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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Football Behind Us, Hoops Before Us

With the unfortunate 21-13 loss in the 2009 Music City Bowl and the now-anticipated retirement of Kentucky Head Football Coach Rich Brooks, the football team will be making some news between now and March, but it will be limited.

So now, we move on full speed into basketball season, where the 13-0 Kentucky Wildcats go for #14 in a row tonight against the Hartford Hawks.  We'll get a look at what good Camp Calipari, the intense practices held over the Christmas break when NCAA restrictions on practice relax, have had on this young team as we move inexorably toward our date with the Louisville Cardinals this coming Saturday.

I have already done the pre-game for tonight's game owing to a slight time-space displacement (or rather, a displacement of my time-space perception), so I'll be moving that up near the top again for your viewing and commenting pleasure in a little while.

The news follows the jump.

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GAME DAY!!!!!!!!

Yipee!!!!!!!!!!!

if we are happy, imagine how happy the players are to get a break from 3 a days!

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Dec 29, 2009 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Dodson

Heard rumor Darnell Dodson may not be eligible of the 2nd semester. Hope this isn’t true. If so, Liggins will have to step up to the plate.

by UK1972 on Dec 29, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Cal didn't mention it on the call in show last night

So I doubt its true.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Dec 29, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Pomeroy just kills me

he has made a name for himself overstating the blatantly obvious. He has a rating system that says if you are blowing out every opponent you are better than everyone else…….surprise, surprise…..

Cousins will be the key before the year is done and not John Wall. John Wall is going to carry the team to the top……Cousins will be standing there when they arrive to grab the rope and pull them over. the whole time asking, “Where you guys been?”

Seth Davis is another of the rich and obtuse set. EVERYONE knows you have to play defense to win it all. My 9 yr old can stand and watch to see when the defense is good and when it isnt. Right twice a day is just about exact for him.

Texas IS stronger than Kansas, and they still have weaknesses that a team like ours can exploit and defeat them with.

What is it about Texas and abusive personalities? I thought that was why Bobby Knight moved there……why didnt he stay?….he was a perfect fit.

Jemele Hill being put out at ESPN is like pouring the baby out with the bathwater. Why not toss some of those high-paid idiots as well??

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 29, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

KenPom Ratings More Accurate As Season Goes On

Not so accurate right now.

EG Minnesota is not #7 team in Div I.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 29, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone's ratings are more accurate as the season goes on Forty......

that’s because they all know what has happened. More data gives us more info. I guess my point is that he can claim he is the best there is at predicting what has already happened.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 29, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

True BUT

The computer based rating are notoriously inaccurate at the end of December.

Polls are more accurate now. The two methods converge by end of the season.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 29, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Then why is so much

attention being paid to something that is absolutely meaningless?

by kywineman on Dec 29, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not Meaningless At All

Just not all that accurate in ranking teams at this point.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 29, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Not meaningless.

The thing is, it somewhat accurately reflects how the teams have been playing. At this point, it just isn’t a good predictor, necessarily, of game outcomes.

That has more to do with the inputs to the system than the system itself.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 29, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I can look

at the won/lost column and the scores to tell how the teams have been playing.

by kywineman on Dec 29, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Judge Wisconsin-Green Bay by their record, do you? Hmmm. Costal Carolina?

I suppose you have heard the old saying, “Never judge a book by it’s cover.” No?

:-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 30, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I should

have emphasized the word have in my comment. I would never base a prediction of game results on the won lost record and that is the fallacy of these systems, at least in the early stages of the season.

by kywineman on Dec 30, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

KP does good work

Since it is physically impossible for someone to see every single game for every single team, some kind of methodical approach using stats is required to judge all 347 D1 teams. The idea is the exact same as that behind the RPI, Sagarin Ratings, etc.

The more information available the more accurate any method will be, whether it is stat based or a subjective listing. The advantage of a stat-based approach is that preconceptions and biases don’t influence the results (see: Coach’s and AP football and basketball polls).

The crux of the Pac-10 article is a perfect example of this: the Pac-10 is pretty bad this year so of course there is a lot of noise about how it’s the worst the conference has been all decade, etc when in reality the 2003-04 Pac-10 was pretty bad too.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Dec 29, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Pomeroy ...

… has made a name for himself by creating an excellent college basketball ratings system.

The rating system is corrupted early in the season by large margins. It would be much more accurate if everyone played a similarly weak or strong schedule early, but as we know, that doesn’t happen.

And in the instant article, what is so obvious about that? A lot of people have been commenting on the “historical weakness” of the Pac 10, so if that falsehood is obvious, there are a lot of oblivious people out there. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 29, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Pomeroy = Greenspan

The Maestro:

Flaw in the model that I perceived is a critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.

A computer model, no matter how intricate and sophisticated, can portray or predict a system as complex and emotionally influenced as global finance or athletic team competition. BCS please note.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Dec 29, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

A stopped clock is right 2x a day

Davis far less so. Maybe a broken astrolabe.

by DCBlueandWhite on Dec 29, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

Here's an idea...

Maybe Jorts can talk to the Texas Tech player that was made to stand in a small dark place?? Kind of the same type of situations, eh?? :-)

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Dec 29, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

That's what I said last night

LOL.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Dec 29, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry...

Didn’t see your post anyplace… Wasn’t trying to steal your thunder! ;-)

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Dec 29, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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