the Billy G is able to handle this. Joe Crawford said everyday that BCG would say “I hate you”… that kind of talk has no business at UK…

UK should have a teflon coach….one above reproach and respected universally. No one will call for Coach K’s resignation after his past few “sub par” years… No one called for Roy William’s ousting when we were all shouting “Rock Choke Jayhawk”

by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not crying to fire Mitch

But if UK goes on to fire a coach after only 2 years, then a serious evaluation is in order for whoever hired said coach. If he’s not the coach for UK now (in their opinion), then he wasn’t 2 years ago either.

by ben-p on Mar 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

evaluating mitch

I’m sure he has evaluated this to death
basically people know that Billy D was waffling, Wright, Few and Barnes said no… didn’t hear about Izzo…but they ran to someone who wouldn’t embarass them again – someone who would have been stupid to say NO
they got “their main” the “yes man” who isn’t a good fit

I believe all those people that say there is INTERNAL turmoil and Dr T and MB are not going to air the dirty laundry of the Athletic Department… UK shouldn’t have to – although MB should at least admit that there were some internal problems concerning underage coeds, a return of Eddie Sutton’s driving habits, or something of the likes…. SOMETHING near insubordination took place – maybe the signing of some players that would not have fit MB’s mold??? KT? KG? DL?

by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NYC

Must be late Friday afternoons

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trust me when I

say my source is very connected down here to UF and Donovan. He has confirmed to me that what Dick Gabriel said about Donovan coming to UK two years ago was correct but was shot down by his wife. Donovan had even told my source he was going to UK. Remember Donovan had just won TWO Championships in a row and his wife figured he should stay in Florida because she wasn’t going to move from Florida. Thus the Magic job. Donovan loves the college game though and went back to UF before it was to late. I am not a fast typer so bare with me. By the way I don’t give a crap who believes this. It is what I am being told right now. Right now at this time the job has been offered to Billy Donovan.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious!!!

This is breaking news!!! No one has posted anything like this anywhere yet.

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy??

And D being offered the job is supposed to make me happy?? try again.

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Mar 27, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't matter...

People will question his source anyways. Even if he said it was Floridas AD.

by Fyrebird_86 on Mar 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By underlings just

like before. What that means is he just has to say yes and he will be officially offered the position. By the way, he will be bringing one of the best incoming freshman players in the country with him if it works out. First one to get the name right say it loud.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DANIEL ORTON??? Oh wait. . .

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.... thanks for the info

I hope he says yes and I hope we get it done soon.

GBB!!!

by OGETARTS on Mar 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Crawford signed by the Knicks today for a 10 day contract.

Congrats, Joe C.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My condolences to Joe

It is the Knicks, after all. . .

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

He gets a shot. But unfortunately its at the worst franchise in any major pro sport.

the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"

by bluesquire on Mar 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tee off at 1:00.

I will give a detailed info as I know it until noon.. Word is Mrs. Donovan will not stop the UK move this time. I do not know and have not asked where Billy D is right now because I forgot too.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's at the courthouse getting a divorce?

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I tee off with you?

Damn, you’re in Florida. Ug.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wish I could tee off in Florida

"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."

by ukpastor on Mar 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy D

IF this is a done deal, just be certain that Billy D is not going to be announced until the CONTRACT IS SIGNED so this whole disappearing bit could be Dr. Todd, MB, and BD all in negotiations…plus UFAD would be working the VCU→Bama→UF angle simultaneously

Billy D hasn’t had NCAA worthy teams since he lost 5 players to the pros… look at what some of those players are up to…he has a talent vacuum right now. If he comes to UK, believe that he may try to rescind Villarino but Hood and Orton will come plus at least a couple of his own recruits! And the next recruiting class will be markedly different.

Billy D will be off to a running start withOUT Calathes and I don’t think he really cares. I don’t want that punk anyway…but 2 years ago he said “I’ll follow Coach D wherever”…

by UKFaninSoFla on Mar 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will say this right now.

BG will come out of this fine and he will succeed in the basketball profession. The UK program had to be silent about all things concerning BG since his remarks at the SEC tournament. Anthony Grant will do well at Florida also if BD ends up at UK. I hope BG gets an SEC job because it would be exciting. I have never said this is a done deal.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BCG Prediction

If, as looks more and more probable, Gillispie departs UK I predict that his next roster will have more total basketball talent than the roster he just left, and odds are decent that his next team will have more victories.

by Wild Weasel on Mar 27, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should we start our own final-4...?

1 seed— Donovan vs 2 seed—Calirari

3 seed— Ford vs 10 seed—Wright

Winners battle it out at WHAS 11

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't Forget

About the #16 cinderella Bobby Knight, coming out of the west bracket after defeating #1 Pitino

by Fyrebird_86 on Mar 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitino didn't even make the cut..

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't spell Pitino...

Without NIT!

An oldie… but still a goodie!!!

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love it...

that’s good stuff, can I take another cindarella though? i don’t like my choices (not that there are any better out there that are realistic)

by ukcat2169 on Mar 27, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if we had a play in game.

Sean Sutton vs Saul Smith?

"Learned to love the Cats at a young age, via tape delay."

by ukpastor on Mar 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All kidding aside...

My predictions is that our next coach, (if Billy G is removed), will be:

Travis Ford

There, you heard it here first… That’s my “prediction”…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no chance...way too young in his coaching career.

this pressure cooker is simply not for the faint of heart…

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most importantly

I will soon be kicking everyone’s ass in the tourney pool. I only need to catch hoboat (1 point ahead), and his Wake Forest pick ain’t lookin’ so hot right now. . .

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You'll pass me easily

I had a brain fart and had Wake going all the way. I swear I was sober when I picked them. Next year, no sober bracket selections.

by hoboat33 on Mar 27, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vince

Has a few cases of Knob Creek.

by blue oregon on Mar 27, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...

…not a FEW anymore… It has been a long week after all…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I just checked it. You're in first, but only 119 points possible. Yuck.

I jumped from 10 to 5 after last night. . .thanks Villanova and Mizzou!

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess I should get a screenshot now and save it. ;-)

As to the Knob Creek – unfortunately, when I left Kentucky 30 years ago I developed a taste for single malt scotch. Try to keep it a secret so I can sneak back for visits.

by hoboat33 on Mar 27, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

No problems with the scotch. Just don’t drink that swill when you visit.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPNU ticker

said uk issued statement that bcg has not been fired and no press conference is scheduled for friday….UGH

Fire Mitch,not BCG!!!

by KYCATS77 on Mar 27, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that just means

no presser has been scheduled YET

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UK is a class

organization. I doubt very much that they have left BG not knowing exactly what is going on. He probably new two weeks ago. We are Kentucky, we will be lambasted by many regardless of what happens next. But what I am hearing it is the best possible scenario for everybody and I believe UK has done everything with class in this whole affair. They can’t and they won’t and shouldn’t be giving us day to day public updates on very dilicate situations like what is going on. Remember the NCAA Tournament is going on and nobody wants to take away from that so I think all news regarding the hiring of next UK coach if there is a move made will be no sooner than Sunday night. That part is my opinion.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

completely agree...

the Administration is holding to what they have said all along…I may be in a minority, but unless BCG has told them he doesn’t want to be here, then he will be the coach next year.

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not believe that

to be true. If I wasn’t so shocked by my sources openess, I probably would of heard his coment about BG staying. My source was talking so fast my head was spinning. I couldn’t catch everything. I wasn’t in shock that I could get some kind of info on BD but the details did suprise me.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Class my A**

Is it “class” to not tell your current players the status of their coach? They have all said, including Pat P. that he “believes” BCG will be back. Is it class to have your future players and thrie parents in limbo? Is it class to not tell your current coach his status? He says he dont know and that he dont lie? Is it class to leave your devoted fan base wondering what is going down? i could go on and on..class my as*

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Mar 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right thing....

i havent seen them do ANYTHING right yet..im not holding my breath.

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Mar 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First signs should

be that Anthoney Grant will not take the Alabama job which he is suppose to let them know sometime today or tonight.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point

Would really like this to be resolved soon, though, so I can actually get some work done. . .

Fire Barnhart (and publicly flog Todd, but he can stay, I guess)

by NYCCats on Mar 27, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read somewhere he's been given 5 days

But whether the 5-days is true or not, if Alabama is left hanging at the end of the day today, it is strong evidence something is up with Donovan.

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah - might as well just make this as ridiculous as possible. We might not hear ANYTHING today, so I'd rather

be laughing while I’m not working than just wasting time clicking refresh in silence.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the

longer this goes, the likelihood that Mitch will not survive this

I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!

by tenken on Mar 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just looked

on John Clay’s facebook and the following is a quote from Larry Vaught last night

Larry Vaught -never seen such a day. don’t know what to believe. have heard so much it is mind boggling 9:53pm

I don't care who is coach as long as Kentucky is Kentucky!

by tenken on Mar 27, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in other words...

nobody has a clue and we’re all guessin’

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My final choices:

Horace Grant > Amy Grant > Grant Hill.

Horace’s MOU would state that he MUST wear the rec specs during every home game.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That point will be the reason

Horace and UK never sign a contract.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hugh Grant?

Nah – better not.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OOOHHHH.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grant Hill never recovered from microfracture surgery and will be joining Derek Jasper at UNLV

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overachieved

While we’re waiting for the announcement that may or may not come, here is a basketball thought, or two, or three:

After viewing last night’s games and measuring the athleticism and basketball abilities of those players as compared to those of UK — especially on the perimeter — what ever doubt that remained in my mind that the 22 victories accumulated by Cats this season was without question a considerable overachievement was erased. With the exception of Patterson and Meeks — even those two wouldn’t be stars — not one player on UK’s roster could make the starting lineup for Nova, Mizzou, Memphis, Duke, Xavier, UConn, Pitt or Purdue.

A recent (before the tournament) article predicted that Duke would not seriously contend for a national championship in the coming decade. Last night was only further confirmation. The pattern to defeating Duke is simple and has been implemented by most coaches: out-athlete them, defeat them one-on-one off the dribble, and defend the 3 because Duke is ineffective in penetration. If you haven’t interpreted the euphemism, putting it more succinctly: Duke, as the aforementioned article concluded, has too many white players.

Memphis’ demise was a conflation of two factors: Weak conference competition leading to inexperience versus pressure from comparable athletes, and the relative youth of the team. If Tyreke Evans returns and with the #1 recruiting class look for Memphis to be improved although their conference schedule will limit their growth.

My coaching choices:

  1. - Gillispie stays (not likely)
  2. - Calipari (less likely)
  3. - Ford (family)
  4. - Donovan (ambivalent)

by Wild Weasel on Mar 27, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on your basketball comments

1) i think PP or Meeks could be a starter on most of those teams – maybe not all, but a good number. would agree that they would not be the go to guy, necessarily. PP is more a 4 than a 5 so, that probably increases the potential for starting on those teams. agree 100% on the rest of the team (although harris might make on one)
2) on Duke – not going there. i do think they could be in a slump era (doing better than us right now, but a slump for them)
3) i get sick of hearing about the winning streak in CUSA – Cal has done a better job on the OOC schedule, but most of that is pre Feb. i think Cal is the best recruiter in the nation right now, however, his teams do not hit free throws – and i consider on of the most basic coaching blunders that can be made. He looks flat out coached by mike anderson. as to next year – yes he will simply “roll the ball out and let them play” and will go far. his defensive coaching was better this year but i think that had to do more with the athletes than the coaching

of your choices, i would rank them:
bcg
BD (but also ambivalent)
Ford (too young)
cal(not my first choice – obviously- sort of ambivalent but leaning toward no)

by memphis wildcat on Mar 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am sorry

that I have not been able to read what people are writing and asking but just do not have time right now. I will have a phone call back from my person but I will not be near a computer to update anybody. I will be back online after I go supplement my income on the golf course. I will leave all with this. I believe we will all be proud IFand WHEN this gets done. My gut feeling from everything I do know about Florida and UK basketball, it will get done. I try to be logical and cannot stand rumors.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Billy Donovan

being offered the job as our next head coach in no way makes me “proud” of anything.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Especially not if the deal was in place while BCG still had the job.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually heard...

…Our next coach would gonna’ be Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, and he was gonna’ order the e-Rupp-tion zone to storm the court after every win…!

Just what I heard… ;-)

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

since there's nothing solid coming in...

what are the odds UK hires Anthony Grant?
5% ?

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0%

IMO

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are the chances

we sit here and talk about this all day and find out NOTHING?

by ukcat2169 on Mar 27, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

99%

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wkyt

uk and BCG to meet this afternoon

by phatcat74 on Mar 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Baker Reporting

Dave Baker reporting on WKYT that a sit down among Todd, Barnhart and Gillispie will be this afternoon and news may follow.

by Wild Weasel on Mar 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is hilarious. Great work.

http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=16262

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Silence bad for BG

I have been lurking here all day hoping for some “breaking news” and I just had to jump in and respond to the thought we will hear nothing today.
Don’t you think that’s a BAD sign for BG?
I mean, if he is staying (or not being fired…however you want to look at it) why wait? If anything, waiting pulls MORE attention away from the NCAA tourney. If you announce “he’s our coach” there is no reason for national media to continue to talk about it besides “Oh yah, and Billy G is staying at Kentucky…Anyway…”
I think no news today is bad news for the “keep Billy G” camp. Because the only reason to wait is to make sure you have the next coach on board before you make it official.
JMHO

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think there's truth to that.

The only reason to say NOTHING right now is either:

1. Actually undecided – seems unlikely, but who knows?

2. Want commitment from incoming coach before releasing ANYTHING.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually Undecided

I dont know how unlikely that is. As someone on here (I forget who) has pointed out the administration has never waivered in saying that this would be handled at the end of the season – discussion and evaluation, etc. Billy seems to me to be a very honest guy and he has consistently said that he has not been in any meetings with Barnhart and Todd and I believe him. I think it could totally be possible that today’smeeting is the “things have got to change” talk we have all been aniticpating and the decision will be made based upon Billy’s response.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO

I think BCG’s staying is conditional upon him signing the contract and MB truly doesn’t know if he will…I continue to believe that BCG is UK’s coach, unless BCG doesn’t want to be here…but he has to sign the contract…

by bradylteague on Mar 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is speculation

but it seems to me that BCG wants to be here and not sign the contract, period.

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not going to get it both ways at this point.

by hoboat33 on Mar 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thus BCG is saying he wants to be here

and UK is going to suggest he does not. (?)

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever happens

UK is going to spin the hell out of it; which, of course, is appropo since the whole issue has been spinnig out of control for a month.

by hoboat33 on Mar 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we have already heard the news.

In the presser UK released it said very plainly that Coach has not been fired. Maybe that’s it. Why would they put out another presser to confirm what was already said?

by Oakie.myers on Mar 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't they...

just be sitting down to talk this afternoon and in essence say “get your act together, sign this contract, and we’re good to go”? we all think it has to be on this fast track, maybe it could just take a little while to get it all together…not likely, just a thought

by ukcat2169 on Mar 27, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i mean

it has only been 36 hours since they stepped off the court for their final game

by ukcat2169 on Mar 27, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could be, except

why is it that no one who knows anything is willing to say they think coach will be back next year?

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly Gobe Igbloo

WHY wait to say Billy G is going to be the coach? Why wouldn’t Mitch or somebody else at UK make a phone call last night and say “Tell those idiots that Billy G is our coach. We’re going to meet and discuss possible other changes. But Billy G WILL be the head coach next year”

No good (for billy g) reason to let the pot simmer.

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only reason i can think of is if...

billy says “take your contract and stuff it and I am who I am”, then they are caught with their pants down again…again not likely i understand

by ukcat2169 on Mar 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reason

Sounds like a pretty good reason to me. I mean why would it be so hard to believe that the meeting will lay out the “ground rules” and identify what is and is not acceptable from a UK coach and that it would then place the ball in Gillispie’s court? Maybe they really dont know what the decision will be because it all depends on how Gillispie responds to the demands of the meeting. I dont see that as very far fetched at all.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what do you make of BCG's public comments

which continue to be “that decision is not up to me” and “I’m at the mercy of the other man”

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really believe him

that he hasnt been told anything at this point.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think he's completely in the dark?

as in “I have no idea what’s going on” rather than that he knows MB is waiting for him to sign the contract or else.

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

He may know what is coming at the meeting in some sense, but I do believe that he has not been directly told either way about his status at this point.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coach back...

Patterson has said that. i mean i know hes only the super stud of the team , so what does he know?

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Mar 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but let me say

You are right that he is an exception to what I said, the way I phrased it. But I think my point still stands.

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he knows but....

he has no reason to think hes not coming back…i think its piss poor of barnhart, univers. etc to let these guys wondering like this……thats what will drive me away if this happens.

Hey Mitch, dont destroy Kentucky basketball!!

by Magnoliacat on Mar 27, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy D future

go to gatorsports.com very good

by phatcat74 on Mar 27, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was all posted yesterday. Old news.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Mar 27, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From WLEX website:

A group of student camped out at Memorial Coliseum Thursday night and made it loud and clear they want the coach to stay during a sort of ‘mini-protest’ against any potential action by the administration..

The group said they thought Billy Gillispie has done a good job as coach so far and hasn’t had enough time to turn Kentucky basketball around.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Skip anyway

Go start another group!

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As an employee of a higher education institution...

Should you really be encouraging this young man to skip class?!!?

;-)

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops!

You are probably right. In that case, I wound encourage his instructor to cancel class and help with the forming of the pro-Gillispie group.

There, That’s better. Thanks Chirop! ;)

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anytime!

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm curious

when a coach and program part ways like this (assuming it happens), does the coach usually sign a legal document regarding terms of the separation? If so, with BCG that could be interesting.

by Gobe Igbloo on Mar 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The state university

that I work at has what is called a “separation form” which the employer is to complete when an employee leaves. The employees signature is NOT required on the form. I dont know if UK is the same. Just saying.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be.

I just know that is the protocol we follow – that includes college deans, etc. Employee signature is not needed on separation forms – just the employer. Ofcourse the majority of employees sign when the split is a matter of them (the employee) leaving on their own terms but in times of termination, most often those employees do not sign. Either way – employee signature is not required.

I believe in Billy G.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Mar 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I arranged to break my contract with my previous employer...

Part of the deal was that I wrote a “resignation letter” that could be distributed by my employer as he saw fit. Basically, if I went out in the community and said “That guys a jerk and abused me everyday while kicking puppies up against a wall” he could show the letter and say “That’s not what it says here.”

I don’t know if that’s typical in these sorts of situations, but I know its not unheard of.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When??

I wish someone would give us a TIME they are meeting so we had some idea when to expect an announcement. If they don’t meet until 5pm no reason to be on pins and needles until after that.

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When will then be now?

Colonel Sandurz: Now, you’re looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
Dark Helmet: What happened to then?
Colonel Sandurz: We passed then.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now. Were at now, now.
Dark Helmet: Go back to then!
Colonel Sandurz: When?
Dark Helmet: Now.
Colonel Sandurz: Now?
Dark Helmet: Now!
Colonel Sandurz: I can’t.
Dark Helmet: Why?
Colonel Sandurz: We missed it.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now.
Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Colonel Sandurz: Soon.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When??

I don’t really see a reason to be on pins and needles anyway. This is all out of our control, so just sit back and relax everyone :D

by blueninja on Mar 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just saying I would like to know when we can expect an announcement of some sort. If they are meeting right now I want to keep my radio on and my browser refreshing. But if the meeting isn’t even until 4 or 5 I can focus on work for now instead! LOL

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if Billy G stays?

You think head(s) roll at WHAS for blowing the story?

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Call Dr Todd

And explain your situation, I am sure based on what is at stake, they will adjust to your schedule.

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL. If I had it my way they would have been saying immediately “Billy G is our coach and we’ll have him here if he is willing to stay” and WHAS never would have had a story to get everything all crazy and out of control.

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Funny enough Story, Clay and Tipton didn’t consider the Edwards interviews major items at the time. The SEC comment was bigger. It was right after that that one of the ESPN writers exploded the news that Billy was embattled.

Sadly, if there wasn’t some substance behind all of this, Mitch should have never allowed it to progress to this point, as others and Pat Forde have already suggested.

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

that there must be some substance.
Unfortunately, I think WHAS would not have run with the story last night if they didn’t have REALLY credible sources.
At this point I think it’s up to Mitch or Lee to publically say “No—this is false” and they are not doing that. (sorry a weak “he’s not been fired…yet” press release doesn’t count in my opinion) So…I’m thinking that means this meeting is the formal “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out”

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

And we all understand and appreciate nuance and having to get all the ducks in a row but it is always infuriating.

Well, Mitch did find a way to make UK relevant duing the NCAA once again huh?

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

It’s all a ploy to keep UK in the headlines!

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat Forde Chat
Matt (Nashville, TN): Whats the latest on the Kentucky coaching front? I’m about to break the refresh button on my browser.

SportsNation Pat Forde: (2:02 PM ET ) Matt: I hear ya. From what I can gather there are meetings going on right now that should lead to either a resignation or dismissal of Gillispie. But that’s all I know. I expect something today, but none of us knows when. We’re all sitting and waiting, too.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=25603

by GoLightning on Mar 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Noticed the Billy G headline went from the bottom to the top of the list too. Guess more than Kentuckians are looking on with interest.

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat Forde Chat

Just about every 3rd question is re: UK/BG
LOL.

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Presser at 4

Local radio guy just twittered that media is being told UK press conf. at 4pm…team meeting in 45 minutes

by AthKat on Mar 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any links to confirm that ?

by Dini-D-Alum on Mar 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOX 35

FOX 35 in Orlando reports Donavan to Ky

by phatcat74 on Mar 27, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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