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Is it Hartline, or Is It Memorex?


A large portion of the fanbase has been really quick to give Mike Hartline the brunt of our frustration concerning the Cats and their non-ability to move the ball since week one of the season, myself included. However some of the pundits have come out publicly and stated that our wrath may be misdirected considering the circumstances of this season, so I decided to take a long look at exactly what has been occurring.

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Mark Story, Larry Vaught, and a few others have raised some questions that I think are worth looking deeper into concerning the quality of Hartline's receiver corps, and the play selections that have been made this year so far, and frankly after looking in to this they may have a few valid points.

  1. The receiver corps just is not that talented.
  2. Too many mistakes being made at the line.
  3. Too many blown routes.
  4. Penalties, penalties,penalties.
  5. Hartline has not had enough time to acclamate himself to the SEC and it's speed yet.
  6. The Wildcat formation is not being used enough, or properly when it is used.
  7. Opponents too tough to judge his real capabilities.
  8. Arm Strength, or lack thereof.
  9. Decision making abilities.
  10. Game Plan.

Some of these can be lumped in together so I will attempt to do that first. Numbers 1,3, and 4 are all part and parcel of the same situation. Our receivers are blowing routes, getting flagged for mistakes in formations, and generally not up to the caliber of the secondaries we have seen so far.We do not have enough quality developed receivers yet. And as much as some will not want to hear this, that lies directly at the feet of Joker Phillips. It is his charge to have new talented guys in place when we lose talented players. He has not done that, not even close. Score one for Hartline.

Numbers 2 & 9 all squarely on Mike's shoulders. He is the quarterback of a Div I SEC football team. He must have command of all things in the offense at all times, it's part of the job. He may not be Tim Tebow, but as far as his players and this team goes, he must command the same respect and have the same leadership abilities. And he must accept the brunt of the grief when he fails at this task. It will give him the edge he needs when those guys have to follow him.

I am going to take #8 all by itself. The truth is, I do not believe Mike has the arm strength to carry this club. And honestly, I dont think anyone that has eyes and a brain does either. But that in and of itself is not something we can do anything about at this point. Coach Brooks chose to put our eggs in this basket and we have to carry it.

Number 5 is an ugly situation for this club. Hartline should be up to speed by now. But he is not. Not sure who is at fault for this, but no one has found  an answer to this problem yet, and they may never do it.

Number 7 is a direct result of number 5, but an indirect result of number 10. The coaches have to compensate for this and help the kid out. Don't put him in a situation where he can't be successful.

Number 6 and number 10 are also directly related and in my assessment the underlying cause of this situation as a whole. Granted, we are supposed to be sitting pretty with Curtis Pulley at the helm and Hartline as his backup, but that ship has sailed and it is time to fix the leak in the lifeboat. The coaches have made the assessment that Hartline is our best answer at the position, so be it. Then get behind this kid.......simplify what you are doing. Use the Wildcat as it was intended. Put both he and Cobb back there and at least give the defense something to think about. Hartline's brother is a receiver, so I would think he might be able to catch a football every now and then. Mix things up and make the other team work for it, and not know what is happening all the time. You have a good workhorse running back. We have Seniors that should be contributing, and they are not. You have to develop the people around Hartline to give the kid a shot at being moderately successful.

As coaches, one of the staff's primary duties is to assess talent levels and play the players accordingly. Is there no one on this team other than Randall Cobb who can catch the ball??? We know there are talented kids on the roster, so why have they not progressed any further than this?? We knew going into this year that a bullseye should have been put all over weeks 4 and 5 of the season as the toughest on the schedule. One of the reasons that Steve Spurrier is so dang successful against the Cats is that he does just enough things that are "outside the lines" of normal football, that we keep guessing. I am not advocating a game plan of trick plays, gimmicks, or playing against the percentages constantly, but let's face it folks.....our "Wildcat" package is more  "cat" than " wild".

I have said on numerous occasions that my beloved Mrs. ALLBLUCAT has a rather blunt way of looking at things, and she said what I have heard Tru and myself and a lot of others say, that Hartline just does not look like an SEC caliber quarterback. After doing my research, I am beginning to think that it is because he is not running an SEC caliber offense. And that fault my friends, is not his.

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Great Point

I think you have it nailed down in we don’t have an SEC quality offense.
BUT, don’t be picking on Joker. He is the hand picked successor to what we’ve got now. I want him to come in with a clean slate, run the program as he sees fit.
Any way, he’s what we’re going to get. Cut and dried.
Good to see someone is still interested in football here.

by ParisGuy on Oct 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, honestly Paris I think we have a lot still interested in Football

the problem is that the deeper we get into the season without showing some more success, the stronger the Calipari juggernaut is going to get, and rightfully so. As far as “picking” on Joker goes, he only holds some of the blame, but all of the responsibility. Brooks and Co. are the recruiters and architects of this team, and they have to get the most they can get out of everyone wearing a uniform, and to this point, I think that alone has been the single biggest failure of this coaching staff. At some point this season, we may be better served to turn it all over to the freshmen and start letting them prepare for next year. We are not there yet by a long shot, but if the losses reach 6, and I am Rich Brooks, I give it serious consideration……just my opinion.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joker

ABC, I was joshing with you about Joker.
I believe the current quarterback is a product of the Brooks/Phillips recruiting.
The lack of having an alternate is the same.
Of course we’re going to hear about Pulley’s behavior to behave but i think most schools in the SEC have more than one quarterback that can play.
Be careful. Taking on the current coaching staff will bring all the rah, rahs out of the woodwort. They don’t like anyone to point out what or what we haven’t accomplished. Brooks is in his seventh season, playing with his recruits. Let the product speak for itself.
I don’t blame Hartline. I go higher. The recruiters,and the staff who is responsibe for putting the best on the field. Hartline has limits to his ability but wheres all the other quarterback recruits this bunch has brought in?
Say what you want and I have a little knowledge of football and I think you make good points.
Disregard those that brag about what they know. See below.

by ParisGuy on Oct 9, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesnt worry me too much......

I got broad shoulders and a wide backside…..I can handle the critics….lol….I said once before that I am not honestly sure exactly where the blame lies, and at this point in the season, that really doesnt matter much. What everyone concerned with this team has to do now is figure out a way to pull together and overcome their shortcomings tomorrow at 12 noon…..In the beginning I was one of the most vocal critics that Brooks had, and I completely blamed Mitch for it all. Recycling that old man was in my opinion the biggest mistake he could have ever made. After letting it play out, I have grown fond of the old bird, mostly for his spunk and “stick it in your ear” attitude. He has done a lot for this program and done it cleanly. But getting past this point may be beyond his reach. Mitch knew that when he bequeathed the title of HCIW to Joker. It calmed the fears of some, and was politically the right move at the time, because everyone was concerned that Joker was going to bail out and take another program like Ole Miss, or Miss State. I still think that we do not know all of what he can do until he is truly running things on his own. Right now he has Brooks to run interference for him and handle the press……when the title is truly his, that goes away, and so does the savvy that Brooks brings to the table. I will say this much, Mitch was right and I was wrong about what we needed to turn things in another direction. Stats and records say we have stalled where we are, and I tend to agree. where we go from here is squarely on the shoulders of Brooks and Phillips, and hey, that’s why they get paid the big bucks.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was happy

to see some people with more football knowledge come out and defend Hartline. If you think you are unhappy now, wait until another 2 weeks and we are sitting at 2-4. Too many people are just too critical of the UK team after playing two of the best teams in the country. To play your biggest rivalry and then in the next 4 games play 4 of the 5 best teams in the best conference in the land, what do people expect. The fans have lost touch with reality and it reminds me of the Tony Dungy situation in Tampa when the fans forgot how bad the Buc’s had been and ran a great and classy coach out of town. I hope we can pull an upset off in the next two weeks and shut some of the critics up. ALLBLUCAT, I am glad you finally seem to give some understanding of the football situation, and I appreciate your articles that you contribute. But for us who enjoy UK football, understand it better, and appreciate what Brooks and Joker have accomplished, I would appreciate it if you would quit writing on a subject you do not understand. Your response to ParisGuy is another example, turn it over to the freshmen and prepare for next year. We will have a shot at winning our last 6 games. Are you saying we should give up a chance at a bowl which means the players get another month of practice. The same young guys you want to throw to the wolfs of the SEC need that practice time. Your just as bad ParisGuy. Both of you should stick to basketball.

by Grasslands1 on Oct 9, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"quit writing on a subject you do not understand"

This statement is wrong on so many levels I’m stunned. If we are all a bunch of ignorant, uninformed basketball junkies, please enlighten us. We are not worthy. May I have another?

by hoboat33 on Oct 9, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the comment, however I will put my understanding of UK Football

up against anyone’s. My opinion about moving on if we hit 6 losses is not about giving up, it is about preparing them for the following year. And again, it is just my opinion. If this program is going to continue to get better, we certainly need these players to be better prepared, and that I would think, is obvious to anyone who has watched them. I not only understand and appreciate what Brooks and Joker have accomplished, I applaud it. But as I said in the post, they may not be at fault, but they most certainly are responsible for where we are, and they themselves have said as much.I have followed this football team for the last 30 years as closely as my geography has allowed. I am a UK fan pal….not a UK basketball fan. And reality is all in your own perception as far as the state of this program goes. You choose to believe your own way and I choose mine. And you can appreciate it all you want, but as long as I follow the guidelines and Tru, Ken and others have no problem with it I will continue to post as I see fit. If you dont want to read, then as the old saying goes, change the channel.

There is nothing inflammatory in this post, and I researched all sides of the situation before writing it. All I did was reassess my thoughts of Hartline’s performance after hearing other opinions. As far as being as bad a Paris, he may take a bit of an inflammatory approach to his posts and comments, but he is not what I would call a “bad” guy or a “bad” fan, he just wants to see the Cats succeed, as we all do. And he is as entitled to his opinions as you or I or even as badly as I hate to say it the good old Hoze King himself. That my friend is the purpose of a blog.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What he says.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Oct 10, 2009 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

my God.....we agree on something......;-)

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 10, 2009 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Sure....you are welcomed to agree with ME anytime.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Oct 10, 2009 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

well, I guess miracles do happen....next thing you know

there will be manna falling from the sky…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 10, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Preach on G1

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Oct 9, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AS BAD AS PARISGUY!

Well, thank you. I wish you’d post more about me and less about the subject at hand.

by ParisGuy on Oct 12, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said

But I am tired of Hartline taking the brunt. The defense was the one that let Alabama go 99 1/2 yards for the second score not to mention Alabama’s opening drive. It was Lock that had another untimely fumble but nobody says a word about him but Brooks. One of Hartlines interceptions hit the receiver in the chest. Alabama’s defense made Arkansa’s quarterback, the second best quarterback in the SEC and stats wise one of the best in the country look like he belonged at Miami of Ohio. Nobody tells the whole story. Going into this season, nobody that pays attention would of thought UK would have a better record than it does right now. We all certainly thought UK would have a better showing against Florida. That WAS coaching and Brook’s took the blame. I am disappointed like everybody else in the penalties. But this Hartline kicking needs to stop. Our problems are spread around but we will get better. He will be our starting Quarterback next year also unless one of the RS freshman really step up. I don’t see that happening though. I hope Newton can pick up enough of the offense that UK uses him like Florida used Tebow as a freshman. All I ask is people not to lose hope and don’t be so hard on somebody that is giving there all to get better. Interceptions are going to be thrown but it is not always the quarterbacks fault. I have watched and played football just like most people have, the quarterback is the hardest position to play and Hartline has improved from last year when he unexpectedly had to be thrown to the wolfs and I think it will show by the end of the year. I still say at least a 6-6 year and another bowl game. That is darn important to accomplish, just another month of practice is critical for the young players and it helps in recruiting. Building UK football is a long term job, and patience is a virtue. hobcat33, tell me where I am wrong on so many levels. I rarely comment on here and do enjoy reading what everybody has to say. Last year in he early part of the basketball season I was very hard on BCG and some people got in an uproar. I was proven right then and feel very confident that I am right now.

by Grasslands1 on Oct 9, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The "wrong on many levels"

was a gut reaction to the portion I quoted. I don’t think such a response to ABC’s comment needs to be rebutted with such vitriol. Calling a person’s knowledge into question when it is simply an opinion is out of line. I didn’t see anything ABC “didn’t understand” because that was his opinion. Another thing, please don’t ask someone to quit commenting on behalf of
those “who enjoy UK football, understand it better, and appreciate what Brooks and Joker have accomplished”. Nothing I’ve seen written by ABC indicates either a lack of understanding or appreciation of Brooks/Phillips.

For the most part I enjoyed your post as much as ABC’s. Look, we’re all on the same side. Nobody is shocked that we’re 2-2, it’s just the manner we lost has raised a little unrest. A little unhappiness (okay, a lot of unhappiness) has spilled over into the blame game. Pick a villian – Hartline, Brooks, offense, defense, recievers, barnhart, Phillips – start a post and they’ll be people lined up on both sides of the issue.

It’s time for cooler heads in the stands and on the sideline. We have a lot of football season to go and a lot of great moments ahead of us. We are who we are. Everyone wants Kentucky to be better, now and in the future. How we get there is a great discussion for the off season, we aren’t at the point in the season we we can change any of the above villians so get up tomorrow and root on the team to the best they can play. If they fall short, we’ll solve it tomorrow night.

Our lowest common denominator is we are Wildcat fans. I’ll zestfully disagree with people’s opinion but hopefully stop short of calling them ignorant. I

by hoboat33 on Oct 9, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like I left a little bit at the end that should have been x’ed…….fumble

by hoboat33 on Oct 9, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quit questioning someone else's knowledge.

You all quit worrying about what I said and think about the Cats. You are going to change my opinions or what I write. Bashing some ones thoughts is childish.
Grasslands, good for you and your thoughts. Just don’t try to ridicule someone because your differ with them.
Every one loosen up.
Anyone ordered their Sugar Bowl tickets yet?

by ParisGuy on Oct 9, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am not

always please for sure on Jokers play calling. I do believe he is a very good recruiter and I hope after he takes over for Brooks, my guess is after the 2010-2011 campaign, UK pays for a very, very good recruiter to go along with Joker’s staff. I think Joker deserves the chance to lead this team. Joker might just be a better head coach than he is an offensive coach. ALLBLUCAT, I believe you write very well and have thought to myself you could be a good addition as a full time contributor to this site, but in all honesty, I believe you need to open your views up about the football program and be less harsh like Tru and Ken. I am not saying don’t call a spade a spade. Today in your article, I think you did do much better. I knew some people would take what I said wrong, but some of the bad things being said about the UK football program, I believe are wrong also and sometimes the whole picture is not looked at constructively.

by Grasslands1 on Oct 9, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's why we put it all out there,

so that everyone can get their two cents worth in. I will always say what I feel, popular or not, it’s a character flaw. I have been critical of every coach we have ever had both basketball and football, when I see something that is worth being critical of. One thing I give Tru credit for above all else, is that no matter what the opinion, unless it is being said to disparage another blogger or commenter, or a personal attack on someone within the program, it gets put out there for all to see. Usually, massively negative things get handled by the members of the site simply posting their personal views. I have no problem with differing views, but I do take umbrage with someone questioning my understanding of the program. My job and family not withstanding, UK sports is my life, and will continue to be for as long as I am able.
My daughter even has me watching UK soccer games now……

My continuing concerns for this football program are rooted in one thing and one thing only….I want to see us get over this habit of making excuses for not succeeding. I do not buy into the “geographically challenged” theory, nor do I believe that being in the SEC is a deterrent to getting quality talent. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think it has been used by the UKAA for far too long when it comes to explaining the inability of the University to get and keep a quality coaching staff, and the players that follow. Call it my exposure to the latter half of the decade of the 60’s, or whatever you like, but I have never, and will never simply accept the status quo. And no one else should have to either. I hope to have another 45 years on this planet to watch the Cats and their successes, and I simply do not want to have to wait until my last 5 years on the planet to see us stand as an equal among the leaders in our conference.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Critical and ?
I have been critical of every coach we have ever had both basketball and football, when I see something that is worth being critical of.

I hope you can also give praise when praise is due, if something happens that deserves a good ol’ pat on the back. Just saying….

I know I haven’t been here at ASoB for a long time, but this fan is looking forward to some good things being said about a coach. :-)

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by a2d2 on Oct 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I give equal time to both sides....

my comments have been tempered with disclaimers from the get go, that Coach Brooks does not bear all of the blame for this. And I have been very complimentary of the things I believe Brooks has done well. I was a Tubby supporter even after things went bad, and I have not been overly critical of BCG unless the situation warranted it, which it did more than not.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks ABC :-)

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by a2d2 on Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you make some good points ...

… which is why I promoted the post.

I do think that by facing the top 2 defenses in the SEC back to back, it’s a little hard to assess Hartlines progress. There is no doubt that Chris Matthews is having some trouble with routes. I haven’t seen Cobb blow any, but he probably has as well.

When it comes to assessing blame, failed execution has many mothers. The first you mentioned — coaching. If coaching hasn’t been up to par, then execution will not be.

But another thing you did not mention, and it is a big one, is confidence. I don’t believe Kentucky, as a team, had any confidence in their ability to succeed against Alabama and Florida. To some degree, that is understandable. These players don’t live in a hole somewhere in the hills of Lexington where they are fed mushroom food and kept blind, deaf and dumb until game time. They know perfectly well that Florida and Alabama are much more talented football teams, and it takes success competing with good teams to give you the confidence that you need to execute well.

Despite that, Kentucky did some good things against Alabama, and that should give them a bit of confidence. They also know that South Carolina, although a good football team, is not like the two teams they just played, which will also give them confidence. What the coaching staff has to do is channel that and make some good play calls right away. The old saying goes, “Nothing succeeds like success.” What Kentucky needs is early success against USC. When UK’s defense had early success against Alabama, but for a fluke play, they could easily have wound up in the locker room at half time with the lead.

I think the biggest thing Hartline, and the team, needs right now is success. They need success to build confidence, and with confidence, they can win games.

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by Truzenzuzex on Oct 9, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think confidence

is the key thing that has been missing in the Wildcats last two games, too. I recall saying that for a couple of weeks now and I couldn’t agree more. ;-)

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by a2d2 on Oct 9, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, at this point, I think MY confidence in this team is

bent but not completely broken. As I said above they have to find a way to come together tomorrow about 12 noon and make a good showing. I have always said I can live with losses as long as the team plays like they want to win, and that I think is a direct result of what you state which is confidence. I made a statement above about letting the freshmen get in there if we got to 6 losses for just that reason. They need time to acclamate themselves as well, the last few games of the season present an opportunity to do just that.

One other thing and I think this also leads to more problems. Whomever made this schedule needs to have their head(s) examined. Someone should have looked at this 4 game stretch and said hold the phone here. The 2 best teams in the conference at home, followed by two teams we havent beat in a very long time ( I cannot remember the last win against Auburn, I just know there was one)????

As someone I heard is so fond of saying, winning cures everything…..and these kids need a win……badly.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay this might be a really stupid question....

but what does “is it hartline or is memorex” mean?

by hummer11092 on Oct 9, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There used to be a commercial for the Memorex company

they produced cassette and 8-track tapes. Commercials would show an opera or famous singer breaking a wine glass with their voice. Then they would show the Memorex taped version doing the same thing…..and the question at the end of the commercial was always,

“Is it live, or is it Memorex?”

Click the link to see for yourself……I still have Memorex cassettes in my audio collection….and they still play like new…..quality product.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another Great Post!!

ABC…we’re definitely on the same page and again, I’ll say you’re much more articulate than I am….must be that UofL degree that I have on the wall.

Being a born and bred UK fan and 53, I’ve watched UK’s up and downs under various coaches since Charlie Bradshaw.

I keep reading the supposed “football” experts saying….“of course we were going to loose to Flordia and Alabama.” I do agree that beating either the #1 & #3 teams would have been huge upsets but I also watched Washington beat USC.

Now before all the “football” experts jump in to point out the Washington is much more of a football school than UK, here are their records under their last 2 coaches before they hired Steve Sarkisian from USC: 2003 6-6, 2004 1-10,2005 2-9,2006 5-7,2007 4-9,2008 0-12 .

Already this year they’ve played a very good game against LSU if anyone remembers the stunned anouncers that day, they’ve beaten USC and taken Notre Dame into OT at Notre Dame……not bad for a first year coach.

Now the point is……did they just suddenly just “remember” that they’re a football school? did they have a huge top recruiting class that came in? What happened?

They hired a young bright coach with fire in the belly who’s obviously already got them thinking they can beat anyone. Where is that attitude at UK?

I’m upset that we played like we did against Flordia and Alabama but I’m REALLY upset about the UofL game. Yes, it’s hard to predict rivalry games but did anyone else watch the last 15 seconds of the first half?

That wasn’t Hartline….that was just bad coaching and this is my concern and I think yours too. Coach Brooks and his staff definitely deserve credit as many have said for the bowl games and winning some games that in the past, UK would probably have lost (LSU) but the concern I see and I think you’re expressing is that UK does not seem to be on a upward track of improvement.

With Coach Brooks already naming a successor and apparently almost everyone on board with that choice, are we looking at this level for years to come? Yes, things may be totally different with Joker as head coach but what if they’re not?

Rumors are flying around Louisville that Jurich met with Kraigthorpe Monday and told him this would be it. I had lunch with a UofL buddy yesterday and he teased me that if UofL makes the right choice, they could hypothetically be sitting in a MUCH better position that UK in just 3 years or so if the present tread continues.

How could I argue that? Last years last second win against Arkansas was the lynch pin of getting to a bowl. This year, in my humble opinion, we aren’t going to a bowl. So where is the program going?

Many think it’s just fine to win 6 games and go to the Whocares Bowl but after watching UK football for 40 years, I think the University deserves more!!

by UKlvrJM on Oct 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Louisville situation may be one for the ages

they have it even worse than we do, because they have experienced success and want more. If we had a 10-1 season and a shot at the National Championship, I am not sure how we would react…..lol….

A team hitting on all cylinders could make up for some of Mike’s mistakes, and that couls have translated into a much better game with UL. Then the last two weeks would have been an even bigger mystery. But this stuff of the entire team shutting down for a quarter at a time, just wont fly, no matter who you play. Hopefully they have gotten that out of their system.

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 9, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A place to start

First we have to get an athletic director that isn’t ticket to death after going 6-6 and not beating a team in the regular season with a winning record. That might be a good place to start.

by ParisGuy on Oct 10, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to agree...

with Mrs. Allblucat. I do not see the athletic ability in Hartline to perform at the SEC level. Too many passes thrown off target, low, behind the receiver, into a crowd of defenders, etc. I am not trying to place blame, just stating what I have observed. Yes, the receivers have not held up their end, but the ball has to be catchable before the receiver takes the blame for the incompleted pass. Football is a complex team effort relying on contributions from everyone to succeed but on the offensive side of the ball, the quarterback is the one who ultimately must rise to the occasion.

by kywineman on Oct 9, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

And, I have to agree with Tru. A little success would go a long way. If we can upset S. Carolina, the confidence level of this team would surely go way up. Last year, I was completely unimpressed with Hartline. This year, I think his arm strength is improved. But even though he’s stronger, I still think the best, most dangerous weapon we have is #18. Cobb just presents more problems for defences. Just one man’s opinion…

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Oct 9, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or defenses

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Oct 9, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Its Hartline. ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

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GOG 2009 #04
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The SEC In Bowls
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GOG 2009 #03
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UK football notes, 11/18
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The Tournament Lasts All Year This Year
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Would Wall's shot merit a "Golden Spike?"

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