Mississippi State in the Rearview Mirror
Well, I know we have some pretty unhappy Wildcat football fans around the Commonwealth today, and your humble correspondent is one of them. I truly hate to see UK drop homecoming games to opponents that they should beat (note: that is not a knock against Mississippi St.'s terrific effort yesterday, they were plenty good enough to beat us sight unseen), if only due to home field advantage, but it is what it is. We win one on the Plains, and we drop one to the Dawgs. That's football in the SEC.
So were do we go from here? Well, I think our two coordinators need to do some serious soul-searching about their respective theories of football, and learn to make better in-game adjustments. The coaching staff is an important part of any football team, and in yesterday's game, I think they really let the team down. I could go on and on about this, but I won't, both out of respect to the team and to the fine job that Brooks & Co. have done and continue to do. This just wasn't their finest hour. It happens to us all.
From looking backward to looking forward, we have a much-inferior opponent in Eastern Kentucky University coming in to Commonwealth Stadium next week. With that said, and UK coming off this bitter defeat, I expect the Wildcats to play true to their name versus the Colonels. We'll have more on that later in the week.
But if UK cannot beat Eastern, the rest of this season means little, so I will do the uncharacteristic and look past EKU to Vanderbilt. Vandy just lost what was mostly a pretty competitive game to top 15 Georgia Tech. That game is make-or-break for Kentucky, as the last two games of the season bring us in front of Georgia between the hedges, and hosting a resurgent Tennessee team that crushed South Carolina on Rocky Top yesterday. Not exactly the kind of games, given last night's performance, that inspire confidence.
Let's complete our look behind us with today's news about the game.
- Kentucky postgame notes | Vaught's Views
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Cobb questions UK’s emotion, effort | Vaught's Views
Well, I suppose he can't criticize the coaching like we can. And if this team is whipped physically now, our prospects of more than one more win are significantly diminished. This is a tough stretch, but the 'Cats are teetering on the brink of disaster mentally. The coaching staff too, it seems. Time to man up. -
Kentucky Sports Radio " Blog Archive " Thirty Thousand UK Offensive Coordinators Agree: Moar Cobb Please
Fake Gimel has a look back at the game. -
" Post-game thoughts on loss to Mississippi State John Clay’s Sidelines
John Clay has some very cogent thoughts about yesterday's game. I can't find much to disagree with. -
Cats don't go to Cobb in key situation | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal
In defending the decision not to insert Cobb at quarterback in the fourth quarter, Phillips noted that Newton scored UK's second touchdown of the night on an 11-yard run in the second quarter.
"He's the same kind of guy (as Cobb), just a little more beef," Phillips said.
Oh, puuleaaze. Phillips, there is no excuse for that decision. It was brain-dead. Just own up to it, and have done. Good grief.
Sorry for all the criticism, and I understand that things that look dumb in retrospect sometimes seem like a good idea at the time. All I ask is for people not to defend the indefensible. We all make errors in judgment, it happens. But don't defend errors, admit them, learn from them and move on. Not getting Cobb, the 5th best player in the SEC in all-purpose yards and the guy who led us to victory at Auburn, the ball even once in the fourth quarter barring injury cannot be rationally defended. Period. -
Wildcats get run over | KentuckySports.com
"You've got to give him credit; he ended up being a lot better than we thought," UK defensive coordinator Steve Brown said. "He's a daggone-good back. For someone to be able to rush for that many yards, we've got to take a close look at what we're doing schematically and personnel-wise."
Sigh. Ya think? -
MSU running game whistling Dixon | KentuckySports.com
The offense Mullen called for Meyer at Florida was built on misdirection. On Saturday night, Mississippi State ran counter plays with Dixon repeatedly.
Kentucky couldn't stop it.
"All day. All day. It was unbelievable," Brown said of MSU's success with the counter play. "We didn't do a good job of making it bounce east and west. It seemed like it was always going downhill on us."
Hey, Brown, here's a hint -- try the 4-3 next time -- you know, the defense that served us so well all year? -
UK's 'Wildcat' was on endangered list | KentuckySports.com
"We're in a position where because the Wildcat had been successful, and it wasn't successful tonight, so we decided not to use it," said UK Coach Rich Brooks. "When we don't use it, we open ourselves up to be second-guessed on it. And I can second-guess myself on it as well."
AAARRGGHH! Second guess my gluteus maximus -- let Cobb throw the dang ball out of the Wildcat and it will work fine. Here's a hint, coach -- the only thing that makes UK's Wildcat such a threat is Cobb's ability to throw! -
Two Steps Back, Kentucky falls 31-24 " Ninety Percent Scar Tissue- Ramblings of a Cubs fan
Pretty much hits the nail on the head, if you ask me.
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My son’s fiancee is running in the NYC Marathon and just finished the first 10 miles, following her on Internet from a RF microchip in number tag. Technology is indeed marvelous.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Nov 1, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Congrats! I hope he does well.
I watched that marathon on my one and only trip to NYC. It just happened to be going on the same time I was there for the weekend.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That Would Be "She"
Muchas gracias for the thought.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Nov 1, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. Oops.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love this:
“Well, I know we have some pretty Wildcat football fans around the Commonwealth today…”
I’m assuming you meant pretty SAD or something, but it’s a nice compliment as it stands : )
by blue kentucky girl on Nov 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… “sad” was close. Ah, omitted words. Jerry Tipton would be proud. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL...we will take all the compliments we can get. Right? :-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on Nov 1, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tru, I’m proud of you. Another football column. there maybe hope for you yet!
lol
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
I do the best I can. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The basketball team
plays their first exhibition of the season in less than six hours and we’re still talking about football? My goodness, we’ve had five posts in a row about football! Does no one care about Campbellsville tonight? The fact that we’ll be without John Wall? I mean, the football team doesn’t play again until Saturday! Tru, this is an injustice! I blame your football-centeredness on this blog for us losing out on Irving and Payne. Seriously, with all this football talk, what basketball recruit will want to come here?
Just ribbing you a little, Paris. Everybody loves a curmudgeon.
by Acdixon on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The next thing you know, they will be calling us "fanatics".....lol
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 2, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good onw Acdixon
I like it :-)
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by a2d2 on Nov 2, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joker Phillips
is clueless.
In defending the decision not to insert Cobb at quarterback in the fourth quarter, Phillips noted that Newton scored UK’s second touchdown of the night on an 11-yard run in the second quarter.
“He’s the same kind of guy (as Cobb), just a little more beef,” Phillips said.
Someone posted on a KSR thread about feeling sorry for Cobb, and that he deserves better than the situation he is in— coaching staff included.
I have to say that I agree. As much as I appreciate his herculean attempts at keeping us afloat, it would be nice seeing that kid playing for a contender, in a major bowl game— getting serious national exposure. He would shine.
Instead, he is stuck with us. And Joker.
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully ...
… We will learn from this. By “we,” I mean the coaching staff.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it, Tru
Seriously, I realize that most every profession on the planet affords one the opportunity to continue learning, and growing, but … Rich Brooks is already an old man (by coaching standards :-) , and Joker has already been in the business long enough that he should already know the following without any further learning necessary:
If you have a singular talent, give him the ball.
Seriously, Tru, Joker has gotten on about my last nerve. I wonder how excited Spurrier is at the prospect at matching wits with Joker every year? Talk about a lopsided fight.
I really love that kid, Cobb. Maybe it is time that our coaching staff does something noble, and gives him the chance to move on to a contender for the rest of his career.
FREE RANDALL COBB!
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously ...
… Joker called a great game at Auburn, and a good game against Alabama. So he threw in a clunker here. It happens.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many clunkers a year do they get Tru??
just sayin…..
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quite a few, I would say.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Game at Auburn
It was a great game because Fidler brought in some relief that caused the Tigers to back off the run a bit. But yes the gameplan was alot better and the team worked harder.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not just Joker...
Steve Brown didn’t win any friends or influence any people by sticking with the nickel either… I kept talking to him via the TV, but he wasn’t listening! Maybe I was on the wrong freq?? :-)
If there was ever a time to unleash Cobb with a Wildcat Pass scheme, it was certainly this game! 8 or 9 guys in the box every play?? MSST was just begging us to throw the ball…
And what happened to “The Fiddler”?? Much more of a downfield threat than Newton because Will knows the system better.
Just makes you scratch your head, ya know??
If your wings don't sweep....
by EagleTDL on Nov 1, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I know
My hair is disappearing watching the coaches make mistakes, I was listening to the game and they said Fidler was warming up on the sidelines. I was so ready to hear him come in and then I heard Newton’s name and thought they aren’t gonna bring him in, I mean they aren’t going to bring him in I was in shock WHY WHY? WHY NOT? Did we not get this guy to play QB.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know...
“QB by Committee”, “The Trio”, “Tres Hombres”, whatever you want to call ’em has worked fine up to this point, why go away from what has worked well for you in the past??
Look, I’m all for Newton getting all the reps he can as soon as he can! Can you imagine him as a Jr & Cobb as a Sr?? Should be pretty awesome… But, as Papa B has said, “he’d rather bring experience off the bench” and I can understand that point in regards to Will as a starter. What I don’t understand is not giving Will the chance when he’d done us right in past (see Auburn)?? Mid-way through the 3rd quarter the ground game was stalling, timing was perfect for Will…
Things that make you go “Hmmmm”…
If your wings don't sweep....
by EagleTDL on Nov 1, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree for the most part
Totally agree with you on the point with The Trio QB’s, I thought it was a great plan for the season Newton Starting the Games, Fidler wrapping them up, and Cobb getting time throughout the game. To bad the coaches didn’t feel that way.
I don’t truly agree with getting Newton all the reps at the time he began to get him. After all Hartline and Fidler are Juniors if I’m correct and will be back for senior seasons I suppose. I wanted to see Newton and the other freshmen on a closer level with each other in competition next year. Now Newton should have an advantage good for him I Guess but I would rather have a pure passer and that’s the other freshman.
by UKFever on Nov 2, 2009 7:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, we did not
recruit Cobb to play QB.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see, Miami
or UK to play football or even to attend. I know the girls are pretty in Kentucky, but they don’t wear hot pants there in the winter. Just one of the problems UK faces in recruiting.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question Answered
In the BlogSwap I commented on a question not asked:
Considering the success Mullen has had over the years versus UK defense (talent disparity considered) do you think that translates to this game?
It seems to me the question has been in answered in no uncertain terms.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
even after brookes
we will still have the same coaching philosophies, the same substandard offense play calling. One thing the guys down 64 can look forward to, is the hiring of a new coach. We already know waht we`re in for. More of the same old same old.
by lancea on Nov 1, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bye Week Costs Bama
UT moves up to #2 in AP. Bearcats, Boise, TCU 4,5,6 (Bad news for BCS). Iowa wins but drops a spot behind Ducks.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Nov 1, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The AP
Texas should be in front of Bama they are alot better overall. Bama’s defense might be better but Texas has a lot more balance between offense and defense. Also Texas could probably outscore Florida too. Results will come soon enough for me considering these teams.
by UKFever on Nov 2, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Skies Get Darker
UK’s questionable 2010 recruiting took another hit with the announcement that 4* GA RB Storm Johnson, a prime Cat target, has committed to The U.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Nov 1, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's see, Miami or
UK to play football or even to attend. I know the girls are pretty in Kentucky (I married one) but they don’t wear hot pants in the winter there. Just another recruiting obstacle for UK.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… Miami is also a) ranked this year, b) in an easier league, c) has won multiple national championships and d) has a football tradition few can improve on.
If you are UK and you are in a serious recruiting battle with Miami, you will lose 90% of the time in football. Not in basketball, though. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
....and e)
usually seems to be sponsored indirectly by a Miami based hip-hop artist who knows how to throw some sweet parites!
I left TN and now I am back in the Bluegrass... just in time for Football and Keeneland! Life is great!
by sleepytimetea on Nov 2, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I notice ...
… that the likes of Florida State, Penn State and Tennessee were also recruiting him, and also lost. I think it’s great that UK got as far as they did with him.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact
that that people in the bluegrass are even mad is a very good sign of Kentucky football. Why I say that you ask? Its because you expect better from your team then what they put out last night. I know there has been debate about Kentucky football being forgotten about but its clear to me that its not true. Way to go Cat fans. Keep it up and maybe the team will catch on that they are expected to win :).
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on Nov 1, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow ESPN amazes me yet again
check out this article on espn: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4614692
Apparently, “Hartline hurt his shoulder three weeks ago.”
wow, i mean i get that we’re not exactly florida when it comes to prestige and what not but i mean is it too much to ask of a reporter to at least get the injury that sidelined out starting qb right?
by hummer11092 on Nov 1, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Apparently ...
… it’s just way too much.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Earlier this football season!
I posted here that I wasn’t a football fan. I took several of your advice and have not missed a game. I now say again! UK will never be a football power! They are still playing like they did when I last watched 40 years ago. I am sorry to say that I don’t understand why all of you get so upset when they play this way. Sorry, I will not make the mistake of watching again.
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by oldcat70 on Nov 1, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
Tommorrow night the real CATS start the season!
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by oldcat70 on Nov 1, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's such a delite for you
My opinion is that if you can’t support the blue and white in football you have no business being a fan of the UK basketball team.
by UKFever on Nov 2, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Young Man!
I can say that because most everyone on here is younger than me. I don’t think I need the opinion of a three week member on my right to support a team that I have followed for 60 years! I would wager if I did such that Basketball fans out number football 2 to 1. Now for the record, If UK wanted a football team they would put the same effort into it’s coaches as they did in basketball. Enough said!
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by oldcat70 on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Sir
It’s Fans like you who will not support the football team that keeps the University from putting forth that effort to Bring in a well known coach. Also the basketball team went several years with Smith and that last guy who weren’t known coaches. But at least you aren’t a Duke Fan.
by UKFever on Nov 2, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wake Up!
How can you say that Tubby and Billy weren’t known coaches? What rock did you crawl out from?
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by oldcat70 on Nov 3, 2009 3:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's keep it polite, please.
Thank you. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tru
I expect you read all the posts above your statement. I will not let a post by someone who has been around 3 weeks tell me that I am the reason Uk doesn’t play football! He never even heard of Tubby or Billy. I don’t think I did anything wrong. Thanks
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by oldcat70 on Nov 3, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say you did anything wrong.
I was merely reminding you (and everyone else) to please keep it polite. It doesn’t matter if someone has been here a week or four years, we want to try to be polite to each other.
That’s all I’m saying.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 5, 2009 6:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
basketball and tipton question
my parents still live in lex and said the printed HL had jerry now saying it was ok to chant players names…cannot find it online so did anyone else see it??
if true, man, jerry really has been the boy who cried wolf. after the player chanting and insinuation on PP’s truck, if he really does catch uk in a violation, no one will believe him.
the more i think about it, maybe that is the ultimate just outcome….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Nov 1, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean recruits, or players?
It’s always been okay to chant players’ names, as far as I know.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 2, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
recruits....
see the fan post by WW
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Nov 2, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tipton got schooled by Ms.Bell
he got an e-mail detailing the NCAA by-law…..lol ….He really does look incompetent now….
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 2, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was so hoping for a win
Man I was dissapointed I just knew we were going to pull this out and maybe just maybe get a deceant bowl bid but I guess I will have to hope for next year. All I am asking is can we please beat The VOLS. I have never seen my CATS beat the VOLS in my lifetime . Im telling you if we do you guys will hear my all the way frome Western Kentucky to Lexington : ) lol
by dee z cat on Nov 2, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, if we couldnt take down Miss St. I am not too high on our chances
against a team like UT…..they will be even better than they are right now in a couple of weeks, and they just dismantled SC……we could catch them having an off day I guess, but the Elder Kiffin is not one who is prone to making a lot of mistakes
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