The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Cardinal-Stomping Edition
There has been much Sturm und Drang over a couple of UK players, including Patrick Patterson, coming down hard (stomping?) on the Cardinal logo at center court in Freedom Hall in the open practice the other day. Naturally, some Louisville fans are incensed.
Well, I have seen UK recruits and U of L recruits do various things to the team logos in the Derby Festival Classic game, and little is said. Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing and if the Louisville fans want to refer to the UK team as "thugs" or blame it on Calipari's lack of discipline, I say go for it. After all, it would be a shame if all that pent-up frustration caused some random UK hater to rob a convenience store at Uzi-point, or something equally unfortunate.
We're really sorry you're upset, though. We thought it was all in good fun, and it's hard to say there was any harm done -- that Cardinal bird gets stomped on, run over and sweated on quite a bit during the season, so I'm pretty sure it was indifferent to the insult.
For the record, I invite fans of all opponents, especially Louisville fans, to come to Rupp Arena and stomp on our logo. Wildcat fans are all about letting you vent your frustrations at the inevitable loss you will be suffering at our hands, and we really don't want any more psychotic fan behavior than absolutely necessary in the sports world.
So if stomping on our logo makes you feel good, you have my blessing so long as you are wearing the appropriate footwear. If it will help relieve the stress of your defeat, or allow you to puff your chests out for a short while, we're happy to oblige. We here at Kentucky are communitarians, after all. You can consider it our contribution to overall fan mental health, if you like.
The only retribution we will exact is on the court, where you will lose.
News after the jump.
- TaxProf Blog: How the Tax Law Fuels the College Sports Arms Race
Interesting look at how the current tax code for colleges fuels the college sports "arms race," and what could be done about it. - [SLIDESHOW] Cousins, Wall put on show, pummel Bulldogs 94-57 | The Kentucky Kernel
“We had eight turnovers which isn’t enough,” Calipari said. “We have to have at least 11 or 12. If you have eight turnovers it means you’re not being aggressive enough. They laughed when I said that in there.”
Well. Now there is a statement I never expected to hear from a coach. I'm sorry, but I have a little trouble with getting my mind around the idea that four more turnovers would have been better. The 'Cats looked "aggressive enough" to me. - Wall-to-Wall Action for Kentucky Wildcats at Freedom Hall
Some interesting notes in here. - Cats roll up big numbers in flogging of UNC Asheville | KentuckySports.com
Yet even with a proven hot hand, Miller turned down enough open shots to get a rebuke from Calipari easily heard around Freedom Hall. "Hey, Darius, shoot the ball!" the UK coach yelled.
Now this, I agree with. - Cats put on a show at Freedom Hall | KentuckySports.com
When re-living the moment with reporters afterward, Patterson shrugged at the suggestion that U of L's program might take offense.
"If it does, it does," Patterson said. "If it doesn't, it doesn't. That's entirely on them."
This tempest in a teapot is hilarious. I encourage any UK foe to come stomp on the UK logo at center court in Rupp Arena any time you feel like it. Help yourself. I won't be mad - I promise. You wanna burn a UK flag at home? Go ahead, as long as you aren't violating any ordinances.
Just be prepared to bring it on the court. That's all we ask. Because UK basketball is about winning games, and symbolic loathing is meaningless. - courier-journal.com | Chris Diggs - UK Fan | The Courier-Journal
Kentucky's lines were absolutely dominated on both sides of the ball the whole second half. Tennessee worked at will. They opened up holes for Montario Hardesty, who rushed for 188 yards and three touchdowns, including the game winning scamper in overtime and gave Jonathan Crompton time needed to make crucial throws downfield to keep drives alive.
This right here, folks, is what beat us on Saturday. Not bad calls. Not fumbles. Not bad plays. The team that wins 90% of the games in the SEC is the team that wins the battle in the trenches. UK was dominated, and they lost. - Kragthorpe takes high road out of town - Big East Blog - ESPN
- Cats headed back to Music City?
“Hopefully a nationally-known program like Miami or North Carolina would bring some excitement,” Ramsey said. “We feel like that’s a pretty good fit that would get the fans interested. And with it being unopposed in prime time, that would be a great platform.”
Fair points. I know UK fans want a warmer bowl, but this is called, "paying your dues." - Who's next in line at Notre Dame? - ESPN
- UK coaches should be glad they're not at Bama | KentuckySports.com
Poll every member of the college football coaches' association. Would even one say coaching football at Kentucky is better than working at Alabama? Well, for reasons I'll explain, this week it is.
“For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'.” -- John Greenleaf Whittier - UK notes: Freedom Hall wasn't filled, much to Cal's dismay | KentuckySports.com
The UK coach noted that the game would have drawn 24,000 if played in Rupp Arena. Administrators can cite the greater revenue possible by playing in Rupp, thus making it more difficult to sell the idea of playing "home" games anywhere else.
Nonsense. This team was by far the weakest team on the schedule to date, and it would not have drawn 24K at rupp. More like 22,500.
You want to sell out freedom hall? Play a BCS school there, even a weak one. Also, try to keep in mind that major road construction in the Louisville area this year makes it really hard to get to and from Freedom Hall right now. That, and the poor quality of the opponent kept a lot of folks at home. - UK women are undefeated with defense | KentuckySports.com
This story isn't getting enough attention. The UK women are good this year. Real good. - When In Doubt, Accuse Tennessee of Cheating « Over The Pylon
Absolutely great column that makes some very convincing points (aside from the allegations of cheating):
1. Being upset with your team when they are 7-5 beats the heck out of being upset that they didn't win six games;
2. Being upset with a team that has had four winning seasons in a row beats the heck out of getting excited about the one or two winning seasons per decade, as in times past. - UK Football Fan: Bowl News Update
Interesting. Is Shreveport better than Tennessee? Well, it's certainly warmer, but it's a lot farther. - Intentional Foul » Kids Love Stomping on the Louisville Cardinals Logo
This is funny. And no way is the Freedom Hall game going to be "put on hold" for any length of time. More likely, they will add games in Louisville.
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Glad to see you give props to the women's team
I must admit that I don’t pay as much attention to the team as I should. Every game of theirs that I have attended as been a lot of fun and lest we forget, they are Wildcats.
There is an easy way to settle this logo problem.......
HAVE IT REMOVED…….it aint their hall anymore……they went and built a shiny new one down the road……and I will donate money to help pay for it……I had a few takers the other day on here as well……make Freedom Hall’s colors Red,White, and Blue. It IS FREEDOM Hall…….
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
I also want to start the proceedings right here and now to
get Notre Dame to hire Steve Spurrier…..he is the perfect guy for them and they need him….and we dont, so we need to give him to them immediately or sooner, whichever comes first…….lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
In all fairness,
the guys at Card Chronicle didn’t call UK players “thugs”. They said that UK fans would pull the “thug” card if anyone dare stomp on the Wildcat logo. And they’re right, a lot of them would. Not you obviously, Tru.
And your “go ahead, stomp on our logo” bravado is quite entertaining, but you describe a different scenario than what actually took place. Stomping a logo before a game in front of a hostile road crowd is a lot different than doing so at a practice in front of your own fans. With the former, you put yourself in a position to put up or shut up. With the latter, it’s just empty posturing.
In my opinion, Louisville basketball has paid the bills at Freedom Hall for a long damn time, and it’s an insult to even have Kentucky play there, let alone trampling the Cardinal or pretending to use it as a toilet. Hopefully, this little display means the UK players and coaching staff are joining UK fans in assuming victory on January 2. I encourage all of you to continue counting your chickens before they hatch.
Ok, trying to think of something nice to say…I’m sorry your football team lost to UT. I was hoping they’d end the streak.
by don'tshootmei'macard on Dec 1, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions
I wish all UK fans were that eloquent.
Well said. I dont necessarily agree with it all but at least it was well thought out.
Well, I didn't say they did.
I just linked it that way. I know perfectly well that CC didn’t call anybody a thug.
As far as I am concerned, stomping logos is a nonesuch. It’s beneath any rational fan’s notice at any time. I only mention it because some Card fans evidently made a big deal out of it.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
As someone who graduated from
UofL and has lived in Louisville all my adult life, let me spend a sec laughing at your post….ha ha. Ok, done laughing!!
The stomping thing was brought up because the Bozick and company realize that bringing up any kind of controversy between UofL and UK SELLS newspapers or gets hits on their website. If UofL’s players need something this trivial to get fired up for this game, well that’s kinda sad.
Stomping a logo before a hostile crowd and kids goofing off before practice ARE different things. Do you really believe that 18-19 year old kids think about “posturing”? Coach C quickly put an end to the silliness. Can you tell us right now that NO UofL player will stomp on the Rupp center circle when they practice before this years game?
UofL has never paid a penny on the rent at Freedom Hall…..I believe we Kentucky tax payers…..both UofL and UK and probably even a few Western fans do that. Freedom Hall doesn’t belong to UofL which is why UK plays there anytime they want. In the history of Freedom Hall, UK has probably played as many big games there as UofL has.
When I attended UofL in the mid to late 70’s, you could walk into any game UofL was playing with your student ID…..ANY game. Now obviously that changed as Denny became successful but the tradition of UK playing at least one game a year there goes back way beyond Denny and Ricky P. BTW…..you could also wear a UK shirt to class every day and no one would say boo to you.
Finally, UK has no claim on Rupp either but let’s see UofL draw 15,000+ fans at Rupp playing UNC Ashville!!
P.S. thanks for the sympathy regarding the UT game and good lucky finding a replacment for Kraigthorpe
Let me clarify
Louisville paying rent. What I meant was they actually pay “rent” just like a concert promoter would or UK does when they “use” the facility. What I should have said is that UofL has never paid a penny toward the initial building expense, upkeep or remodeling of Freedom Hall.
Thugs
To tell you the truth I welcome UK players being called “thugs” even if it didn’t happen in this case. I got tired of teams,like Florida,calling UK the “mildcats” instead of “wildcats”. With that being said,I don’t think any UK player needs to add any bulletin board material or fuel to what will be a whitehot fire. That game will be a war and it will be close. Very close.
watchin UNC and MI st
heck of a game…..saturday will be tuff…wonder if coach cal is watchin….lol
Cuz...impressed with UNC yet? I realize that the Gators beat the Spartans but...
UNC dominated most of this game. The Cats will need to be better 3 point defenders than in earlier games, Boogie must be smart and stay under control. It will be interesting to see how we measure up.
Here is the problem with Truzenzuluhuzenex
He postures like his sight is so level headed, and most of the time it is. However, when he is off base, he is so off base that he threatens that level headed reputation. The logical construct of his invitation is so extraordinarily queer and befuddling that I need more of an explanation to understand it.
Hey Louisville fans:
Because our pre-season All American player (who has never won an NCAA tournament game, beat the University of Louisville in a basketball contest, or been able to stay healthy for a full season) uncharacteristically stomped on the logo of the court (apparently to vent his frustration from the first two years of his college career), all of you (fans, not players) should feel more than welcome to accept Truzenzuluzerex’s invitation and stomp on the logo at Rupp Arena to vent your frustration. ???
Well done Tru. Well done.
Thank you.
I think your comment illustrates perfectly the kind of humorless derangement my proposal is designed to ameliorate.
So come stomp our logo, poor, tortured soul. It will make you feel better … for a while. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Your invitation is empty...
Because you know as well as anyone that anyone who lives in Louisville is perfectly happy staying 80 miles away from the pseudo-city that is Lexington, Ky, Anywhere USA.
I'd Bet There's At Least ONE Louisvillian Who Might Want To De-Sypher A Path To Lexington
Maybe even more than one.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 1, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Gosh
the games a month away and we’re already sparring….I LOVE it!!! Couldn’t do much of that the last 2 years!!! As a Louisville native and a UofL gaduate…..gotta say Lexington is a very nice city.
Anyway…..just wanted to point out that ANY store that sells UofL apparel in Louisville also sells UK apparel and most retailers will tell you that they sell more UK apparel. Apparently there are at least 50% of Louisville that don’t mind visiting Lexington at all….I was there today myself!:-)
Well ...
… just so you know, your comment would have to include me, since I live in J-town.
So methinks you paint with too broad a brush. :-)
And what of the 15+K who went to see the game Monday night?
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Hmmmmm......
Are you related to that awe inspiring, level headed, rational superhero named – Hozeking? ’-)
Yeah, Hobo,
I’ve got my own suspicions in that regard. We’ve not seen the Hozer lately, but his alter ego showed up about the time he disappeared, carrying the same messages.
No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!
Tru
Stats don’t win football games, teams do. Geogia beat us on most of the stats, but we won. Tennessee did the same and we lost. Despite all of the stats we had four shots at scoring at the end of regulation and a touchdown would have put us in good position to win that game. Poor selection of plays at the end were a factor. We could have won the stat war and lost anyway. All that matters is that when the game is on the line good decisions are made by both the players and the coaches. If the cats are down by 2 with under a minute to play in a basketball game, will Calipari sit John Wall down? I think not.
Perhaps.
At the end of the day, though, the coaches know the condition of their players better than we do. The word is that Cobb was out of gas at the time. True? I don’t know. Would it have mattered? I don’t know. We will never know.
I do know that Cobb is playing way too many snaps.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
"playing way too many snaps"
agree – and unfortunately, the alternative is to rest him as we move down the field so that he is fresh at the goal line – however, there in lies the problem – if we rest him we do not move down the field.
we are more talented than we have been in the past – just have to keep on stocking up on talent – in other words we have good options, we just need more of them..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Dec 2, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
UNC
I have long since forgotten the logo stomping incident, and I’m starting to get very worried about Saturday. I would dread facing Michigan State right now, let alone the Tar Heels.
I think we'll be fine.
The Tar Heels will be tough, but I think we’ll be ready for them.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
that's encouraging
I seem to be the only one worried. I may look very wise come Saturday, but I hope not.
By the way, I’m a long-time reader of your work and enjoy visiting this site regularly.
Thanks for what you do.
Being very worried
about the UNC game sort of implies you are expecting this young team to win every game. Ain’t gonna happen! A loss to a good team at this time of the year is nothing to have anxiety attacks about. Getting blown out and humbled would not be good but last year about this time UNC whipped Mich. St. and they met again in the championship game. Enjoy the journey as this team grows and realize that they may be headed for something great.
Hmm
I’m kind of confused here. You seem to be taking the “we’ll do our talking on the court” stance while inviting opponents to burn your flag and thump their chests, but the problem with that is the only people who are doing anything are your boys.
I love all this for the rivalry, I really do, but I’m also glad that it isn’t our guys who are stirring the pot.
Are we really an entire month away?
by Mike Rutherford on Dec 2, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions
Hi Mike.
Well, I actually could care less about all this stomping stuff, that was my whole point. It was an attempt at humor, as I explained earlier to another Card fan who … well, didn’t get it. Maybe it’s my lousy attempt at humor, who knows?
As far as stirring the pot goes, why not stir it a little? That’s what rivalries are all about, n’est pas? It’s not as if I dragged my genitalia through the pot or something. ;-)
Based on the way UK has played so far, I think I’m happy for the extra month.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I see, I see
Yeah, I was all for the game being played in November before UNLV happened.
Regardless, it’ll be fun….or as fun as uncontrollable excitement, fear, anger and cardiac arrest can be.
by Mike Rutherford on Dec 2, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
Well, let’s be realistic. It isn’t as if both teams don’t think about this game year-round. I think the time frame is kind of meaningless in big rivalries. Otherwise, nobody would care, and some Cardinal fans evidently do.
You are right, though, it will be great fun, for all the reasons you cite. Great for the fans, the schools, everybody, especially this year.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
For funzies...
While I do agree that there is a certain amount of respect that should be shown at another team’s facilities, I would like to share that all the blame can’t be put solely on that of the players who booted the bird. As a UK fan in attendence, it was still enjoyable to watch Wildcat’s mid-game ‘tango’ atop the cardinal, beginning with a little stomping action, followed by de-pantsing and scooting buttocks first backwards, followed oh so gracefully by turning over to all fours and raising a leg in urinating-like stance, all at center-court. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a mascot dance that I enjoyed more.
by BLUE from the TRUE KY U! on Dec 2, 2009 5:35 PM EST reply actions

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