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Kentucky Basketball: UConn in the Rear-View Mirror

Looking back on last night, I think it will be most remembered as the night John Wall stormed the country and became the new Kevin Durant.  I honestly wish that had not happened, but it was all too predictable.  Now, we will have to listen to endless stories about Wall, when what I want to hear about is the team -- you know, that name that starts with a "K" and ends with a "Y" that is writ large across the front of every jersey on the team, including John Wall.  I notice Wall's name is no bigger, his jersey no finer, and his shorts do not seem to be put on by servant girls.  Let's keep that in mind.

Here at A Sea of Blue, we are going to fight through all this Wall hype and keep the team in mind.  Yes, we should and will praise John when he plays great, critique him when he plays poorly, and pretty much treat him just like every other member of the team.  I'm confident he would expect nothing less, and unless I woke up on some other planet, basketball is still a team sport.

As usual when I have time after a game, we are going to look at the results of yesterday's contest and see what enlightenment, if any, the cold, hard mathematical facts can show us.  Stats, of course, are not the be-all and end-all of basketball, it is a complex sport that has a lot of variables that statistics cannot account for -- kind of like the weather.  It isn't quite a chaos system like weather, but sometimes, you would think it was.

So let's see what the numbers tell us.  Follow me across the jump.

Star-divide

First of all, we will examine the Four Factors to Winning in basketball:

 

 

What do we see here?  Well, UConn won all but one of the four factors to winning, and lost.  "How can that happen!", you say?  "What do the Four Factors mean if you can lose three and still win?"  Well, the explanation is simple.

Let's take a look at the basic team stats, and see if something doesn't suggest itself:

Basic Team Stats 

StatGame Season AvgOpp Season Avg
KentuckyConnecticut Kentucky Connecticut Kentucky Connecticut
Points 64 61 79 75 64 65
FG Att 64 51 57 57 59 64
FG Made 25 23 28 26 22 23
FG Pct 39.1 45.1 49.2 46.3 37.7 36.9
FT Att 17 24 25 27 17 15
FT Made 11 14 16 18 11 10
FT Pct 64.7 58.3 66.7 68.3 66.5 70.0
3pt FG Att 12 6 16 10 21 20
3pt FG Made 3 1 5 3 7 6
3pt FG Pct 25.0 16.7 36.8 33.8 35.0 33.1
Rebounds 34 42 44 47 36 41
Off Rebs 15 15 14 14 13 14
Def Rebs 19 27 26 28 19 21
Team Rebs 3 4 2 5 3 4
Assists 9 11 15 15 11 11
Steals 13 3 7 7 7 7
Blocks 6 8 8 9 3 4
Turnovers 14 20 17 14 15 13
Fouls 23 18 16 15 21 22

 

Anything jump out at you?  Several things jump out at me, but the first and most important (and you have heard me harp on this before) is shot attempts.  UK got 13 more shots on goal than UConn did, and the eFG% difference is just under 5% (4.7, to be exact).  How did UK get all those extra shots?  Turnovers, mostly.  UK only had 14, and even though Wall had 7 himself, 14 turnovers is not that bad.  Also, notice that most of UConn's turnovers came off Kentucky steals, i.e. "live" turnovers that tend to lead to baskets.  I don't have a points off turnovers stat for this game, but I have no doubt UK won that statistic by a wide margin.  As an aside, Wall managed six of those steals, which makes up for his seven turnovers.

But the other difference was free throw percentage.  Despite getting seven more attempts, the Huskies shot almost 6.5% worse.  Making three more free throws would have got them to overtime.  Making four would have won the game.

I always like to look at some trends, and here is the first one that ought to warm the cockles of your heart:

 

Several of our members, including me, have been complaining about excess turnovers. Well, we are seeing progress in that area, and that is one problem that appears to be on it's way to normalization. UK is now turning the ball over less than its opponents, which of course is a very good thing.  Right now, the trend is nicely downward, but it will likely flatten out a bit due to the youth of the team.

Let's look at another encouraging trend:

 

UK's steals% is on a nice upward trend as well.  The combination of reduced turnovers and increased steals is a very potent offensive force, since steals represent "live" turnovers, and Kentucky is really good at converting open-court "live" turnovers into points.  That's a really underrated skill of this team, and it deserves more attention.

That should be enough for now.  Every time I do one of these, we'll examine some different trends of different stats, and hopefully, we can weave it all into a coherent picture of... well, okay, of victory!

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All Due Respect

I’m new here, so I don’t want to ruffle feathers, but wow, Your Basketball Nerdiness is unmatched by anyone except possibly Ken Pomeroy ( I mean that in the most positive sense). Excellent analysis, great presentation, and cool charts. Unfortunately I feel like I’m in Whitehall Classroom Building again

by Seabass6152 on Dec 10, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Heh.

Thanks. I think. :-)

Welcome to A Sea of Blue. We’re glad you’re here.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 10, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate your sentiments, Tru ....
Now, we will have to listen to endless stories about Wall, when what I want to hear about is the team — you know, that name that starts with a “K” and ends with a “Y” that is writ large across the front of every jersey on the team, including John Wall.

… but after we recruited Wall… what did you expect was going to happen ?!

Recruiting John Wall and then complaining when he breaks out into national stardom is like somebody who goes out and gets a pet tiger, and then complains to the ‘911’ operator when he has to call and report that his “pet tiger” has just chewed his arm off..!

If we wanted guys who we could bottle up and place neatly into 5 little equal spaces with “KENTUCKY” written across their chests— which is a perfectly reasonable approach— then we damn well should have gone out and recruited the next John Pelphrey, or the next Richie Farmer, instead of going out and getting the only John Wall.

by Sonic on Dec 10, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

It's obvious you missed my point.

Basketball is a team game, and even when you have a superstar, you have to play a team game to succeed.

I bemoan all the hyperbole because it is both unnecessary and over the top. Wall is a very good player, but he has only played nine games. Furthermore, he has a habit of trying to do too much, which will prevent he and the team from reaching their goals.

Basketball is a team game, and requires a team to be successful. That doesn’t change if you have a great player. Just ask LeBron James.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think John Wall

is showing quite a bit of deference to the concept of “team” considering how young and talented he is. That is part of the reason I am so high on him. I don’t know if you have noticed, but the entire team is better when he is on the court. The entire team.

And I actually have seen plenty of mentions about the team outside of Wall. It is mostly of the “Just move on folks, nothing to see here… keep it moving” variety.

Without John Wall, Coach Cal would not have to make up stories about being 4-5 or 5-4.

And we wouldn’t have to worry about all of this media attention. For us, it would just be back to alternately complaining about Mark, John and Jerry…. while the rest of the basketball world went on its merry way talking about Kansas— or some other currently irrelevant team. :-)

by Sonic on Dec 10, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree ...

… that Wall is reasonably willing to share the spotlight so far, and I hope he will get better at it. But he is not nearly good enough yet at getting his teammates involved (no, I have not forgotten he is just a frosh) and the press clippings won’t help. Therein lies the root of my consternation. I have seen many a player develop elephantitis of the cranium in similar scenarios, to the ruin of all.

I guess I must have missed all those team related articles amidst the fusillade of “John Wall is LeBron/Durant/Kidd-only-better” articles. They are a distraction in the current quantity, and I hope they diminish soon for his own good, but I expect my hopes are likely in vain.

I am fine with the media attention – in fact, I’m glad to see its return. I just wish we would see less focus on one player, and more on the overall team effort. I know that every team needs a star, and I’m happy to have Wall in that role. But some of the hype is just risible.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 6:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah ,the elephantitis of the cranium

worries me, too. That’s a hell of a burden to put on a nineteen year old. He IS 19 years old. Two words, Antoine Walker —he left early.

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by cincyblue on Dec 11, 2009 7:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Elephantitis of the Cranium
… that Wall is reasonably willing to share the spotlight so far

“Reasonably” willing? … “So far”?

Watching the UConn game I felt at times that Wall is too willing, actually resulting in quite a few “empty trips”, if you ask me.

Answer me this:

1. Is Patterson better when Wall is on the court, or off?
2. Is Cousins better when Wall is on the court, or off?
3. Is Bledsoe better when Wall is on the court, or off?
4. Is Miller better when Wall is on the court, or off?

5. Is the team better when Wall is on the court, or off?

by Sonic on Dec 11, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Just keep in mind ...

… that what we have seen so far isn’t necessarily what we will see later. As to who is better when, that’s an analysis, not a subjective viewpoint. I have seen times when the offense ran better with Wall on the bench, but not many, but again, that requires a bit of analysis. Things in basketball aren’t always what they seem.

Part of that is due to the attention Wall draws, but he has to be careful. We have had many close games against inferior teams with Wall on the court as well, so that tells you something also. Right now, Wall is progressing along very well, but he is starting to show a lack of trust in his teammate’s abilities, and that will lead us to a bad place. We’ve just seen hints of it so far, but it is there, make no mistake. That is a big reason why Wall had so many turnovers in the last game.

And for Kentucky to succeed, it has to be reduced as low as possible. I’m not being hard on Wall, I just will not drink the Kool-Aid. Basketball to me is more than just a game, it is an art form, and right now, Wall needs to remember that he is just one color in the picture.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you, Tru

that is an analysis.

And that is what I was asking for. An actual analysis. Like all of the other really cool graphs and spreadsheets you put up. You honestly do a great job with you analysis, and that is what I am asking for.

Wall is progressing along very well, but he is starting to show a lack of trust in his teammate’s abilities, and that will lead us to a bad place. We’ve just seen hints of it so far, but it is there, make no mistake.

Alright, start naming them. To me, “showing a lack of trust in his teammate’s abilities” means taking bad shots when there is an open man to pass the ball to.

It does NOT mean running an isolation play when your coach has flat out told you to MAKE PLAYS down the stretch.

That is absolutely not the same thing.

….he is starting to show a lack of trust in his teammate’s abilities, and that will lead us to a bad place

And I will make this prediction: if UK ends up in a “bad place” this season it will not be because of our #1 NBA Draft pick.

Basketball to me is more than just a game, it is an art form, and right now, Wall needs to remember that he is just one color in the picture.

I think Wall understands that just fine. Show me the actual analysis that suggests otherwise.

by Sonic on Dec 11, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Not Any "Artistic" Teams Now
Basketball to me is more than just a game, it is an art form, and right now …

Thanks to justin.tv, SlingBox, et al, I’ve watched a few dozen games to date and I can’t think of one that featured a work of art and if there was one it was more Willem de Koonig rather than Rijn van Rembrandt — unrecognizable as art from this layman’s perspective. Point is, at this early, less than 10 games, time in the season all teams are a work in progress — especially so with a new coach and a 50% new roster. Continuing the art metaphor but the performing rather than that of color on canvas, John Wall certainly approaches artistic more than any other cast member.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Dec 11, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They are going

to hype somebody, might as well be Wall. In the end this plays to our favor. Everybody thinks stop Wall and we win. As the other players develop, they will become more of a factor. And nobody will stop Wall. The distraction with stopping Wall creates opportunity and with experience we will capitalize on it more and more.

by kywineman on Dec 11, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

"Have To" Vs "Get To"
Now, we will have to listen to endless stories about Wall

As if the stories involving John Wall was some pain or punishment we UK fans have to endure, well, for me and my house I’m quite gratified to be able to hear and read the stories. How much better than the virtual indifference of the last few years.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see it as pain.

I see it as overdone, overcooked, burnt to a crisp. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

but remember we UKrazies have to watch it “every day”. For the national arena, coverage of Wall will do much more good for the program than bad. It won’t turn into Tebow-worship. Too little time for a one-and done to become an irritant.

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by cincyblue on Dec 11, 2009 6:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, remember, we read every article

sometimes every article more than once!
I guarantee you that the majority of the people who will watch the National Championship Game next April don’t even know who John Wall is right now.

by Gobe Igbloo on Dec 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

December Final Four

A UConn blogger’s point of view. WARNING: You’re going to have to endure some more John Wall hype.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Dec 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

What a fantastic read !

Thanks for sharing that…. and like that blogger would agree:

 It’s not hype if it’s The Truth.

by Sonic on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think that's hype.

That was just a good, first-hand description. I’m fine with that. I’m fine with bloggers, even, hyping Wall. That’s what fans do, and they have a right to do that.

My complaint is more with the media than with bloggers, really. But it was a great find, WW, and a very good article.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

the author of the article

(at least I think it was) posted that piece to the fanshots early yesterday and yes, I thought is was really good, too.

by BigSkyCat on Dec 11, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Wall = Tebow

The national media, lead by ESPN, will talk constantly about Wall the way they have Tebow. The good news, sort of, is Wall is only going to be around 1 year instead of 4 years so not as much resentment by non-UK fans will get created. The results of the media over-exposure are too bad. Tebow seems like a credit to his school, team, family and the game, but every non-Florida fan has a natural gag reflex when they hear his name. It isn’t Tebow’s fault – it is the media over exposure.

This is going to now happen with Wall. UK fans will just have to learn to embace this overexposure like Florida fans have.

That said, I hope Wall never cries after a loss (if we ever lose with him here:).

by JackBluto on Dec 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

The Florida fans have

relished in the Tebow hype. I live in the heart of Gator country and I let everybody know one of the things I was giving thanks for was that Tebow was finally leaving.

by Grasslands1 on Dec 11, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

All too true, I fear. Well, it’s great to have him for the year, I just hope the balance of the equities is positive. So far, it has been – in spades. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, is john wall white now?

by chstrckwl on Dec 11, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

can you imagine if

he WAS white? Geez, the droolfest would be unbelievable.

by blue kentucky girl on Dec 11, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

The good thing about John Wall's notoriety

is that his name and Kentucky’s name are synonymous. Every picture of him has that beautiful jersey on.

And it would be easy to talk about the team if they weren’t quite as bad without him. Don’t remember the story in the flurry that I read today, but Kentucky with John Wall was +10 in points, Kentucky without John Wall was -7. Without John Wall we lose this game and a couple of others.

He scored the 12 of our last 15, he deserves every accolade and clipping he gets. When the team no longer NEEDS John Wall and they are still only talking about him, then I will stand by you, but for now, it’s the John Wall Show and we’re all watching.

by aidanpryde18 on Dec 10, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

I wish that were true.

Trust me, it isn’t. Wall wears a Kentucky uniform, so Kentucky gets mentioned a lot, and no writer worth his salt can overlook the tradition here.

But most writers just can’t wait for something to go wrong at Kentucky, and 100% of them are positive it will, and soon. That is a fact, and it is easy to see in Mariotti’s piece that WW linked somewhere, and even in the normally-respectable Eamonn Brennan’s piece I read the other day, and it was an undercurrent in Dana O’Neal’s article the other day as well (I’m too lazy right now to link them, I just woke up). The overarching theme behind all this hype is, “It’s a pity such a good player has to play for such a dirty coach and dirty school.”

Wall and Calipari are linked, but Kentucky is just a bunch of psychotic whackos who would ink a deal with Satan for a winning team, according to these guys. Just wait. You’ll see.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, Kelly to ND

Relief, I was afraid they’d go after Cal. :)

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by cincyblue on Dec 11, 2009 6:58 AM EST reply actions  

Haha!

Good one.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Good charting

I think it was almost inevitable that John Wall at this stage in his career, at MSG, matching up against Kemba Walker and playing UConn was going too stoked up and would try to do it all. His assists were way down and for the most part the rest of our guys were left out of the offense. Other than the outcome, I didn’t particularly like it and I’m sure Cal didn’t like it either and will work on reigning in John Wall just a little bit.

by chicagoblues on Dec 11, 2009 7:13 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I think that's right.

It’s all he can do, really. The kid is young, and the impact of all this on a guy his age is predictable. I just hope Cal can keep his head from growing too large to pull his jersey over. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 7:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah.

It’s one thing to embrace hate, but we have to avoid embracing the hype.

We should enjoy it a little like the guilty pleasure it is, but just like too many sweets, too much alcohol or too many fine cigars, it can kill you.

Temperance is always best. But a little indulgence is okay. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Come Saturday anyone can find me in my recliner

with a couple of Havana Honeys, a bottle of Makers Mark, and a plate of no bake cookies enjoying watching the Cats disassemble the Hoosiers……I am thinking of making it a ritual for every game…..lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 11, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Wall

I, for one, never get tired of seeing, hearing, or reading about John Wall. He is the real deal. Without Wall, we are not 9-0.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 11, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

i agree

I actually kind of love it. It’s just a fact that the media is like this…a hype machine that jumps on the bandwagon of one or two names/stories and beats them to death…this is just a fact. Thank/blame ESPN, but that’s the way it is. We as Kentucky fans have heard this hype machine go on and on about countless nonUK players, coaches and teams (Florida, Tyler Hansborough are a couple of recent examples, Duke is pretty much a constant). It’s now turned into overdrive…but it’s on one of our own players! We can’t change the media by bemoaning it to be more fair and reasonable. So I am for one am just going to enjoy the hell out out of one of our own being the focus of it. Bring on the Wall hype!!!

by blue kentucky girl on Dec 11, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, No, More Wall Hype

And from Mr. Positive himself, Jerry Tipton.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Back from my self-imposed sabbatical and I find that

we are already becoming “concerned” with the John Wall Story?? Are we not the same group of Big Blue Fanatics who mere months ago were worried that our beloved program was about to slip from the annals of history as THE premier program in the country and become another also-ran of the SEC? a few facts from the “WALL of Fame” may be in order here……

1) This kid is the most exciting player we have seen here at Kentucky in more than just a few years. I might even venture to say he is THE most exciting player we have ever had here. ( my deferences to King Rex who as a freshman lit up the nights like the 4th of July at Rupp, but he was a outside specialist much more than an all-around guard)
2) This young man i the space of a nine game stretch is directly responsible for winning at least 4 of those games. Not alone mind you, but he is directly responsible for those outcomes.Without John Wall we are 6-3 at best at this point and struggling to stay inside the top 25.
3) He is making the players around him much MUCH better. No way is Patrick Patterson doing this well in the DDMO without John Wall. He makes them better by relieving the pressure from them to be the star. He loves the role and relishes the pressure that comes with it. And Coach Calipari has thrust it upon him just to see what happens. He passes (and shoots) with flying colors.
4) He is a freshman so the mistakes will occur, but as we have all said, we were warned that this would be the case. I much more prefer to be winning as we learn, instead of losing and gaining “character” ( this is a term used by coaches so that they dont have to explain the fact that the negatives far outweigh the positives in a loss)
5) We were once concerned that the mythical 2000th win was beyond our grasp and had been handed to those powder blue garbed pretenders from the east. he has smashed that concept and simply rendered it a moot point.
6) He has helped restore “balance” to the world of UK basketball. Last year we were a one-dimensional out-of-focus group of pretenders to the throne. This year we will not only score on you, we will drag our feet just enough to add insult to injury by letting you foul us as we make our layups.
7) He makes the game fun. He has restored the “wow” factor to UK. He makes Rajon Rondo look like a blip on the radar screen of UK. I could see Rajon being an excellent pro the first time he stepped on a court in college. But he is no where near the well rounded player that John Wall is.
8) Wall is doing it the “right” way. He does not linger on his own accomplishments, he goes to class, he gets good grades, and he learns every time he is out there on the court from his own mistakes. You may get over on him once, but not twice. He is like a sponge, soaking up everything that happens, and like a computer he records it for future reference. He knows we will see some of these teams again.
9) We asked for this kid. We BEGGED him to come. We need to embrace everything that he is, because I want the NEXT John Wall to not even hesitate when it comes time to make his decision. There are 30-40 coaches out there in college basketball right now pulling their hair out to try and figure out a way to defend UK right now just in case they see us later. That is respect my friends, and fear. They fear us once again, and John Wall may be the single biggest reason for that. We have other players who deserve equal time yes. Pattrick Patterson is the kid we all not only want to be, we want our daughters to date him and we want our sons to emulate him. Demarcus Cousins may well be that meanest man to play in the paint since Bill Laimbeer, and he is learning exponentially every game. Eric Bledsoe is going to be a fine point guard in his own right. they are all parts of a very fine machine.
10) John Wall is a once in a lifetime type of player in this sport. I for one am overwhelmed that he chooses to be at UK. If the press clippings fill up a bathtub by the time he leaves here, then so be it. It is a price I am willing to pay. I dont see the kid getting a swelled head while Calipari is at the helm. He already let the kid play himself in and out of a hole this season. Calipari figured out what the rest of us need to learn. The kid has a overwhelming will to win. He will lose, yes. And it is going to hurt when it happens, but lest we forget, ALL losses hurt. And we have seen enough of them the last few years to sink a battleship.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 11, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Right on

Actually the only loss that would hurt at this point forward will be against Loserville. I want him humiliated beyond all sense of reason at this point. That is the only game left this season that I consider a must one and if we don’t do it then the season is toast.
Wall is amazing and we just need to embrace it. I commented to someone yesterday that I think all of his hype is great for our program’s future. The top tier kids want exposure and I believe this is demonstrating that you commit and come to UK and deliver, the sky is the limit as far as accolades and exposure. It even has Duke apologists (Vitale) gushing about Wall and UK basketball. I bet Krycrapski is flipping out on Vitale for turning on them for even one broadcast. I don’t even think Dicky V mentioned Duke Wednesday night. What an accomplishment that is. If he did, I don’t remember it.

by WCATFAN666 on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Bravo, ABC !

Every single word.

by Sonic on Dec 11, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Blech.

Not drinking this Kool-Aid, ABC.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 11, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

drink....dont drink....it's your choice.....

just dont blame me if you dont feel the buzz….lol….It’s inevitable that you join us Tru….you know it…we know it…..it will seep into your pores….you will start seeing blue fingertips and toes….then you get that warm fuzzy feeling like you are timgling all over….then your face turns blue and you start chanting from the rafters…..Embrace The Hate…..Envy our Past…..Fear our Future…..and The Future Is Now……and his name is John Wall…..I am thinking we should put a plaque on the wall like in Top Gun…….just fill in the name each year of the guy that is next……oooh….I hear Kenny Loggins in the background now………. ;-)

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by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 11, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now ...

… I just want to see better basketball. Out of Wall, out of Patterson, out of the whole team.

What I see right now is not what I want to watch all year, and I’m confident it won’t be. But I still see too much ball-hogging and not looking for teammates.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 12, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

EXCELLENT POST

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks tink.....

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by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 11, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Give the kid a break

What I’ve seen in Wall so far is a great ballplayer who always has a smile on his face (except while cramping in the NC game), who involves his teammates when he needs to but is willing to take the risk when the game is on the line, and who is a great ambassador for our great program. Yes I used the word great three times in one sentence, but we are talking about Kentucky basketball. If he turns into Rajon Rondo and worries about his own stats and the hell with the team, then I’ll be worried. I just don’t see that happening. I have been a Cat fan for 58 years and have always been proud, sometimes frustated, but always proud. When you live in another state like I do, you realize just how much respect people have for Kentucky basketball.

by UKCat on Dec 11, 2009 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

Wall can also be used as a recruiting tool!

How many young basketball hopefuls with stars in their eyes are pretending to be John Wall on the court and dreaming of the day when they, too, might be able to play where he went to school.

Kentucky will always be Kentucky. John Wall and all of his glory and greatness can never take that away from us. Point being, however, that I dont think he would ever WANT to take that away from us. Wall wants to be part of the greatness that IS Kentucky. I firmly believe that. It was the end of the Stanford game (I think) when the buzzer went off and the team began jumping around in celebration, it was John Wall pulling at the word “Kentucky” written across his chest.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 11, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

That was

a great moment. He did not turn his back to the camera and point at the name Wall on the back of his jersey.

by kywineman on Dec 11, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Wall knows where he is and what its all about. He may be a one-and-done, but I dont believe for a second that he believes himself to be bigger than our program. He is SO resepectful when interviewed – I just dont see him as this swelled head primadonna.

John Wall is having the time of his life here. It is obvious with the huge smile that remains plastered across his face WAY more often than not. I believe that when he is gone he will always look back and love the time that he spent at Kentucky. We should all do the same. :)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, kygirl!

To me, he seems very respectful… especially considering that he probably doesn’t have to be given his national reputation. But remember, he had a huge reputation before he even came here. However much it has intensified, it is not something that has come up in just the last couple of weeks.

And that is one of the reasons that I feel he will continue to show respect.

And one of the reasons that I can’t understand some people making assumptions to the contrary.

(A) Wall Showing Respect = Already Happening
(B) Wall NOT Showing Respect = Assumptions (based on…????)

Why in the world would any UK fans be leaning towards “B” …? What is the gain?

by Sonic on Dec 11, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Just look at the games.

Even Calipari has been saying that Wall has not been sharing the ball well. You just aren’t listening, but I’ll bet Wall is.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 12, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

My ABSOLUTE FAVORITE Play of the UConn Game

This was absolutely awesome!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9t0nzbI9AU

P.S. That Bledsoe kid is pretty good, too! ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 11, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

my favorite part of that

bledsoe and wall took the ball from a step inside the FT line to the other basket and took just two dribbles!

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 12, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't get it

So what you are saying is that you don’t want Wall to be a Wildcat. Why would you think that? First of all, let’s put this in perspective. John Wall is not responsible for the hype about John Wall. That is ESPN, CBS, Rivals, etc all of their collective fault for this hype. All this kid is doing is going out and performing (at an amazing level let’s not forget). I have never once seen him boast, mug or anything like that. If anything that UConn player Walker from New York did much more of that type of stuff in the game. I think this kid is a credit to the program and we should be thankful that he chose to come here for however long he decides to be here. If Patterson was having a problem with him, then that might be another story, but these kids all seem to genuinely like each other and get along and I think are starting to gel as a team.. Bledsoe’s lob to Wall in the first half on Wednesday was amazing. I don’t know about everyone else, but was sick to the point of giving up with seeing all of the hype about Tyler Hansborough and Jay Williams of Duke being singled out as the greatest players of the decade in college ball. It is not Wall that is making it all about Wall, the media is doing it. Tipton, Clay and Story writing stories like UK leans on Wall, Blah blah blah hit the Wall, whateve. Again, Wall isn’t doing it, he only as ABC pointed out is only directly responsible for 4 out 8 (remember he didn’t play in one) of our 9 victories. He played a large role in the other 4. I don’t know how anyone could hold that against him personally. We definitely don’t want to start turning on our own. Just be happy and ride the wave and see where it takes us.

by WCATFAN666 on Dec 11, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

That's not what I said at all.

What I said was that we are seeing a lot of hype for Wall, but Wall is not playing the kind of team basketball UK needs to win. All you have to look at to get an idea of what the problem is are his assists and turnovers.

In all but three games this year, he has turned the ball over at least as many times as he has had assists. In the UConn game, he had only two assists. That’s because he is not getting his teammates involved enough, and trying to do too much himself.

What we need from Wall is for him to get the ball to his teammates more. Even Calipari has said this, without pointing out Wall. We just have to learn how to listen.

I refuse to “Be happy and enjoy the ride.” Basketball means more to me than just a time-waster on Saturday. That’s why I spend so much time working on this site – because basketball is not just a team with John Wall or LeBron James or Kevin Durant on them. LeBron has not been enough to get the Cavaliers a championship. Durant was not enough to get Texas a championship. And Wall will not be enough to get UK one.

But he can lead this team to a championship, if he will share the ball and start defending better. He always seems to do one or the other, but not both, and I was not happy with what he did last game, even though he took over the game at the end. That will not work against Kansas, nor Texas, nor even UNC or UConn later in the year.

We need Wall to spend more energy on getting the ball into scoring position, and playing good defense. Trust me, that’s exactly what Calipari wants as well.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 12, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

always hard to dismiss out of hand the thoughtful wisdom from Tru

(sincerely I say that)
But in this case, Tru, are you just “searching for a problem where there is none?”
Are you suffering from “if it seems too good to be true, it probably is” or
“there are no free lunches?”

Actually, I think there are good points made by all in this thread. But when you put it all together, our ball team is in a very good place right now. I want coach to make sure that Kentucky basketball remains a team sport. But I’m not very concerned about “too much attention from the sports media.” Not yet, anyway.

If Duke, Carolina, Kansas, and Michigan State fans start seeing Coach Cal on every Pepsi-Cola & Verizon Wireless ad throughout the NCAA Tournament Coverage, and seeing Big Cuz dunking on somebody then Kentucky cheerleaders at every cut to time-out during ESPN coverage of Big Ten games, and hear Dick Vitale gushing about John Wall 15 times during game play of the ACC tournament championship, and showing Jeanine Edwards interviewing Rajon Rondo in the stands to talk about John Wall with 1:38 to go after a technical foul in a tied-up Duke-Michigan St Elite Eight matchup, then I’ll know we are approaching dangerous 2000’s-era Duke-level saturation.

by Gobe Igbloo on Dec 11, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

well said...

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Dec 11, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

OH Myyyyyyyy......I think I might have to start enjoying that......lol

That’s exactly what we paid this guy so much for….to bring to Kentucky what the rest of college basketball was taking away from us…….I would love to see it…..

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Dec 11, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

To answer your question, I don't think so.

Just take a look at Wall’s stats – at least as many turnovers as assists in all but three games, and one of those was close. That’s a problem, and it isn’t Wall’s ballhandling or trying to get it into the hands of other players. It is trying to make too many one-on-one offensive moves. That may be what most people thing the DDM encourages, but it doesn’t.

The most important part of the DDM is decision-making, and right now, Wall is deciding that he is the best option too many times. That has to stop. If it continues, this team will suffer the fate of Texas with Durant. Players will start watching Wall, and wondering why they don’t get in on plays.

Calapari knows this. If this trend continues, expect for he and Wall to start butting heads. This team cannot win consistently the way it is playing right now. Read the stats. Watch the games closely. Think about where we have seen this before. Hint – Rajon Rondo was involved.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 12, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

I guess we should just cut him off the team then. I guess we can’t consider that he is just a freshman and has been practicing at a college program for a little under 2 months an has only played in 8 real games. I had really though that you were more sensible than that. Its posts like this that turn people off of UK fans and UK basketball. I am a nut, but I cannot do any criticisms at this point. If you are this bummed out when they are winning, I think they are going to have to hide sharp things at your house when they finally lose.

by WCATFAN666 on Dec 12, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Well, I’ve been around this blog since it’s inception in March of 2006. I was a commenter on Bogans’ Heroes, the predecessor to A Sea of Blue. JL turned it over to me in May of 2007.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 12, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Well ...

… my main point here is that basketball is a team sport, and Wall did not play good team basketball several times this year. Yes, I realize he is a freshman, but when he is getting player of the year hype, he really should be worthy of it.

Up until this game, in my opinion, he was not. I will ignore the rest of your commentary as the irrelevance that it is. You evidently haven’t been here long or you would not say that.

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