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Kentucky 102, Sam Houston 92 -- Postmortem

Well, that was all kinds of fun.

Great game by the Sam Houston State Bearkats.  They really came in and gave it all they had, and it was almost enough.  This team can really shoot when they want to.  If they could bottle tonight and dole it out in doses throughout the year, they might win their league and make the NCAA tournament easily.

I have been watching college basketball a very long time, more years than some members of this blog have been drawing breath.  But I am sure that I have never seen two opposing teams back to back hit so many three point shots.  For both Miami and Sam Houston, they made the three look like a layup, or a free-throw.  In fact, I've seen lots of teams shoot a worse percentage from the free throw line than Sam Houston did from 20'9" -- 18-38.

I really don't know what to make of it, this amazing three-point shooting.  It's as if teams come into Rupp Arena, look at the basket, decide that it looks as big around as Jared Fogle before his Subway diet, and start filling it up like it fire hydrant unleashed on a blow-up backyard pool.

Kentucky's perimeter defense was pretty weak, okay?  I get that. But I don't know very many people who could stand at 25 feet and shoot 50% unopposed, let alone with other players running at them.  At least half of those threes were two to four feet behind the line.  Amazing.

Perhaps it's all the pre-season publicity that is driving this ridiculous opposition shooting.  Perhaps they just hate Kentucky.  Who knows?  Whatever it its, UK needs an antidote, and that antidote is better and sharper defense.  A big part of SHS' outstanding night was confusion and failure to communicate.  That has to get better.  But even all that does not explain the otherworldly, Hand of God shooting that UK has faced in the last two games.

But there is one really big positive -- both games were victories, and even historic three-point shooting was not enough to upset Kentucky.  I think that's important, don't you?  Can you imagine what would have happened last year?

More after the jump.

Star-divide

Here are my observations:

  • This is an approximate quote from John Calipari after the game:  "Daniel Orton was having a great game.  People ask why I didn't play him more.  You know why I didn't play him more?  Because the other kid [Cousins] was a beast!"  Cousins was a beast.
  • He may have been a beast, but Cousins has got to become stronger with the ball.  He was very weak with it tonight.
  • Darius Miller had a very nice game offensively but only one rebound.  Yes, I know Cousins soaked up most of the rebounds, but Miller has got to do more on the glass.
  • What a 3-point shooting outburst from Bledsoe.  I really don't know what to say, except, "Well done!"
  • John Wall and Eric Bledsoe combined for 12 of Kentucky's 23 turnovers.  That's much too high a number.
  • John Wall played pretty well, but he seemed out of control and unfocused to me.  He is much better than he played tonight.  He played hard, but not smart.
  • Ramon Harris gave us five rebounds in 12 minutes, and a huge play that led to a Cousins dunk that stopped a run.  Calipari truly loved what Harris brought tonight, and said so.
  • Daniel Orton payed well, with four blocks, two rebounds, an assist and a steal in 10 minutes.
  • UK dominated SHS on the boards, 48-33.  That was a big difference.
  • Patrick Patterson did what he always does -- play great. 8-9 from the field, 1-2 from the arc, 9 rebs, 1 block and 2 assists.  That may not seem spectacular to you, but it does to me.
  • Calipari is not at all happy with this team.  But he will be.
  • SHS shot 38% overall, and UK shot 60%.  And the margin was 10.  The three is a great equalizer.
  • 19-29 from the free throw line is not good.
  • No Darnell Dodson.  No Josh Harrellson.  No DeAndre Liggins.
  • The team was gassed after this game.  But the Bearkats were almost falling down from fatigue.
  • DeMarcus Cousins was asked after the game if he had ever seen three-point shooting that good in high school, and he said (paraphrase) "Yes, once.  John Jenkins.  He plays for Vanderbilt."  Fair warning from the Big Cuz.

This was yet another strange game in a series of strange games.  I sure do hope we can get our minds right by the time we face Rider on Saturday afternoon.  UK has terrific talent, and they are winning almost exclusively on talent and not on execution, either defensively or offensively.

If Kentucky is going to live up to their potential, they must do better.

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Agree ... last year we would have been toast

These are the kinks we all knew would have to be worked out. Another great teaching game … this team is far far away from its potential. Obviously, the focus has been more on geting the offense in gear. I feel certain defense will be stressed in the Rider game.

Other than the turnovers, I was glad to see Wall and Bledsoe work so good together … 2 point guards and 2 scoring guards … Patterson/Cuz – - nuff said

I’m happy to be 3-0 …. GO CATS!!

by ukcris on Nov 20, 2009 5:08 AM EST reply actions  

Patterson

is not playing comfortably yet, I still saw him forgo some outside looks in the Miami game and he definitely looks more comfortable with his back to the post. He looked a little frustrated tonight but nobody works like that guy. With all respect to you Tru, I think his stat-line isn’t spectacular in view of what I think it will be later in the season. Bledsoe and Wall looked so much more in sync today don’t you think? They still seemed to force some stuff, but it was night and day compared with the Miami game. Demarcus will also get much better, I think he hustled hard today but I think he’s still got more in him. Miller or Dodson or Hood needs to get going…he looked better today, but Bledsoe was a more effective 3 today than Miller.

by Byron on Nov 20, 2009 5:53 AM EST reply actions  

Also

Daniel Orton is a baller…

by Byron on Nov 20, 2009 5:55 AM EST up reply actions  

We are playing at or above our potential offensive level already,

but we have no defense. Turnovers were not a problem, because we scored so much, but they can become one in the future unless we really get after it on D. I, myself, like Tru, have never seen such 3-pt shooting in my life. And the really scary part was, we shot a better % from the 3 than they did.

I have seen teams live and die by the 3 before, but geez. We held them to right at 20% I believe inside the arc, but I am not sure that you can extend your defense 25 ft out from the rim. The only way I can see of doing that is to press constantly, and then you have the problem of giving up big shots when guys dont get back on D, so I fear that wont work. I am glad it is Cal and not me trying to figure this out, because frankly I am stumped. They did get some open shots, but not all of those shots went undefended.

Had I of been Cal, I would have made the mistake of saying they couldnt keep hitting those all night, just keep playing. And I would have been wrong. Maybe we need to work on stretching the defense out a little further, and like Tru said last night, plant Cousins under the basket and dare them to take it inside. That might have worked against SHS, or Miami, but it wont cut it when we see Miss St or some of the other better teams with an inside game. Maybe the teams have all seen something in the tapes, I dont know, but I can say this, we have two of the best offensive guards in the country right now, and we have got to turn them into two of the best defensive guards soon.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 20, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions  

They were

getting a lot of threes on coverage switches off screens or when two SHS guys crossed each other. So that can definitely improve. You’re right about the inside the arc coverage though, I wonder how much of that had to do because they had so many looks outside?

All in all, it’s fun to watch them play, but I think they’ll get much better. The defense was sloppy.

by Byron on Nov 20, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope not

Their OEF ranking is 124th right now. I think that can substantially better than that.

by sylvar on Nov 20, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

You...

talked about how MIller left more to be desired, but Harris did great things? What a joke.

Harris is an outstanding player, for Campbellsville. He is nothing more than a time filler for us.

Remember the post I put up months ago?

 Ramon Harris gets 10 minutes?Over/Under

So far you are right with him getting 12.5 a game, but make no mistake, it is only because we have to play him. He is horrible. I’d rather see Krebs in the game than him.
With him in the game, it might as well be 5 on 4. Yea, defense is good, but if you only have 4 offensive players, you might as well lay over and let ’em have their way with you.

Can not wait til he is gone.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.
Are you NORML?

by the spork on Nov 20, 2009 7:48 AM EST reply actions  

scoring is not the only way a player can contribute

Ramon did just fine on what he suppose to do, which is intense defense and getting rebound.

And what with you bashing a player who put so much heart on court?

by khlim2 on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

What with me bashing a player who put so much heart on the court?

I could put that much heart on the court. I don’t care how much heart you put out there, and neither does any other real UK fan. How much skill can you put on the floor.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.
Are you NORML?

by the spork on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it was different last year

Last year we only had two offensive players, Patterson and Meeks. Others got some buckets, but not as consistently as those two.

Ramon is smart enough to know that when he is on the floor, he is surrounded by a veritable Special Forces of offensive weapons. He can score, but he has no reason to, because the others are the better option.

Ramon is an outrageous defender, you put him on someone, and they get shut down. He’s the Trevard Lindley of this team. Every team needs role players that do something great, Harris is a defensive role player. If a team has a hot hand, put Ramon on ’em and they lose it for a while. Also, because he knows he does not have to be asked to score, he can give everything on the defensive side of the court.

I felt the same way that you did, but then I went back and watched a replay. Instead of focusing on the ball, I watched Ramon, his defensive play is a thing of beauty. Try it some time.

by aidanpryde18 on Nov 20, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

bingo...

with the other offensive weapons, we do not need a 5th player that is a scorer, we need someone focused on bringing the defensive intensity.

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Nov 20, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

If

you can’t put more skill than Harris on the court, then who are you to be so outraged by his effort and performance? Coach Cal is happy with him and I will take his opinion over yours any day. Easy to sit on a couch and be critical. Get a life.

by kywineman on Nov 20, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You have to have strong bench play

and Ramon always plays hard. No, he didn’t score tonight but the team scored 102 points.
This team is not in dire need of him to score like last years team. Your entitled to your opinion, but I and most people here certainly are not going to agree with it. That was quite unusual for the bench not to score and it probably wont happen again. Five boards in ten minutes is pretty strong by the way.

by Grasslands1 on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

He put plenty of skill.

Calipari sang his praises after the game. Maybe you should quit being such a hater.

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 20, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you read ...

this comment?

Regarding Harris:

So far you are right with him getting 12.5 a game, but make no mistake, it is only because we have to play him. He is horrible. I’d rather see Krebs in the game than him.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 20, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Harris is the best defensive player on the team

Last year he continually was placed on the other team’s best scorer, and it wasn’t by accident. That is one thing that Billy G did right.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Nov 20, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

everytime Harris got on his toes last night, SHS had to change what they were doing

he defended better than our starters for the most part…..he just wasnt hitting his shots….I think he only took two though….

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 20, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd give him 15 minutes a night

On top of his D he can rebound. With Wall/Cousins/Patterson etc, he doesn’t need to score.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Nov 20, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I Did

I think that poster is critical of Harris because of who recruited him to UK.

Harris was 4-time state champion in Alaska and POY there as HS senior, making Gatorade HS A-A team.

Certainly worthy of a basketball scholarship IMO.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 21, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Harris

ARe you serious? I don’t agree with you at all. Harris is exactly what this team needs defensively. He is the only one on this team that is sticking to his guy outside the 3 pt line. The only time his man hit a three was when there was a switch or lack of communication. He may not have the offensive production of the others on this team but he is exactly what these freshmen better try to emulate on defense. All he is doing is what Cal asks him to go in and do. We need more of that. I love seeing this fast pace system but it is a joke seeing these guys full out sprint down on offense and then lag behind not getting back on defense. I’m not saying Harris should play as much as the starters, but he is a leader on the defense end and if he can do that 10 to 15 minutes a game that is just what this team needs.

by cthom on Nov 20, 2009 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Defense...

isn’t special, atleast when you are that height. Harris plays decent D, but he is highly overrated, overall. If you don’t see it, I apologize for your deficiency.

The Spork, I'm two things in one.
Are you NORML?

by the spork on Nov 20, 2009 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

"I apologize for your deficiency"....

what the hell is that. Someone else is in some way lacking just b/c they have a different opinion. God forbid you keep it at a civilized discussion. Comments like that are exactly the reason I visit regularly but hardly ever post @ ASoB anymore.

The majority of the people on here seem to be really good people and obvious fans of UK…..but the % of people that want to always attack gets to hard to stomach.

by wldcatsfreak on Nov 20, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I suggest the gentleman re-read ASOB’s guidelines
http://www.aseaofblue.com/pages/community-guidelines
especially One and Two.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Nov 20, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed, again

I think this is out of line. Slamming one of our players like that is tacky and rude, and not to mention, in this case, apparently the complete opposite of what the coach thinks (“We had one guy that I thought did a really good job out there and that was Ramon Harris. I thought that he talked, defended and rebounded well.”) And opining about what “real fans” think (coincidentally—just what he thinks!) is one of the most ridiculous and eye-roll inducing comments possible. But I do believe “I apologize for your deficiency” is an actual guideline no-no, and definitely not in the spirit of the site.

by blue kentucky girl on Nov 20, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Calipari Praised Harris

Somehow, I think Calipari >>> The Spork when it comes to evaluating basketball talent and effort.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 21, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Quote

On Ramon Harris…
"The guy who has done the best job right now is Ramon (Harris). Ramon talked and rebounded. In his time, he had five rebounds. He got what we needed. I’ll be honest, if he made a shot or two, he’d be playing 20 minutes a game."

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 21, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Harris plays hard every single time

he is on the court. He has a very good all around game. His scoring might be weak at times but he has been a plus on this team IMO.

by Grasslands1 on Nov 21, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone should be

Michael Jordan, so in that sense, Ramon falls a little short, but in an overall strategy, if the offense is getting a lot of points…a small defensive boost makes a difference, so Cal played him 12 minutes and got his effect. If you want to criticize so easily, l wouldn’t leave Krebs out. By your standards, the only people deserving to play were Patterson, Cousins, Wall and Bledsoe. People may rave about Ramon a bit too much, but they are just trying to be positive for their guy. If you’re complaining because everyone on the team isn’t a top 10 recruit….then you’re at a level of irrationality on par with ex girlfriends.

When defense is hurting, and you put in someone that does above average D, sorry, it is special. I apologize for your deficiency.

by Byron on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Harris a great role player for a championship team

Harris as a starter last year was one of 3 wink links. As a bench player helping this team play defense and locking down the other team’s best wing, he is a perfect role player for this defensively lacking team. Harris get rebounds, plays defense and seldom throws the ball away. With at least 3 or 4 great scores around him (Orton is not a great scorer yet), he is more valuable this year than last year.

by JackBluto on Nov 20, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I trust Cal

“We had one guy that I thought did a really good job out there and that was Ramon Harris. I thought that he talked, defended and rebounded well.”

When people are breaking Rupp 3-pt records left and right I’m more than happy to have a defensive specialist on the floor. If it helps conceptually, every time he shuts a hot shooter down, credit him with 3 points. No offense to Mark Krebs, but a couple of those SHS players would have scored much more if he had Ramon’s minutes last night, and we might not have come away with the W.

I will be sad when he graduates.

by DCBlueandWhite on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

These other guys have proved nothing at UK.

Harris’ effort and defense are appreciated by everyone but you.If the “wonder twins” had the same defensive effort, we would not be having a discussion about the close game to also-rans Sam Houston State.

Flash...

by ro307805 on Nov 20, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been saying this for the last 3 years
I don’t know very many people who could stand at 25 feet and shoot 50% unopposed, let alone with other players running at them.

I said this over and over under Gillispie and I already have the sinking feeling that I’ll be saying it again under Calipari. I don’t understand it, but it seems like a reality I may have to live with.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Nov 20, 2009 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

Simple solution

Just tighten the rims.

That’s all I’ve got, because it makes no sense to me either. . .

It's time. . .

by NYCCats on Nov 20, 2009 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree, NYC !

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But I also think that we should look into installing some new rims that we can get from these guys

Hitting 3’s at Rupp should be at least as hard as winning a stuffed teddy bear…. plus, our guys could still dunk it pretty easy!

by Sonic on Nov 20, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Reminds me of a Dateline from the 90's

They took a kid from Vandy, can’t remember his name, who was the best free throw shooter in the country, to a carnival. They had him shoot at those games, and he still missed most of them. That’s when I realized, I was probably 7 at the time, that people were out to get your money and they would do whatever they could to secure the odds. I think the rims on those games are barely bigger than the ball, definitely smaller than regulation size rims.

It was an interesting show, they had a pitcher do the milk can game, and a darts player hit balloons. They all sucked.

by aidanpryde18 on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Defending the 3 ball...

As stated above, some of it is lack of communication on the switches, some of it’s being a half-step out of position, etc. Some of those errors are correctable by the coacing staff, but some of it is based on effort and heart also.

Don’t expect this to fixed overnight! Cal’s doing alot of teaching at the moment and he’s between the devil and the deep blue sea on this. I’m sure he’s painfully aware of the need to defend the 3 point line, but he’s also trying to teach his offense to the team. So, put yourself in his shoes and try to prioritize what needs to be fixed first… Tough call, huh?? Look at our schedule for the next week or so… Rider tomorrow, Cleveland State on Tuesday, Stanford/Virginia on Wednesday, kids are gone for a day or so for Turkey Day break and then we’re back on the next Monday with UNC Asheville. Not alot of time for practice (especially when you consider travel time back and forth to Cancun) in there, so again, what takes priority?? I don’t envy Cal having this problem…

Also keep in mind that he’s trying to teach top-tier D-1 defense to 6 freshmen who, before this point, only thought about defense as something that happened when their team didn’t have the ball! I stated this in an earlier post, but I wouldn’t sweat this too much right now… If it’s still happening in January, then we’ve got a problem!

Bottom line, we’ve had two very respectable ball clubs come in to Rupp and shoot lights out! But, we walked away with wins in both and that’s what really counts…

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 AM EST reply actions  

Only

in Kentucky is winning not enough. I really have little patience with all of these next morning coaches criticizing every play as if they could play or coach better than these guys. People, we WILL lose some games. It is all part of the learning process. Get over it and enjoy the up tempo pace we are being treated to. Remember some of the early games in the Pitino years when we lost high scoring games but that is almost better than winning the painfully dull and slow affairs we have had for the last several years. This team will be awesome by tournament time.

by kywineman on Nov 20, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly

I don’t know how many people are members of Coach Cal.com, but Matt Jones of KSR had a great post on there about enjoying the good parts, because those are what we’ll remember .

by aidanpryde18 on Nov 20, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Lack of communication on defense

That seems to be the biggest problem. No communication, switches happen late, leads to open shooters.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

We Won!!

Amazing how quickly so many have forgotten that in any of the last 3 years, we would probably have lost both those games.

Did both teams shoot lights out?? YES but we won and that’s the point many don’t seem to recognize.

The reason both teams shot so many 3’s against us is we played pretty good defense otherwise. SHS couldn’t really run any interior plays and was left with only the 3 as their offense.

Give both of those teams credit for how they shot but remember there isn’t a lot of pucker factor on that kind of shot if you’re not expected to be close in the game. Remember also that we have a VERY young team and Coach C is probably spending the majority of practices on the DDMO. Did we switch or communicate like we should on the 3’s? NO but that should come as we get into the season.

Harris…..stunned that anyone would say Harris didn’t play a good game, kid always seems to leave everything out there he has.

Cousins….hustled from beginning to end and yes made some mistakes but realized he was playing against smaller guys and took advantage.

Wall & Bledsoe…..2 freshman which tons of talent but still freshman. OF COURSE they’re going to make stupid turnovers but if they get just a little better everygame…..WOW what a set of guards we’ll have going into the tournament.

Patterson……great game and still working on being comfortable facing the basket but he’s still THE MAN.

Miller…..playing better and getting more comfortable. Needs to use his size inside more but another weapon.

Doghouse……well I’m sure Coach C has his reasons but he’d better start working on getting the bench involved because we were gassed at the end of that game and with the team he has….we shouldn’t be gassed against anyone. If Harrleson, Dodson and Liggins can’t play aganst SHS….they sure won’t be playing against UNC and UCONN.

My big concern really is that this team is sooooo talented that they seem to be trying to get by with just their talent and that just isn’t going to work against the better teams on our schedule.

by UKlvrJM on Nov 20, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

They certainly were gassed,

but could be Cal’s strategy to get the starters in better shape. Five games in nine days should do the trick. When they get in better shape, it should help their defense. Wall seems to over play and get burned on defense right now. They are really good right now defending inside the 3, at least with the smaller teams they are facing currently. This team will come together and we should be a pretty good defensive team by SEC time.

by Grasslands1 on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Sportscenter

Wall, Bledsoe and Dodson all seem to be trying to get on Sportscenter by being spectacular rather than just making the mundan play. Mundan wins championships either with bounce passes or good D. I think you could be right about this strategy with the starters but not sure I agree with it…….but then again, I don’t get paid the $ he does to coach!!;)

by UKlvrJM on Nov 20, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Cal said last night the guys still think this AAU

“which is for show”, I believe his words were.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Nov 20, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah ...

… and I think he’s right.

Make the simple play, leave the showboating to other teams.

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 20, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

And they have 36 hours to recover... may not be good.

They’re young though. And hopefully the bench will be a little more helpful tomorrow.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Dodson and Liggins

definitely need to get out of the dog house, but I can see why Harrelson and Krebs didn’t get in the game. Both are probably not quick enough to hang with the players that SHS put on the floor.

Dodson and Liggins would have been able to allow us to stick with a smaller, quicker lineup that could defend better without worrying about getting driven on. It is difficult, even for guys with as much talent as Patterson and Cousins to guard the perimeter effectively against a gut that is 6’3" and quick.

I don’t know if this still works for modern players but I like what Bob Knight said when he was calling the UL-Ark. game on Tuesday. He talked about Arkansas having so many players suspended and said that he did not like suspending players from games for team rules violations. He said that it hurt the team as a whole rather than the offending party.

He said that he used to punish rule violators by running them like dogs in practice. Make them pay for their mistakes there, rather than the team getting worn out on the floor because they don’t have a sub.

Interesting to think about.

by aidanpryde18 on Nov 20, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

hahah

I think people are missing the point, there’s a difference between attacking the players and discussing where the team can improve. It’s great to see Kentucky win games we would have DEFINITELY lost last year. These games look more relaxed, we were winning the whole time against SHS and saw where we needed to improve. Even the players saw that. I don’t think anyone will disagree that this team will get much better, it already has gotten better in three games.

by Byron on Nov 20, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Hope

you didn’t mean me there. I’ve only seen one guy “attacking” the players and how you could attack Harris is beyond me but maybe Harris stole his girlfriend……who knows.

 I agree discussing areas of improvement is what Monday (Friday) morning quarterbacking is all about…..and it’s sooooooo much fun!!!:) I just think I’m seeing some hand wringing over things that SHOULD get better as the season progresses and as someone said last night, they can score 100 every game as long as we score 101 and it’s soooooooooooo much more fun watching than the past few years.

I’ve actually watched ALL of these games and I don’t know that I watched ALL of any game Gillispie coached!!!!!;)

by UKlvrJM on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh and...

thank goodness I don’t have to get up at 5:30 am to see Saturday’s game. All I have to do is cancel my Saturday night.

by Byron on Nov 20, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

I'll be glad when we play a game where an opponent doesn't go David on us

Two in row!!! Geese.

Like folks have said, you can’t easily defend 3’s, slung five feet from behind the arc. If Miami and SHS shot their average 3pt percentage, both games would probably have been blow outs.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

looking over the box score...

our bench didn’t score one point last night. that’s kind of scary, but also shows a very solid starting five. i’m sure this will improve going forward

by chstrckwl on Nov 20, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

i should hasten to point out that the reserves did lots of other good things, like orton getting four blocks.

by chstrckwl on Nov 20, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

All this worrying about the reserves is nonsense. They have already shown that any

or all of them can contribute when called upon. The reason we didnt see much of them last night is simple. Cal wants these guys to learn from their mistakes against a team we can still beat and have problems with. We are going to have to be patient with these freshmen.They will learn how to pick up on the switches and roll off of the picks. And every man on this team is contributing. Knocking Harris is no different than knocking Harrellson or any other sub. If they couldnt play, they would not be there. We knew when this recruiting class showed up that they were starters and not reserves. Even for all of his problems last night, Jon Hood learned. And right now that is what they need to do, learn. we have a team that has already scored over 100 pts twice in the first few games of the season. When did we do that last? Yes, our perimeter defense sucks right now.
But we will learn to do better. Is no one seeing how this team just refuses to let anything shake their confidence

John Wall can have 10 turnovers in a game and still come down the floor and weave through 4 guys and beat you with the winning shot. Bledsoe can throw the ball up from almost anywhere and still get it to go in the rim. Cousins was indeed a “beast” last night. Where does anyone think this team will be in a few weeks or a couple months???

We are watching something special here people. Yes, there are going to be a few snags along the way, and we might even get beat a time or two. But this team and all of its players down to the last man are winners. They will walk up to you and slap you in the face and dare you to come back at them every time they walk onto a court. Don’t spoil what is going to be a magical season by griping about how some players just arent as good as others, or how badly someone missed an assignment. They will get better every game. They cannot fail, because they dont know how. Even the kids that were here last year can sense this. Someone asked if the kids last night held grudges against the new guys because they were not playing. If these guys give us the best chance to win, and I will bet my next paycheck they do, then no one is going to complain. Dodson sat there last night and took his medicine. You think another 3 pt shooter could have helped us? Sure he could. No one is complaining, not even to their “inside sources” or we would have heard rumblings by now. These kids love playing for this guy, and he makes the games fun to watch, and we are winning…..we have had our VMI for the year and they went home with an “L”. Nuff’ said. I have never been this confident about a team since 1996…….and I wasnt this confident about them until about halfway through the season. This team is going to make a lot more mistakes, but they are also going to overcome them all. Have fun watching it……quit whining about what you “think” we don’t have and be grateful for what we do.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 20, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

never satisfied

Uk’s fans will never be satisfied. I mean, we ran off Tubby Smith, who did a fine job, just could not catch a break in the tournament (ie: Bogans trying to check Dwayne Wade with a broken ankle). Now we are hating on players? Please. You would think this overkill of media would satiate the need to fuss about UK, but no, even more complaining. I almost long for the days of Cawood Ledford on the am radio, three tv stations with snow, and the Daily Independant being my source for Wilcats news. I never saw even Joe B. Hall scrutinised to this level. Even after blowing a 20 point lead to Georgetown in the final four! These guys are kids, young men at best,I want to enjoy their’s and the teams developement right along with them, and win or lose, root for the Cats!

Flash...

by ro307805 on Nov 20, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No One Ran Anyone Off

Coaches make changes on their own (sometimes).

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 20, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

No 20-Point Lead

UK’s biggest lead in the 1984 championship game was 12 points and 7 at halftime (27-20). I was in Seattle, saw it all and the second half (3/33 shooting) is still a painful memory.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 20, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Note to young Cat fans

If you are too young to have seen the 1984 game against Georgetown (I don’t think it was the championship final — maybe the final four semifinal?) you don’t know how painful a game can be. Worst ever.
(comparing to Laettner shot is apples & oranges. Laettner shot was a dagger in the heart; game outcome was a dagger; but UK was awesome in that game. G-town game was infernal misery.)

by Gobe Igbloo on Nov 20, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That was probably the 2nd game I remember actually watching and caring about

The first was the first “dream game” against UL the year before. Talk about crappy early memory formation. . .

It's time. . .

by NYCCats on Nov 20, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You're Correct

It was the semis but to me it was the NC thus the excruciating flashbacks. Houston beat Cavaliers in other semi.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 20, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

All true ABC, and it wasn't like Cal didn't warn everybody.

He said they would concentrate on offense first and defense second. I do believe he will start pushing the defense very hard now though. Offensively, we look pretty good, but that is the talent we have. Cousin’s will get stronger with the ball while Wall and Bledsoe will realize that this isn’t high school and you have to be under control more. They certainly are fun to watch and I am going to enjoy the ride.

by Grasslands1 on Nov 20, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

We will be OKAY ....

Cal has promised a better team by Christmas. I can wait……UK basketball is fun … AGAIN….. I am enjoying this like I haven’t in a long time, because the team is having fun. :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Nov 20, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

we are a better team right now a2.....

we just have to make it all gel perfectly…and it will…..and it is going to be so much fun when it does

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 20, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is so much fun now ....

a lot of whining and griping just really bugs me, sometimes. It is one of my flaws, I guess. :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Nov 20, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

well, all these 3's are making people nervous, as well as the turnovers

but again, its like the man said, it is to be expected. You think that UCONN or UNC didnt look at the statline from last night and said to themselves “they hit how many 3’s and lost???”

I will gripe when it’s time and if it’s necessary….right now it is neither.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 20, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe all the "hate" talk

just has me bonkers today. Opponents can hate us if they choose, but we fans should never hate our players. NEVER EVER !!

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Nov 20, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Try not to let it bother you. : )

It’s unfortunate that some people hang all their hopes and dreams in the world on the shoulders of 18 year old kids and I find it, well, for lack of a better word, pathetic. I wish they would get a life, get other hobbies or something — anything to alleviate the hatred towards kids who really are trying. They are all competitors for goodness sake and want to win just as much as we want them to, probably more so.

I would sincerely hope that the players have thick enough skin to let most of the disparaging remarks (whether that is internet chatter or words they hear in person) roll right off. Yeah, the players are out there playing ball for the school and getting a free education in the process, but my goodness, to have ones livelihood and ones mood revolve around what so-and-so either does or doesn’t do on any given night is ridiculous. Criticism, yes, but to make the players the object of rage if someone’s expectations are not met is so sad.

by BigSkyCat on Nov 20, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks BSC,

I really try to ignore comments like those above, but occasionally I find I cannot. Sometimes I HAVE to say something.
I am tougher than that, I know !! :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Nov 21, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, it's November

The defense looks useless, it really does. And yet, I’m not worried. When we are losing a game by double figures, I’m not worried. It’s like 1996.

by Gobe Igbloo on Nov 20, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Reminds Me Of Drivers Ed

I still have vivid memories of teaching my two sons ( 3 years separation) to drive. I purposely chose a stick shift car with the thought being it would be fairly easy to move up to automatic transmission. We began in a large convention center parking lot populated only by light standards and during off hours. It was a process that took quite a few hours and much consternation on part of teacher and student. At some point I decided there was enough progress to allow street driving but in the same area and minimum traffic. At some point we had to venture into real driving conditions and ultimately the time when you handed them the keys and stepped away. Complicating the process and exacerbating the difficulty was that I was attempting to impart knowledge to a teenage male who already knew practically everything. Fortunately it all worked out reasonably well with only a few minor mishaps but no injuries and only mildly increased insurance rates.

I perceive Coach Calipari to be in a similar situation but with the added challenges of ingrained bad habits, hyper-inflated egos, unwanted outside influence and the microscopic focus of a fanatical audience in the 24/7/365 glare of media spotlight – and if that wasn’t difficult enough – he has to meld individuals into a cohesive unit while dealing with substantial individual disparities.

The drivers ed experience took weeks. Surely Calipari deserves as long to prepare the Cats to perform in the complicated and competitive environment of D1 basketball – equivalent to navigating the California freeways.

As for the Harris discussion, I tend to side with the spork – although his judgment was a tad harsh – that Harris is a time-filler for the moment and that his playing time will lessen as season progresses and younger players mature.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 20, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

What we all wanted was to be able to flip a switch, and have a virtually entire new team.

But what we got after flipping the switch was a virtually entire new group of players.

If Coach Cal can coax, prod and shape this group to the point where the whole of the team is greater than the sum of the individual parts, by the time the NCAA Tournament starts… well, I don’t think we will lose very easily, if at all. The talent level really is that encouraging.

by Sonic on Nov 20, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Rebounding Turnovers

here is my biggest compaint (other than the perimeter defense which has already been beaten to death) – Why can’t anyone hold on to their rebounds? Is a weak little slap on the wrist all it takes to knock the ball out of Cousins hands unders the basket? I love Boogie’s play last night, but damn if he doesn’t have the same weak grip that Stevenson had his freshman and sophomore years.

Stevenson – Teach that behemoth how to hold on to the DAMN BALL!!!!…LOL
Ohh… and Harris – Dont think I didn’t see yours too.

GO BIG BLUE!!

by bluebloodtoo on Nov 20, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

"What we have heah is a failyuh to communicate",

or at least to recognize that team defense and DDMO have fundamentally different underlying philosophies. One requires anticipating what your teammate is going to do several seconds ahead. The other requires maximizing one’s own talent advantages and only as a last resort getting others involved.

Before you start throwing eggs at the dinosaur, let me put my walker aside and turn up my hearing aid and explain that I’m not opposed to Coach Cal putting in any offense that will produce quality wins. That’s what he gets paid for, and he knows a heck of a lot more about coaching than I do.

What I’m really saying is that it will take time for the recent high school graduates to learn to make the mental shift required between the two ends of the floor. Call it maturity, synergy, chemistry, whatever. It takes time to learn to play as a team. That’s why the A-TO ratio sucks and the team defense stinks.

Patience, Grasshopper.

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Nov 20, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

And, oh, yeah,

if you don’t know how to RUN a pick-and-roll, you probably won’t DEFEND it too well. Sorry.

No moral victories--it's all about Ws and Ls!!!

by oldcat'69 on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

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