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Kentucky 117, Clarion 52 -- Postmortem

Patrick Patterson was a bit more present this game than versus Campbellsville.

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Patrick Patterson was a bit more present this game than versus Campbellsville.

Thanks to the Clarion Golden Eagles for coming into Rupp Arena and giving a game effort against the Wildcats.  John Calipari's alma mater came in and gave a good account of themselves versus a vastly superior team, and did both the school and our coach proud with their relentless effort.

Examine the score.

Kentucky has played many exhibition games over the years.  The last time Kentucky scored over 110 points was just last year, versus Missouri-St. Louis, 111-53.  Two games later, Kentucky allowed 111 points in a loss to VMI.

I mention this only to focus the mind of the Big Blue Nation.  This victory, and the size of it, is as ephemeral and meaningless as the pixels on your screen.  Well, maybe the pixels mean a bit more.

No matter what, this was a much more impressive game than versus Campbellsville.  The Wildcats played with more skill, more cohesion, and an equivalent level of intensity and determination.  When big guys like DeMarcus Cousins start taking charges, that is motivation and determination.  Kentucky has quite possibly taken more charges in two exhibition games this year than they did in the first four games last year.  Maybe that is a comment on the disparity of the skill level.  Maybe it is a comment on the determination of the team.

My observations follow the jump.

Star-divide

  • John Wall was all that he was supposed to be, particularly defensively.
  • DeMarcus Cousins gets better with every game.  I wonder how long this will continue.
  • Darius Miller did not seem all that great, except when you look at his line -- 11 points, 7 assists, 1 turnover.
  • Speaking of turnovers, they were not a problem versus the Golden Eagles.
  • Patrick Patterson had two beautiful three-point shots.  He could have done a bit more, but 14 points and 6 rebounds is not too bad.
  • Ramon Harris had a strong game, with 11 points and 7 rebounds.
  • Darnell Dodson did not dominate this game, but he did play pretty well.
  • UK shot 50% from 3.  That is way, way better than they need to shoot to be successful.
  • Once again, the 'Cats held their opponent under 30% shooting.  That will win every time.
  • All this with Eric Bledsoe and Daniel Orton on the bench.

This game didn't mean much, overall, but the coaching staff had to love the improved effort and better execution all around.  I must admit, the DDM as currently executed does not look all that different from a regular motion offense, but I also realize that the players have not come anywhere near perfecting the system yet.  The thought that it will only get better and better as familiarity with it grows is ... encouraging, to say the very least.

Defensively, I thought Kentucky was really good tonight.  Yes, they were playing a markedly inferior opponent, but even considering that, the 'Cats did a good job of fearlessly drawing charges and moving their feet.  The effort was there defensively in a game where it didn't have to be for the 'Cats to win.

In the end, this game doesn't tell us much, but it does tell us that the 'Cats have improved over their last effort, which is really the best we could hope out of an exhibition. The score doesn't mean much to me, but the improvement means a lot.

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great game.

a few years ago i saw a message board post that said kentucky was the most boring and frustrating offense to watch. The offense tonight was thrilling to watch and well just fun to watch. They play to score. Wall is exciting to watch. They all are. Still concerned about turnovers. North carolina will turn those into points so we must be careful. Kentucky is finally exciting to watch again. I love it. :-)

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 7, 2009 3:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I think having the two guards together will fix the turnover situation

That and having guys be ready to receive those Wall passes will make it work. And you are right, this is more fun to watch than anything we have seen in a long time.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 7:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sobering fact that this was no better than we did last year vs. UMo-St.Lou.

But in truth, last year’s team wasn’t really all that bad. Cal said in his post game presser that Clarion is a better team than Campbellsville, and implied it was a lot better, so that would translate into this being a much better performance from the Cats than the last game.

I doubt we’ll hear that Bledsoe equals Wall anymore after this performance. Eric may make John better, but against Campbellsville he was a pale shadow of what Wall was tonight on the offensive side of the ball. Darius had a great game, especially handling the ball — 7 to 1 Assist to Turnover ratio.

One difference in the stat line this game and all of last year’s games is that if you look at the stats, nobody really had a bad game. Seemed like last year every game somebody really stunk it up, with turnovers or shooting or us letting a bunch of rebounds get away from us. All of the bench played well, and the Old Guard was spectacular again.

The team still looks winded in the second half. Not sure the conditioning is where it should be. As it stands now, this team will not be running anybody off the court, and certainly not North Carolina. A few of our guys still have spring in the late minutes, but most are dragging. Cal has noted this as a problem and says he will work on it.

It is really going to suck if all of this Wildcat talent lets teams like Louisville out-hustle them because of better conditioning. Hope this gets immediate attention.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 5:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

When you allow for the fact that we have yet to see our two best guards on the floor

at the same time yet, this game speaks volumes. Combine that with Orton spending the whole game on the bench hurt, c’mon Ken…….and I have $5 in my pocket that says that Calipari was NOT pushing these guys. You realize he NEVER called a TO the entire game? Not one. And in another 3-4 weeks, we WILL be running teams off the court. When we DO run Louisville off the court, an apology will be in order…….And do you REALLY want to compare last year’s team to this year? I thought your basketball knowledge was more extensive than that.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 7:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was Calipari who said this team is not ready to run anybody off the floor due to conditioning,

but maybe your basketball knowledge is superior to his as well.

Cal has twice made the point in public, and taken responsibility for it. Yes, it can be remedied, but Cal’s point and mine is simply that this team is not where it should be in terms of conditioning at this point in the season, and it is a glaring (and inexcusable) weakness that must be addressed if we are to achieve the ridiculously lofty goals some of you have assumed we will. As Pitino often rightly said, conditioning is the one thing you have absolute control over, and that is simply a question of discipline. We’ll soon see whether our Golden Boys have discipline to go along with their talent.

As far as whether “last year’s team wasn’t really all that bad,” I would suggest you not drink the revisionist Koolaid. Before BCG’s descent into madness that 22-win team was at one point 16-4 and ranked in the top 25, and rightly so. Of the three teams we played in the Pomeroy National Top Ten, we beat one (#9 West Virginia) and lost to another by a bucket (#4 Louisville). The other team beat us at their place, then went on to become National Champions (#1 UNC).

That team beat a ranked Tennessee team at Tennessee by 18 points. That team beat seven teams that ended the year with more than 20 wins, including the win over an outstanding West Virginia team that ended the year at Number 9 in the Pomeroy rankings.

In fact, until February hit, that team had only six losses, and five of those came from RANKED teams, including the eventual national champion, who beat us at their home dome, as I noted above.

Five of last year’s eventual losses were to ranked teams by an average of 3 points. We lost to South Carolina by 1, to LSU and Louisville by 3, to Mississippi by 5, and Miami by 6. A basket or two in any of those games at the right time (Jodie and DeAndre played uncharacteristically poorly in many of our losses) and this team would have been in the NCAA tournament pushing for the 30 wins 40YearCatFan had predicted for us.

Them’s the facts, friends, and no amount of hand wringing or revisionist history will take them away. Yes, BCG did go nuts there after we got nationally ranked, and hurt Jodie’s feelings, and put Josh in the toilet, and let DeAndre coach for a while, and yes, he totally destroyed team morale. I don’t know whether he was hitting the bottle, or just feeling the glory a little too much, but it was his descent into madness that eventually ran this team out of contention and gave us that 3-8 stretch that is coloring the memory of the marginal Cat fans. To one with true basketball knowledge, though, it remains a fact that, as I said, “last year’s team wasn’t really all that bad.”

I am not a BCG apologist, nor do I say Tubby should have been cut any more slack after ten years without a Final Four, but let’s call a spade a spade when we speak of our past teams. Those boys put up with hell from the fans, from the coach, and from themselves, and before we just blithely accept the ESPN pop culture assessment that UK sucked last year, and now they’re back, we should acknowledge their actual performance and accomplishments, which, though not up to acceptable UK standards, really weren’t all that bad.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Considering we still havent seen this year's whole team, how do you figure???

We still dont know what the full ability of this team is yet…..so you can hold your opinion and I will hold mine……but you put this team on the floor with last year’s team, and its not even close……Jodie would keep them in most games, but this team could run last year’s team off the floor……no matter how unconditioned they are……so far….

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't believe I ever suggested last year's team would beat this year's.

Re-read the original post of you are confused on that.

In fact, what I said was that I found it sobering to read Tru’s salient and cautionary observation that this year’s team is essentially doing what last year’s team did as far as exhibition play. I added my disappointment at the conditioning of what is supposed to be our superior athletes; they have been less well conditioned than those whom we have played.

Coaches often speak of “the team that wants it more” (Cal did this again two days ago). One objective measure of who wants it more is who has spent the summer getting himself in shape to run teams off the court in the winter.

I see maybe three guys who manifested such conditioning (PPat, Daniel, and Wall). The others seem to flag quickly, even against Campbellsville-quality talent, and that is a terrible sign for what a UNC-type team would do to us.

Wouldn’t wanna play VMI just yet…

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bring VMI to town anytime.....

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 8, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2007 Cats Started 15-3

Finished 7-9.

I never predicted 30 W for the 2009 team, only the 2010 team.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 7, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ken P., you are right

about last years team was not bad. That team’s record would of and should of been a lot better than it was. BG’s descent into madness started way before you think it did. I called BG out very early in the season when I wrote what great leaders do and don’t do. You tried to crucify me. The team, got tired of BG’s head games and quit on him, especially Meeks. It’s a shame that a player of Meeks talent had such a bad playing experience at UK. For all the highs he had, the lows were caused by an egomaniac.

by Grasslands1 on Nov 7, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Each Of The Past 4 Teams (2006, 2007, 2008, 2009) Had Talent For 25+ W

2008 was beset by injuries.

2007 and 2009 “spit the bit” in mid-season for reasons unknown.

2006 fell victim to upsets during the SEC schedule and tourney.

The 2010 team has more TALENT than any of those teams.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 7:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Do Predict 30+ W THIS Year

UK had 22 W last year so 25+ W was certainly reasonable to expect.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 6:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, and your infectious optimism has never bothered me!

With more sanity in the coaching box, that team would have had 25 wins easily.

Also, as a Kentucky native I love the assessment that last year’s team, “spit the bit” mid-way through the season. A very apt Bluegrass racing reference to what happened.

Here’s to the quest for 30 wins!

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 8, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well,that team started out ok

but that was one of the weakest preconference schedules in forever.Combine that with two legit scorers(remember the famous “who is gonna be our 3rd scorer?”).Teams could devise defenses to double team Patterson and not let Meeks run loose.From then on,this was just an average team.And their record proved it.

by -Zoso- on Nov 8, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Easy to Coach Against

Zoso,
I think your observation on last years team deserves more attention. Once the glaring holes were discovered in conference play, that team became very easy to coach against. Surround Meeks starting at half-court, Double team Pat and get physical with Perry. Pressure the point and on offense attack Meeks and drive right at Stevenson. What ever you do, force someone other than Meeks or Patterson to score.
While certainly BCG did not help the situation, I think last year’s team was fundamentally lacking talent in crucial areas of the game (ball-handling, creating offense).

by LyricSmith on Nov 8, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can Conditioning happen in 3 weeks?

Ken,

Can a team even get conditioned in 3 weeks? Seems to me the one part of the game that has to come with time. Maybe Coach can compensate (or cover up) using substitution patterns but can he actually get the team in condition?

Miller, Patterson and Orton should certainly be in shape considering their off-season activities. And I think Stevenson and Harris should also be in shape from past years (unless they let there own conditioning lapse).

by LyricSmith on Nov 8, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Last year's team ...

… wasn’t that bad, it’s true, especially offensively. The biggest difference I see so far between last year and this year is consistent defense and the number of threats on the floor at any one time.

Lots of times last year, we had only two real scoring options. This year, well, we have more scoring threats than just about any team in America. Even Ramon Harris is showing signs of becoming a guy you can’t take for granted, and that is a very good thing.

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 7, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where is the love for Perry Stevenson?

After 2 games, Perry is perfect from the field (5 for 5, including a three-pointer), and 10 of 11 from the free throw line.

Perry: 19 points in 30 minutes
PPat: 18 points in 57 minutes

It helps you try to feel good about Tubby again.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Don't See What Tubby Has To Do With Stevenson (or Harris)

He signed both but only played Stevenson 10 minutes per game as a frosh. Harris barely 1 minute per game.

Their development is by Gillispie, now Calipari.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 7, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They both seem to be really flourishing in this system anyway

in spite of what Gillispie may ( or may not) have done with them……

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tubby could develop players as well as anyone in the game.....

So why couldnt he continue to recruit the best of the best to come to Kentucky??

I have never understood why we didnt get the cream of the crop every year….I know we had some good classes, dont get me wrong. Just seemed as though other schools were getting the “game changers” every year.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

UK Has NEVER Gotten The Cream Of The Crop Every Year

Looking back just in the past 20 years, UK did not land the “cream of the crop” in 1989, 1991, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2003, or 2005.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 6:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stevenson

Highly recruited (by Texas, LSU, Ga Tech, et al) so hardly a “sleeper” found by Tubby.

Harris, maybe so. But Harris was hidden away in Alaska for 4 years. He didn’t really get recruited by anyone until the summer of 2006 when he played the AAU circuit.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 7:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Woo Was A Late Signee (Not A Target) After A Euro Recruit Proved 2B Ineligible

Alleyne was one of the Top 5 centers in 2003 HS class who went to college – most C opted to go straight to NBA that year.

Carter never got a fair chance to develop. Even Calipari said he was suprised by his skill levels last spring during team workouts.

Every coach signs some who turn out to be clunkers.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, it wasn't...

If I’m not mistaken, didn’t we lead the conference in FG% offense and defense??? That’s pretty solid for any team. The glaring hole in the BCG era was lack of formidable point guard play (ironically enough, BCG came in as the guy who turned Law into a lottery pick, but anyways). Turnovers killed us last year. I believe if we reduced our turnovers by 33% last year, we would have been at least a #4 seed in the NCAA last year.

Also, last year, parody in college basketball reigned supreme. Without 1 dominant, top-10 caliber team in the SEC last year, everyone’s strength of schedule suffered. If you look at the matchups during the last regular season, SEC teams were competitive with the other major conferences. The reason no SEC team made it to the sweet 16 last year was because of the low seedings they received.

I honestly thought last year’s team was better than the team before last.

by goinss1 on Nov 7, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I COMPLETELY agree with your observations about seeding.

We get screwed year after year, while the Dukes and the UNCs get the feather pillow treatment that makes it damned near impossible to get knocked out before a regional final.

I’ll never forget the year that NUMBER 1 seed UNC was down to the 16 seed Liberty University Flames with 10 minutes to go. Jerry Falwell was in the stands giving God the glory, and I was on my knees at home doing the same thing.

It was not to be, but that just goes to show you that they did NOT deserve that seeding then, as is usually the case (though not the last few years, where they earned it — Duke did not).

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a difference...

…it makes when you can skate to the Sweet-16 with two cupcake wins. 8 vs 9, 7 vs 10, 6 vs11, and 5 vs12 seed games are a push a lot of the times. Those were the kind of seeds the SEC got last year.

by goinss1 on Nov 7, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pomeroy's Computer says Auburn had the 33rd most efficient defense in the country last year, which was tops in the SEC...

… and UK had the 34th, so they were a hair better defensively, although they played against weaker competition, with an overall strength of schedule 94th in the country, to our 76th ranking.

With respect to effective field goal per centage, both offense and defense, Kentucky was second in the SEC in both categories: on the offensive side, honors went to Florida, ranked 14th in the country to UK’s 33rd; defensively, honors go to Mississippi State for ranking 20th to UK’s 26th.

But your point is well taken. We were very strong in both categories last year, and very near the top of the SEC in both.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When playing a D2 school

I try to keep some perspective.But,I mean really,the numbers are flat out sick.

UK FG59%,3PT50%,FT83% Clarion FG23% and we won by 65 points.

by -Zoso- on Nov 7, 2009 8:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What About Liggins?

Does anyone know the deal with Liggins? Two games, everyone plays except him?

by Bluegilla on Nov 7, 2009 8:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cal stated that he would not comment on the Liggins situation, he does not throw his

players under the bus for issues.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmmmm. . .

I have no idea what that means.

by Bluegilla on Nov 7, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cal refused to comment Liggins

said he would not throw him under the bus.

by -Zoso- on Nov 7, 2009 8:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's hope it's grades and not conduct.

I don’t see Cal babying DeAndre the way BCG did, especially since he doesn’t need him on the floor. If DeAndre has had some outbursts, he’s out of here.

It could well be grades. Remember, the boy was in a Derrick Rose situation up until the very end as far as qualifying via the ACT or the SAT. There was talk he wouldn’t be qualified for the fall semester.

On the other hand, when it comes to Liggins I have never been optimistic from what I’ve seen. I’m guessing he’s made some more bone-headed, flashy mistakes trying to be too flamboyant with his passes, and wound up in Cal’s doghouse. I just don’t think the boy has it upstairs.

As I have said several times already, he should have transferred to a mid-major where he can get by on his athleticism and uncanny view of the floor. No real future at the next level, but he could at least have earned some memories and had some fun. Here, he’ll just ride the pine.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN..

Has some headline that says Rumor: Cal angry at Patterson.. I don’t get Insider, but anybody know wth this is about?

by JRod1229 on Nov 7, 2009 8:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

OVERBLOWN. Cal mocked him several times in a positive way during the games. Last game included a sidelines, "He's six inches shorter than you -- are you kidding me?" (kind of rebuke)

Told him he needs to demand the ball, and put himself in a position to deserve it.

Pat said, “My teammates were getting the job done, I don’t care to pad my stats.”

Cal told him, “You are the star of this team, so don’t be bashful just because your teammates are doing a good job.”

I think Cal wants it for Pat, nor for the team necessarily, because certainly Orton, Cousins, and Stevenson are playing great big man ball.

Good for Cal. He will get great play out of Pat when Pat’s humility won’t force him to do it.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

simple...

…It’s called a cliff hanger. They are trying to get you to subscribe and they know that UK basketball is HOT right now…

DO NOT BITE… Probably nothing…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Nov 7, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

On a closer look...

…That was an older article from ESPN, and Cal has said that he was upset that PP took only 7 shots in the 1st exhibition… Wants Pat to demand the ball.
 Like I said, nothing too it…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Nov 7, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

PPat shoots threes and makes them,

John Wall is fast, Cuz is smooth for a big guy, and Perry can dribble drive. These are a few of my favorite things….
Yes….I have a lot more too :-)

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by a2d2 on Nov 7, 2009 10:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Really. They are good things to love, that’s for sure. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 7, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Last night was the first time I began to think about 30 plus wins

I almost smiled, but worried about pulling a muscle after 2 years of… whatever that was.

I went for it anyway. After a couple of aspirin this morning, I feel fine.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Nov 7, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

30+ W Is VERY Likely

UK had 32 W in 1986 coming off 18 W season in 1985.

This team is > than 1986 team.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think the UK train has been turned around and is picking up steam

and we ain’t talkin the “I think I can, I think I can” train, either.

Darn, I smiled again. Where’s my aspirin.

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by cincyblue on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone contact a pharmaceutical company

we are gonna need large quantities for a while. :-)

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by a2d2 on Nov 7, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Key Improvements

Much better overall performance and execution. Most impressive IMO is the improvement in the two areas of greatest weakness vs Campbellsville: perimeter defense and perimeter shooting. Increased athleticism and corresponding quickness very obvious on defense although the talent disparity must be considered. Team looked much more comfortable in DDM but still miles to go in crispness and knowledgeable execution. Impressive FT shooting especially early in season. Improved rebounding, noticeably on defensive boards. Harris and Stevenson responding well to diminished playing time, experience will be a great asset. Wall appears to be all he was hyped to be. Patterson tendency to be deferential was not as great but it should be recognized that the DDM favors perimeter/wing players although, as Calipari asserted, there will be some changes made in DDM to facilitate Cats interior size. Liggins, I feel his central difficulty is, shall we say, academic. One should not forget the classroom difficulties Liggins has experienced throughout his scholastic experience.

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-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 7, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If I had read this first I could have skipped writing mine; we essentially made the same observations.

(even with respect to Liggins)

I am giving much of the credit for improved play to the Wall in/Bledsoe out circumstance. I have a hard time believing that there was enough time between the two exhibition games to account for it any other way. Plus, I saw Wall. What more is there to say?

I also have some anxiety about Pat deferring, but Cal does as well, and has been in Pat’s face about it. It will be fun to watch that develop throughout the year.

by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 7, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why we are better.

The biggest reason we will be a much improved team this year is due to the overall competitive spirit this team has. I like what Coach Cal has done with the roster. It’s deep and talented. There is not the disparity in talent for the 8th, 9th, and 10th players off of the bench like we have had in the last few years. Our practices make us better, pure and simple. When you have talent playing against talent everyday, you are going to get better. I love that we can basically rotate in a whole new 5 when our guys get winded. Is it just me, or do substitutions seem much less noticeable than the way our last 2 coachs did it?

I know it’s only an exhibition game, but I would guess that we have all watched enough basketball to recognize some of the positive changes already.

Plus, we finally have a point guard. Hallelujah! Go Cats!!!

by goinss1 on Nov 7, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Quantum Leap In Talent

Is the primary difference. Consider that two starters from last year’s team are now no better than 8 and 9 on this squad…and even lower if one considers talent only.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 7, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AMEN.....

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not Fair To Stevenson Or Harris (Knocking Their Talent Level)

Pure baloney.

Stevenson was the all-time HS leading shotblocker in the USA. He was 2-time All-Stater who AVERAGED a triple double those 2 seasons. His HS team won 2 state titles to boot.

He has talent. So does Harris.

Harris won 4 straight state titles in Alaska. Few others have done that in ANY state. He got little publicity playing up there but he is a talented player.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 7, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perry seems to love this offense....and is doing great.....

and Harris seems much more confident in what he is doing…..Stevenson has never lacked confidence, he just couldnt get into the rhythm of the game it seemed last year.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Last year's offense

had no rhythm for anybody to get into. With Patterson expected to take most of the shots from the low post, opponents packed the middle. Perry had little room to maneuver nor did it seem he was expected to. I never felt that Harris got a lot of encouragement on offense last year.

by Fortunatus on Nov 8, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he did either.....I was really surprised to see how smooth he

and Perry are in this offense though….they just seem to flow with it. Just another reason this team is going to be so tough to play.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 8, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think it was as much knocking their talent levels as it is realizing

the talent levels of the incoming players……Both the guys are talented, but on this team they do fall in that 7-10 range. Thats what is so great about this team, it is loaded from top to bottom…..If, and I say only if DeAndre Liggins is the least talented player on this team right now, I will take it. Mark Krebs not withstanding.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Orton and Cousins > Stevenson.

And Dodson and Hood > Harris.

In terms of talent, that is.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 6:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that should be rephrased....do you Forty see either of those kids as NBA talent?

I only say that for one reason…..We may……ok….we should have 4 NBA Players starting this year….possibly 5…..Cousins, Patterson, Wall, Bledsoe, and Orton ALL in my judgement are NBA talent. We had 2 playing last year…..To me that seems on the surface to be a major upgrade in talent….Also….look at our 2nd 5 compared to last year…..that is an even bigger upgrade in talent.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 7, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

Stevenson is too skinny and short to be NBA “4” player.

Harris doesn’t create enough offense to be NBA “2” player.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 8, 2009 6:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Two years of

BG’s head games were possibly Perry and Ramon’s biggest problems. The man did not know how to build confidence in anybody but his opponents.

by Grasslands1 on Nov 7, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

High Praise For Cats From Coach Righter

Most talented team, top to bottom, that he’s seen in years. Outstanding improvement from Monday to Friday.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 7, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 7, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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