Afternoon Newspaper for February 12th
The big news of today would have to be the thumping North Carolina put on the Duke Blue Devils last night. It's really too bad both those teams can't lose the same game, but life goes on. More about this in the main section of the news.
The other big news is that South Carolina is apparently trying to make a legal case against Michael Phelps for the photograph of him taking a bong hit. I wonder if this would happen if he weren't an Olympic multi-medal winner?
Now, for the rest of the news.
Kentucky Basketball News
- Patterson dodges bullet, injury not serious.
- Anything but Gatorade reviews the Florida game.
- Galloway got his chance against Florida and made the most of it. Is this a trend, or just a spike on the strip chart?
- More on Galloway. It it my imagination, or is the press giving this the "He's been hiding in plain sight" treatment. I think that's absurd. He has played some, had some good games and bad games. But what we don't see is how he practices, or what he does elsewhere. I think that's important.
Hopefully, though, we are seeing the kind of breakout I expect (to be fair, have been expecting for some time) out of Liggins any day. - More on the death of Daniel Orton's mother. This has to be hard on the family.
- A little French language review of the Gators and the Wildcats, for those French speaking readers among us.
- Arkansas falls apart against the Auburn Tigers. Just our luck. Against UK, they will look like they did against Texas.
- Donovan doesn't hold Calathes responsible for the loss. Well, how the hell could he? Without Calathes, the Gators would have been torn to shreds and sold for belts and boots.
- Chris Fisher says that Patterson was in obvious pain. No doubt that's true, and I agree that middle finger is giving him fits. He was way, way off the other night.
- Jodie Meeks described as a "one hit wonder." Heh. [Hat Tip: Aaron's blog.]
- Patterson does not have a "high ankle sprain."
- "Gator tail is best when it’s Kentucky Fried."
- Tom Leach talks to Jodie Meeks and Nick Calathes. Some other good stuff in there as well.
- John Clay has ten thoughts about Tuesday's game. Nine of them are interesting.
- YES!
- Seth Davis thinks everybody wishes they were a Dookie, particularly UK fans. Seth Davis is probably the most disconnected from reality of any media figure I know of.
Kentucky Football News
- How far are hoops programs from gridiron glory? Well, I guess that depends on the definition of "glory." To me, three bowl invitations and three wins are halcyon days, indeed.
- The Walker brothers. How special they will be.
NCAA Basketball News
- Intentional Foul reviews the Duke-UNC game. Briefly. Don't watch the video, it makes no sense to anyone but the author.
- Run with the Tar Heels at your own risk.
- Xavier upset again. Wake Forest too.
NCAA Football News
- Tougher penalties for celebrating in college football? I don't know, I think they may be carrying this thing too far.
Other News of Interest
- Gary Henderson's new charges are strong up the middle, untested elsewhere, according to this article. More on the Bat Cats in this article from Brett Dawson of the Courier-Journal.
- Kentucky women's basketball has a team meeting. After losing 5 out of six, it seems a good time.
- Gregg Doyel thinks the new NBA H-O-R-S-E game will be cool. I agree. I also agree that the slam dunk contest is no longer cool, and I also agree with him. I think they should change the rules so that you have to dunk on a 12' goal. Now that would be more interesting.
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Haha
Nice call on the video. I couldn’t get over the replay of K’s reaction. ;)
Thanks for the link love.
by IFChris on Feb 12, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're welcome.
That video was way weird. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Feb 12, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great line ...
…. “Without Calathes, the Gators would have been torn to shreds and sold for belts and boots.”
by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Arkansas game scares me
Even more so with Patterson not at 100%, if he plays at all. This has the classic “bad team gets up for big opponent” written all over it – the kind of game where the main guys get their averages and a couple of 1.5ppg guys eat their Wheaties and score in double figures only to not be heard from the rest of the season.
I really, REALLY hope I’m wrong, but I’m concerned about this Saturday.
...when you let other people tell you what success is, you already have no chance of ever finding it. - Doug Glanville
by JLeverenz on Feb 12, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stop the 3
The Cats better be ready to, because the Razorbacks aren’t afraid to shoot them.
by IFChris on Feb 12, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the primary thing that concerns me
Arkansas isn’t a great 3pt shooting team (33.8%, a bit below average) but they take so many that every once in a while they will have a game where they hit a bunch of them and this is the kind of game where I can see that happening.
...when you let other people tell you what success is, you already have no chance of ever finding it. - Doug Glanville
by JLeverenz on Feb 12, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See the MST/Arkansas game from the weekend
Both teams shot TONS, both made a very high percentage, but MST made more, and won.
We can’t let this turn into a 3 point battle – we’ll lose that.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"bad team gets up for big opponent"
…AT HOME. I know what you are saying JL!
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 12, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Patterson/Lofton & Random
Not to confuse the equivalence of testicular cancer with a hand injury but a recurrence of the Christ Lofton situation with that of Patrick Patterson is, I think, a distinct possibility, i.e. at the end of the season — perhaps sooner — it will be announced that Patterson’s injury was considerably more serious than earlier acknowledged.
The difference if football and basketball programs is essentially one of numbers: 85 versus 13 scholarships. Finding that number of talented individuals in the available talent pool — itself another prime factor — renders improvement a much more difficult task.
UNC vs Duke: the team with the most talented athletes won as is usually the case and if Heels can perform defensively for 40 minutes as they did in the final 20 minutes against Duke they’ll win NC. Defensive lapses will be their undoing.
As for Arkansas, I’m concerned about nearly every UK opponent and have been for several years but I’m looking forward to the time when the sheer talent advantage will reduce such concern.
by Wild Weasel on Feb 12, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gillispie has said ...
… that the medical staff says that his finger is getting better, but he still needs to have it heavily bandaged, which in my opinion, is why his shooting percentage has dropped considerably.
Gillispie sounds the same now as when he was talking about Meeks’ injury last year. Kind of baffled at what he’s being told by the medical people.
Until the bandage size is reduced or gone altogether, I’m afraid Patterson will not be the same. He’s said that he’s adjusting, but he’s said that numerous times since the injury.
by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway
I disagree with you Senor Tru on the Galloway bit. I have been saying for awhile he needs to be playing more. I think we can all see defensively he needs improvement, but every time I’ve seen him play, he brings an aggression we need on the offensive end. Of course I am pretty smart, and my mom did say I have a face for radio…
Anyways, remember last year when Jasper and Bradley both started? It gave us two legitimate ball handlers on the court who could create their own shot or find a teammate. If you start Galloway instead of Harris, that’s what you’ve got again. I think Galloway’s offensive potential outweighs the defense of Harris.
by daniel81 on Feb 12, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plus I really like having a "point foward" on the floor along with a more traditional P/LG.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced.
Maybe he will convince me later.
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by Truzenzuzex on Feb 12, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got to post this here
This is a must read:
by btcoop71 on Feb 12, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I referenced that in another thread. Hilarious, and I think Matt makes very good points (with nice jabs at Davis, ESPN, and Duke).
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Best-written post I have seen from Matt in some time.
You can tell when somebody means it. Their grammar improves, as does their sentence structure and reasoning. Matt meant that, and it showed.
I don’t mean to say he doesn’t usually write well, but he does tend to over-word paragraphs and lose me sometimes. Not this time. Focused like a laser, that was, and it left no doubt whatever about either his loyalty, or ultimately, his bona fides as a Kentucky fan. Great stuff.
More, please.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Feb 12, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Passion has a tendency to articulate itself.
Things sound better when you mean it, and I agree, you can certainly see that here.
by DeadHeadCat on Feb 12, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.... thanks for the link
That certainly makes the game on Saturday a lot easier.
GBB!!!
by OGETARTS on Feb 12, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Wonder what he did? They already had to suspend that freshman forward for a DUI (I think he's playing again now).
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another Link
Pelphrey would not elaborate on why Fortson was suspended beyond saying, “It’s my decision.”
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/sports_article.asp?aID=112420.33220.124503&spID=5
GBB!!!
by OGETARTS on Feb 12, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a game changer
Suggest you post this as a FanShot.
by Acdixon on Feb 12, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch.
I wonder why? I fear academics, although I hope I’m wrong.
I am not pleased. I want a team’s best shot. If we can’t go down and beat them with Fortson, we don’t deserve the victory, and this is likely to make us less focused.
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by Truzenzuzex on Feb 12, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about wanting everyone’s "best shot".....
But, I also think playing teams who are not at their full strength due to injuries is totally different than playing teams who are not at their full strength due to academics. Injuries are very unfortunate and the players (and teams) really can’t control whether they happen or not. Barring any emergency personal issues or family problems that may happen to the player, that isn’t usually the case with academics; the player usually does have total control over his studies and how he performs in the classroom.
If Fortson’s suspension is indeed for academics as you suggest (and I tend to agree that it might be) then I think a victory for us on Saturday would definitely be deserved.
Our players have to abide by the same academic standards and rules that other teams do and if Arkansas is not at full strength on Saturday due to academics, and we do come away with a victory, I think that for the simple fact that our guys have worked hard in the classroom and have made sure they are academically eligible – they will deserve every minute of that W.
by BigSkyCat on Feb 12, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seth Davis....
I know that Seth Davis isn’t the greatest analyst etc. and I am not a fan of his (I dont loathe him either). Mostly I just ignore him. When I listened to the interview with Bomani Jones where he said UK fans “have an inferiority complex of Duke”, I was expecting much worse. There is a grain of truth there. He did not say the UKprogram is inferior to Duke but that the fans have the inferiority complex. Personally I think there is a grain of truth there. There is no way any UK fan would admit that however I know from many many conversations wiith friends that there is a jealousy factor there. I have heard other posters elsewhere laugh this off saying UK has a better tradition, more championships, they just dont like Duke rather than have a complex and that there is no way Duke is a better program that UK. But that isnt what Seth said. Over the last 10 years Coach K and Dxke have become the marquee program in college basketball. ESPN and Dickie V love to talk all things Duke. We UK fans want that kind of hype all the time and if someone doesnt give it to us we blame them for hating UK. If that is not jealousy (no matter how small) I dont know what it is. I may not be able to explain this concept well enough but I can feel the jealousy when reading posts and talkiing to friends. Deep down I would never expect a UK fan to admit but rather rationalize things to fit their argument.
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by SevenRings on Feb 12, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit it
I think Seth is right. If not for some of the posters around here, then for several fans across the Commonwealth. And I think he’s right for all the reasons you put forth.
I am jealous. I’m jealous that in my memories of the mid-late nineties… I still remember Duke being more hyped than the Cats. I want that for us. I want other fans to groan that all media personalities are falling over themselves to plant their lips around the figurative manhood of the Wildcat nation.
I really have no problem with admitting that and I don’t see what the problem is with recognizing it.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Feb 12, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not the least bit jealous of Duke, never have been and never will be.
Speaking only for myself, I don’t feel in any way inferior to or jealous of Duke. I loathe them only because they have earned it, not because of their exploits on the basketball floor. Kentucky as a program is so superior historically it isn’t worth mentioning, and we have had only one fewer national championship during their golden years as they themselves have had. Their biggest claim to fame is failure — when you get to as many final fours as they have and only have 3 championships to show for it, that is failure.
Duke unquestionably gets an unfair amount of love from many sports commentators, and ESPN and other media outlets are simply lousy with their alumni. Seth Davis’ example is a perfect one — not only is he utterly clueless about basketball, it is clear he has never spent any time whatever on a basketball court. I could spot him 18 points in a game to 21 and beat him, and I must be close to 20 years his senior with two bad knees.
Duke earned my contempt with the utterly unsportsmanlike actions of Christian Laettner and the continuing failure of their fans who actually remember the act to admit the foulness of that act, and they reinforce my loathing with the continuing elitist way they recruit, act, and behave. I have forgotten more about Kentucky basketball in the last five minutes than any Duke fan is likely to ever know about his team. They wear their own ignorance as a badge of honor, as if they are to important to become steeped in the lore and history of their own team.
I would rather be dead by slow poison and left to decompose in an open sewer in Cairo than be a Duke fan for even one microsecond. Their very existence is an abomination to me, and an example of the grossest and most disgusting form of hubris and condensation. I do not agree with anything Seth Davis says with respect to Kentucky fans, and I see Duke as a sad example of what happens in a cult of personality. When Krzyzewski eventually retires, Duke will gradually become a mediocre team.
And I will hate them not one whit less, but probably enjoy it more.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Feb 12, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Tru...
I feel the same way as you do. No way do I think UK basketball is inferior to Duke. They cannot even come close to our fans and history. I certainly do not envy their program as Duke will always be the team jealous of UK. Seth got it backwards IMO.
I hated that Laetner stomp and I will never forget it even after all these years. It was just something that will forever live in my mind.
UK basketball is too precious with the legacy we have and I don’t care what anyone says…We are #1 in the history books and always will be.
by kykat51 on Feb 12, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Tru
I hate Duke because of the arrogance that surrounds their fans and the media that fawns all over them. Duke is Coach K. No Coach K = no Duke.
Not a more annoying fan base in any sport. Not Ohio State football, not Boston Red Sox, not New York Yankees…….no one even close.
by btcoop71 on Feb 13, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seth (Big Liberal) Davis
think of the high regard for Duke, in the national media, as a socio-political thing. It has been surveyed that up to 90% of the national media is Liberal. I would suspect that this creeps into the sports media as well. Duke is an elitist, left-wing university (as are most these days) while Kentucky voted for George Bush & John McCain. We here in the Commonwealth are part of fly-over country, too stupid or ignorant to understand the subtle points that Davis & his colleagues spout off each broadcast. Liberals are elitist snobs who think they know more about everything than common, ordinary working folks who make this country work on a daily basis.
If you look at it thru this prism, his comments can be understood for what they are.
by Bluegilla on Feb 13, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chalking...
this up to politics is just another way for someone to further their own agenda.
by the spork on Feb 13, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No politics, please
Tru will freak out when he reads this.
by Ken Howlett on Feb 13, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed with Ken. Not a very fair argument, Tru will get very angry,
and FWIW, North Carolina voted for Bush in 2004 and Obama in 2008, but only by less than 14000 votes (1% split).
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 13, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm not angry ...
… but I do insist that we get off the politics and onto the sports. Politics divides us. Sports in many ways unites us. Think of me as a uniter. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Feb 13, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope, don't think that flies
I think this is an interesting argument, but it just doesn’t hold water to me. First of all, Coach K’s a Republican, and has held fundraisers for Republican candidates such as Elizabeth Dole. I think UNC/Duke actually could be examined in a liberal vs conservative prism, with Duke in the conservative role (Dean Smith has stumped for Democrats in addition to K doing this for the GOP, plus you could view it as the elitist, big-money private school vs the populist state university) but UK/Duke falls apart pretty quickly in this analysis. North Carolina as a state doesn’t really represent Duke anyway, and as blbskue says, the state of Carolina is HARDLY reliably Democratic (lately anyway). Even if you want “the east coast elite” to stand in for Duke in the analogy, Duke is really more of that Wall Street elite (much more right-swinging) than it is of the the lefty academic elite (your fellow Americans, mind you) that you seem so full of rage toward.
Also, I’m a liberal and am a proud Kentucky girl, by anyone’s standards a “common, ordinary working” person and I don’t believe my politics make me any less American than yours do.
At any rate—we can agree on one thing: Duke undoubtedly sucks. Go Cats!
by blue kentucky girl on Feb 13, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UHHHHH!!!
Coach K is a republican? I wasnt aware of that. That makes me sick to my stomach becuase I too am a republican!!!!! This is an emergency. I now have to register as a Democrat. I must now become a crazy liberal so as not to share any similarities with K. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Feb 13, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
sorry, davw! Didn’t mean to ruin your day like that. We’ll be glad to have ya on the other side ; )
Just kidding—I’m a firm believer in the fact that there are good and smart and worthy people on any side of pretty much anything, and pretending otherwise just to make it easier for you to bash the other side (“liberals are elitist snobs,” for example) is just ignorant. There are probably even some pretty cool Duke fans, somewhere out there! I mean, I’ve never met one, but in theory that has to be true, right?!
by blue kentucky girl on Feb 13, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. It doesn't have to be true.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Feb 13, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a thought, but maybe the word 'hate' should be only be used...
…in regards to Nazi’s, terrorists, child molesters, etc. It seems to be being somewhat an unbiased viewer, the tone of some of these posts suggests that Seth Davis is right on. You guys are kind of making his point.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Feb 13, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh please, Pollyanna
come on, you’re gonna have a quote like “..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun…that’s the Chicago way” as your sig, and then you’re gonna get all shocked at the use of the word “hate”? Come on, don’t be a pansy! I think it’s quite clear when sports rivals say they “hate” each other, it’s meant in a jocular way.
by blue kentucky girl on Feb 13, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
blue kentucky girl
I am assuming you got your power back?? Hopefully so as we have missed you!
by kykat51 on Feb 13, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, no
Still no power for me! Seventeen days and counting. We do have the internet here at work now, thankfully, so I’m not totally out of civilization anymore, and I’m able to sneak on here on occasion : )
by blue kentucky girl on Feb 13, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It can be true, sometimes...
One of the guys I went to grad school with is a Duke fan and he’s a nice, rational person who appreciates good basketball no matter who’s playing it.
Of course, he might just be the exception that proves the rule. ;-)
...when you let other people tell you what success is, you already have no chance of ever finding it. - Doug Glanville
by JLeverenz on Feb 13, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's leave ...
… the liberal/conservative debate to the poliblogs. We don’t need to get sidetracked on that here.
Let’s just stick to his stance on basketball.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Feb 13, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm jealous
of the 3 titles they have,the small rat hole gym,and Dick Vitale having a gay man-crush on Coach K.I really see what UK has to be jealous of. : )
by -Zoso- on Feb 12, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For the record, just for the record, you understand,
we are 11-8 against the aforementioned team home-based in Durham, NC. No other time-frame other than total record is meaningful, because you could cut off the comparison at a single game and say, “We’re better than you are, because we won last night.” Doesn’t mean a thing!! What’s the all-time record. That means something.
Davis is like a lot of people who thing the world started when they became aware of their surroundings. He thinks only the last 10, or 20, years is meaningful because he says it is so. Bull! I’m almost 62, and I’d be glad to play his shrunken butt, too. He sounds like the kid who was the last one chosen for the 5th grade basketball team and hasn’t gotten over it. In the absence of substance, his opinion will have to suffice.
By the way, the same, although inverse, argument applies to those of my generation and before who believe that nothing that has happened since 1970 is important. That is equally bull.
The bottom line is that over the total history of college basketball in the United States, there is ONE, and only ONE preeminent program, and that’s UK. Sorry, but that’s the way it is. Not only the subjective overview says that, but so does the objective analysis that was done a few months back by someone ?. So what do we have to feel inferior to?
Now, let’s all go wash our mouths out for even saying the D-word. Kill the taste with Woodford’s (That’s something else they can’t produce in NC.).
No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!
by oldcat'69 on Feb 12, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
South Carolina Court System back logged until 2020!!!
Woody is very mis-informed… First thing is someone should send him the Gabriel video about Rupp and his recruitment of african american players… Second is how does a one hit wonder be third in the country in scoring… Geez!!!
If the state of South Carolina prosecutes everyone who is in a picture smoking weed then my guess is the court system will be bogged down for years to come…
Seth Davis… What an ass!!! I do have respect for Duke and watched them allot when I was on the East Coast and pulled for them also because of the rivalry with UNC and my disgust of Dean Smith (The greatest defender in college basketball history because he held Jordan under 20 points every game) but hell I even rooted for U of L in 86 against them… ESPN has made them the center of the basketball universe (whatever that means)…
I am envious of any team in the top 10 right now because we are not… Seth will get his… He will probably not see it coming either…
ShagOnSports - "people should know when they are conquered"
by ShagOnSports on Feb 12, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Woody
I do sense a bais. Something does not ring true when Woody said he became close to Adolph Rupp then asserted that age-old lie that UK basketball alone was behind in recruiting African American players and that was because of Rupp. (By ring true, I mean he was lying or mistaken to the point of losing credibility.) Geez is right!!! I saw the video and I must admit afterwards I felt a little guilty that I believed some of the revisionist history surrounding Rupp. Of course, I’d like to think I would have done some research before printing articles about him.
Michael Phelps is the victim of his own fame and kindness. He could (and should) have said sorry it was a joke there wasn’t really anything in the bong. I used bad judgment about what I thought was funny…Glad to hear that the legal system is keeping me safe from dangerous Olympians. We need to stop him over there before he winds up in my pool breaking my lap record.
by LyricSmith on Feb 12, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL about Phelps
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by SevenRings on Feb 12, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rupp
Don Haskins who died last year was quoted as saying that he did not even realize he had started and played five african american players until someone pointed it out to him two weeks after the game… He said that UK, especially Pat Riley was to quick so he altered his lineup… He said the UK players very gracious and said nothing really negative about Rupp…
Long time Sportwriter Frank Deford claimed to be in the locker room at halftime and heard Rupp make multiple racist remarks but both Larry Conley has said that there was no way Rupp would have let a reporter into the locker room and nothing off color was said by Rupp…
I wish UK would have lost in the semis that year to Duke…
Ditto LOL about Phelps…
Revisionist History… I like the term…
ShagOnSports - "people should know when they are conquered"
by ShagOnSports on Feb 12, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frank DeFord
He’s full of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with that one...
ShagOnSports - "people should know when they are conquered"
by ShagOnSports on Feb 14, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haskins' Starting Lineup
Most of the time that year, Haskins started 5 black players. Sometimes, Jerry Armstrong started but not often. His top 7 players (in terms of PT and PPG) were blacks.
The players who started against UK aslo started against Utah, Kansas, and Cincy in earlier NCAA games.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 15, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Duke vs. UNC
I unfortunately am a UK fan that lives in NC. I used to despise Duke fans and everything Duke. After living in NC, I have found there is no more obnoxious fan in the world than a UNC fan. Every year after the UK and UNC game, they say everything in the world to me to rub it in. At least we don’t have to play Duke every year and get taunted and belittled. I will tell you that it bites….
by 87ukalum on Feb 12, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I...
work with one and he is bad enough so I couldn’t imagine living down there. Don’t know any Duke fans….atleast, none that I have let live.
by the spork on Feb 12, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UNC And UCLA
My best friend, roommate for 4 years in military and best man in my wedding was a UNC undergrad and a UCLA law school grad. Think that didn’t make for interesting conversations. After 1998 NC game he called from California to congratulate and said, to the effect, I suppose you think you guys are gonna play for championship every year. To which I answered, “Of course”. I returned favor in 2005 when Heels won, he died shortly thereafter.
by Wild Weasel on Feb 12, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UK
equals UNC and Duke in NCAA titles combined.We are the program,not some one trick pony.
by -Zoso- on Feb 12, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ND v UL
Notre Dame is absolutely embarassing Louisville. As I type it is 67-38….wow
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by SevenRings on Feb 12, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And an upcoming free throw (just fouled on a 3 pointer and made it) to push the lead to 30. Wow.
I hope Arkansas doesn’t remember how to play like this against us on Saturday.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ND up by 32. Jeezzzz.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just can't help it.
I am Irish descent and my Dad loved ND.
by kykat51 on Feb 12, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fried Gator Tail...
Well I have had it but the best dish I ever had in Fl was braised with rice, tomatoes, green peppers and onions. Now that was absolutely delicious! Better than chicken folks and so tender! Ummm…ate me some gator!
by kykat51 on Feb 12, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
90-57 ND over Louisville. Wow.
Pitino’s worst Big East loss EVER.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Feb 12, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Louisville loss...
I did not watch the game but I find it unbelievable that UL lost by that margin. I had to check it ot on CC when someone mentioned it.
by kykat51 on Feb 12, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch. They lost by 33 points.
Wow.
GBB!!!
by OGETARTS on Feb 12, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of reminds one of that Vandy game last year huh?
What an ugly game…I would comment more, but I turned it off in disgust. Nobody looked like they wanted to be there, and then I read this morning that the flight into South Bend was canceled and they flew in the day of the game. Regardless, they played like they’d rather be sitting in a dental chair. Couple of comments from what I did see:
1. Williams is hurt more than anyone knows. It doesn’t look like he can shoot at all.
2. If UofL can’t put the ball in the basket, it’s doubly worse because they can’t press. Same goes for the last foul shot which seemed to happen a lot early when they were still in the game.
3. UofL’s talent is secondary to many schools rated in the Top 10. If they don’t play hard all the time…they can get beat…and somewhat easily.
4. In their defense, they have played an incredible schedule over the last 10 games or so. It finally caught up with them. They have a number of easy games now in front of them.
The worse thing about their performance…it had to be against Notre Dame. Yuch.
Finally, glad to see the Cards given your full attention and interest on this board.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Feb 13, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and we need to replace Pitino.
Got that, Tru? :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Feb 13, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got it. I just need a little more convitction to be convinced that you've joined the 2005 psychos. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Feb 13, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of reminds one of that Vandy game last year huh?
Just take your loss like a man. No need to bring up one of ours to try and make yourself feel better.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 13, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
Unfair comparison. The Cards only lost by 33. :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Feb 13, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cards only lost by 33
THIS time. Keep talking, Hoze. It will only make it all the sweeter when you jinx your precious cards.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 13, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I learned last night that my direct influence on the Cards from afar..
…took a beating last night. No matter how many times I turned off the TV and then came back, didn’t turn the tide. Therefore my ability to jinx the Cards has if not been compromised, has left me forever. :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Feb 13, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They were also ranked #5, playing an unranked team ... you're right, there is no comparison.
by Ken Howlett on Feb 13, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
But you have to respect my feeble attempt to reduce the suckiness of that game last night. Yuck.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Feb 13, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My uncle
I have a large extended family, most live in Louisville, and some are U of L fans.
I saw my uncle (UL fan)Tuesday night and he was worried about the ND game. I told him not to worry … I guess I was wrong.
Almost every team, every year, has a game they would like to have back. Fortunately for U of L, they may have gotten theirs over with (better than happening in the Big Dance).
And yes, you made a righteous attempt at “reducing the suckiness of the game.” :)
by Ken Howlett on Feb 13, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would not say full attention but
I have watched some UL games this because they have been doing so well in the Big East.
Did not watch last night’s game but that was indeed ugly. Games like that happen to the best of us this time of the year, but I feel Pitino will get them ready for the remaining games.
I honestly like to see all the colleges in Kentucky do well in basketball and other sports. It is good for us nationally to have great teams.
by kykat51 on Feb 13, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cardinals were unprepared for that game ...
… and they got a reminder why you can’t be. Speaking of reminders, with Arkansas 1-8, we are looking at finding ourselves (UK, that is) in a very similar situation. I don’t like it one bit.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Feb 13, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a very good point, but ...
… hopefully Gillispie won’t let them forget about the last time they took a team lightly (Ole Miss).
Plus, if Patterson doesn’t play, I look forward to seeing how Harrellson and Stevenson (and maybe Stewart) respond.
I still CANNOT believe Ark. is 1-8 in the SEC. Strange times in Fayetteville.
by Ken Howlett on Feb 13, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dreaded Dukies
For me the hate of Duke goes back to “The” shot by you know who. (I’m not about to type his name.) But I admire Coach K and the Cameron Crazies because I think that place has the best environment in college basketball and maybe in college sports.
As far as UK getting little love on ESPN and the like,we didn’t get it in the 90’s either. It was always about Pitino unable to win “the big one” or when he was going to leave. And for the most part,if you aint in the ACC you aint worth spit. Even though this year they are having a love affair with the Big East.
by maysvilleblue on Feb 12, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good week....
Duke lost; L’ville lost; and best of all, Gators lost.
by StillCatwoman on Feb 12, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whenever Dook loses,
an angel gets its wings.
by BlueInNash on Feb 13, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bwahaha! I think that's right.
Whenever Louisville wins, another soul gets blasted to the seventh circle of Hell. :-) Damn place is filling up lately.
Just kidding, Hoze. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Feb 13, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UConn suffers a huge loss
It looks like Jerome Dyson is gone for the year. He was averaging over 13 points per game.
GBB!!!
by OGETARTS on Feb 12, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"It's really too bad both those teams can't lose the same game, but life goes on."
Hahaha. Thats great Tru. Nice laugh before bedtime.
by DeadHeadCat on Feb 12, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I took Woody's Bait
I know I shouldn’t have but I wrote the following to Woody Page:
Jodie Meeks is a one-hit wonder? Wow, do you know how uninformed that makes you sound? I loved Louie Dampier too but even he never scored 40+ in 3 games. In fact only Dan Issel has accomplished that at UK (9 times). Also, you do realize that Meeks is the 4th leading scorer in Division I? One-Hit-Wonder, like the Beatles!!!
by LyricSmith on Feb 16, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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