Kentucky 24, Mississippi State 31 -- After Action Report
First things first. Congratulations to Mississippi State for an outstanding game. They were determined, they were strong, and generally, they were just better than Kentucky. Anthony Dixon was just too much for us, and Kentucky's defense never could figure out how to contain him. Not only that, MSU made big plays on the downfield passing game, something that they have rarely been able to do in SEC play.
Give a lot of credit to the MSU offensive line, which dominated Kentucky's d-line all night long. Kentucky was never able to get good penetration, and it was almost like UK was playing seven down linemen instead of six, partially because of the inexplicable decision by Steve Brown to go with the nickel package all night against a team that is not exactly strong in the passing game.
I could rant and rave about this game all night, but in the end, it boiled down to game plans -- MSU had a far superior game plan on both sides of the ball, and UK was unprepared and unable to adjust. It was essentially a case of two equally talented teams, only one had better coaching. Tonight, that team was not Kentucky.
My observations follow the jump.
- Morgan Newton did the best he could. He is a case study in why you don't succeed in the SEC with a freshman QB. It isn't that he was bad, he wasn't, and in some cases, he was downright great. But the little things -- the unwanted timeouts, the poor decisions, the really bad decision that forced the interception -- those things are the kind of things more experienced quarterbacks don't do often. Morgan was great -- except when he wasn't, and that was more often than not.
- Too little Randall Cobb in the Wildcat. It is not rocket science to know that Cobb prefers to run, but Phillips insisted on calling running plays from the Wildcat instead of the passes that MSU was not ready for. It was something so obvious even a guy who last played organized football at QB 38 years ago could see it.
- Kentucky's offense was as predictable as the sunrise. So was MSU's, but for some reason, UK couldn't figure it out. Example -- on the long MSU pass play for a touchdown, I looked over to my wife and said, "They will take a shot downfield on this play, just watch." Oh, to be wrong...
- Derrick Locke continues to impress despite his fragility.
- Our defensive line was pushed around from the first snap to the last.
- Our offensive line was adequate, but little more, and we did a poor job picking up the blitz.
- How do you have a player like Randall Cobb and fail to get him the football even once on the final drive of the game? I'm just askin'...
- When it counted, T.C. Drake dropped a football that anybody could have caught.
- Anybody but me missing Mike Hartline?
- Injuries were a big factor in this. Micah was a shadow of his former self, and Trevard Lindley would have spared us the nickel package on most downs.
This was a loss that we will regret. Big time. UK may still make a bowl, but it will likely be nearby, and minor. I am extremely disappointed in both the team and the coaching staff, the latter in particular. They had been doing so well, and then this.
Well, I guess we should recognize that every team throws in a clunker now and then, and that includes the coaching staff. This wasn't exactly a clunker, I guess, but it sure was one of those games that you have to search to find excuses for. Make no mistake -- UK lost this game primarily because they were outcoached and outplayed by a team of similar talent, at home, where we should win against such teams.
On the bright side, think of all the tape that Brooks will have to show to illustrate what not to do. The problem is, he will be showing most of it to his coaching staff.
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Sounds pretty much spot on to me......
21 pts in a quarter is a joke for our D to give up……we got outclassed…..thought only Florida and Bama would do that to us this year…..
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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 31, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and it was not like the 3 tds came on quick strikes...
they just ran it down our throats….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Oct 31, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, pretty much
we should only have 2 loses right now, but it is what it is
by Bluehound on Oct 31, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was really hoping that losing the games we should win was behind us
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by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 31, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too....
that is why i thought this game the most important in the last few years — it is/was clearly a game we needed to show we were close to taking the next step….
good news for me is that i might get to see the cats again in memphis….to quote tru from above “oh, to be wrong…”
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by memphis wildcat on Oct 31, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coaches must of had a concussion
First of all great game by Miss. St. Dixon is a heck of a back. State’s coaches out coached Uk’s drastically. First time since Brooks has been here that I thought he didn’t know what he was doing. Yes, UK’s defense sucked most of the game but it was still a winable game, it was which team wanted it the most and who was the most experienced and had the best offense. It wasn’t UK. To me Newton isn’t but another Cobb and UK decided he wasn’t a good enough passer to be a QB last year. Both are just great athlete’s. Where was Fidler, did he break a arm or something. Freshmen QB just can’t score in a pressured situation in a must win game for both teams. We had won the last two games with both QB’s playing, leave it to Brooks and company to screw things up good job coaches. I feel bad for Locke, Cobb, and King who stepped up for us.
by UKFever on Oct 31, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on morgan vs hartline....
i have to disagree with you on this tru, i do not miss hartline. i was a BIG defender over the summer of hartline and thought that he was the guy. i would much rather just go on and take our lumps with morgan…
to me, he only made one major freshman mistake – that of course the forced pass deep that resulted in an interception…sure there were some minor ones, but i really thought his td run showed competitiveness and determination. he also threw some good passes. was he perfect? no, but i just think the athleticism he brings to the position is better…
i do agree that cobb should have passed it more from the wildcat.
i would like to see them line up in the old wishbone – morgan at qb, conner at fb and locke/cobb at halfbacks. of course they would need to line conner up at the slot and bring cobb in motion from the opposite side so as not to be labeled an old fashion wish bone – we actually ran it once – conner sealed the end, morgan pitched to locke and he was off…throw in a pass to mathews or cobb every now and then to keep the defense honest…you know things go in cycles, maybe its time (tongue planted in check, sort of…)
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by memphis wildcat on Oct 31, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even worse...
with oregon beating usc, we are going to be subjected to even more talk of why boise state should be given a bcs bowl bid…let them play in the sec (or pac 10, big 12, big 10 for that matter) and see how the discussion would go…there would not be one..
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by memphis wildcat on Oct 31, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the harm
in giving Boise State a bcs bowl bid? Everyone seems to be fine with college basketball being inclusive (which it should be) while college football is reserved only for the elite teams. Better Boise State than overrated Notre Dame.
The “they wouldn’t have the same record if they played in (insert conference here)” argument is irrelevant. Besides, Boise State has already been to a BCS bowl; they beat Oklahoma.
by don'tshootmei'macard on Nov 1, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just three words:
The "they wouldn’t have the same record if they played in (insert conference here)" argument is irrelevant.
No, it’s not.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you...
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Nov 1, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it is.
I never said Boise should play for the National Championship (which is still “mythical” as far as I’m concerned until a playoff system is instituted); I’m saying they have proven in the past that they can win BCS bowl games.
The argument is irrelevant because no one knows what their record would be against teams they aren’t scheduled to play. Any SEC teams lining up for a home and home with Boise State? Didn’t think so.
by don'tshootmei'macard on Nov 2, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boise State will likely get a BCS game.
And by the way, I don’t see Boise State lining up to take on any SEC teams, either. There could be a reason for that.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 3, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The SEC
is a very tough league. I dont’ see one dominant team with Florida and Alabama squeaking out wins in the past few weeks. Remember to that MSU almost squeaked one out versus Florida. I think that most teams can beat out any other team on any given Saturday with the exception of Vandy and Georgia.As far as Kentucky ever becoming premier in football, its going to be awhile. Its to hard in this league.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on Oct 31, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boise State
How Kentucky played tonight Boise State would kick us in the rear.
by UKFever on Oct 31, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UK never to be premier in football
As long as we continue to be afraid to throw the football and have RB play QB.
by UKFever on Oct 31, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liberty Bowl Again Maybe
UK is looking at a 6 to 5 win season more than likely. If lucky there will be 2 SEC wins again and 4 cupcake wins. UK has no chance against UT and if Georgia loses to UK they will be forced to make a head coach change. Send Mark Richt UK’s way, Brooks and Company has lost their minds.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Well, Georgia will not be firing Richt, no matter what.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tru
if Fulmer could be fired last year, Richt is on the hot seat too. He had it made last year and should have competed for the NC. I like the guy alot and think he is a great coach but he has run his course at Georgia like Fulmer did at TN. Kiffin is winning Georgia recruits too and that isn’t good.
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by tenken on Nov 1, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna happen.
You can believe me or not, but Georgia is not even thinking that way.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's...
Georgia, not UK. Richt is on the hot seat.
The Spork, I'm two things in one.
Are you NORML?
by the spork on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
He isn’t. If he doesn’t improve next year, he will be. But he isn’t on the hot seat at all.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tru
in reference to your above reply to mine…….did I sense some frustration by my comment? If so, I am sorry if you took it like I was aruging with you. I agree that Richt won’t get fired this season that isn’t what I meant. Fulmer was on the "hot seat " for a couple of years before he was fired. Richt will get one year to turn it around but I think it also depends on his recruiting. I don’t see them in the top ten in recruiting right now. That was the beginning of the end for Fulmer.
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by tenken on Nov 1, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry ...
… if my comment came off terse.
Richt will get more time than he needs. Georgia will be fine next year. Even if they disappoint next year, he will get another. He has earned it.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Richt
Doesn’t have the talent this year to be on the hot seat. Mullen just relived his Florida days against us. Run the ball right up the gut time after time. Our coaching staff doesn’t do a good job of adjusting, to put it lightly. Can’t blame this loss on offense
by daniel81 on Nov 1, 2009 9:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Why not
It takes offense to outscore another team. Granted the defense stunk it up but still the loss was only 7 points. Fidler should have played along with Newton and yes Cobb should be allowed to throw the ball more. Offensive decision making was poor but so was the defensive.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I need a change
That’s right Basketball season is here so much for football unless there is a miracle.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Comments like that..
Are reasons people believe we can’t support anything not played on hardwood.
by Conis22 on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Locke's postgame interview
I caught it in the car on the way home… something tells me that Papa Brooks will not be happy. Locke basically said, “I don’t understand our game plan. We should have been running the ball more.” It was very blunt and very uncharacteristic of what you expect to hear from a player on the team.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 1, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
chirop1
I don’t know how they could run the ball more that’s about all they did do or try to do. Miss. St. brought basically everyone up to stop the run and did a pretty good job of it.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Locke is just not 100%, and there is not much that could be done. Locke was just venting. He was helpless to really affect the outcome after about the second quarter.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too Much To Expect
I don’t understand why anyone was considering MSU an inferior team. We struggled with them last year, lost to them the year before. They stood up and beat us. Game plan better? Probably.
Rate the coaching staff. Offensive Coordinator from Florida, new system, new staff.etc. Did we get out coached? Well, with all the stability we have on our staff, a head coach of upteen or more years, a coach in waiting, who by the way use to be the offensive coordinator but how the head coach of the offense. No way we could have been out coached is there? Out recruited? Couldn’t have been with all the players we are getting from three straight bowls.
Some day, some one will finally say, maybe its time we get serious about football. No more ‘tickled to death’ statements after finishing last in our division. Until that day comes, we are what we are and we’d better like it.
A get fat game coming up, stats will go up and then back to trying to stay out of the bottom of the division. Good Ole Vandy is trying is hardest to help us avoid that.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They aren't inferior.
They are just about the same as UK. They had a better game plan today and did a good job. It happens. We did the same thing to Auburn down on the Plains, and they handled Ole Miss today.
It was a loss. The game plan didn’t work, our youth at quarterback showed, and I don’t think Phillips or Brown called a good game from the coordinator spots. Brooks gets the blame as head coach for being outcoached by Mullen, and he deserves it. But give the MSU guys credit — they were gutsy and tough, their O-Line pushed us around all night, and out defense was on the field far too long.
It happens. It is not the first time, nor will it be the last.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long time lurker, first time poster...
I’m gonna have to agree, especially on offense, that we didn’t call a good game… MS ST D puts 7-9 in the box most every play just begging us to throw the ball, and we didn’t! Half a dozen 7-8yd slants would have keep them much more honest, even if they went for incompletions…
In regards to our D, we never crowded the box, not one series that I can remember?? When a guy (and Congrats to Dixon; monster game!) is ripping ya a new one you’ve got to step up and put some more guys on the D line. Sure, that makes you more vulnerable to the deep ball, but the one deep ball MS ST did connect on was out of the nickel package… What have you got to loose??
Changing gears… Been reading here since last basketball season and I just want to thank everyone that contributes to the site! My first stop once the ’puter boots!
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by EagleTDL on Nov 1, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to have you with us.
You are most welcome, and a great first comment (and not just because you agreed with me.:-))
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I agree Tru. We weren’t ready to play. Everyone knew they were going to run the ball. We got to reading about how we beat Auburn and Louisiana Monroe, and this was just going to be another step in our climb to ‘respect’. Didn’t happen.
Of course, this week we’ll be ‘King of the Hill’ and put 50 or more on Eastern. Everyone will be happy as a pig in slop and then we go back to the SEC. Still four games to play but that lose last night was a true measure of what we have or have not accomplished this season.
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There...
was nothing wrong with this game plan tonight. Our players just didn’t get it done, plain and simple.
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Are you NORML?
by the spork on Nov 1, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
You don’t think playing the nickel package the whole game against a non-throwing team was a bad plan? Failing to throw the ball from the Wildcat every time they stacked the box?
Our execution was not good, either, I’ll grant you that, but frankly, I think that was more because we failed to adjust to MSU’s strategy. That’s my opinion.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not...
that a 4-3 wouldn’t have been effective, but the best defense against 3 wideouts is usually the nickel.
I would have liked to see Cobb throw the ball a couple times to open up the run, but they were keying on him so much, I’m not sure it would’ve made much difference.
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Are you NORML?
by the spork on Nov 1, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to pick your poison, though.
You can’t let a runner like that run amok, you have to force MSU to beat you through the air. You run the 4-3 and zone the pass. If they are able to hit receivers, you take your medicine, but the truth is, MSU has been anemic in the passing game all year.
We just picked the wrong poison.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not good
that Miss. St comes into our house and wants it more than us. That is on the players because I can guarantee the coaches wanted it bad. The offense was built for Hartline, not Newton. That is just a bad break and Brooks said they couldn’t change it during the season. It was good to see they did have a couple of running plays for Newton. We would of probably of won this game with Hartline because Miss. St. would of had to respect our passing game more. Injuries are piling up and really hurt us tonight, but all teams go thru injuries. Our injuries just happen to be our best defensive players in Lindley, Micah, and our starting QB. I was surprised they didn’t go with Cobb in the Wildcat instead of Newton on the one drive that Newton threw the interception, just because of experience. I am down but I will not give up on these guys or our coaches. Now lets go kick some butt the next two weeks and then we will concentrate on Georgia.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
injuries sure didnt help....
and it has me wondering, why do we have so many???
If it is conditioning, then get us a new conditioning coach….but if not, then what is it??
Are guys playing too many roles?
Why does Randall Cobb return kickoffs, punts…Why does Derrick Locke?
Maybe we are putting too much on these two guys shoulders?
It may be that these two present our only chance to win, but if that is the case, we are already screwed……1 serious injury and there will be no coming back…..didnt we learn anything from the Hartline situation
Morgan Newton has come a long way in a short time, but he is still a freshman and will still make a few mistakes. The defensive injuries showed big time last night, but we need to have adequate replacements by this late in the season…..guys it is time to suck it up and figure this out…..and start getting the damn bye week in the middle of the season where we need it….I dont believe it is any one thing, but I swear this hurts badly…..to see them let MSU run for what, 300 yds on us????
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
depth is the answer in my opinion..
although our depth is certainly better than in the past, we still are playing our better players too much. they simply do not get the rest intra game and inter game that they need.
depth would prevent more injuries but would also render more injuries moot. in the past, we would have been too banged up to have beaten auburn when we did – so i am not complaining – just saying we still have a ways to go
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by memphis wildcat on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dixon ran for a school record
that was 252 yards. That is what beat us. Our D could not stop him, for some who-knows reason. He had a really good game. I think the Bulldogs just wanted it more last night. Sometimes wanting it really bad is the main key.
And Grasslands1, I am with you. I am not giving up on our Wildcats. :-)
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by a2d2 on Nov 1, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This may be the first post ...
that I have ever read that said the other team would have to respect our passing game if we had Hartline in at QB. You do remember that he was not a game changer or game winner at QB, just a manager with no ability to throw downfield?
by wklawdog on Nov 1, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that is much more true than not.......the Hartline situation is not what cost us this ballgame....
not by a longshot
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, some one giving Hartline credit for not being that bad? Watch out!
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So all three of you
believe our passing game would not be better with Hartline? That convinces me even more about what I have thought in the past.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually yes.....I still believe that Newton is the answer to the question
but again he IS a freshman and is going to make mistakes….but I can live with his mistakes a lot better than I can stomach that joke of a 3rd quarter performance last night by the defense…..
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and I honestly believe that there are a lot more of us out there that think
exactly that way……..in spite of what you “have thought in the past”….if you want to take a shot at somebody then take it….dont half-ass it…….that was more of an “ole” move than most of our defense made last night when trying to tackle Dixon…..frankly I am disappointed
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had to get my balance from
being shocked. So you think that they would of stacked that line like that if Hartline had been playing?
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong,
the defense lost the game, but there is no way that Newton gives us a better chance to win than a healthy Hartline right now.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
let's see if that decision is Brooks' in three weeks
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
I TOTALLY believe Hartline is the best passer on the team. How did you get I was ‘cutting’ Hartline?
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is.
He doesn’t have Newton’s arm strength, but he knows the offense better and has much more poise in the pocket than Newton does. It makes him a better QB right now.
When Newton develops more poise and presence in the pocket, he has more physical skills than Hartline and will probably be better. But he isn’t there yet. That’s just reality.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not play Fidler
If the offense was built for Hartline why aren’t UK playing Fidler, he is alot more like Hartline than Newton is. Fidler was even considered the number 2 at the begining of the year. I think it was because too many fans got in a hurry for the highly recruited Newton.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
348 total yards rushing by Miss St.
7.7 yards per rush. Just about every other stat was close. ’nuff said.
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by cincyblue on Nov 1, 2009 5:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
That’s a big one, all right.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a nice, short write up from Owensboro's paper
It discusses UK’s knuckleheaded calls in the Red Zone, and their use of the Wildcat — or lack, thereof. This could explain Phillip’s calls: UK doesn’t pass out of the Wildcat (probably can’t at this point) so the defense stacks the line every time they see that formation.
http://www.messenger-inquirer.com/articles/2009/11/01/sports/columnists/hagerman/15751940.txt
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by cincyblue on Nov 1, 2009 5:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they are now a subscription site....costs a buck to read that one.....geez ....
more newspapers getting greedy
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about that
I tested the link a few times in the hope this would not happen. It is sad.
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by cincyblue on Nov 1, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cobb can pass better than most "wildcat" quarterbacks...
they just do not call it. the one i do remember was a pass interference call
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by memphis wildcat on Nov 1, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's very true.....the expert logic has been telling us though that he has no one to
throw to…..more “expert” opinions…..
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff ABC
you think too much! lol.
if he was really good he could throw the pass, aim it to bounce off the helmet of a MSU player and hurry down field and get the bounce and run it in.
We could call it Cobb to Cobb. May start a new trend in football.
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then
They could spend as much time on that as they do in getting the players to intentionally drop passes. i.e. earlier in the season.
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, I am not happy with our receivers much more than that myself
but, just like Newton, if they are what you have, you have to get them up to speed…..NOW…….Matthews and the others have showed flashes of what they were brought here for….have to let them develop….they will not do that with Randall Cobb catching everything that gets thrown…..he’s great and I would love to have 10 more….but there are 5 other receivers on this team…..time to throw them the ball….they are using Cobb so much that the D can now key on he and Locke….
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weren’t we ‘keying’ on MSU’s tailback? Didn’t slow him down much?
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was my "other" major concern
How did we get beat by a team that was that “one dimensional”???
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you key on the run ...
… in the nickel package? I’m saying, you can’t. Did we bring a safety up? No! Why not just play the 4-3, the defense that has allowed us to do pretty well against the run (except vs. Florida) and play a 2-deep zone on coverage? MSU is much less likely to beat us through the air than on the ground.
Crazy stuff.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tru, the safety was up near the line for a very large portion of the second half.
The announcers for ESPN360 were talking about how UK had 9 men in the box at times and MSU still gutted us. We have a banged up D that was minus its 3 best players from the beginning of the year.
by wklawdog on Nov 1, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah ...
… not that much. They moved them up for a couple of plays, but for the most part, they didn’t, especially after they got burned deep.
Anyway, against a runner like Dixon, the nickel package with a safety in the box isn’t the answer. You need three linebackers and four down linemen. That’s my opinion, anyway. Safeties are too light and aren’t designed to sub for a linebacker the whole game, even if they had the safety in the box every play.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Football Cats Need To W 3 Of Last 4 Games
That would be 7-5 record and (almost) certainly another bowl bid.
But 6-6 may be a more likely outcome. Still should earn bowl bid.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Pizza bowl, probably. I guess at this point, beggars can’t be choosers. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll win wherever we play
Bad in the SEC is better than good everywhere else.
No matter where you're at, there you are
by cincyblue on Nov 1, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cats Bring $ And Fans To Bowl Games
So 6-6 still may get the Football Cats into a bowl game.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 1, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ten SEC teams can go to bowls if
that many qualify. Any SEC team going 6-6 is in.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still Waiting
I don’t know why but as much as I enjoyed the fireworks provided by the UK offense up to the year before last, I have always wanted to see the Wildcats assemble an “oh no you don’t” defense. Especially against the run. And I’m still waiting.
by Ornery1951 on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Phillips should have sold out against the run ...
… and forced MSU to beat us downfield. But what do I know? I’m a 52 year old armchair quarterback who hasn’t played football in 35 years. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one thing that hasnt changed Tru in 35 years, is that you have to make adjustments
during the game, unless your’e up by 3 or 4 td’s…..
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it's a comfortable armchair
As I get older I find a comfortable armchair to be a good thing :)
No matter where you're at, there you are
by cincyblue on Nov 1, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tur I thought we did that and they beat us bad on a long touchdown toss. I maybe wrong.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ...
… but you can’t let one play define you like that. Were they going to beat us deep over and over and over again? I doubt it, but I don’t know. But they had showed for sure that they were going to kill us with the run.
You have to pick your poison. We just picked the wrong one, statistically. You have to take away a team’s strength, if you can, and force them to beat you another way. Would MSU still have won? Maybe, but they wouldn’t have ground our defense into a fine powder like they did.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Our defense was set back three years last night.
It was like what Bobby Knight said one time about laying there and taking it. That is what we did and it killed us.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan Newton
definitely showed signs of a growing confidence, and I think did a really good job on the last drive. He does show the ability to be the “kind” of QB that we need to (finally!) get to a .500 record in SEC play one of these years, and so we should certainly be sticking with him and allowing that process to continue. This season is not over, of course. But it appears that what we are left salvaging is a 6 win season, and a chance at another “in through the back door” minor bowl appearance. Newton needs to be our QB to help prepare him for next season.
If all of the game experience of this season does not help Newton develop to the point of being able to beat out Hartline for next year’s job, then so be it. Our league record will just continue to hold steady.
In other words— no, I do not miss the “now” of Hartline vs. the “developing tomorrow” of Newton.
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he did.
Morgan played a pretty good game. I still question Brooks not using the three-headed QB that had worked so far, but that’s a call I can respect. Not getting Randall Cobb the football in the forth quarter? That’s a call I could spend hours scoffing at.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow's Newton
Most everyone thinks Newton will be great, wish I was on board. To me he looks like another Wildcat formation QB. Maybe the other freshman from Texas will be great .and we could use Newton like Cobb. Then again Newton could be the next Tebow.
by UKFever on Nov 1, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mossakowski ...
… is a more heralded thrower than Newton. But his arm strength is still recovering from the injury he suffered in high school.
Newton has all the tools. He is just young. It will be interesting to see who is better when Moss gets fully healthy.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Newton
A bunch of kids have strong arms and running skills but that doesn’t make them good QB’s. Newton is a Project. Time will tell if he ever develops any accurency. On the plus side he han’t made as many mistakes as I thought he would.
I hope it’s Moss I like Pure Passers.
by UKFever on Nov 2, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Cobb?
Newton is going to be OK. He shows a lot of promise. Too bad he was put into that situation last night.
I agree with others when they ask why wasn’t Cobb put at quarterback. The best we have and he isn’t part of the solution. Maybe he was hurting. We aren’t the coaches who know what’s going on so there must have been some reason.
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cobb is not ever going to
be a full time QB again in his life. Get over it. I hate to break what sounds like bad news to some of you, but when Hartline is fully healthy, be it this year or next year, I will bet anybody that he will be our starter. There is no doubt that he gives us our best chance to win. Brooks and Phillips know a heck of a lot more than we do, and they have said it repeatedly.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brooks and Joker
do know more than we do. I will agree with that.
But those two guys are sitting here years on the job pining away for… Mike…. Hartline…. to return and QB their football team.
That is a big problem, no?
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a big problem, yes.......
MY problem is that since they DO know more than the rest of us, shouldnt they show it in situations like we just had?We do pay our coaches, right?….this is not a charity job??….
Big games must be one…..Brooks said himself this was probably the biggest game for this program in 30 years…..and they let Miss St hand them their hats
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you, ABC
I just give Brooks and Joker the benefit of the doubt that they know a lot, because they are paid professionals who do this every day of their lives.
But given the complete fiasco at the end of the first half against UofL this year, and the end of the first half against UofL last year (when the play calling was designed to neither advance the ball towards a first down, nor run out the time on the clock, thereby giving the ball away), and letting Spurrier’s guys off the hook by putting Cobb in a weak pass pattern on that crucial 2-point conversion instead of behind center… and having a Mike Hartline anywhere… near…. the starting QB job…
.. well, I sometimes wonder if we will still be on ASOB years from now, and Paris will still be criticizing everyone for not talking enough about Coach Joker’s latest team that is 1-4 in conference play….again….
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sonic, I'm on record for
-stating the promotion of our head coach of the offense, former offensive coordinator, and what ever title they give him next year, as being the perfect example of what Barnhart is doing to the football program.
Of course, Brooks was ga-ga for going to a bowl or two and we beat sub par teams in Florida State, left 38 players at home, and Clemson, on a five game losing streak, and to show his masterly knowledge picked Joker to succeed him. Mitch, jumps on board as quick as he can and the future of the program is set.
The class of Woodson and others, with the exception of Tamme were recruited by Guy Morriss’ bunch. The best team Brooks has had.
Since them check the offensive renking of the 120 teams. Draw you own conclusion.
I wonder why Urban Myer hasn’t picked his successor. Or even PaJo at Penn State. It drew a lot of press for us. I hope Phillips sets the recond for consectitive SEC Championships. We got him. No heat on the current staff to do better. Seven seasons in Brooks’ tenure and we are happy. I coiuld go on but why? No use. I’ve almost 65. The best teams I’ve seen at Kentucky came from a program that we woiuld have to see how was on the jail list before we could make out the starting lineup. Fran did know how to get football players, hust not model citizens.
Ten, twenty yeats down the road, we may make it to second in the division. Not really a good chance at that but I would care then.
For now, we ain’t really trying to compete in the conference. Give us our three buy wins and pray three or four other teams screw up. That’s about all we can ask for.
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not if he gives
us the best chance to win. We do have two good young QB’s in Newton and Mossakowski. But they are not as good as Hartline right now. Miss. St. defense didn’t respect Newton and they really didn’t respect Cobb in the Wildcat. The respect for Cobb could of been handled if the staff had him throw it more in previous games. Newton’s time will come, but he is a smart young man, even he knows Hartline’s experience makes him better right now. It doesn’t mater, Hartline can’t play and Newton is the man right now. We have our QB’s for the future. Wait till they implement some plays to show Newtons real ability. Newton’s strong suit is his legs.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cobb ...
… should have spent more time there, and thrown the football out of that formation. This staff seems to try a play or two, then give up like it proves something.
Grrrr … Don’t get me started. Brooks & Co. are getting no passes from me on this one.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hehehe....welcome aboard....lol.....
actually I think 3 decisions cost us….but they were made long ago.
1) Cobb can do it all, so we will let him.
2) Player development can wait, we need wins now, so we will gamble.
3) We dont have to adjust our in-game strategies…..we dont have the personnel for it.
we bet on a horse and prayed he didnt come up lame…..he hasnt come up lame yet, but he’s hurting….and now he is behind by 12 lengths
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now, wait a minute ...
… I said I wasn’t giving him a pass this game. That doesn’t mean I have joined the ranks of Brooks naysayers. I haven’t. So I’m not “aboard” by any means. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, I am not necessarily saying it is ALL Brooks fault.....
just his responsibility…..
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I was just turning to Newton because the coaches do not want Cobb to be their QB. I have even heard Brooks refer to him as a “pseudo quarterback”.
I never bought the whole “we need him more at receiver” argument from the beginning. What good does that do if it leaves the QB position weaker? That argument makes no sense to me.
I would have been happy to have Cobb as our QB (not just wildcat) from as soon as he arrived here— but maybe he is happy this way since he is able to showcase so many skills for the next level.
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am getting mad
just thinking about it. I am going out and knocking the crap out of the little white round dimpled ball. That is not good either, because I know a high score will come without the ssmmmoooootttttttthhhhhhh swing.
by Grasslands1 on Nov 1, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I need to go to the gym ...
… and work out some frustration. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The sad part is.....even if we make a bowl
we just showed an evenly matched team how to beat us……you give a decent coach 2-4 weeks to get ready for us….and give them the game films from this year….and they will pick us apart…..and then they will sit on Cobb and Locke until we suffocate
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
What it mostly showed is what UK cannot do in certain situations, not a roadmap to beat UK. We did the wrong things at the wrong time, for reasons that, in retrospect, it’s hard to fathom.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope youre right and I am wrong Tru......honest
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to stir the pot. . .but
I feel that KY has as much talent as at least half the teams in the SEC (I may be wrong). Why don’t we come out with game plans, particularly on offense that causes major adjustments for the opposing teams? Last night was absolutely the dumbest case of non-coaching, both on offense & defense that I believe that I have ever seen in my life. Even the announcers kept saying over & over what adjustments that the defense needed to make to try & stop Dixon from shredding us but they were never made. WHY?
I wish the coach in waiting deal had never been made. My choice for a fresh start would be the guy from Cincinnati. Are you telling me that with the talent he is able to recruit that he couldn’t compete in the SEC? His team moves the ball & scores even with a second string QB running the team. He has them in the top ten in the polls. It’s all about coaching folks & despite our “relative” success the last few years coaching is the lacking ingredient to bring us to the next step in the process.
by Bluegilla on Nov 1, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, more coaching angst.
Well, I can’t say I am surprised. We hear this after every single loss. I suppose it’s a good thing. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Saying
that Coach Brooks hasn’t been good for KY football, he has. I just wish for more innovation & style that makes the opposing coaches have to make adjustments more than we do. I just believe that’s what we need to get to the next level. In other words, CoachCal ball instead of BillyClyde ball.
by Bluegilla on Nov 1, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… we have yet to see Phillips coach a single snap as HC. Perhaps he will have different ideas when it’s his team. I think we should wait and see.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it makes you feel any better, Tru
I will be happy to post that the ‘coach in waiting’ deal was a bad idea after the EKU game, even if we win.
And after the Vandy game— win or lose.
And after…. :-)
by Sonic on Nov 1, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Irrelevant.
With due respect, whether it is a good or bad idea is not relevant. UK isn’t going to break their word, and most football people think it was a good idea.
I have been hearing this all year long from various quarters, and we’ll just have to agree to disagree. But my main point is, arguing about whether the coach in waiting thing was good or bad is not really productive. That ship has sailed, and it isn’t coming back if UK looses every other game this season. I totally understand the second-guessing (in the off chance you thought it was a good idea before, which I don’t really know), but at the end of the day, we have to “dance with who brung us.”
Joker’s case is nothing like Gillispie’s -Joker gets it, but we have no idea what he would produce if it was his team. It isn’t. For all we know, he might want to go to a spread, or try something radical like Malzahn. But we do know that Brooks has no interest in all that fancy stuff, so it really doesn’t matter what Joker might want. Yet.
I suspect the resistance to the Wildcat is coming more from Brooks than Phillips, but we will never know that until Brooks decides to ride into the sunset. Phillips is going to preach the party line 100% of the time and take the heat. That’s how he’s made, and it is praiseworthy.
In any case, the wrong time to criticize a guy is when he hasn’t coached a single snap in that position. What he does as OC is not necessarily what he will do as HC, and what he has done at OC has been pretty darn good.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who then?
Tru. I see your point. But if not the coaches, where do you lay the fact we are a second tier team in the conference?
Seven years. Al ot of recruits. Brooks and staff aren’t playing with some one else’s players.
David Cutcliffe at DUKE, has five wins. Of course that is in the ACC. But he took over with players from someone else. Duke, is not a household word in any body’s league. He’s in his second year. One recruiting class under his belt. Not bad for some one who got fired at Ole Miss after going to 4 bowl games in five years.
Wonder if he would have entrertained the idea of getting back in the SEC? if he would go to Duke, wouldn’t he consider Kentucky? No worry, we won’t ever know. We like what we’ve got and its enough to continue.
The sad thing is we won’t have the chanve to know who might have been interested in the Lexington job. That’s what smells foul about the future.
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've discussed before at length...
… all this stuff.
It really doesn’t matter, in the end. See the comment I made just above.
Hand-wringing about the coaching is futile. We should point out errors, but we are not going to fire the coaching staff and replace them, so why say we should? It’s like saying we should play college football on Sunday instead of Saturday. Maybe we should, but that ship has sailed, and it isn’t coming back.
There are a ton of things we will never know, and what I don’t get is why people try to live “what-ifs” all the time, instead of looking at what happened, making rational criticism, and moving on. Spurrier will never be UK’s coach — I’ll bet $100 bucks with anybody on that. UK will not be replacing the coaching staff in favor of Cutcliff or anyone else. I’ll bet $100 bucks on that, also.
Why can’t we live in the present instead of the “what if?” I’m just wondering.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the current situation we have our future coach, so why
don’t we see something to be happy about?
A. Joker being vetoed on his play calling by Brooks? If so why the title of Head Coach if the Offense?
B. Brooks doesn’t listen to Randy Sanders? Why would he?
C. Joker is not calling the plays he knows would have a chance of being successful? That would be stupid!
D. Both Joker and Brooks are saving their best for the last three games? Huh?
E. Both know the is no time table for success. No such thing as “hot seat’. and they are going to be there come hell or high water.
Remember the clamor when a new coach is named for our school? Name one that didn’t start out with hope, energy, promises, and give us some glimmer of hope. Can you say that going to happen with the next coach”
Tru. you are so right things are not going to change. But for me settling for what we have is a definite example of how the current athletic director is out of touch with what we need to do to have a winning football program.
I; personally, don’t want to accept what we have as the best we can.could get.
They had no problem voiding the contract of our former basketball coach. Why not give Joker 2.93 million and try to actually build a program?
If the coal people have seven million for a dorm I bet they might be just dissatified with our football program to find the money;
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
8-4, 7-5 or 6-6
This is always going to be as good as it gets for UK in Football. It’s a basketball school who recently have not been competitive on the hardwood. Brooks is a good coach with a good staff that has built the program over the last seven years on non conference “cup cakes”. SEC East record something like 4-28
by Big Blue Backer on Nov 1, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That opinion has been overstated ad nauseum.....lol
but what’s one more pointing it out???
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by ALLBLUCAT on Nov 1, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C/mon ABC. There is always a chance we might pick up so wins post season. You know Tennessee gives a car to some guy and has to foreit their season. They decide to make to add Western Kentucky to the Eastern Division.. A lot of thigss could happen.
You got to look on the bright side. Pickin on you again.
Hell, we need some levity around here. If it weren’t for basketball season and the pending national championship what is there to live for?
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by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not always.
But mostly.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 1, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
New post up.
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