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SEC Power Poll Ballot: Week 10

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At this point in the season, there is a lot of jockeying for position down in the lower reaches of the league, but with the division champions settled and only two or three games left, the four and five win teams are striving to earn bowl eligibility, and the better teams are trying to polish their credentials and avoid the late-season upset.

As for Kentucky, well, they are really two SEC wins away from finding themselves firmly in the middle of the pack.  Right now, despite some factors that make them look better on paper than some others, it's hard to put a team with only one SEC win, even a pretty good one, too high.

With all that said, my ballot follows the jump.

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Team cWL W-L bWL SoS MoV PF-PA FBR Next opponent Polls Comments
Florida 7-0 9-0 7-0 47.41 24.9 315-91 2 Florida International 1,[1!] Only 27 points vs. the 'Dores? What can that mean?
Alabama 6-0 9-0 7-0 52.62 19.1 278-106 3 Tennessee-Chattanooga 3,[2!] Too strong for the Tigers this year.
LSU 4-2 7-2 5-2 50.74 11.7 226-121 15 at Mississippi 11,8 Alabama was clearly the better team, but the loss of Scott to a broken collarbone really hurts an already anemic LSU offense.
Auburn 3-3 7-3 4-3 46.42 8.4 350-266 27 Nov 28, Alabama 25,27 Can Aubie rise up and smite the Bulldogs?
Arkansas 2-4 5-4 3-4 49.7 9.4 320-235 34 Mississippi State
On a roll at the end of the season.
South Carolina 3-4 6-4 4-4 44.86 0.9 213-204 38 Nov 28, Clemson 42 Another late-season swoon for the Gamecocks? Sure looks that way.
Georgia 3-3 5-4 4-4 48.67 1 244-235 41 Kentucky
Mauled the Golden Eagles, but Richt really needs an SEC scalp.
Mississippi 2-3 6-3 2-3 38.54 14.1 269-142 54 LSU 39,38 Ole Miss once again shows a less than stout defense against an FCS foe.
Tennessee 2-3 5-4 2-4 46.08 13.2 289-170 42 Vanderbilt 37,35 Has Crompton actually learned to throw the football? This could be trouble for Tennessee's foes.
Kentucky 1-4 5-4 2-4 48.83 4.4 244-204 36 at Georgia
Easy game could not have come at a better time for the traveling M.A.S.H. Unit that is the Kentucky Wildcats.
Mississippi State 2-3 4-5 2-4 55.59 2.3 242-221 60 at Arkansas
Open date
Vanderbilt 0-6 2-8 0-7 40.47 -5.8 167-225 108 at Tennessee
At least with Spikes on the bench, the 'Dores didn't have to wear eye guards. But it didn't help their offense.

 

Your comments, as always, are welcome and encouraged.

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are you picking on Tennessee? You have them below Georgia and South Carolina which they soundly beat. ESPN SEC power poll has them at number four in the SEC.

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 10, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because ...

… They were even lower in my ranking till I moved them up. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Admitted Redundancy

First, and again, Vols today are the 3rd best team in SEC and it’s no closer than last week. Second, how do you put MSU behind UK a team they defeated in Lexington. Third, I’m surprised that a person with your usual objectivity – when UK isn’t involved – has such an obvious anti-Orange bias. Was it an orange mobile above your crib? Perhaps an orange pacifier? A bad experience with a orange Tootsie Pop?

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 10, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You are wrong on all counts.

Tennessee is not the third best team in the SEC. That is a fact that I consider indisputable. Their record removes all doubt.

How do you put 5-4 UT with only two SEC wins above others with better records both in the league and overall?

You give absolutely zero, bupkis, nada justification as to why UT should be higher.

As to MSU, their record isn’t as good as UK’s. Also, they got crushed by Auburn (a team UK beat), and barely defeated Vanderbilt. In other words, they’ve beaten nobody. UK has.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Note The Emphasis

It’s not indisputable that UT is third best because I dispute it. The reason i justify Vols as #3 is because as of this very moment – today – they’re playing better than any teams other than Gators and Tide – surely you’re familiar with the term peaking, it’s rather unanimously considered an important part of the ebb and flow of a team’s performance. I expect the Orange peaking process to continue. MSU beat UK – a nobody according to your valuation – yet UK beat Auburn – obviously in your mind a somebody – which would, it seems, lift UK above the nobody status.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 10, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then I suppose ...

… we will just agree to disagree.

Tennessee is not peaking, in my humble opinion. They have played a couple of good games, and have managed only pedestrian success. They have beaten nobody of consequence, unless you include slumping South Carolina, who has dropped their last three games in a row.

Until they do beat someone of consequence, they cannot rationally be considered to be better than LSU, a team that has beaten every team they’ve faced except the top two in the land. Your argument is built on emotion and guesswork, not reality.

And UK is above nobody status. They are above MSU and Vandy. MSU’s victory over us is less significant than our victory over Auburn.

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

UT

I think that UT is at least the 4th best now. Clearly they weren’t early in the season, but they easily pass the eye test starting with the Alabama game. Their stats and record might not be 3rd or 4th even if they win out, but they sure do play that way now. I don’t think UF would want to see them again.

by GoLightning on Nov 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well ...

… again, I disagree.

But fourth best is a lot more defensible than third best, even though you’d have to elevate them over a team that not only beat them, but has a better overall record (Auburn) and a better conference record.

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Tennessee is not better then LSU and maybe not even Auburn except in one area and that is defense. I do dare to say that Tennessee has the best defense in the SEC. I don’ t have the stats to back that up but that is based on what I have seen with my own eyes. We are going to miss Berry next year.

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tennessee ...

… is third in rushing and total defense. They aren’t in the top five in passing or scoring defense.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not

stats but what I have seen :).

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Who you gonna believe, the stats or your lyin’ eyes? :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

well, they are wearing orange color glasses this time of year :)

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately-

Have to agree with W.Weasel on this one. Clearly, and nobody hates to admit this more than me, Tennessee is on the rise. I think they are peaking at the right time, and are poised to go 8 and 4 in the SEC. I was truly hoping that this would be the year we finally got a win against them, but at this time I say, it is not likely. Please, CATS prove me wrong…

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They may be improving ...

… but until they beat somebody not slumping or named Vanderbilt, you won’t see me singing their praises.

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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

are you

discounting……..that all four losses have been very close and that we have played Flordia and Alabama closer then anyone?

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 10, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Most of our losses have been pretty close.

Does that mean we should be higher? I’m thinking no.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 11, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If

you compare the teams above us then I think its a solid argument.

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 11, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tru: our superhero

Tru, I love your blogs. You are the most unbiased, call them like I see em blogger have ever had the priviedge to read but like all superheros you have your kryptonite……and that is Tennessee. Brother, look at your rankings……..you talk about Tennessee’s record compared to everyone else’s. Well based on the losses they rae in a tie with several teams (SEC). The wins aren’t there because they have played less SEC games. Tennessee has soundly beaten Georgia and South Carolina so how do you have them ranked ahead of them? Tennessee is peaking……..how can you not see that with all due respect. Offense and defense is clicking. Now the true test will be Saturday. I will grant you that. I just have been watching Tennessee for over 14 years now and IHave to say I have not seen this swagger since the 98 championship year.

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well ...

… first of all, thanks for the praise. :-)

Second, here’s how I get this — Tennessee has not shown me that they can beat an SEC team not in the middle of a slump, or just plain weak. They lost at home to UCLA, a team that has no business coming into an SEC stadium and walking away with a win. Tennessee just had a coaching change.

I am skeptical of teams who right themselves mid-season. Show me consistency. If UT takes out Ole Miss in Oxford next weekend, I will become a believer. Right now, I am a skeptic. Consistency is what matters, and UT’s defense has been the only constant they have. Their offense is unbalanced and erratic, their quarterback, despite his recent success, has a history of throwing balls to opponents in big games.

In other words, it takes more than a couple of wins over less than stellar competition and a few close losses to convince me that this team is worthy of a higher ranking. So their offense was decent two games in a row – so what? We saw that from South Carolina, but what happened to them?

Two games in a row do not make a trend.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Post

makes sense. I understand your reasons a little more, but still understand that UCLA was the second game and Crompton who has been jerked around since he has been at Tennessee. I agree, lets see how they handle Ole Miss this weekend. BUT, if they do are you going to validate them?

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 11, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.

How could I not? I don’t hate the Vols. I am from Tennessee.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 11, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

$=Bright Orange Future

UT’s coaching staff is highest paid in NCAA.

For a list of other NCAA programs go here.

"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius

by Wild Weasel on Nov 11, 2009 7:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

By the time UT gets to us , we will be begging

for them to be worse…..Sorry Tru….I have watched almost as much UT football this year as I have the Cats…..they were a FG from beating Bama…..they get better each week,or the competition gets worse, and WHICHEVER it is…they keep on rolling. They have a defensive genius that will only make them tougher as they go on through this season. That staff in 1 year has accomplished as much as Fulmer was getting done after a decade. Even money says they end the season ranked and taking a DEC 31st or later Bowl Game.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 11, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Okay ...

… whatever.

We will agree to disagree.

Your claim that Kiffin has accomplished as much in year one as Fulmer did in a decade is … at best, irrational hyperbole. How many SEC East titles has Kiffin & Co. won, again?

For the record, Fulmer’s teams won or tied for the SEC East title 7 times, won the SEC outright twice, and has a Mythical National Championship. Did Kiffin do more than that in his first year, which, by the way, isn’t even over yet? If so, he is dramatically underpaid.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 11, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually I was comparing Fulmer's last 2 years to Kiffin's first.

I honestly believe that UT will win out…it kills me to say that, but I do. They just seem to improve every week.

I dont mean that to downgrade what Fulmer accomplished, but I do not for the life of me understand that team’s slide the last few years. Kiffin has done a Calipari-esque resurrection of that program since he got there. I do not give all the credit to Lane, because I think his old man is the one really making the progress right now. That defense of theirs is getting tougher and tougher. But he has got that QB starting to hit on all cylinders much like Hartline was before the injury. They have the same depth problem that we do right now, but they do not appear to be facing as many injury issues.

If we beat Tennessee no one will be prouder of the accomplishment than me. But I see that as a tougher hill to climb than Georgia, and Georgia is one serious size mountain itself.

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 11, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Who can understand a team’s slide better than UK fans? :-)

Crompton has had two good games. Let’s see if those were just a hot streak before we anoint him the successor to the Manning Brothers, shall we? :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 11, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's agreed.....but he doesnt have to be Peyton or Eli to beat

the competition he has facing him the next three weeks

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 11, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fulmer

was a great coach for UT. Love him

Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!

by tenken on Nov 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Truz

I always thought the best measure of two teams was head to head. If not, can’t we say Auburn would beat Kentucky in a rematch? I don’t think the win by Mississippi State was anything but the best team winning out. At Lexington, etc.
How many perfect games do you see played, i.e. no penalities, no turn overs?
I see in the USA Today that Missouir threw a bunch of money into their football program and it worked. Maybe we aren’t paying Brooks and Company enough. Where’s all them coal people when we need them?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Nov 11, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree about the head to head thing.

Teams have injuries, bad days, and any number of things that make a head-to-head matchup a poor criteria on which to base where a team should be placed.

I have never subscribed to that theory, right or wrong.

As to your second point, there is a thoughtful piece over at Wildcats Thunder that will be up in the news post around 3:00 today which you should read. I think that the author makes some fine arguments about what the staff needs, and what should be done, if anything.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Nov 11, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't agree with you

Sorry, I disagree. Polls quess where you should be ranked. If you MIGHT be better than someone is better than someone else. Head to head goes straight to the point. My opinion.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Nov 12, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs


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