Defending Kentucky -- Again
Kent Sterling of 1070 TheFan in Indianapolis went and defended his unethical rant against Kentucky basketball again the other day. The comment system on their blog is irretrievably broken, so I will make my response here. Thanks to Bluegrass State Basketball for bringing it to my attention.
Sterling makes the following points about the arguments that UK fans apparently threw back at his original piece:
1: Racism before 1970 is okay because everyone was a racist back then
2. Cheating is okay because everyone does it
3. Winning is the most important thing in college basketball
4. John Calipari bears no responsibility for UMass or Memphis issuers that led to their Final Four appearances being stricken
I'll take those on, plus the rest, after the jump.
- Racism before 1970 is okay because everyone was a racist back then.
Racism was never okay, but the charge of racism against Adolph Rupp is both unfair and largely inaccurate. I would also point out that there is nobody associated with Adolph Rupp's regime currently in the UK leadership, and we have had a black basketball head coach and will shortly have a black football head coach, one of relatively few FBS schools in America who can say that.
Is Mr. Sterling really willing to demonstrate the same loathing for everyone in America who had views back in the 1950's and before we would consider racist now? I do wonder if his own attitudes, assuming he was alive back then, would survive the same scrutiny?
Does the passing of time and changing of attitudes mean nothing? Even if we uncritically accept his assertion that UK was institutionally racist in the Rupp Era (which I don't), why is his scorn reserved only for Kentucky and not include other schools around the land who had the same problem at the same time? That's unfair, and unfair always equals unethical. - Cheating is okay because everybody does it.
This is a case of Mr. Sterling twisting the words of his commenters. What most of the commenters were really saying is, "Why single out Kentucky for cheating when many other schools have cheated also?" That is not the same thing as Mr. Sterling accuses them of. Sterling is being unfair again.
Cheating is always reprehensible and unethical, and Kentucky has done more than its share of cheating. But Mr. Sterling is saying that UK's past cheating, which is 20 years in the rear-view mirror, mean that it will cheat again and intends to do so with John Calipari. That is not only the logical fallacy known as the "Gambler's Fallacy," but it is intentionally unfair to UK and imputes ill intent not whatsoever in evidence. The cheaters were fired and replaced. UK has been clean a long time. How is this not a credit to UK, rather than a warning sign? Kent Sterling cannot tell us, because his only interest is in attacking Kentucky, not decrying cheating. - Winning is the most important thing in college basketball.
It absolutely is. That is demonstrable by the fact that so many institutions pay millions of dollars to coaches to win games. Vince Lombardi's famous quote, "If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" would seem to apply. That does not mean winning by any means is defensible. It does not mean that graduating players (something Calipar's record is very strong on) does not matter. It does not mean cheating is okay as long as you win and don't get caught.
But the money tells the tale. Should it be that way? No, in my opinion. But even if Sterling and I may not like it, it is a fact. - John Calipari bears no responsibility for UMass or Memphis issuers that led to their Final Four appearances being stricken.
Responsibility cannot exist without control, or where deception exists (this obviously does not include self-deception or incompetence). In the case of UMass, Calipari was deceived by Camby, and his association with agents carefully hidden from the coach and the school. When Calipari found out, he reported Camby's actions to the NCAA. Calipari faithfully discharged his duties as coach in this case, and is innocent of wrongdoing. Mr. Sterling's attempt to paint him as being responsible regardless of the circumstances is again unfair, and hence, unethical.
In the Rose case, the NCAA assumed responsibility for the qualification of Derrick Rose to play college basketball by its establishment of the NCAA Clearinghouse. Rose's alleged cheating happened before he enrolled at Memphis, and before Coach Calipari could fairly be assumed to have control of the player, not to mention the fact that the alleged cheating occurred in Detroit, not in Memphis.
If Memphis had been responsible for determining the veractity of college entrance exams for student athletes, some responsibility might be rationally imputed to Memphis and Calipari. Since the NCAA assumed that responsibility for itself, neither Memphis nor Calipari can be held in any way responsible for Rose's alleged misconduct, and the NCAA findings do not find that Memphis behaved improperly -- rather, they applied the doctrine of strict liability, rendering a finding of responsibility irrelevant.
The fact that the NCAA did not implicate John Calipari in either case is further proof that they understand what a coach should be responsible for, even if people like Sterling apparently don't.
Sterling goes on to say this:
Thanks to the people of Kentucky for the education. Situational ethics should be embraced, and hating people because of the color of their skin is acceptable when everyone else thinks it. Okay, I've seen the light. I'm ready to move to Kentucky and erect signs welcoming others to the Blue Grass State - "Now Entering Kentucky - Proud Home of Racists (prior to 1970); Ethics Conveniently Optional".
You know, I don't think I need to point out what is wrong with this paragraph, but I will anyway. There is a verse in the Bible that says, "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
Before commenting on the ethical faux pas of others, it's fairly important you make sure you are not doing so in an unethical manner. Sterling's two diatribes violate many tenets of ethics, not the least of which is fairness, civility, self-restraint, equity, forgiveness and a process that fairly looks at all sides of the issues on which he is commenting.
Sterling's sarcasm, deliberately fallacious reasoning and lack of enabling virtues (fairness, civility, self-restraint, equity, forgiveness, etc.) display the complete failure of his own ethics in this article. His comments are intentionally vile, and should be rejected by reasonable sports fans.
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Adolph Rupp
Had a black player STARTING on his Freeport (IL) HS team in the late 1920’s when racism was widespread here in Illinois.
Was responsible for UCLA’s Don Barksdale becoming the first black (USA) Olympic basketball player in 1948 – Rupp convinced the decision makers to add Barksdale to the roster.
Regularly assisted black Kentuckians in getting athletic scholarships in the 1950’s (case in point, Jim Tucker at Duquesne) when such opportunities were pretty rare indeed.
Often coached black players on all-star teams in 1950’s and 1960’s.
Was the first SEC or ACC or Big 8 (major southern conferences) basketball coach to offer a scholarship to a black player – Westley Unseld in 1964.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know, every time someone quotes Frank Deford we end up having to take a
boatload of nonsense about something that “may or may not” have happened. Personally, after hearing as many stories as I have about Coach Rupp, I am still at a loss for explaining the remark that Deford “supposedly heard”. I don’t think it was done, but knowing how Rupp used to get after the team when they were dogging it, maybe it did happen. What I find hard to believe is that after the man is dead and gone, we still have to listen to this crap. I know one thing is for certain about Adolph Rupp, he cared about one thing and one thing only, and that was winning basketball. And it didnt matter if you were red, white, black or green, if you could help him do that, he wanted you on his team. This “individual” on that site can’t even form complete thoughts without saying something off-color, or demeaning to women, and I for one have heard all I care to hear from him. I was one of the people that responded to his original post, much to my chagrin, because I need to have my head examined for giving the man the traffic on his site.
We have hashed through all of this before, and I know we are not perfect here at Kentucky. But you know what, this is about as perfectly imperfect as it gets. I hope he’s happy in Indiana, and stays there.
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 15, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You may be violating the first law of blogging
Give no credence to the trolls that fish in the waters of your interest. Their OPINIONS are meant as bait to incite, outrage and defame any and all that waste their time to read this garbage.
Trolls are not limited to message boards, blogs or chat rooms but exist in the “mainstream media” in print, video and pixels, i.e. Jeff Goodman, Pat Forde, John Feinstien, Tony Kornheiser, etc. Trolls are also, “in the eye of the beholder”.
In my OPINION, to respond to these types is to “wrestle with a pig”…you’ll only get muddy and the pig likes it. No amount of reason, civility, logic or empathy will move these cretins one bit in their blind, ignorant, rantings for attention.
Tru, I’m sure you, as well as I, have seen this garbage all over the internet message boards as fans of other teams KNOW they can get a tremendous reaction from the Big Blue Nation every single time they post these unfounded allegations. Unfortunately, we seem to always oblige them. I’ve just taken to posting the link to Jon Scott’s site and his article on the issue of Rupp’s “supposed” racism, knowing the troll will never go there (because they don’t really care about truth) but hopefully others may take the time if they are interested in fairness.
Jon Scott is my hero on all things regarding UK Basketball…I even supplied it to Gary Parrish (CBSsportsline) and he acknowledged that it was an outstanding site, so at least he went there.
In summary to my rant, the defense of Rupp against these types is truly a Labor of Sisyphus. You’re welcome to try but I’m not going there anymore.
by MTCAT on Nov 15, 2009 2:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
True, dat.
But I find I can’t resist the attempt. Undoubtedly, it is a character flaw. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 15, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ignore his rants
There’s an old Mayan saying: “If an ass defecates in the forest and everyone walks away… he’s still an ass and he’s stuck with the smell.”
No matter where you're at, there you are
by cincyblue on Nov 15, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Regarding race and Rupp.
Here is what an article in the March 6, 1961 Sports Illustrated said about the SEC regarding the NCAA tournament.:
The SEC, mired in mediocrity, was fumbling to a conclusion, and there was a faint suspicion that Kentucky’s Adolf Rupp may yet have the last laugh — and an NCAA bid. With first-place Mississippi State prepared to withdraw because of its refusal to play against Negroes, the invitation will go to the runner-up.
UK tied for second with Vanderbilt and Florida and did end up receiving the bid and winning against Morehead St. before losing to eventual runner-up Ohio St. The reason UK got the bid was because they beat Vandy 60-59 in their second to last game and Vandy recovered to beat FL 77-60 in their last game.
Rupp obviously wasn’t so racist he wouldn’t play against integrated teams like other Southern schools.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 15, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UK Got SEC Bid Like That 4 Times
1956 Bama refused.
1961, 62, and 64 Miss St or LSU refused.
Same reason all 4 times.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might also add, how dangerous
it would have been for a player of color to have to go to the Southern cities in the U.S. at that time. Rupp knew that and he also knew that the SEC would not let him recruit these players because the other teams would have refused to play UK.
Kent Sterling is in my opinion, not knowledgeable enough to even discuss the history of UK or the SEC, regarding race.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 15, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Jim Crow was in effect until 1965.Rupp was a product of the times.
by -Zoso- on Nov 15, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not So
Rupp was more progressive than the times.
He played or coached blacks 20 to 40 years earlier.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is not fair to call Rupp a racist
but he was no social pioneer either.Rupp gets an unfair rap,and I blame most of it on the 66 Title game.If UK does not play that game,or had won it,little would have been said about it.
by -Zoso- on Nov 15, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He Played Or Coached The Best Players
Regardless of skin color or anything else.
He was prohibited by SEC rule from recruiting black players until 1964.
When that rule was lifted, he recruited them from then on.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Was Texas Western a predominentaty black school?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 15, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No
I lived in El Paso and it is 70% Latino.
by -Zoso- on Nov 15, 2009 6:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it was
70% Latino in 1966 though.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 16, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hello, Mr. Sterling....

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
by btcoop71 on Nov 16, 2009 8:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Another point about Rose
The testing service invalidated Rose’s test score when he took it in Detroit because he failed to respond to a letter sent to his home address rather than to his dorm in Memphis. He never got a chance to defend or answer the allegations because he never got the letter. I imagine his parents probably had the mail bundled up and either waiting for him to come home or when there was enough to forward to him. Either way, they invalidated it because of a lack of response, not because of any evidence other than the score raised a red flag because he passed and he had previously not passed. Once they invalidated the score, the NCAA retroactively declared him ineligible. Who knows what would have happened had he had the chance to engage and defend him self prior to it being invalidated.
This whole process stunk from start to finish and had nothing to do with Calipari. If there were any wrong doing, it was more likely someone within the AAU infrastructure since they have more access to kids prior to them going to college. I still don’t see the logic of blaming Calipari for being responsible for controlling the behavior of a student athlete that he is by NCAA rule limited in being able to be in contact with prior to them coming to his school. I also don’t see how anyone could believe that he could somehow influence whoever was supervising the test that Rose took into doing something flaky without that being brought out as evidence. Its not like Calipari is low profile. I am glad that the original poster brought up the fact that it was Calipari who reported Camby when he found out. I still think the parents of the other 12 guys on the UMass team should sue the NCAA and Marcus Camby to get back what he took from those kids who worked their tails off and have nothing to show for it. How can you punish 12 other players plus the institution, coach and fans of that school for what one ethically challenged individual did.
There has to be more individual punishment rather than the white washing of everyone and everything involved and trying to retroactively change the past. I got news for the NCAA, if they can figure out how to change the past, they are on to something more valuable than March Madness. Also, lets not forget the selective editing of the past. The Duke team and records when Corey Maggette was playing are still in effect. How can that be when he did the same thing that Camby did? Coach K anyone? What about USC and Reggie Bush? If UK had had either of those situations happen in this day and age they would impose the death penalty on the program.
by WCATFAN666 on Nov 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good points, all.
Thanks for the comment.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 16, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The root of racism... and hypocrisy
Sorry to say, I now live in Naptown and often have to hear a lot of crap about my beloved home state and the fans of our beloved Cats. I’m no fan of our past failures, but that doesn’t lead me to throw everyone associated with UK under the bus, especially without knowing all the facts of various situations. I also never wanted to gloat over IU’s debacles with Knight or Davis or Sampson, because I knew that didn’t define IU Basketball or its fans. And let me tell you there were plenty of racist comments made all over Indiana about Davis during his tenure.
Kent Sterling is a sad example of the fact that what causes racism still exists in all its ugliness in our country, often by the people most vociferous against it. Racism, for one thing, is lumping a group of people together and judging them as one. Many thanks to Sterling for exposing that the attitude that fuels racism is still alive and well in Indiana. It will keep me on my toes as I navigate what is, otherwise, a great place to live… as was Kentucky, when I lived there.
by BluebloodinNaptown on Nov 18, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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