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Alabama at Kentucky in the Rear-View Mirror

Looking back at this game, and what people are saying about it, there are a few surprises.  Early reports primarily looking at the score saw this as the Tide coming in and crushing a hapless Wildcat team pretty much like Florida did, but just allowing a few more points.

But more detailed looks, and even (rather surprisingly) the comments from the Alabama coaching staff paint a slightly different picture.  But in the end, we have to look at it for what it is -- a loss at home.  Granted, this was a loss against the third (and maybe the first) best team in the country, but moral victories are for people who don't care about a sport.  Yes, Kentucky is a basketball school, but we do care about football.  We don't care about football like Alabama or Auburn or Florida, but we really do expect to compete in every game, and have a chance to win.

Kentucky actually came close to meeting that low bar yesterday, but were victimized by a bit of a freak play that got Alabama a touchdown late in the first half that made it difficult for Kentucky fans to have hope.  A 14-6 hole is one thing, but a 21-6 hole against a defense like the Tide is a spirit-crushing deficit.

Star-divide

In spite of that, UK did some good things.  Led by Derrick Locke, the Wildcats gashed the Tide defense for an impressive amount of yardage, and without all those turnovers, it is entirely possible that Kentucky could have taken the Tide to the wire.  But the turnovers can't be wished away like that, and they were brutal, resulting almost in the margin of victory.

So in the end, Kentucky is left angry and unhappy once again, and the fact that we moved the ball well on one of the most highly-ranked defenses in the land is lost among the recriminations of foolish turnovers and squandered opportunities.  It is the nature of fans to see more negative than positive in losses, and I think that's right -- after all, we expect and want victories, even in unlikely scenarios like yesterday.

But we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge that Kentucky's offense, if you can somehow eliminate the turnovers, looked quite competent, even if Mike Hartline didn't.  I think that is largely due to the fact that unlike the Florida game, the Kentucky coaching braintrust had a solid gameplan coming into this game and stuck to it, even when the going got tough.  The result was the second-highest point total against the Tide defense this year, and enough respect from Saban (depending on what you want to believe) that he felt running a late punt fake and taking a shot at the end zone was necessary.

So here is the Alabama game in the rear-view mirror.  The Gamecocks loom in Columbia:

  • 20/20 Hindsight: Alabama vs Kentucky - Roll 'Bama Roll
    20/20 Hindsight: A look at what the boys of the press are saying in the wake of the Alabama/Kentucky game.

  • Daily Independent (Ashland, KY) - Cats can't hang with big boys
    The Wildcats won’t give up, but they won’t live up either, not if Kentucky fans are expecting a win like the school experienced two seasons ago, when it upset No. 1 LSU, or a better bowl game than the Independence Bowl or Liberty Bowl for that matter.

    The SEC is just too tough.

    * Sigh * This has the unfortunate ring of truth.

  • 'It's a win,' though it was anything but commanding - al.com
    Saturday's game was essentially a statistical toss-up. Kentucky tallied more first downs and passing yards, but the Wildcats (2-2, 0-2 SEC) couldn't recover from a 107-second stretch that spanned into both halves and featured two turnovers and 21 points for the Crimson Tide (5-0, 2-0).

    Hope springs eternal.

  • al.com: Sports
    Alabama coach Nick Saban said Saturday's game was "the most physical, toughest game we've had to this point." While Virginia Tech fans may beg to differ, many of the numbers bear him out.

  • WILDCATS PAY PRICE FOR WIDE-OPEN PEEK - al.com
    Two times, Alabama tight end Colin Peek was so wide open it was as if the Kentucky defense was afraid he had swine flu.

    Kentucky needs to work on the zone defense. It's was clear that we don't play it much, but injuries forced us into it a lot yesterday, and Peek took advantage.

  • Tide does enough to take down ’Cats | TideSports.com | The Tuscaloosa News | Tuscaloosa, AL
    "That was really a tough game," Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban said.

    "(Kentucky) was physical, probably the most physical team we’ve played. They ran the ball pretty well against us, better than teams usually do, and we had to overcome some adversity."

  • Hartline knows it's time to respond | KentuckySports.com
    "The thing about quarterback is, you have four or five bad plays and you played terrible," Phillips said. "For the most part, he played good. But it's those four or five plays your quarterback is judged on."

    Exactly right. SEC quarterbacks cannot afford four or five bad plays against top competition. You get maybe two or three, and the difference is the difference between W and L.

  • Notes: Seiber goes long to set UK scoring record | KentuckySports.com
    Not only did senior place-kicker Lones Seiber break the Kentucky career scoring record Saturday, but he did it in style.

    Seiber has been much-maligned at UK, but he is off to a good start this year. Congrats to him for the record, and he earned that record the hard way.

  • Turnovers doom UK in 38-20 loss to Alabama | KentuckySports.com
    "We managed to turn a pretty good football game into a terrible football game in a matter of six minutes," UK head coach for offense Joker Phillips said.

    No wonder they call him "Joker," he's a master of the obvious.

  • UK receivers not catching on | KentuckySports.com
    But UK was done in largely by four mistakes — three interceptions and a fumble after a pass reception that was returned for a touchdown — in its passing game.

    Story goes on to question the receivers, and I think he is right to do so. Hartline doesn't get off, but he is getting help in underachieving. Which begs other questions... like why?

  • One bad play rains on Locke's big day | KentuckySports.com
    "They played with a lot of toughness," Saban said of Kentucky. "They ran the ball on us as well as anybody probably has for a while, and I think they deserve a lot of credit."

    I think Saban is right. This Kentucky team is tough physically, but mentally they are wanting.

  • Melick: Alabama avoids being bitten by 'Cats in sandwich game | X's and Uh-oh's - al.com
    "It's all about being patient," said Ingram, who finished the game with 140 yards rushing and two touchdowns. "Our coaches are going to find the adjustments to be successful. It's all about being patient and not getting frustrated."

  • Another Alabama romp
    Things got a little edgy late. The Crimson Tide was trying to milk the clock late in the fourth quarter with an 18-point lead when Kentucky started to call timeouts.

    Oh, so the punt fake and shot at the end zone was in response to UK trying to save time to run another series?  Really?  With an 18 point lead?  Please.

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I think the Wildcats need a big boost of confidence.....

In the link, Lones said confidence took a big jump after making the first 49-yard field goal. Confidence isn’t something that just happens. It has to be embraced. Sort of like embracing the hate. And we all know about that !

Randall Cobb had this to say about his fumble

He’s frustrated. Cobb says after the fumble recovered for a touchdown at the end of the first half, he could see that not everyone had the same fight as him.
“It was a little bit of both sides. You had some guys that were like ‘I can’t believe this just happened’ and other guys saying ‘O.K., were still in this game, we can win this game.’ I think the attitude is one of the biggest things that needs to be changed on this team.”

Yes attitude. I really enjoy football, but I don’t play it obviously. I cannot help the x’s and o’s. It doesn’t matter how many times I play tic-tac-toe…LOL… it isn’t going to make the game be better executed. My contribution for a win? Supporting our team. They do need it after all. It will help their attitude.

In case you think that they should win week after week, game after game with no losses, let me ask you this. Are you giving your best shot at being a confidence booster for the team? Most players with heart do it for the fans. Randall also had this to say and I hope you think about it, if only a little…

“Anytime you lose fans, that’s your base. That’s your backbone to a team. If you don’t have the fan support then it’s not even like you’re playing at home. It’s like you’re playing at a neutral site if you don’t have the fan support. We had them in the game for a little bit and after awhile, our fans gave up on us. At that point, we need to make plays to get our fans back into the game. I can’t blame the fans cause they’re not the ones playing, we are.”

He calls us fans the backbone. Can a person get up and stand without a backbone? NO WAY !!
We have to do our part too…… GO CATS !!
~~as Tru always says, your mileage may vary :-)

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by a2d2 on Oct 4, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

And I forgot......

Congrats to Lones on his record…..Way to go !!
:-)

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by a2d2 on Oct 4, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Bigger, faster, stronger.

It has been obvious watching the Cats the past two weeks that Florida and Alabama are all kinds of bigger, faster and stronger than us. In a way, we are a lot better than we were a few years ago but those two schools still have a huge advantage in overall talent that is very difficult to overcome. You have to play a perfect game and get some breaks to win on the football field when the talent gap is as large as it was the past two weeks. We have not played even close to perfect and yet we were still in this one until the fumble by Locke at the end of the second quarter. If that doesn’t happen, or Johnson tackles the Alabama running back for a safety, could have been a different game.

Either way, to believe at season’s start that we might win one of these past two games was wishful thinking. Florida and Alabama are just too good. The next two games however, are winnable. It’s going to take a great game plan and excellent play. And the fact that we are on the road may actually work in our favor. It’s not likely that we can win both, but I think we can steal one of them and that would make a huge difference down the road.

So, Rich and company, get your boys focused. You can win these next 2 games.

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by hoopchi on Oct 4, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Bigger...

Alabama’s offensive line weighs in at an average 307lbs! Any idea how that compares to UK’s deffensive or offensive line? I can’t find it.

by mark12kentucky on Oct 4, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad effort

The Cats need to play all four quarters. They did great in the running game but in the passing, well, they need help. The quarterback is still getting rattled at times but other than the first interception, which was VERY bad decison to throw across his body into a group of five Alabama backers, he didn’t play that bad. I saw drops from kids that had been lauded as the best we have. It happens, but you aren’t going to win doing that against a team like Alabama. The star of the game was the UK punter. Two great kicks that put them inside the 10 to start with.
The tackling was better.
The better team won, which happens 99% of the time.
The next two games will define the season. Neither game should be a spread of over 10 points. The problem is we’re playing away from home. BUT didn’t we play Bama tough last year on the road?
The running game looks like its going to have to be a major part of our offense. Speedier defensive backs in the SEC is going to take a toll on the passing game.
Over all, the Cats played better than I thought they would.
Now is the time to show if this year is going to be ‘the year’ or do we wait again for ‘next year’.

by ParisGuy on Oct 4, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

better play for this year.

This year is one we can’t afford to throw away, especially for Mike hartline. I feel for the guy, but he is not the answer at QB, and is not going to be. Simple as that. He has two, maybe three more games to START, and the freshman Newton needs to get at least a quarter or more of action in each of those. By the series. If we want any chance at bowl #4 in a row. Not trying to be mean, just honestly realistic. Hartline doesn’t have the arm, nor the nerve for SEC QB. He zeroes in immediately, and I couldn’t agree more that there was only one real good throw in that whole game. The drops were mostly all from very poor throws. His dance at the LINE OF SCRIMMAGE with all the audibles is about 75% of the lines problems. You get down to the wire on time on every play and people get jumpy. I love Brooks, but he needs to put the whole brain trust together and make the decision that inexperienced talent can and will get you farther then experienced lack thereof. This is the most important year in the resurrection of UK football. We can’t afford to can this year just to not hurt Mike’s feelings? he’s a man and men tough things out. Wish it could be otherwise, but it’s not a perfect world. Fidler ain’t getting to play? Nobodies worried about his feelings? We have far too many teams to play that are better then most any of us thought they were. We don’t have as much room to play it looks like.

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by blubloodcatfan on Oct 4, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

endgame

“Oh, so the punt fake and shot at the end zone was in response to UK trying to save time to run another series? Really? With an 18 point lead? Please.”

I know that, as a Kentucky fan, it may be that you understand football as well as I understand cricket, but yes, the idea is that we lay down, you lay down. If we start to lay down and you start calling timeouts, we’re not going to just lay down and willingly give you the ball back with the same score.

Other than Meyer, Stoops, etc.-types who relish running it up, there’s a way for both teams to acknowledge that the game is over. If the losing team is on defense at that point, their way to do so is to refrain from calling timeouts and let the game actually end. But you can’t have it both ways, expecting to extend the game while the other team lies down.

by rtr on Oct 4, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm....

Just because our team does not win as frequently as yours does, means nothing in regards to our football knowledge. We know quite a bit about football here in the bluegrass, we just care more about basketball. I appreciate your comments but don’t like them being couched in such a superior tone. We can all have opinions. I, for one, had no real problem with any of the things that happened at the end of the game. I’m not even sure that Saban was trying to score more. Maybe he thought the fake would be unsuccessful and that would be the best way to not “run up the score.” Doesn’t matter to me. Sure, the game was over. But if both coaches want to run some things to prepare for the rest of the season, so be it. It’s football. No problem. Tru took issue with it and you know what? That’s ok. We don’t always agree here. And if you don’t agree with him, that’s ok too. Just keep the snide comments about our football knowledge out of it, please.

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by hoopchi on Oct 5, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

aww...

But I have this shirt that says Internet Badass and everything! I can’t be snide?

by rtr on Oct 5, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry.

With all due respect, I don’t agree with that. In that situation, you run line plunges or kick the football. There is no team in the history of the game that can score 18 points against a superior team in 2 minutes.

For that matter, why not kick the field goal and remove all doubt? I would have been fine with that. But running a fake punt and then taking a shot at the end zone defeats your own argument.

And I may not be as deeply steeped in football as you, but I do understand sports and what good sportsmanship looks like.

But hey, it’s all good. As I said before, when a team rolls up up five personal foul penalties for late hits like we did against you, it’s hard to claim the moral authority to complain about it when the other team does something a little less than totally sportsmanlike. So I’m good with it.

But I don’t buy the argument that I objected to, and you shouldn’t either — it’s dead wrong.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 5, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually Tru, that's not ENTIRELY accurate

Cincinnati Bengals scored 21 points on the Pittsburgh Steelers back in the late 80’s early 90’s with less than 2 minutes to go before halftime in a game…..most bizarre thing I ever heard of. That doesnt get the guy cut any slack mind you…..but it can happen…..returned kickoff for TD, recovered fumble on ensuing kickoff for TD, then intercepted pass and started a 4 play drive that lasted 1:01…..I know I can probably look it up online somewhere, but it happened in my youth…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but the Begals at the time were a good football team

at least on par with the Steelers. So your original premise still holds much more true than not.

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by cincyblue on Oct 5, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Bengals", Sorry

Or maybe I subconsciously meant Beagles. LOL

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by cincyblue on Oct 5, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whew!.....I am so glad someone else remembers that game.....lol

thought I had dreamed it up….lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

this entire post

…ignores the fact that UK called timeouts. We DID run line plunges, and would have done so until the game ended, if UK would’ve let it end.

by rtr on Oct 5, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No ...

… it does not ignore that. Look, when you are a team like UK, a big underdog in their home stadium, you cannot ask them to lie down. I wouldn’t ask Alabama to lie down.

But absent any other facts, like the excessive number of personal fouls, do you think it is sportsmanlike to have your starters in the game up 18 points with under three minutes to play taking shots at the end zone?

I didn’t think so.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 6, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Worst quote of the year

“The thing about quarterback is, you have four or five bad plays and you played terrible,” Phillips said. “For the most part, he played good. But it’s those four or five plays your quarterback is judged on.”

That’s just plain scary that a coach takes this position. I guess Woodson won’t be kept awake at night worrying his throws without an interception record won’t be broken while Brooks/Phillips are in charge. This mindset from the coaching staff is totally unacceptable. If you accept mediocrity as the end goal that’s where you’ll peak.

by hoboat33 on Oct 4, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

He's not wrong, though.

The problem is, you can’t afford four or five bad plays in the SEC as a quarterback and win, especially against a superior team. You just can’t.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 5, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, you make 1 bad mistake against a team like Bama and youre toast

hell, you can make NO mistakes and still be toast…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

That is so. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 5, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

His national record was broken earlier this year by a guy from NC St

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Oct 5, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Who was coaching at Kentucky when he set that record?

by ParisGuy on Oct 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

And now you're sticking up for Brooks/Phillips?

They caught lightning in a bottle and were lucky Woodson didn’t go down with an injury. Can you name Woodson’s backup off the top of your head? That wasn’t the point.

The point is: The coaching staff sees nothing wrong with our quarterback having 4 or 5 bad plays in a game! You get eaten alive in the SEC with a quarterback performing like that.

In addition, when Curtis Pulley corrupted his UK career we were left with no legitimate back-up to what was our back-up (Hartline). Looks like Brooks/Phillips will just coast through this year with Hartline and go to Newton/Mossy next year. Thankfully, they are also pursuing some top talent for next year’s class to avoid this situation in the future.

by hoboat33 on Oct 5, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problem

No problem ABC. I’ve been told to play nice.
Just seems the same bunch were pulling the strings when Woodson was there.
Who recruited the best quarterback Brooks has had since he’s been there?
Hartline was playing against what many think is the best defense in the country. Still, other posters want blood. Its like a feeding frenzy.
Probably the best quarterback is playing wide receiver. Who positions the players and tells them were to play?
I bet is not Hartline.
Rah, rah! Let the pep rally begin.

by ParisGuy on Oct 5, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

personally I think the group as a whole needs to take a long hard look at itself

what we have seen the last 2 and part of 3 weeks is not what the fans expect, what the coaches expect, and certainly not what the players who were recruited to come here expect….you are not wrong in some of your assessments…the True Blue here want to give it a" little longer" I guess would be the best way to put it…..lol

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woodson

Remember… as late as the 2nd or 3rd game into his junior season, people were still saying Pulley was the better QB.

The team is still sitting record wise exactly where most of the rational fans thought they would be after 4 games. Now we have two games against better than expected South Carolina and Auburn. Even if we drop those two games, we’re still pretty much exactly where we expected to be.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Oct 5, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we think the bottom dwellers of SEC basketball look at their schedule...

And count games at Rupp Arena as wins?

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Oct 5, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmm, what years?

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by blbskue on Oct 5, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

last couple ANY game was a possible win

can you say Gardner-Webb????

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hartline

At some point, you’d think he stop making mistakes that a high school freshman makes, but alas, he doesn’t. The first interception was absolutely inexcusable. You never, ever, throw across your body, against your momentum, to the middle of the field. That is QB 101.

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by btcoop71 on Oct 5, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

He doesn't make as many mistakes as a freshman ...

… but he makes far, far too many to beat a team like Alabama.

Hartline, in my opinion, has got it in his head that he has to throw down the field. Alabama was giving us the underneath route to Locke all day, and Locke was reeling off 10 yards a whack. What do you do when that happens? Get the damn ball to your backs and forget about taking shots down field.

The old saying goes, three things can happen when you throw the football, and two of them are bad. I would add that the longer the pass, the more likely bad things will happen.

Hartline is doing a lousy job of checking to his backup receivers. He locks on early and gives his primary too long to get clear. He needs to make a judgment about that much more quickly, and his failure to do so is killing him. Give your primary three seconds to get a step, and if he isn’t clear, move to your secondaries, especially when the team is giving you the underneath routes. If they are taking that away, then look downfield more, but Alabama wasn’t sitting on the underneath routes.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 5, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hartline's mental mistakes are killing the offense

He has the physical ability, he just has awful decision making abilities. Also, he appears to have trouble reading defenses.

And I agree 100% on your first point, if the defense is giving soemthing positive to you, you have to take advantage of it.

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by btcoop71 on Oct 5, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I swear I thought he was blind in one eye Saturday

not trying to compound things here, but it was like he was only seeing one side of the field…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks said

that Newton was doing good, just not ready for SEC caliber play. So Mike Hartline is?? Flip a coin, and you got the difference between them. Hartline plays to the defense. He goes to the line and changes the play every time he see’s a change in the defense. Hence all the audibles. hence all the line jumps. Cobb needs to stay where he is. We can’t play for “next year”, which is what it amounts to if we stick with Hartline. With Woodson you could see potential. Anybody see Hartline playing in the league anytime? Don’t think so. Woodson had the arm strength, and you could tell his problems were mechanical and inexperience. Hartline has the potential to get us through to next year when Newton or Massy can take over. Mike just doesn’t have the nerve for this level, or the arm. You have to make the defense play you, not the other way around. His recievers will start looking much different if Newton takes over I bet. This team has real potential, if we don’t throw it away waiting for Hartline to “develop”

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by blubloodcatfan on Oct 6, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe "not ready for SEC caliber play"

is coachspeak for “we’ll see what he can do in the EKU and La/Monroe games”.

by hoboat33 on Oct 6, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite part of the game

was when some of the basketball team came out on the field with Coach Cal. The crowd went wild! After that any time something negative happened on the field (umm PLENTY) I would look at my friend and say, “Bring out the basketball team!” We would crack up picturing the team running out on the field every few minutes to cheer up our crowd and give us something to cheer about! lol. ;)

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by kentuckygirl0724 on Oct 5, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

'Cocks Go For 10 Straight

Surprising streak, plus they are 13 point favorites.

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by Wild Weasel on Oct 5, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

"Road" Ahead No Easier

#1, #3, now #17 and #25 … on the road.

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by Wild Weasel on Oct 5, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

A good thing

The best teams are behind us. That’s good.
No game on the schedule should we not be ‘in’. We’ve played three games at home and one at a neutral site. Playing at Auburn and South Carolina isn’t going to make it easier.
Its the conference we’re in. Time to show up and play.

by ParisGuy on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

We should be able to compete with the remaining teams. We need at least one win on this road trip. It won’t be easy, but that’s what we have.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 5, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My feelings, FWIW, are as follows:
  • This team has shown flashes of being a good to very good football team.
  • ’Bama was the better team, even if we played our best
  • And thus the rub – if we play to our abilities, but lose, I can be okay. The problem is that this team is NOT playing to its potential. I’m not talking some cheesey-come-out-of-nowhere-and-win-it-all potential, I just mean play within yourself and your talents. We cannot seem to do that with any consistency.
  • My concern isn’t with our talent, it’s with this team making the SAME mistakes over and over. Penalties and turnovers are killing us. Take away the first personal foul and one Hartline INT, and this might have been a ball game, even with the lucky Locke fumble.
  • Thus, it comes down to coaching. I think we have talent, and ability, and can run with most teams in the nation, but if the coaches can’t get this team to stop making boneheaded mistakes, we will continue to lose.

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by blbskue on Oct 5, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

This ...
My concern isn’t with our talent, it’s with this team making the SAME mistakes over and over. Penalties and turnovers are killing us. Take away the first personal foul and one Hartline INT, and this might have been a ball game, even with the lucky Locke fumble.

… is what is making me unhappy. Penalties and stupid turnovers. I can live with forced fumbles, those are just good D, but lobbed-up interceptions are not acceptable.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 5, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with both

Penalties and turnovers are killing this team. Do they beat Florida and Alabama if they play mistake free? Most likely not, but you take away any chance with bone headed plays.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Oct 5, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Brooks' 5 minute interviews

after the closed practices has he been asked about getting a little game experience for the #2 and #3 quarterbacks? I know it’s hard to throw them in the game against the best teams in the division/conference/country but they need to get in the game somewhere.

In my dreams I’d also like to see Cobb in the Wildcat for several plays in succession. It’s a lot to ask of him to occassionally run that formation without being able to get into a rhythm; but, if anybody could do it, he could.

by hoboat33 on Oct 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not the Wildcat if he does it several times in succession

The whole gimmick of the Wildcat is that you send your standard personnel out there, but put an athlete at QB and have your QB split wide or at tight end. If you leave the formation in there for several plays, the defense will adjust their personnel accordingly.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Oct 5, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if I noticed correctly,

was Hartline even in when Cobb was at QB? He’s big enough to hit as a receiver if needed.

And what about snapping the ball to Hartline, who hands it to Cobb, who throws.

The Wildcat was effective for the most part (don’t know where it went in the second half, but I guess we really didn’t run much offense in the 3rd quarter anyway), but it seems like it’s a dead giveaway if Hartline is nowhere to be seen.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on Oct 5, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry.....but if Hartline can't hit a receiver with a ball he throws

I sure don’t want to count on him hitting a LB with a block he throws….lol….

Remember, we're having fun now!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 5, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wikdcat, Arkansas and McFadden

McFadden, I believe was a guarterback in high school. When he went into the wildcat formation with the other running back, his name excapes me, it was two running back, one with the ablitiy to be a passer and the possiblity of the option or an end around.
I’m not at practices, nor do I think any coach in his right mind,, would not put his best athletes on the field at the postions they would most benefit the offense.
It seems the potential to do more thinks would be with Cobb in the shotgun. But I’m not making the choices.
Hartlne’’s mistakes are more visible to all of us because the play starts eith him. We don’t know who called the play, changed it at the sideline, etc. The one glowing mistake was the pass across his body for the first interception.
Any one know if the receivers have blow the routes? Nope. Give the kid a break. For every dropped ball, it goes against his completion total. Wrong route, against Hartlline. He’s not the best in the SEC but apparently, acoording to the coaches is the best we got.

by ParisGuy on Oct 5, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Felix Jones

Now of the 2-2 Dallas Cowboys.

"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson

by Wild Weasel on Oct 5, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Changing The Subject

KUUK (more than a palindrome): #1 & 2 in CBS preseason poll.

"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson

by Wild Weasel on Oct 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

race car!

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Oct 6, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

True to form

weasel, unbelievable!
With upteen sites on this board to discuss basketball, we got it here. Just pickin’ on ya.
BUT I think it might show the overall feelings for UK football when it comes to something, anything, being posted about Cal’s Cats.
You guys go nuts about basketball and although I have basketball tickets I try to be a football fan. Let’s hope Cal doesn’t get a toothache or some other life threating problem or we may have to call off homecoming.

by ParisGuy on Oct 5, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

well spoken, it’s still prime football season and only 1/3 of the games have been played

by hoboat33 on Oct 5, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a bit better

Kentucky’s off quarters: Maimi – 1st, L’vile – 3rd, Florida – 1st (seemed like 3 quarters), Alabama – didn’t take an entire quarter off so cumulative effect of 1 quarter. Soooo….. we’ve played 4 games and didn’t show up for one of them.

I know, this reasoning makes no sense; but dammit, I still am looking forward to every game and am not going to let my support of the players waiver (although the L’ville game was a major disappointment and the FL 1st quarter was too bad for words).

by hoboat33 on Oct 6, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

My hair is gray

and my teeth will start falling out pretty soon. Failing eyesight may be my only salvation. I’ll get my wife to give me an eleemosynaric play-by-play.

by hoboat33 on Oct 6, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The site was way overdue

for a $10 word. That one nailed me in a spelling bee growing up. I was the proverbial “deer in the headlights”.

by hoboat33 on Oct 7, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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