Kentucky 34, Georgia 27 -- Postmortem
by Glenn Logan on Nov 22, 2009 12:16 AM EST
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PrintIt's time to party, Kentucky fans! The Big Blue Nation has pulled a notable upset on the road versus a Georgia team that absolutely shot themselves in the foot not once, but so often that they were operating on one leg and a peg from the knee down.
Georgia utterly dominated Kentucky in every respect except for the one that mattered -- the final score. Georgia played a beautiful first half, and came back in the second half and did nothing but turn the ball over. This was not a good game by the Dawgs after that first half, and they really lost their composure in the second. I want to thank them for the effort, and my understanding is that they treat visiting teams with the greatest respect and classic Southern hospitality. But today, the Red Clay Hounds were their own worst enemy.
The first half of this football game was one of the most frustrating I have ever had the misfortune to witness. The play calling was weirdly inept, the defense as desperately needing an intravenous infusion of Viagra to cure its impotence. Georgia was running, passing, and dominating Kentucky utterly.
The domination was particularly complete on the lines. UK's O-line could not keep Georgia out of the backfield. The UK D-line got pushed around like they had four 150 lb. guys instead of 300+, and Joe Cox had enough time to brew a cup of coffee before looking for his receiver. At halftime, I was beginning to fear that UK was going to be uncompetitive for only the second time this season.
But when UK came out and forced a fumble for an immediate score on the opening kickoff of the second half, I knew we were back in the ball game. I figured that a close loss was likely, but how wrong I was. UK came out and reversed the line domination completely on defense, and mostly on offense. Georgia got frustrated and began throwing the football to UK players, with disastrous results. In the final ignominy, the Dawgs turned the ball over on the Kentucky one-yard line.
More after the jump.
Part of me feels for Georgia fans. Georgia is a true, old-South SEC football school. They play other sports in Athens, but football is the only sport that matters. This win steals the hearts from hundreds of thousands of Georgia fans thinking that perhaps this team had turned the corner after defeating ancient rival Auburn last week.
My recollection is that that Georgia stole the heart from us last year in basketball on senior day in Rupp Arena, a sport that we Wildcat fans take pretty seriously. Now they know what that feels like, having your favorite team in your favorite sport lose on the day you celebrate the seniors in your home stadium. I know from personal experience that it feels really bad.
Vengeance aside, this win validates this Kentucky team, at least on paper. I would dispute that it was the kind of win you can hang your hat on because so much of it was facilitated by Georgia mistakes. But UK was able to capitalize on those mistakes, so that is a big positive.
It is also a big positive that UK came out so strong after the half, when they could have just folded their tents and got ready for Tennessee next week. Instead, they came out and, with help from the Dawgs, found a way to steal the game and go to 7-4, 3-4 in the SEC.
As I write this, I am trying to watch the basketball game I missed earlier on replay, and finishing up the last tiny bit of a bottle of Four Roses I have had for quite some time. So I'll get to my observations now:
- Randall Cobb is indispensible to this team. Even injured, he affected the game.
- Trevard Lindley had the worst game I can remember for him. Cox threw some really good balls, as well as bad ones, and a lot of the good ones were in Lindley's direction.
- Wow, the turnovers. Great job by UK for being opportunistic.
- La'Rod King only had one catch, but what a catch it was!
- Locke is scary when he gets any space between him and the defense. Scary.
- It's been a long time since I've seen two teams reverse roles like that after the half.
- Our special teams were very good today. I think it's time we cut Ortmayer some slack.
- Joker Phillips called an okay second half. The first half was really bad.
- Arm tackling. Lots of it in the first half, not so much in the second.
- Tydlacka always seems to throw in a clunker, but that kick from the end zone might have been the difference in the game.
- I'm sorry Uga died. I hate it when dogs die.
- Who were these game announcers? I have rarely been more annoyed by two people announcing a football game.
- Morgan Newton is still a freshman, but he made better decisions in the second half.
- Randall Cobb and Derrick Locke may be two of the most underrated football players in America. But if they keep this up, it won't stay that way.
- One guy I forgot in my original post was Sam Maxwell. What a game by Sam! Game ball. He was everywhere, and the INT in the second half was the difference. What a great season he is having.
Okay, I'm done. Had a good day at the track, the basketball 'Cats finally played well, we beat Georgia between the hedges, and I have a few sips left of a lovely drop of bourbon.
This was a good day.
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Wow
Kentucky’s had many come from behind wins in the past few seasons (how weird is it to have typed that?!?), but this is the only one I can remember where I felt they were completely and hopelessly whipped as late as halftime. Did anyone in UK fandom think they had any chance after that first half performance (with UGA getting the ball to start the 3rd, no less)?
But Moncell speared the ball out, and the whole game changed. A couple completely random thoughts
- Aside from the obvious of attitude, the biggest difference is our depth. Pre-Brooks, we were fine 1 deep, but the 2 deep was virtually always a mess, and that’s why we folded in the 4th quarter. Now we have an actual 2-deep, especially on defense, meaning everyone is fresh coming into the 4th quarter. McCord’s play typifies that.
- How about some love for Sam Maxwell. This is a guy who sat for 3 years waiting for his chance, behind some great linebackers, making plays when given the chance. And now, his senior year, he’s been our best defensive player. He’s going to be 2nd team all-SEC (would be first team, but for the misfortune of being at the toughest position in the conference), something absolutely no one thought about coming into this year.
I can't believe I left out Maxwell.
I thought about it right after I went to bed. I’m going to add him in. Better late than never. Game ball.
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Great post, great game!
Suddenly, I feel like you and I were justified in our positivity Tru! The negative nellies have been rampant lately about football and CRB, and you and I are vindicated finally.
Great win! Go Big Blue!!
-Alan
http://www.overthepylon.net
Ask Tru how he felt at halftime there Pylon......lol....he was sweating it out just like the rest of us......
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
No doubt.
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 22, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
s'ok Tru......even the best of us have moments of doubt sneak in in times of trial and tribulation.....lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
Gotta
go with you on that one. A very underrated bourbon.
If only I could spell it correctly... :-)
But I agree, it is very underrated. I just love it. Now, I’ll have to go get me a new bottle, hopefully to celebrate all the huge victories yet to come! :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 22, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Get a bottle
of Jack Daniels and pour it on the ground when we beat Tennessee.
Great idea!
Not a JD fan.
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 22, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Do Jack Daniels fans even exist in Kentucky?
I thought those bottles on the shelves have just been there since the store opened.
Well ...
… the brand is owned by a Kentucky company, so I’m thinking yes. :-)
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What a win....a great win !!!
And FWIW mb78, I always have faith in my team. Just sayin’. :-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Bowl Games...
If Kentucky beats Tennessee next Saturday and LSU looses, that should put Kentucky in position for a Cotton Bowl bid! That would be awesome!
We would both be 8-4, 4-4 in the SEC…But we would have won our last two and they would have lost their last two… That’s why I figured they would pick us over them…
by stephensmith on Nov 22, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Fantastic Game
I was optimistic about the game at first. But I admit I almost gave up after seeing us get outcoached so badly in the first half. But wow, did we make some adjustments and come through with some clutch play for the second half! And it wasn’t Randall Cobb and Derrick Locke alone that carried us for once. They played great (especially Locke) but we have some real heroes in Sam Maxwell, Corey Peters, Moncell Allen, Shane McCord, and a huge cast of characters.
I am getting so that I get more excited over the football games than the basketball games. Crazy, I know.
Could this finally be the year that we beat Tennessee and break the streak? Let’s do it!!
Go Cats!!
No Cotton Bowl Bid
I am being selfish but I need to see my Cats go to Flordia this year, either in the Outback bowl or the former Citrus Bowl. Of course the Cotton is more prestigious, but it’s not in my back yard!!!
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Wow
Just look at the boxscore again.
28-7 in the 3rd and 4th quarter
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Nobody could of thought we had
a chance of winning this game after watching the first half. This victory was big for UK football in our run for better recruits. This one feels great.
And what great combination and justification
for the many players on the team that are originally from Georgia.
Nice PM, you’ve really had a nice day. Haven’t we all – a perfect day. but Ortmeyer slack? I’ll just say thank goodness for the facemask penalty – by the punter, no less. Without it, Georgia gets a first down on a blocked punt. The kicking game was adequate (overlook the missed tackles) and the punting game, at least, didn’t hurt us.
Random thoughts: Georgia will cancel a game before playing without an Uga on the sideline in the future; on 3rd and four, with the lead in the fourth quarter why do you throw a 25 yard pass?; Price of next weekends tickets?; this game will do nothing but enhance our recruiting presence around Georgia; I’d really like for the passing game look smooth, the players have the talent but we look as shaky as a toddler learning to ride a bike. Whenever we pass it seems like the whole audience is thinking “Wonder how this is going to work out?”; Outside of the Auburn game we still haven’t learned to start a game strong. Tonite we scored on first possesion but then swam upstream for two quarters. It wasn’t until Georgia threw us a few life jackets before we came up for air; The build up and excitement leading up to next week’s game will rival anything seen in Lexington for years.
I shook my head
at that pass play as well. However, that 2nd down play at the goal line after we had recovered the DAWGS fumble nearly caused a stroke. The very next play Locke picked the loss of yards back up but not enough for the 1st down. Plays like those in critical situations usually result in UK fans thinking about what could have been. The football gods were smiling on us last night. Any ideas on how to appease them for next weekend?
Can't bring myself
to congratulate a UK basketball team, but the football team? Sure. Congrats to the UK football team on a big win.
by don'tshootmei'macard on Nov 22, 2009 3:56 AM EST reply actions
Thanks.
Half a loaf is better than none. :-)
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Hey,
maybe if Louisville football ever has another big win you could reciprocate! Ha!
by don'tshootmei'macard on Nov 22, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
maybe we should wear white jerseys this weekend...
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Nov 22, 2009 5:35 AM EST reply actions
No control!
But I do, i just cant help myself from feeling this way, from knowing Tru is full of B.S! He finished that bottle midway through the first half, if not at the track!
I feel no Remorse for handling the DOGS on this day, they should be reeling from defeat, at the hands of a supposed in superior opponent!
And let this be a lesson to all. Not just any advisory. But “for those who deem us weak, incontinent and unable to defend our selfs from the able and full bodied” We shall stand in victories circle and claim our piece of the mountain!" That is the South Eastern Conference
Heh.
There is a part of me that agrees with you. Georgia fans have looked down their noses at UK for so long, it feels good to send them back home with a bloody one. :-)
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the crowd shots
of the Bulldog fans was priceless. I wish there was a way you can do a picture in picture of the stunned fans in the stands. I could watch that all day
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by PJordan32746 on Nov 22, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Been
reading the fan posts on the Georgia blog. Talk about a feeding frenzy.
Me too!
I love it! No credit for the Cats, but that’s okay.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Nov 22, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
THAT was hilarious
That (other than the win obviously) was the highlight of the game. Then they’d cut to the UK fans all smiles and dancing around…..priceless!
it was the pink pants
that did GA in…lol….great win Cats, you young men erned it, you never gave up
we don’t have a lot of room to bash anyone on their uniforms. unless you a smurf fan.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Wrong
its Smurese!
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I dunno, Tru
I don’t think you’re giving UK enough credit. Sure, Georgia made mistakes, but that’s college football. With the exception of the fumble at the goal line, we caused their mistakes. Case in point: Maxwell’s game sealing interception. It was the same play he had been beaten on earlier. This time, he recognized it, got inside position, and made the play.
Good teams capitalize on what their opponents give them. Kentucky did that last night; I think that makes them a good team.
I’ll hang my hat on this win anyday.
It's time. . .
Yeah.
That’s true. It’s college football. Wins are just a bit less satisfying to me when I know the other team’s really egregious errors was more responsible than our own good play.
But the flip side to that is that many of those turnovers were the result of UK’s good play with the exception of the goal-line fumble, and we got nothing out of that.
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but what about our first missed PAT...
had we made that one, the score uga “should” have scored would have only been relevant if they had converted a 2 pt conversion…
agree a bit with both of you – tru and nyccats – as much as i would like to beat a mistakeless uga, you have to give credit to uk for creating AND capitalizing on the turnovers….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Nov 22, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm hearing a lot of
yeah but Georgia, Auburn, whomever UK beats, are having off years so the victories don’t really mean much. None of those teams have ever given back the victory over us when we were struggling.
I don't care about those "yeah but" fans from other schools
I’ve lost track of all the heartbreaking loses by Kentucky, the proverbial “defeats snatched from the jaws of victory” types. We have plenty in the bank that are due for payback. Every victory counts and I’ll take them in any form since at the end of the season wins are still wins.
i would reply....
yeah but you are “suppose” to be UK even in a down year…
clearly, they might be down, but we have to be “up” to take advantage of it.
that is fine, i like being underestimated…hope the vols are doing that as we speak
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Nov 23, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Don't Understand
Don’t get me wrong I am as happy about the win as anybody out there but one can’t help scratching their head at: 1) the lack of “physicalness” in the first half, 2) the sometimes idiotic playcalling, 3) no emotion in the first half, essentially just phoning it in, 4) the defense’s total inability to stop either the run or the pass, 5) Trevard Lindley getting beat on every throw in his area and then with Moncel Allen’s hit on the opening kickoff for the second half Kentucky shows up!!!!! If we could only play a full game. Why do we get off to such slow starts in such important games?
Oh well, that’s the beauty of sports, wondering why and what if. A great sports weekend for the Cats with both games being televised. The basketball win was more or less expected but still intriguing, the football win less expected but probably more greatly appreciated. Let’s go bowling folks!
Really.
At least a couple. That guy is good. What a catch he made.
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Exactly.
King, Newton and the rest of the kittens are starting to grow-up. What a win.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Nov 22, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
He has definitely earned some playing time, and with Matthews hurt he just may get it next week.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
So Tru ...
I must say that I am a bit disappointed that the “Sea of Blue Agent Provocateurs” have not shown up yet o try to drag a black cloud over this victory…. surely we can bash our poor out of conference schedule some more or even slam on Papaw Brooks when he has gone to Auburn and Georgia and emerged with wins ….
ah thats disappointing
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no one is awake yet.....lol.....give it time......but the critics cant say much about this one.
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Well Kentucky being Kentucky,
In the immediate midst of the victory, several people I was watching the game with said, “we should’ve beaten South Carolina and Miss. St to be 9-2 right now.”
Even in victory, we celebrate our defeats.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Nov 22, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, fear not.
They will. This will not be enough to keep them quiet.
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 22, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Not many times you get to say that you went down to Georgia and came back not needing medical attention
of some kind…….great 2nd half and way to make fools out of all of us on here last night…….lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
There will
never be a better time to end the streak against Tennessee. I think I wish we were playing them in Knoxville!
I am not even going to make a real big point out of the fact that I said in the 1st half last night it
would take 28 pts to beat Georgia…….nah…..I wouldnt do that.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
The cats
of olden days would often hang tough with the biggies in the SEC for the first half then fade rapidly in the second. We are having more success in finishing games now but these first halves are killing me.
I cant believe this, I dont know which replay to watch first.........basketball or football
good grief……..decisions, decisions
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
Huh?
you’re kidding I hope! Basketball vs Rider? Over the Cats winning for the first time in 45 years in Athens.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I'm a giddy as a school girl
Tru is dead on. From a Kragthorpe-esque first have to a dominating second half.
Sam Maxwell is a beast……..Cobb is still Chuck Norris, and Locke is the freaking man.
Morgan Newton showed signs in the second half that he is starting to get it. Great game experience for him last night.
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
::Sigh::
Note: When referencing football I refer to UK collectively as ‘yall’, however when referencing basketball it’s ‘us’. (UGA alum, from G-town)..
Well, once again made another trip to Athens to watch my beloved dawgs take on UK. Thought it would be a great day as I had managed to catch a little of the UK v. Rider win, and then if my dawgs could take down UK, it’d be perfect. Pretty much a microcosm of our entire season right there. Better product on the field, but just shoot ourselves in the foot the whole time. Questionable play calling, suspect defense in the 2nd, our normal TO problems, and it all adds up to another loss between the hedges. Really sad the seniors had to go out like this, but if I can remain hopeful for one thing, it’s that we will see widespread program changes, and hopefully improve. With the talent we constantly put on the field we shouldn’t ever lose to a lower tier team. It happens, I know (I was there in Lexington when it happened last) but it wasn’t a situation where we weren’t prepared, we just didn’t execute in the 2nd half at all.
Not taking anything away from UK, yall stuck with the game plan even after the first half where it looked like we would dominate. You didn’t let the pressure do you in, and executed when you needed to. Joe Cox did the rest.
I’m glad its basketball season, as I just can’t handle this stuff too well. When you add in the depressing nature of the UGA and UK programs (football and basketball) the past couple years, it’s been a rough ride. At least on team looks like it is going in the right direction.
Anyways, hats of to UK… lots of fans came down to Athens, and I tried my best to talk to them all. As always it’s a classy bunch (for the most part) and I hope Athens showed everyone a good time. Good win by a program that is obviously going in the right direction.
Thanks, I am curious about one thing though.
Why were so many people leaving with 2:00 to go when Georgia had 2 TO’s and was getting ready to get the ball back??
That just seems strange to me and to a lot of us on here that were watching last night. And it wasnt just a few, the aisles were full headed to their cars…..
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
I was one of them...
Mainly I was fed up, and yeah, felt like an a-hole fan (I’m never one to boo my team or any of that), but honestly wanted to beat traffic back to Atlanta. And if you’ve watched this UGA team all year, you could pretty much guess the outcome. I’m still depressed and just amazed to be honest.
A very important win
A great win! Cobb and Locke were the keys. And all the turn overs by Georgia. They aren’t playing inspired football for some reason. A lot of stupid penalities by them.
Lets hope the luck stays with us this week.
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Holy Cow!
Paris posts something after a win!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 22, 2009 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Paris poated after the Auburn win also
Seems you didn’t notice.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I guess "poated" was a typo but
was it supposed to be “posted” or “pouted”? ;-)
by hoboat33 on Nov 22, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well done, sir
well done.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on Nov 23, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Here's a thought...
While me and a friend were talking during the game he commented on how the fans were leaving with two minutes to go. I told him this “that shows you how they think of us now, they think they can’t win this game anymore” oh how I loved that.
by Conis22 on Nov 22, 2009 2:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Huge win for UK-
I just hope that this game gives us a lot of confidence for the Tennessee game. A win in that game would propel us into a really good bowl, and would pay big dividends in recruiting. GO CATS- BEAT UT!!
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Funny...
Catching up on things, was at friend’s house watching the game last night. Read the game posts and it went from WTFO to Whoo Hooo!! Certainly a nice way to end the day!
Maybe the bad Crompton and good Joker will show up next weekend…
If your wings don't sweep....
I always enjoy reading game threads after the fact
You can track the ups and downs.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 22, 2009 4:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
can't wait till next Saturday
and I bet the team will be pumped up as well
give em hell CATS
If they aren't
pumped up, they better not show up.
Awful Announcers
“Who were these game announcers? I have rarely been more annoyed by two people announcing a football game.”
Mark Jones and Bod Davie. Jones called out the wrong names repeatedly; he belittled everything UK did, and called the game as if GA was ranked #1 and UK was winless. What an uninformed jerk. Incompetent broadcasting.
RANDALL COBB
The More Disciplined Team Won
Kentucky kept playing when they had more of a right to give up. Great game! My hat goes off to this team and to the coaching staff who prepared their players to stay tough and to not give up!
2nd time just as good...
I just watched the replay after being at the game last night. Wow, it was just a much fun the second time watching the Cats redeem themselves in the second half. So happy for those guys. It’s time to end another streak next week and I can’t wait to get to a rockin’ Commonwealth Stadium on Sat!!
by ukcat2169 on Nov 22, 2009 7:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The difference is
Unlike in years past, we have talent to overcome our mistakes. Brooks and Phillips are average coaches, at best, but we players that can make up for it. Sure, we could be 9-2, but we could just as easily lost to vandy, loserville and ga. I would take 1-11 with a win Saturday.
by daniel81 on Nov 22, 2009 7:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I am with you wineman
and to say Brooks and Joker are average at best shows that daniel doesn’t understand what an average football coach means. I doubt if average coaches have fields named after them. Joker is definitely more than average when it comes to recruiting. Nobody at UK has been able to recruit without cheating like he has. Plus the clincher is, average coaches never even get the SEC.
Average at best
The play calling was poor at best. Heck we tried to take a knee on the one yard line. Beating ut much more symbolic than beating Uga on a very down year.danny downer heh? Quite original.
by daniel81 on Nov 22, 2009 10:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is not
the first down year that Georgia has had. We have taken as good if not better teams down there and lost. The symbolism has to do with winning on the road in the SEC. Not an easy thing to do in football or basketball. It is easy to be negative all the time, heck, I bet you are inspired to do so everytime you look in the mirror.
everytime I look in the mirror?
What the eff are you talking about? You my friend are typical of a lot of posters and fabs in general. you can’t look at your team objectively. I have never liked brooks and I’m not going to start because we were gift wrapped a victory against an average team. What about miss state? What about the first half against Florida? What about our last in the sec recruiting class next year? Brooks looks like he’s asleep half the time on the sideline, and his teams start games that way.
As for the mirror comment, you sound like an old, jealous fart. Drink ya another glass of snobbery chumpzilla. I have to go comb my hair, remember what that was like?
by daniel81 on Nov 23, 2009 8:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Talent wise..
UK hasn’t brought a better team to face UGA in a long time. Certainly not this decade.
Exactly
Five years ago I would have bought the woe is Kentucky, we don’t have the talent to compete argument, but not anymore. The past five years we have brought in some solid players. I can understand the mediocre record last year with the QB change, but two years ago we should have been in a New Year’s Day game if not a BCS game. We just have a fundamental difference, I think we can be a great program, it’s not like Alabama came into the league and was automatically a great team. And don’t forget, it was UK that was the first school to end the year ranked number 1 in football and basketball. I’m glad we won, but I credit the players, not the coaching staff.
"I have never liked brooks and I’m not going to start ..."
I think that pretty well tells me where to file your comments regarding Kentucky football — in the bit bucket.
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 23, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure what the bit bucket is.
But file them where you may. If Georgia didn’t turn into turnover U in the second half, this thread would have been entirely different. You can acknowledge that or not, but it’s the truth. Just like if the Irish had a few more plays go their way this year, Charlie Weiss would all of sudden be the greatest coach in America again. That’s America baby, most of our opinions and beliefs are left up to chance. I still think Weiss is a good coach, and I still think Brooks is an average coach. Under Brooks we’ve been pretty much been the same, bottom tier SEC school team as before. Beating UT this week will start changing my mind on that, because we always play the puke Orange with the attitude that we expect to lose.
There is no doubt ...
… that Georgia lost this game on turnovers. It isn’t as if UK took the game from them by superior play.
The thing is, pre-Brooks, UK would not have taken advantage of the turnovers and scored.
Brooks may not be the best coach in America, but he is certainly solid, and in my opinion (and and that of most football observers), well above average. And for me, that’s enough. Your mileage may vary.
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 23, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
hey
We win one we’re not suppose to and all of a sudden Brooks and Joker are coaches of the year. That’s good stuff.
Well, since Grasslands let us all know this site is actually set up for basketball, I can understand a little confusion.
Right Grasslands?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
96 comments into the thread...
…and we get our first piece of tripe from Danny Downer. It’s all too predictable.
"The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its most stupid member divided by the number of mobsters." --Terry Pratchett
A SUPER Day
to be a Wildcat fan. Looking at the box score today, it’s even harder to understand how we won that game last night but Oooooooooh it was so nice to watch the sad faces on those Bulldog fans as they filed out. Turnovers and key plays won a game for us that we probably should have lost. What a great second half and if any team in America deserves a break or two, it’s UK. We’ve certainly lost our share of these kinds of games in the past and it says a lot about Coach Brooks and his staff that the team didn’t quit at halftime. Now let’s keep this mojo going and kick UT’s ass next week!!!!
I was at the game.
I live in Augusta and got tickets in the lower level right in the middle of the worst bunch of GA fans I’ve ever seen. Mostly, they are pretty good but these were rough. I cheered hard when Locke scored the first touchdown and 4 somewhat inebriated guys in front of me asked me if I would like to watch from the bathroom. I told them that I would be yelling Locke and Cobb’s name all night and to get used to it.
Of course I didn’t have much to yell about in the first half and they were rubbing it in pretty good. I just kept my head up and told them it ain’t over yet.
When we took the lead they got so down on their team it was awful. I’ve heard bad comments about players before but the depth of hatred those fans showed for Joe Cox bordered on wrong. I actually felt sorry for the guy on his senior game. But, I will cherish this win for a long time and grabbed a hunk of hedges for my collection!
Go Cats!
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I don't understand you people upthread
Why all the negativity about this win? If you’re waiting for the day when UK will just demolish nationally-recognized programs (down year or not), you’re just wasting your time – it ain’t gonna happen.
So instead of bitching about the coaches or the schedule or the lucky breaks or the play calling, why don’t you just enjoy this for once? If you can’t enjoy the all-too-infrequent moments of success, why even follow this team?
I just don’t get it.
It's time. . .
I agree
Those drinking the haterade need to partake elsewhere.
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Why?
Because you can never substantiate any of your comments, you just post silly links and pictures of fat kids spinning a basketball? Come on, if me saying Brooks is an old geezer ruins your feel good vibe, you must not have that much belief in the team to start with. I know you’ve heard worse.
To me, the issue isn't with the substance of the comments
Look, reasonable people can disagree with the coaching and recruiting acumen of the current staff. They provide plenty of examples of (apparently) bone-headed play calls; at the same time, we also pull some pretty impressive plays out of our hat too, and the overall development of the program (in terms of competitiveness) since Brooks and Joker have taken charge is, to my mind, undeniable, at least to some degree.
But that’s not the issue. The point is, this is probably one of our more significant road wins in the last few decades. If one can’t appreciate that for what it is, again, I don’t see why one even bothers to follow the team. Better to just give up, because one will never be satisfied.
There’s a time and a place for everything. The day after a huge win is probably not the best time to bring up this team’s deficiencies. Now is a time for celebration and getting geared up for a legitimate chance to end a ridiculous streak against us and finish 2nd (2nd!!) in the SEC East.
Trust me – there will be plenty of opportunities in the future to take your shots. I’m just asking you to save it for a while.
Beat Tennessee.
It's time. . .
Brooks has accomplished more than any other coach here in the past 30 years
Hate him all you want, he’s the best thing to happen to UK football in my lifetime.
As to your post, you get a ride on….
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Gonna have to agree with ya on the coach-bashing...
And, I’ve been guilty of it too! I was really down on Steve Brown after the MS ST game, I still think his decision to stay in the nickel package allowed them to run all over us, but that’s over and done with now…
My point is this… I watched Joker’s post game interview and heard something interesting, even went back and watched some replay to confirm it. Joker said that kids weren’t playing with any intensity in the first half, but they came out fired up in the second half. Case in point, the screen pass that Locke scored on in the second half was run for a loss in the first half.
Now, who’s to blame for what here?? Joker looks like a dork when the play is run in the first half, and a genius in the second half! When asked about “adjustments” during the half, Joker stated “we didn’t make any adjustments, we knew what they were doing. We just needed to execute” (paraphrased).
I guess my point is that the same guy called the first half as did the second half. But, without the execution of the players, the results were night and day!
If your wings don't sweep....
Soooo you made daniel's point in a different way....sort of....i think.....:)
he puts the praise on the players and not the coaching staff for the victory yesterday….since the player’s began to execute better and the coaching staff didn’t really make any adjustments, he could be correct? ;0
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.
LOL I'm not sure either??? :-)
I’d say I’d have to agree with your last sentence… So, yeah, I guess that’s true. You could have the best O-Cord in the world calling the plays, but if the kids don’t run the play correctly and meet all their assignments, it will look like crappy play calling.
I think that this is really a two-way street here… Let’s face it, Joker’s play book has been thinned out since Morgan took over. He just doesn’t have the experience yet to do some of the more real-time defensive reads that are required; ie check-downs and audibles. So, what plays we do run have to executed correctly to turn into a positive result. One O-lineman misses an assignment and we’ve got a loss of 3 yards…
From my memory, and I certainly didn’t chart all the plays like Joker does, but I only saw one really questionable call from the booth… That was the long pass down the sideline in the second half when we were 3rd and 4 and trying to protect the lead. Right on the other hand, if it’s a completion, it’s a great call!!
Maybe a circular arguement? Chicken, or the egg
If your wings don't sweep....
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