Looks Like Football Season Is Over In The Bluegrass
by ParisGuy on Oct 30, 2009 10:24 AM EDT
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Basketball and Bashing Columnists Have Taken Over!
The undefeated Wildcat basketball team, again, has erased football from the scene. Coming in a distant second is critiquing Jerry Tipton.
We wonder why recruiting is so difficult for the Football Cats. Just check out the posts on this site alone. Still in the hunt to get to the 'Sacred Sixth Win' but we worry about what a writer wrote that could or could not be factual.
Next we'll be worrying about what size shoes Cal wears or some other 'breaking' news.
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I don't think
talking about what Tipton did makes me any less of a Wildcat fan. KY basketball has started. KY football continues. We just have both right now. I am ready for Saturday. Football season is not over !!! GO CATS !!!
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
by a2d2 on Oct 30, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
For what it’s worth, I have a ton of football stuff coming up later today and tomorrow.
It is too bad that I couldn’t get more up before now. I accept the blame for that.
But as an excuse, I offer the fact that this blogging gig does not exactly play the bills around here. In fact, if I had to live off A Sea of Blue, I couldn’t afford my light bill, let alone an Internet connection. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 30, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Ah you mean that internet blogging is not the way to massive riches and a big fat paycheck? Rats. I havae that google ad sense on my site and was going to retire off it lol
http://wildcatblueblog.com
by PJordan32746 on Nov 2, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Football not over....football good.....
by the way….odds are 6-5 and pick em for us and Miss St…….anyone want to venture a guess on the outcome???
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 30, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Final score:
27-16 Kentucky.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
by blbskue on Oct 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overdone But Helpful
While the sarcasm is a touch overdone, ParisGuy, your comment rather accurately defines the relationship of UK BB to UK FB in the mind of a vast majority of fans. And it is quite helpful in answering the seemingly eternal questions on FB recruiting, coaching, resources, etc.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Oct 30, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not enough space to post basketball tidbits here
As much as I jump in Brooks/Phillips/Barnhart’s stuff, I can see developing a program at Kentucky is probably the toughest in the SEC.
Most can’t wait for some minor news news in basketball before its cretiqued, sliced, diagramed, etc. to make sure is reaches the zenith of readability. It doesn’t have to be any thing earth shattering to leap over a pending football game a day away. Just but ‘basketball’ in the content of the article and its a headliner.
If the Cats should fall tomorrow in football, its done. There won’t be anything that could bring it to the forefront. Hell, there is anything that could be more exciting to happen on a football field that could equal a scrimmage of basketball?
I guess I need to fall in lock step with the roundballers and bid fairwell to football.
I just can’t get fired up about a sport that isn’t in season.
Post something now and then about football and maybe us that care about the fortunes of that program will make it through till the season’s over.
by ParisGuy on Oct 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UK is a basketball school (Period)
UK has not remotely even tried to build a football program, that is why it is so hard to recruit. It is hard for schools to build programs in multiple sports, much less have big time success in both. I am not a fan of college football anyway (having grown up in Ky where roundball is king) so I have never really minded what UK has done in football. The Tim Couch years were fun and there are occasional high points (beating LSU when they were ranked #1, etc.) but if UK really wants anyone to take them seriously as wanting to even try both, they need to do more than name Joker as the coach in waiting. They need to go after and hire a big name in football coaching and show they are committed to building a program that can compete in the SEC I would follow that, but naming the offensive coordinator on a marginally sucessful team and one time strength coach if I remember correctly to be the future of the program smacks of status quo when it comes to football mediocrity to me. After all, we went out and paid big bucks for Coach Cal and we expect big things. We do we expect to get from our coach in waiting. Plus we never seem to do well in basketball the year we have upside in football, so I am satisfied with that for now. I want number 2000 and number 8, in that order.
by WCATFAN666 on Oct 30, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You Are Clueless
Tell the 68,000 people that are at the football game tomorrow that football in Kentucky is dead. Just because you don’t care? Who are you GOD? Where do you get off telling the ones who do care that football doesn’t matter? Just because it doesn’t matter to you, what arrogance.
by Grasslands1 on Oct 30, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed what I was getting at
I admit I don’t really live or die by what is going to happen tomorrow with the game at Mississippi State. It will be nice if they win but if they don’t, I won’t be throwing bricks at my television set or anything. What I was trying to point out is that is my contention that the UK Athletics department doesn’t care and is showing that with the decisions that they are making. Alabama is a football school. What did they do when they got in trouble in football. The same thing we did in basketball. Throw money at the hottest coach out there and there expectations (and results) are sky high because of it. Florida is a football school. I don’t care what Billy D. thinks says or does, nothing will change Florida from a football school to a basketball school. They were thrilled that he won those championships, but he could never come close ever again and he will never be on the hot seat. Now maybe I just answered my own query. UK is a basketball school. The most storied, successful, winningest, crazy insane fan base basketball school in the country. Nothing that Rich Brooks or Joker will do, say or try will ever change it from a basketball school to a football school, so maybe what they are doing is just fine and enough. But don’t try and say that because UK sells out its football stadium, it is a football school. What Rich Brooks has done for however long he has been here is about the level of what Gillespie did last year. Didn’t compete in their Division in the SEC and got a bowl game (equivalent of going to the NIT). One guys performance got him praised as the savior of the program, the other is looking for work. See the difference. That is all I am trying to say. I am not belittling what the football atheletes or their coaches do, but you can’t call it competing at the top levels like we do in basketball. Again, if anything I have said is not factually correct, please point it out to me. I don’t know who was Alabama’s last O-coordinator, but when they were not competing up to standards, he was not looked to as the defacto replacement for whatever coach they booted out. Again, see the differences. Also, I never said UK football was dead, my contention is that is in a coma on life support and no one wants to make the decision to shock the patient awake (go out and spend some major bucks on a top name coach) and pulling the plug.
by WCATFAN666 on Oct 30, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need to go and check
to see how long it took Alabama to throw money at a big name coach. It took Alabama to get back to where they were nationally as long as it did for UK to go where they had never gone before. Just bringing in a big name coach doesn’t guarantee anything (check Spurrier record at SC). Joker is a very good pick for UK to be the next head coach. It takes selling to bring in recruits, and the man can sell UK with a passion. If you have never built a successful business I can see your lack of faith. What we are witnessing is a long term growth business that was never built right in the first place. Brooks probably doesn’t get us to a big bowl, but Joker might do it once in awhile. We will never be an Alabama or a Florida in football, but that doesn’t mean we can’t rain on their parade once in a while. Just like Florida’s basketball team did, but probably won’t do again. Trust me, you will hear rumblings in Florida this year when they go to another NIT. If Florida does not get Brandon Knight (who was a lock at one time), BD will be gone in two years.
by Grasslands1 on Oct 30, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were complacent for a long time too...
We went through about 6 years of subpar with Smith and 2 with Gillespie. That still didn’t change us from a basketball school to a football school. Alabama didn’t have a Joe B. Hall to bring them out of their Bear Bryant era. They might be more like UCLA than us in that respect, but the analogy still holds and bottom line, nothing changed until they got Saban. You can only recruit so much on passion, you have to have the tradition and the ability to show the young athletes that it is advantageous to their future to come there. Bottom line, if it came down to and a student athelete gets offers from Alabama and UK in football, where are they going to choose. Which school offers them the chance in the next 4 years to play in a BCS game (possibly the National Championship). The reverse is there for UK in Basketball, although the previous 2 regimes did not exploit that and almost let it die. Calipari is doing a great job of putting UK Bball back in the forefront. His goal is that when he(or one of his assistants) walks into a room to speak with an prospect, the other guys storm off in disgust know that if we offer they are toast. I think we are basically saying the same thing and agreeing, just differing on degree. I think Rich Brooks has done a nice job with putting us in a small bowl game each year (hopefully he can do it again). If we can do that consistently, there is nothing to be upset about. But to go back to the original point, less than BCS contention year in and year out means that your sport is going to take a back seat to the perennial big dogs (or cats as is more appropriate here). So no need to gripe that basketball season is here, it is time to get it on and wait for number 8.
by WCATFAN666 on Oct 30, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alabama has won a
National Championship since Bear Bryant left. They had an excellent coach in Gene Stallings after Bryant, but he retired also. If the class of Rondo, Morris, Bradley, and Crawford had llived up to there expectations, Tubby would of probably still been here. That is the way it goes. Our class was selfish and Florida’s was more team oriented. I could go on but my wife is calling me to go.
by Grasslands1 on Oct 30, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we really need the other sports?
Other than basketball, it seems other schools in the SEC are competitive in a variety of sports. Track, baseball, golf, swimming, etc.
Some of them seem to step up now and then and put a pretty good basketball aquad on the floor.
Of course we have to remember Ole Mitch’s goal, 15 championships in seven years. They all are going to come in basketball I guess. We have won the Great American Rifle Conference since that date, December 8th, 2008.
Wonder how hard it is to be the athletic director at a school that is as one dimentional as Kentucky? If can’t lose money. No way! Do we have a coach on the hot seat in any of the programs? Nope, and we won’t. Mitch is on his second hire and no way he’s going to pressure a basketball coach if things go south. Football, most secure job in the SEC. No expectations, no disapointments. Same in the other sports.
We hear the talk about how he’s improving the other programs, and all. BUT do the majority of the fans care? If worse comes to worse and somehow Cal gets us the death penalty in basketball they might as well close down the rest of the programs.
Maybe that’s the way it should be.
by ParisGuy on Oct 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes your stupid talk again.
by Grasslands1 on Oct 30, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Just think of all those championships yet to come.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Oct 31, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ParisGuy, your constant negativity is extremely tiresome.
If you are not harping on how bad Brooks and Joker are thenyou are harping on how bad the athletic director is. Now, the entire state and everyone on this site is below you since we talk about and care more for basketball than football. Get over yourself or, in the alternative, go to a different site and quit the constant griping. Some of us actually like to cheer for both sports and think the coaching staffs for the two primary sports are pretty decent and your constant negativity sucks.
by wklawdog on Oct 31, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
law guy
I point out the vast majority of the articles are about basketball during football season and right before a very important game we are not talking about bowl possiblities, beating someone we need to beat, etc.
The athletic director makess over a half of a million dollars to direct a program that over all is sub par in the conference.
Maybe you should come down from your ivory tower and check out what we don’t accomplish in comparision to the other schools. You don’t have to read my comments, stay ‘rah, rah’ and read the puff pieces of others.
Tell us, ole sage, how are the other programs and of course, include football, fairing agains the conference teams. I enjoy reading about ‘ifs; ’buts’ ‘maybes; and ’next years’. I want people to talk aboiut football in football season. That too tough for you?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
you can start your own blog and devote it to football 24/7
http://wildcatblueblog.com
by PJordan32746 on Nov 2, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One minor contention
I don’t believe Mitch will get away with letting basketball fall down again on his watch. If something negative happens with Cal, Mitch will be the first to hit the door. We will never let basketball go again like we did. Ever vigilant is what we have to be on that score. Also, if you want to talk about boosting other sports. Cal is doing Mitch’s job for him. I thought it was really cool to reward the attendees of other sports with wristbands to get into the student only practice. That is the kind of idea and thinking that should be coming from the AD if they are serious about bolstering other areas of the athletics department. UL used to do something a little more crass back in the 80’s In order to be eligible to buy season tickets in basketball you had to buy season tickets to football. That way they were guaranteed to sell 18,000 tickets or so to each football home game. Most of that 18000 stayed in the parking lot and never bothered to go into the football stadium (which doubled as the minor league baseball field attached to Freedom Hall at the fairgrounds)
by WCATFAN666 on Oct 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so....
If you want the blog to discuss more football, why don’t you, I don’t know, write a fanpost talking about the football team—rather than a sarcastic one making fun of your fellow fans who want to talk basketball? That’s the beauty of fanshots—you can bring up any old topic you want and have it get front page treatment.
There are simply far far far far more people who want to talk hoops than gridiron in Kentucky, period, the end, ESPECIALLY when we’re right on the cusp of the most anticipated basketball season I can ever remember . Apparently this fact is very upsetting to you, but snide comments directed at the rest of us sure aren’t going to change anything.
by blue kentucky girl on Oct 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Waiting
Still waiting for you to tell us how a DUI plea could be effected by a civil suit on a totally different matter.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 2, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Girl, isn’t there enough posts you can comment on about basketball? If you don’t want to talk about football then maybe this is the wrong page for you.
Close your eyes and click, you’ll find a basketball article.
Have a nice day
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
by ParisGuy on Nov 1, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This post ISN'T about the football team, though!
That was my point—rather than just providing that football discussion you find so lacking here, you posted a a sarcastic, mocking post directed at your fellow fans, by rehashing, again, all the “inconsequential” basketball stuff others are interested in.
I didn’t mean to be rude, though, and maybe I was bordering on it, so I WILL go have a nice day now, and you do the same : )
by blue kentucky girl on Nov 1, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brooks gets 2 more commits......
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 30, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some fool will complain
they are not 5 star players.
by Grasslands1 on Oct 30, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the one is a 3*....nothing about the other one.....hope as a tight end he has good hands
the linebacker looks like he has real promise though
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Oct 30, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paris
I’m with you. I love the sport of football (yes, more than basketball) and thoroughly enjoy the college game above the NFL. We’re in a critical juncture of the season where we can almost make warm weather plans for a bowl game and basketball takes over due to a scrimmage and a columnist no one reads with enthusiasm. It’s the nature of the beast at Kentucky.
I’ll be cheering just as wild as the next person when Patterson and company start their blitzkrieg but for now I can’t generate enthusiasm for Calipari’s pasta de jour when someone might help me find out what size nails Papa Brooks had for breakfast. The barrage of basketball “news” does and will always eclipse the football news although this year the changes in the program are unprecedented. Next year, once we’ve gotten over our love fest and return to merely rabid fans I’m sure the news will be a little more balanced — 70% basketball, 30% football.
For now, count me as one of the die hard pure football fans. Once basketball season starts – count me as one of those, too. Potential football recruits realize I’m not the only one with that mindset; there are tens of thousands wildly rooting for whatever blue uniform is competing. If they come to Kentucky they’ll have fans as excited to see them as any basketball player.
by hoboat33 on Oct 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Take A Look At Polls
The only school that is represented in the Top 10 in both AP and Coaches FB and BB polls for week 9 is Texas and there are scarcely any duplicates in the entire Top 25. This is indicative of the difficulty in a university striving to excel in both major sports. And the fact that Texas is the one is further representation of the impact of population size, ethnic demography, climate and most important the emphasis placed on athletic competition at the public school level. UK made the decision to excel in BB more than a half century ago and there would be considerably less fan angst if we accepted the fact.
"Learn(ing) without thinking begets ignorance. Think(ing) without learning is dangerous."
-Confucius
by Wild Weasel on Oct 30, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
its fair for us to say that at this time……..reason being that Kentucky basketball is at fever pitch more so then I have seen in years. Maybe ever in my 35 years of living. Lets enjoy it while we still can.
Kentucky bretheren united once again! Thanks Cal!
by tenken on Oct 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YOU ARE ALL BAD!!!!!!
SPORTS WILL ROT YOUR BRAIN!!!! IT WILL MAKE YOUR PRIVATES STINK!!!! YOU WILL BECOME DUMBER AND DUMBERER!!!! GO READ A BOOK!!!! OR LEARN TO READ THEN GO READ A BOOK!!!! FLY A KITE!!!!! SNIFF GLUE!!!!! SPORTS ARE BAD!!!!!
GO BIG BLUE!!!!
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.
by bluecrip on Oct 31, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quitting on football Cats.
My comment is in response to segment in the following post:
“The undefeated Wildcat basketball team, again, has erased football from the scene. Coming in a distant second is critiquing Jerry Tipton.”
The only FANS to whom the football season is over is them what didn’t care in the first place, have no true interest in football, or are just running their mouth. I don’t quit on the football Cats till the bowl game is over, and who the heck is jerry tipton, if fans would quit talking about unpertinent people and incidents and just stay between the lines, we true fans would be better off.
by whiteowl on Oct 31, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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